Destiny 2: Season of the Splicer - Mithrax Tells Saint-14 About Monsters + New Monster Cutscene
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- Destiny 2: Season of the Splicer - Mithrax Tells Saint-14 About Monsters + New Monster Cutscene
Mithrax is outraged at the recent vandalizing of their Ether stocks, which Crow stopped before more damage could be done, and Saint-14 and Lakshmi-2 are their to confront him. Lakshmi brushes off Mithrax's grievances. However, Saint stays and hears Mithrax's story, about a monster...
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Lakshmi is the sort of person I leave burning alive on the bank of a lava river
I understood that reference.
She doesn’t have the high ground only the lower ground.
Same kenobi same
Kenobi, lakshmi isn't an orphan like anikin and ain't u dead?
@@crazyconnor3168 he came back for the series
Lakshmi: *takes multiple jabs at Mithrax & the Eliksni as whole*
Mithrax: *passively nods and defends his side*
You & Saint: Why are we even here?
Felt that, just saw it today
Just to suffer
The Saint is redeemable. So is the guardian.
@@vertigo3612 what do we have to redeem? We've agreed with the eliksni in the situation the whole time
To protect her maybe lol?
Bet she knew what she was gonna say and thought as them as still beast that would attack her just for her words..
Despite of that, She got calmed answers and it might have escalated giving Her an ego boost to say even worse.. Thats how i see the whole situation
I don't think even _Uldren_ got me filled with this much rage, to be honest
Honestly uldren didnt even make me mad ONCE i found out he was under the control of a wishing dragon anyways, what he did was basically out of his control he was under manipulative forces. Future war cult is choosing to be spiteful and angry.
@@s.i.v.a1232 Lakshmi could be under control or just be manipulated from Savathun though.
His name is crow. Now
@@thecastleofnothing7074 That matters how? I was talking about Uldren. Not Crow.
@@veyrix1418 idk if exos can be affected. I think she's honestly just a bitch
Saint is like "this interaction is surprisingly better than the interactions I see in trials."
I mean, this interaction doesn’t involve stasis-crazed maniacs, so that’s a given.
@@AngeMaru486 or hackers
@@neville1021 personal headcanon: hackers are just insanely powerful guardians that are destroyed as fast as they're discovered so that the power doesn't get to their head
@@err894 I’ll do you one better, hackers are actually guardians who decided to ignore the contracts and game mode regulations and use their full powers
There’s a difference between never forgetting and never forgiving
And Lakshmi was both of them
@@toddelmsworth640 Have you read the above all else lore book. I felt bad before but now fuck you mithrax still love ya but you can't talk
Yup
Dark Angels:
@@thechadcruzaider7864 yup
Saint "You can't expect people to live beside their monsters."
Mithrax "Alright listen here now."
If Saint is feared that badly, I can’t imagine what other races say about our guardian.
That would be intereating.
I really really really really REALLY want to know too, saint is considered a demon and a monster, WE are the ‘mentor’ of that monster and we have killed like double or triple he had AND killed MULTIPLE GODS I think that doesn’t gives a reason as to why we can’t have our own lore book yet
For real, the Guardian’s are kind of horrifying from an outside perspective. Undead warriors, wielding terrible powers, unstoppable and utterly relentless. Creatures that actively tear each other apart for sport, willingly summon the Taken to fight them for profit, court the Darkness for even more power, and will go to any length for a new weapon to kill with.
@@dannyyoroi1955 If Guardians are Demi Gods and we are the pinnacle Would that make us God of Guardians?
@@Shadowpaw67 At the same time, these are the same creatures that commit suicide for fun, dance for no reason, hoard various weapons, and die if they land on a slope the wrong way.
I like how after that story Saint and Mithrax just stand there quiety.
I looked up a vid to make sure mine wasn’t bugged lol
They just don’t bother to give saints reaction to the story! What a missed opportunity!
@@zacharyrosmanitz7547 I think silence was a good choice, but not in the way they did it because it just makes it seem like an awkward bug
@@appleonshoe845 it would make more sense for him to look down and think about it for a second, then transmat
Saint's reaction: *BRUH*
Misraax's reaction to Saint's silence: I shouldn't have said that, I should not have said that.
Us: Sheesh, I wonder what scary story they have about us.
Mithrax: you killed half my species!
Saint: do you realize how little that narrows it down?
*Meanwhile fallen are eating human babies for around a century or 5*
@@funbro99 as they should!
I mean they did sack the city at least twice.
They really made us hate Lakshmi more than Uldren Sov back then lol😂
I agree. F the FCW.
Tbh, this is kinda true cuz uldren was manipulated by riven
@@crazyconnor3168 technically savathun same as Lakshmi and I might be paranoid but did the song of the people Lakshmi sang sounded like savathun's song
@@LuciferD2 Idk, never heard savathuns song but now I am tempted to listen to it, just for research
@@crazyconnor3168 remember the shadowkeep intro
Mithrax has been the hommie sense the Outbreak Perfected Quest
Nah since the mission on Titan called enemy of my enemy
@@DavisonVoices that was him?
@@liamcade1455 yh the guy that gave you the reactor
@@liamcade1455 I was surprised too.
Mithrax: "My people are suffering."
Lakshimi: "I miss the part where that's my problem."
Lakshmi: "The Vex are attacking me!"
Mithrax: "I miss the part where that's my problem."
@@dereklednicky8590 🤣🤣
Oh man, if the Fallen have such scary stories about the Saint I’d hate to hear what stories of the Wolf were like to all the other races
Eliknsi. That is racist to call them that
@@thecastleofnothing7074 it saint is the fallen racist
They are called fallen due to what took place on riis, their species is eliksni. Fallen is a title given to them through the hardships they experienced while the other is their species.
We'd just be everyone's doom guy
Whats the Wolf?
every week i start liking mithrax more and hate Lakshmi more and more . never judge a book frome the outside mithrax is good eliksni
I agree with you there, brotha.
I've liked mithrax since he was introduced in that mission on titan he's such an interesting well written character who only wants to help humanity
@@johngancarcik5682 I'm glad I spared him.
To be fair, at this point Lakshmi is trying to gain power, she’s planning a cue against the vanguard, but so far this story is amazing
@@goldenguardian8753 she's gunna be spare parts soon
Here’s the thing about Saint-14: he, like Saladin, is a veteran of The Collapse. When the Darkness first came, and both the Eliksni AND humanity was at their lowest point, and at their worst and cruelest. Fighting is all Saint-14 has known most of his life when we rescued him. Plus, the reason Mithrax’s words reached him, and why he would NEVER side with Lakshimi’s coup: ....us. Saint himself said WE were his inspiration, HIS role model to aspire to be like! That’s why he said those words: “I’m still trying.” as he stepped out the Infinite Forest! Because now he asking himself: “.....What would the guardian do?”. We’re the reason Saint still has his compassion and humanity, that hasn’t been embittered by war and conflict thinking that humanity doesn’t need allies with House of Light, or a treaty with the Cabal, or allies with the Awoken! Thinking that we need no one, and are better off alone! THAT’S how the Collