And Disney these days probably sees alot of marketing success with creating attractions themed off of films; you like the film so you ride the ride. But it is interesting to know another reason why the early parks were mostly original ideas 🥰
Yep. You can even see this with rides based on more obscure movies like 20k leagues. Rides need the attraction of iconic movies to be popular enough to run.
it started with the massive success that universal had with harry potter, disney piggy backed, had massive success, and when you have success you seem to stick with it
It’s also do in a large part to guest preferences. When Disney’s California adventure at the Disneyland resort opened it had almost no Disney IP in it and because of that it wasn’t as successful as they anticipated. People were complaining that it didn’t feel very “Disney”. So to boost its popularity they started putting Disney IP into California adventure to try and make it more popular and it worked. Things like changing California screaming into “increda coaster” and changing there tower to guardians of the galaxy. The more IP they put into the park the less people complained about the lack of “Disney” in the park. It was in fact so successful that they started bringing this idea to other aspects of other parks like Disney’s Hollywood Studios over in Florida. It’s not that they don’t have the creativity to think of new rides they just know that putting in IP is going to get more bang for the buck compared to thinking up something new.
I mean, this is just what kids like. If you asked 7 year old me, or even me now, weather I wanted to ride something based off a movie I'd seen or an attraction with characters I didn't really know, I'd choose the one based off the movie every time.
People don’t buy haunted mansion or tiki room merch on the way out of the ride. That’s why the rides are themed now. Same deal in six flags, they just paint a rollercoaster yellow & red and call it “Wonder Woman”.
And plus, it literally has "Disney" in it's name Of course there would be Disney stuff at a park that has Disney in it's name, that's like going to a park called "SpongeBobLand" but when you get there, there are no SpongeBob related things there, not even toys or rides
My problem isn’t IPs. More attractions the better right? The actual problem is they replace old attractions with new IPs, but those new IPs don’t even really fit the theming. Epcot is a great example. Used to be a park that tried to inspire education in a fun way. Now we have Marvel coaster (I love marvel just not here) and frozen (a ride that fits better in fantasy land but they put it there because it had a vague connection to Norway)
Although I like the better rides. I agree Frozen belongs at MK. I just dislike the boring rides so I'm not against the replacement, they should upgrade them instead. Mickey's Runaway Railway for an example, it's a fun ride at HS but should probs be at MK too.
Disney has not lost creativity, they make rides from pre existing movies because a lots of people really love said movies and it brings in a lot of profit for Disney and fans still really love it
It makes sense to be based on a movie or show. You can go on random rides at theme parks everywhere. Kids get excited to go ride the Harry Potter Rides at Universal and the Frozen/Star Wars/themed ones at Disney.
Probably a third reason for this was Walt Disney actually put up his own money to get the park started. He created companies specifically for creation and imagineering of Disneyland that was not a part of Walt Disney Productions.
Disney hasn't "lost its ability to be creative." Disney has lost sight of its original mission. It puts the bean counters above the creatives and no longer allows them to do what they do best; tell stories. Also, the generation of Imagineers that started the whole thing in the 50s through the 70s are gone, and replaced with Engineers without the same capability for Imagination. And those that DO have the creative spark take second place to the pencil necks that put profit above EVERYTHING else.
Disney is just starting to use their original ideas in their park instead of random themed rides… It’s so cool and immersive experience for the movies we love
I personally don’t think Disney has lost its creativity. I think it has been focus in other areas. Like you said, all the the newer rides are about or themed around a movie or franchise, but the newest rides are highly advanced and innovative. Rides like the avatar rides in Animal Kingdom are extremely immersive and technologically complicated. The upcoming Tron ride in Magic Kingdom is turning out to be rather complex as well. So I think Disney is still creative, but not in the way we think.
Honestly, no. I don't think disney has lost their creativity. I would assume that with more new movies released, and with more new characters, guests would enjoy to see beyond the movies. Get to see more of the story. This is just my honest opinion.
I like the newer rides that have other things based off them cuz you can say things like oh I’ve loved that movie where as say for small world I’m like oh cool, it feels more magical
I don’t think Disney has lost their thing to be creative. I just think they’re teaming it more on Disney movies because that’s what little kids are into.
I definitely feel that making rides after movies adds to the magic, immersing you in the movies you love and making it a one of a kind experience. However, it is also cool riding something like Expedition Everest where the story is told through the ride and thats it. Both are great in their own way but using IPs reaches out to a broader audience
I actually don’t think so Just because your making stuff with ip does not mean your not “creative” Example, Universal, almost all of their rides us ip, and we praise them, but Disney gets called out as being “not creative” whenever they make an ip attraction
This is partially because originally Disney would get a corporate sponsor to pay for the ride, thus when that was phased out the attractions needed another way to pay for themselves
They turned it into a factory make safe content that they know will sell versus making good content that pushes boundaries and captured the imaginations of people everywhere
So many people forget that Disney, parks included, is a Business! Which means customer preference has directly affected most of the company’s choices. And Disney is very very good at listening to customer preference. When Disneyland first opened the number one complaint was “Where are the characters?” They didn’t have way around characters. And the rides where suppose to put the rider in place of the main character, so you saw the story from that viewpoint… yeah… no one got it! Lol So, Disney added characters! Want hadnt even designed walk around characters when it opened! But when it was apparent that’s what people wanted, he contracted some already made costumes from the ice capades! To terrifying results! Which they have since fixed. They where the first to feature, and perfect, walk around characters. They have taken risks by making new rides. New material. Some stay and become cannon. Some fail. Each is a financial risk. And, they have been around a long time. As new imageneers take over for old ones, some have great ideas, and some don’t. But all we remember in nostalgia is the good. A very good example is the now defunked and formally loved splash mountain. It came around in the late 80s-early 90s. Largely filled by animatronics from the outdated and aging America Sings. But the only material they had at the time that had matching characters was Song of the South, which had aged worse that America sings! But the characters are cute… and it’s space is in carefree country, so let’s take a risk. It was a hit! But it was still tied to a now-seen-as-racist movie in the past. And how that Disney has Tiana and the gang, well, it’s smart Business to use that movie for a revamp. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner! They will be, again, recycling whatever they can to save some $$. But what the customer likes, they will do. They are very good at producing what customers want: a nostalgic happy place where you can forget your worries. Because it’s become the company’s image for many growing generations. And they protect that image tooth and nail! Sometimes viciously! But they are a Business! And new material is risky. So they give us what is most likely to succeed…. Although I question the boatload of crappy remakes and live action re-adaptations of classics… but hopefully the new crop of Disney tops listen. And take more risks… 🤷🏻♀️
I think the imagineers are probably just as creative now as back then. Way back when the issue of building a ride was “what neat concept can we do and is it possible to be built?” Where as now it’s “how do we work with this theme to our advantage and is it possible to be built?” Another thing is that when people walk into Disney now, they want to see stuff based on the movies and shows
At Disney world (Orlando), Magic kingdom, they are taking down splash mountain. They are building Tiara’s castle. I was super bummed when I heard about it, because I never have been on it, because I was too little. I was SO excited about going on it this time, but then I heard the news.😢😢😢
It is because of something that Disney also coined called synergy. They use their rides to sell merchandise they make themed drinks foods etc. to capitalize on peoples love of characters and movies.
I prefer a mix. Some of the most recognizable rides are original themes, Tower of Terror, the Haunted Mansion, Expedition Everest, It's a Small World, etc.. I think the unique themes are important, and I think it would be really cool if they still created some. However, the ones based on IPs also bring in more guests, so I get it, and many of them are fun too. I haven't been to Disney World since I was a kid, probably like 13 years old was the last time I got to go (I'm 22 now), but the Star Tours ride based on Star Wars was one of my favorites. Still, my actual favorites were the Tower of Terror and the Rocking Rollar Coaster (kinda strangely based on the band Aerosmith).
I thought this was gonna be about the fact that all the new shows and movies they make are just taking the old good ideas and changing them to a point beyond recognition.
It’s not about ability to be creative, it’s about what draws in the most guests to the parks. Nobody would be as interested in a new slow moving ride with a completely new story and characters when they could have one including a bunch of famous ones. The old ones are allowed to stay because they’ve already gotten popular but when making new rides of course they’re gonna go with one of their hugely popular properties.
I feel like the newest creative ride was Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway because it has it's own story but it is based on the 2013 Paul Rudish Shorts "Mickey Mouse"
I don't think its any less creative. They are still creating an entire ride, most of the time with an entirely original story behind it. They are able to create a 1 for 1 real life remake of animated movies. Thats pretty creative. Not to mention the fact that rides like Lightyear and Pirates are just as fun for me as Space mountain and Exped. Everest.
tbh i liked it when not every ride was a movie theme i mean it’s cool and all but ima miss the ogs like splash mountain tower of terror journey of water js the classics not every ride has to be movie based it’s nice to see some creativity through the park outside of the movies that Disney makes
Fantasyland has long had Peter Pan, Dumbo, Casey Jr., Storybookland, Snow White, Pinocchio, Alice in Wonderland, and Mr. Toad as featured attractions, as well as walking through Sleeping Beauty's castle. Most Disney films to that point had been Fantasy related fairy tales. The other lands were themed around time periods and locales that didn't necessarily appear prominently in Disney films. (Exceptions such as the Swiss Family Robinson TreeHouse and Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes notwithstanding). However, as those films were created, they were incorporated into the parks. So I think early Disneyland was more of a mix of what was available in the Disney library, what was popular in American cinema and literature in general, and what reflected the nation's history and collective dreams for the future. I think we see the same innovation and creativity in today's attractions, with more of a focus on celebrating what is most popular within Disney's vast wealth of stories and films.
They were just more creative back then. They didn't want to be boxed in by their film line. Disney was bigger than that. It was a leader in entertainment and storytelling that went beyond the medium of film. It was a leader in innovation and imagining more. They found ways to make education into entertainment (Carousel of Progress, Hall of Presidents, Spaceship Earth). To tell stories through a ride instead of through a movie (Jungle Cruise, Pirates of the Carribean, Thunder Mountain). Frankly, these are my favorite parts of Disney. For example, I LOVED ExtraTerrorestial Alien Encounter when I was a kid of ten years old. I loved how scary it was. It was one of my favorite rides. When it turned into the Stitch ride, I think I rode it once, and it ultimately failed.
If you want to see a very creative and truly amazing park in terms of theming, world building and design with really amazing rides on top of that (and you ever get the chance to of course) I'd highly recommend checking out Phantasialand in Germany. Some of the attractions in the park even hold world records. I think the park has 8 in general but the selling point really is the amazing ambience and theming.
Not only in the parks. Movies too. All the live action remakes coming out of older movies. It's rare to see a movie that isn't a live action remake or followed by a number
Disney uses only IP now because they can use the rides to sell more merchandise. They can still have merch with non IPs but it won’t sell as well. It’s basically just to make money.
Something I’ve noticed is that basically every ride is that you are viewing something new and it goes wrong , eg giardians if the galaxy, Star Wars rise of the resistance, incredicoaster etc
Also in the 50s and 70s a lot of people wouldn’t have seen the older movies, and couldn’t if they wanted to. But now with Disney+ DVDs and even VHS Tape’s it’s easy to see a year’s old movie, Back then you saw it in movie theatres or you didn’t see it.
I understand that it's for the marketing purposes and that those rides work better with people but imo the true charm of a disney park is having exclusive rides only guests could experience themselves, basically having their own movie instead of relying on characters, even the old ip rides like snow white's adventures used not to have snow white in it to make us feel like WE are in snow white's shoes, so basically the main character!
My best guess it's a good thing since what if you go on a Avatar ride but never seen the movie and you loved the ride that makes you want to go home and watch the movie
A. Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway isn't based off a movie or any specific short. It's a completely original sorry. B. What the Imagineers want to do and want corporate wants are two different things. I'm convinced that the best theme part ever would be one completely run and designed by Imagineers. Lay. Off.
It starts off with false info, the original Disneyland relied on ip heavily, like Mickey and Minnie and all of them of course, but all of the fantasy land rides were based on ip, and about ip in the parks today, what’s going to draw more people in, an Encanto attraction, or a generic-ish ride?
Actually if you look at some of the most popular and least popular ridesthe popular ones are movie themed the least are individual ideas. They did it to get more business and add more and better rides to the park.
You have to also realize that Disneyland opened with Sleeping Beauty’s castle before the movie came out in hopes people would connect with it and see it in the theaters. Same thing with Cinderellas castle. Disney just now has more movies to play with and that’s what guests like. Guests are also different now then they were when they first opened. Guests liked theme parks for the sake of. Now new Disney guests want more of a Disney feel.
Good point re: Sleeping Beauty's Castle. Sometimes, I think Disney has lost its way....but if Walt was still around, I wonder if he would be making some of the same / similar decisions...based on guest's feedback. (Remember, he used to listen to guest's conversations while eating in some of the park's restaurants)
They probably stopped being so imaginative and creative because all the movies that they have released recently *1990s and up* have bathed in popularity and the addition of those themed rides to their park would probably attract more people and cause more people to spend more money on those rides and related items.
Expedition Everest was based off of a mythical being and a real life Mountain so not really original. But it’s still creative, they don’t just shove a movie into a ride and call it a day. I mean, they came up with a whole new planet for Galaxy’s Edge. And all the IP that Disney uses is still creative because Disney created it
Mickey Mouse gets people through the turnstiles, but they keep coming back for The Haunted Mansion. I love Peter Pan's Flight, but I could live without going on it everytime I'm in Disneyland. But, I can't leave the park without going on Pirates, Haunted Mansion, or seeing Mr. Lincoln. Disney still has the ability to be creative, they just don't want to.
And Disney these days probably sees alot of marketing success with creating attractions themed off of films; you like the film so you ride the ride. But it is interesting to know another reason why the early parks were mostly original ideas 🥰
Yeah both thrive off of each other.
You like the movie, go on the ride.
Like the ride, go watch the movie
Yep. You can even see this with rides based on more obscure movies like 20k leagues. Rides need the attraction of iconic movies to be popular enough to run.
it started with the massive success that universal had with harry potter, disney piggy backed, had massive success, and when you have success you seem to stick with it
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@@lemonlizard1 that's it, the human centipede of Disney Studios and Parks, basically
Like pirates of the Caribbean and jungle Cruise, we’re both rides before they became movies
I was literally coming here to say this! Now the movies are based on those guys rides rather than the other way round 😂
yea potc is defenetly the best darkride i've ever done (and im talking about the paris version) with phantom manor comming in second
So was tower of terror
The waffle house has found it's new host
And haunted mansion
It’s also do in a large part to guest preferences. When Disney’s California adventure at the Disneyland resort opened it had almost no Disney IP in it and because of that it wasn’t as successful as they anticipated. People were complaining that it didn’t feel very “Disney”. So to boost its popularity they started putting Disney IP into California adventure to try and make it more popular and it worked. Things like changing California screaming into “increda coaster” and changing there tower to guardians of the galaxy. The more IP they put into the park the less people complained about the lack of “Disney” in the park. It was in fact so successful that they started bringing this idea to other aspects of other parks like Disney’s Hollywood Studios over in Florida. It’s not that they don’t have the creativity to think of new rides they just know that putting in IP is going to get more bang for the buck compared to thinking up something new.
I think Pixar Pier definitely helped a lot with making California Adventure feel more Disney
Tower of terror was based off the twilight zone tho
@@sirsnek3933 yup, I saw it at Disney world before Disneyland and I’m live very close to Disneyland
Rip tower of terror
but tower of terror was based off a franchise? it was better as the tower of terror imo :/
I mean, this is just what kids like. If you asked 7 year old me, or even me now, weather I wanted to ride something based off a movie I'd seen or an attraction with characters I didn't really know, I'd choose the one based off the movie every time.
Yeah the first time I went to EPCOT that's exactly how it went. Now I miss the original edutaintment for some reason.
Not necessarily, my favorite ride as a kid at Disney and still to this day is thunder mountain, no movie, just a fun well themed ride 🤷♂️
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No imagination 7 year old, has grown into the modern day NPC. I’m shocked lmao
The worlds of their original rides are so intriguing. I mean look at Expedition Everest, almost every Tokyo Disney sea ride, and even Dinosaur.
People don’t buy haunted mansion or tiki room merch on the way out of the ride. That’s why the rides are themed now. Same deal in six flags, they just paint a rollercoaster yellow & red and call it “Wonder Woman”.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing.
Seeing the characters we love from the big screen make their way to physical attractions in Disney’s parks is fun!
Yes
@@thomasstory8251 Yes
But it gets boring fast
@@budi9573 how?
@@robloxman2387 its the same thing as the others
I like the change. For me it makes the experience more magical.
Yes, we come for stuff from Disney after all.
And plus, it literally has "Disney" in it's name
Of course there would be Disney stuff at a park that has Disney in it's name, that's like going to a park called "SpongeBobLand" but when you get there, there are no SpongeBob related things there, not even toys or rides
The price is not magical
@@gato48480it's magical how easily they can drain you of money lmao
@@gato48480 you’re not forced to go
My problem isn’t IPs. More attractions the better right? The actual problem is they replace old attractions with new IPs, but those new IPs don’t even really fit the theming.
Epcot is a great example. Used to be a park that tried to inspire education in a fun way. Now we have Marvel coaster (I love marvel just not here) and frozen (a ride that fits better in fantasy land but they put it there because it had a vague connection to Norway)
This is my thoughts
Although I like the better rides. I agree Frozen belongs at MK. I just dislike the boring rides so I'm not against the replacement, they should upgrade them instead. Mickey's Runaway Railway for an example, it's a fun ride at HS but should probs be at MK too.
Disney has not lost creativity, they make rides from pre existing movies because a lots of people really love said movies and it brings in a lot of profit for Disney and fans still really love it
It makes sense to be based on a movie or show. You can go on random rides at theme parks everywhere. Kids get excited to go ride the Harry Potter Rides at Universal and the Frozen/Star Wars/themed ones at Disney.
Agreed. I always say all the time that all of the good rides and places are not based of of characters in movies. They were based off of stories.
Which is not the same as basing them off of characters and movies?
Hard disagree with that opinion and logic
Probably a third reason for this was Walt Disney actually put up his own money to get the park started. He created companies specifically for creation and imagineering of Disneyland that was not a part of Walt Disney Productions.
*confused in Peter pans flight, snow whited scary adventure, and Mr toads wild ride*
One weird thing is disney keeps working with vekoma which is known for the roughest rides out there (now they are the smoothest out there)
I know right. Cosmic Rewind is one of the smoothest coaster ever and I was surprised it was Vekoma.
Disney hasn't "lost its ability to be creative." Disney has lost sight of its original mission. It puts the bean counters above the creatives and no longer allows them to do what they do best; tell stories. Also, the generation of Imagineers that started the whole thing in the 50s through the 70s are gone, and replaced with Engineers without the same capability for Imagination. And those that DO have the creative spark take second place to the pencil necks that put profit above EVERYTHING else.
I find it really sad that creative parks and areas like blizzard beach are slowly starting to be filled with disney properties
I thought the whole point of Disneyland was to see the characters that you love
No it wasn't. It was to create an amusement park that would be enjoyable for both kids and adults
Imagineers are still doing work! A movie doesn't magically transform into an interactive attraction without a professional involved
Disney is just starting to use their original ideas in their park instead of random themed rides…
It’s so cool and immersive experience for the movies we love
Counter point: we got pirates of the Caribbean and it became one of the best film franchises of all time
I personally don’t think Disney has lost its creativity. I think it has been focus in other areas. Like you said, all the the newer rides are about or themed around a movie or franchise, but the newest rides are highly advanced and innovative. Rides like the avatar rides in Animal Kingdom are extremely immersive and technologically complicated. The upcoming Tron ride in Magic Kingdom is turning out to be rather complex as well. So I think Disney is still creative, but not in the way we think.
Honestly, no. I don't think disney has lost their creativity. I would assume that with more new movies released, and with more new characters, guests would enjoy to see beyond the movies. Get to see more of the story. This is just my honest opinion.
I think it's based on making sales. They can link rides to movies and sell more merchandise as well. They have added so many stores
I like the newer rides that have other things based off them cuz you can say things like oh I’ve loved that movie where as say for small world I’m like oh cool, it feels more magical
Ok but cartoon animators working on theme park rides sounds like a horrifying idea.
the Disney Mickey cartoon rides is one of the best rides I've ridden. it feels like a dream
I think Mystic Manor shows that Disney Imagineers are still capable of developing unique creative rides.
I don’t think Disney has lost their thing to be creative. I just think they’re teaming it more on Disney movies because that’s what little kids are into.
I definitely feel that making rides after movies adds to the magic, immersing you in the movies you love and making it a one of a kind experience. However, it is also cool riding something like Expedition Everest where the story is told through the ride and thats it. Both are great in their own way but using IPs reaches out to a broader audience
They also fired every single one of the Imagineers and Animators in one weekend in 2005, just to outsource to Pixar! Nothing was the same after that.
The Star Wars one is incredible and amazing
While it be cool to see more original rides it’s pretty cool to see our favorite Disney characters go on an adventure in a ride
I actually don’t think so
Just because your making stuff with ip does not mean your not “creative”
Example, Universal, almost all of their rides us ip, and we praise them, but Disney gets called out as being “not creative” whenever they make an ip attraction
It's not a loss of creativity, it's an increase of reference materials.
I cried when I saw the storm troopers. That was so cool.
This is partially because originally Disney would get a corporate sponsor to pay for the ride, thus when that was phased out the attractions needed another way to pay for themselves
I don’t feel like Disney has lost its creativity but I feel like they’re creative in a new way
They turned it into a factory make safe content that they know will sell versus making good content that pushes boundaries and captured the imaginations of people everywhere
And Disney made a few movies based on rides, like Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion to name a few.
I loved that one clip with the avatars
So many people forget that Disney, parks included, is a Business! Which means customer preference has directly affected most of the company’s choices. And Disney is very very good at listening to customer preference.
When Disneyland first opened the number one complaint was “Where are the characters?” They didn’t have way around characters. And the rides where suppose to put the rider in place of the main character, so you saw the story from that viewpoint… yeah… no one got it! Lol So, Disney added characters! Want hadnt even designed walk around characters when it opened! But when it was apparent that’s what people wanted, he contracted some already made costumes from the ice capades! To terrifying results! Which they have since fixed. They where the first to feature, and perfect, walk around characters.
They have taken risks by making new rides. New material. Some stay and become cannon. Some fail. Each is a financial risk. And, they have been around a long time. As new imageneers take over for old ones, some have great ideas, and some don’t. But all we remember in nostalgia is the good.
A very good example is the now defunked and formally loved splash mountain. It came around in the late 80s-early 90s. Largely filled by animatronics from the outdated and aging America Sings. But the only material they had at the time that had matching characters was Song of the South, which had aged worse that America sings! But the characters are cute… and it’s space is in carefree country, so let’s take a risk. It was a hit! But it was still tied to a now-seen-as-racist movie in the past.
And how that Disney has Tiana and the gang, well, it’s smart Business to use that movie for a revamp. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner! They will be, again, recycling whatever they can to save some $$. But what the customer likes, they will do.
They are very good at producing what customers want: a nostalgic happy place where you can forget your worries. Because it’s become the company’s image for many growing generations. And they protect that image tooth and nail! Sometimes viciously!
But they are a Business! And new material is risky. So they give us what is most likely to succeed…. Although I question the boatload of crappy remakes and live action re-adaptations of classics… but hopefully the new crop of Disney tops listen. And take more risks… 🤷🏻♀️
universal sitting in the background glancing around nervously
i get excited every time i see oswald merch or see him somewhere in these videos.
I think the imagineers are probably just as creative now as back then. Way back when the issue of building a ride was “what neat concept can we do and is it possible to be built?” Where as now it’s “how do we work with this theme to our advantage and is it possible to be built?” Another thing is that when people walk into Disney now, they want to see stuff based on the movies and shows
People (especially kids) don’t get excited for rides with new stories. They get excited to ride the new Star Wars ride, or the new Frozen ride.
At Disney world (Orlando), Magic kingdom, they are taking down splash mountain. They are building Tiara’s castle. I was super bummed when I heard about it, because I never have been on it, because I was too little. I was SO excited about going on it this time, but then I heard the news.😢😢😢
Its less about them losing creativity, more just it being more marketable to make a star wars ride, as opposed to a completely new idea
It is because of something that Disney also coined called synergy. They use their rides to sell merchandise they make themed drinks foods etc. to capitalize on peoples love of characters and movies.
I prefer a mix. Some of the most recognizable rides are original themes, Tower of Terror, the Haunted Mansion, Expedition Everest, It's a Small World, etc.. I think the unique themes are important, and I think it would be really cool if they still created some. However, the ones based on IPs also bring in more guests, so I get it, and many of them are fun too. I haven't been to Disney World since I was a kid, probably like 13 years old was the last time I got to go (I'm 22 now), but the Star Tours ride based on Star Wars was one of my favorites. Still, my actual favorites were the Tower of Terror and the Rocking Rollar Coaster (kinda strangely based on the band Aerosmith).
These memes where so good it saved me from splash back on the toilet
I’m not worried. Look how immersive and creative rise of the resistance is
They could be creative by being inclusive of the characters. And still improvising in all the areas while adding potential Easter eggs
I thought this was gonna be about the fact that all the new shows and movies they make are just taking the old good ideas and changing them to a point beyond recognition.
That ride scared the heck out of me
Yes and that’s why all the new rides have merc shops when you’re exiting
The beginning part of the haunted mansion tripped me out the first time Ngl
It’s not about ability to be creative, it’s about what draws in the most guests to the parks. Nobody would be as interested in a new slow moving ride with a completely new story and characters when they could have one including a bunch of famous ones. The old ones are allowed to stay because they’ve already gotten popular but when making new rides of course they’re gonna go with one of their hugely popular properties.
And now they are turning splash mountain into a Tiana based ride
Tbf, splash mountain is already an IP based ride
I feel like the newest creative ride was Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway because it has it's own story but it is based on the 2013 Paul Rudish Shorts "Mickey Mouse"
Seeing how their animated series are like now, then YES
I don't think its any less creative. They are still creating an entire ride, most of the time with an entirely original story behind it.
They are able to create a 1 for 1 real life remake of animated movies. Thats pretty creative.
Not to mention the fact that rides like Lightyear and Pirates are just as fun for me as Space mountain and Exped. Everest.
tbh i liked it when not every ride was a movie theme i mean it’s cool and all but ima miss the ogs like splash mountain tower of terror journey of water js the classics not every ride has to be movie based it’s nice to see some creativity through the park outside of the movies that Disney makes
Fantasyland has long had Peter Pan, Dumbo, Casey Jr., Storybookland, Snow White, Pinocchio, Alice in Wonderland, and Mr. Toad as featured attractions, as well as walking through Sleeping Beauty's castle. Most Disney films to that point had been Fantasy related fairy tales. The other lands were themed around time periods and locales that didn't necessarily appear prominently in Disney films. (Exceptions such as the Swiss Family Robinson TreeHouse and Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes notwithstanding). However, as those films were created, they were incorporated into the parks. So I think early Disneyland was more of a mix of what was available in the Disney library, what was popular in American cinema and literature in general, and what reflected the nation's history and collective dreams for the future. I think we see the same innovation and creativity in today's attractions, with more of a focus on celebrating what is most popular within Disney's vast wealth of stories and films.
That's actually really cool. I did not know that
The rides you think don't have IP do have some sort of IP in them it's just not over the top like the newer ones
They were just more creative back then. They didn't want to be boxed in by their film line. Disney was bigger than that. It was a leader in entertainment and storytelling that went beyond the medium of film. It was a leader in innovation and imagining more. They found ways to make education into entertainment (Carousel of Progress, Hall of Presidents, Spaceship Earth). To tell stories through a ride instead of through a movie (Jungle Cruise, Pirates of the Carribean, Thunder Mountain). Frankly, these are my favorite parts of Disney. For example, I LOVED ExtraTerrorestial Alien Encounter when I was a kid of ten years old. I loved how scary it was. It was one of my favorite rides. When it turned into the Stitch ride, I think I rode it once, and it ultimately failed.
If you want to see a very creative and truly amazing park in terms of theming, world building and design with really amazing rides on top of that (and you ever get the chance to of course) I'd highly recommend checking out Phantasialand in Germany. Some of the attractions in the park even hold world records. I think the park has 8 in general but the selling point really is the amazing ambience and theming.
Expedition Everest is my favorite ride at Disney, and I believe it's the most recent non IP ride made.
I mean there’s still creativity that goes into designing their so I would say they haven’t lost their creativity.
Me when I see Disney characters in Disneyland: 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Not only in the parks. Movies too. All the live action remakes coming out of older movies. It's rare to see a movie that isn't a live action remake or followed by a number
Dumbo, Snow White, Casey Jr, Alice in wonderland, Mr. Toad, Peter Pan, Cinderella, sleeping beauty, Davy Crockett.
Has not lost it, just expresses it through its different IPs.
Disney uses only IP now because they can use the rides to sell more merchandise. They can still have merch with non IPs but it won’t sell as well. It’s basically just to make money.
Interesting! I didn't even know that Disneyland was that old!
Something I’ve noticed is that basically every ride is that you are viewing something new and it goes wrong , eg giardians if the galaxy, Star Wars rise of the resistance, incredicoaster etc
I live in Orlando and this is so true like the beauty and the beast play could have been a show like the Winnie the Pooh ride😢😢
They do that for kids so they can recognize characters and you try making a theme park with new ideas every ride
Also in the 50s and 70s a lot of people wouldn’t have seen the older movies, and couldn’t if they wanted to. But now with Disney+ DVDs and even VHS Tape’s it’s easy to see a year’s old movie, Back then you saw it in movie theatres or you didn’t see it.
I remember that animal ride from animal kingdom. It was so cool to see a rhino and cheetah irl
I understand that it's for the marketing purposes and that those rides work better with people but imo the true charm of a disney park is having exclusive rides only guests could experience themselves, basically having their own movie instead of relying on characters, even the old ip rides like snow white's adventures used not to have snow white in it to make us feel like WE are in snow white's shoes, so basically the main character!
My best guess it's a good thing since what if you go on a Avatar ride but never seen the movie and you loved the ride that makes you want to go home and watch the movie
A. Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway isn't based off a movie or any specific short. It's a completely original sorry.
B. What the Imagineers want to do and want corporate wants are two different things. I'm convinced that the best theme part ever would be one completely run and designed by Imagineers.
Lay. Off.
I think it should be a mix of the two, have some attractions and areas based off of IPs and others off of original stuff
Also Walt Disney was alive and was involved with every project and told them all what he wanted and how to do it
Honestly I don't think so sure they use IPs but the way they use them mixed with technology we have now is actually pretty creative
I rode those rocket things at night during fireworks, 10/10 must do
People want relatable rides. Young children respond to what they know already.
It starts off with false info, the original Disneyland relied on ip heavily, like Mickey and Minnie and all of them of course, but all of the fantasy land rides were based on ip, and about ip in the parks today, what’s going to draw more people in, an Encanto attraction, or a generic-ish ride?
Short answer: YES
Actually if you look at some of the most popular and least popular ridesthe popular ones are movie themed the least are individual ideas. They did it to get more business and add more and better rides to the park.
You have to also realize that Disneyland opened with Sleeping Beauty’s castle before the movie came out in hopes people would connect with it and see it in the theaters. Same thing with Cinderellas castle. Disney just now has more movies to play with and that’s what guests like. Guests are also different now then they were when they first opened. Guests liked theme parks for the sake of. Now new Disney guests want more of a Disney feel.
Good point re: Sleeping Beauty's Castle.
Sometimes, I think Disney has lost its way....but if Walt was still around, I wonder if he would be making some of the same / similar decisions...based on guest's feedback. (Remember, he used to listen to guest's conversations while eating in some of the park's restaurants)
i love all of the original rides, but the ones based on movies make so much more sense lmao
They probably stopped being so imaginative and creative because all the movies that they have released recently *1990s and up* have bathed in popularity and the addition of those themed rides to their park would probably attract more people and cause more people to spend more money on those rides and related items.
I remember watching a Bill Nye episode where they actually did an interview with a imagineer of the time and him testing out rides
I like how it’s based on the movies now rather than random things (not saying any of the older rides weren’t cool)
It's crazy how some movies where based of rides like pirates if the Caribbean (it has been updated to include jack sparrow but you know)
The last original creative thought any of these Disney imagineers ever had for the parks was expedition Everest at animal Kingdom.
Expedition Everest was based off of a mythical being and a real life Mountain so not really original. But it’s still creative, they don’t just shove a movie into a ride and call it a day. I mean, they came up with a whole new planet for Galaxy’s Edge. And all the IP that Disney uses is still creative because Disney created it
Mickey Mouse gets people through the turnstiles, but they keep coming back for The Haunted Mansion.
I love Peter Pan's Flight, but I could live without going on it everytime I'm in Disneyland. But, I can't leave the park without going on Pirates, Haunted Mansion, or seeing Mr. Lincoln.
Disney still has the ability to be creative, they just don't want to.
I remember that Halloween ride from 2013
I think Disney has shifted it creativity. Cosmic Rewind... IYKYK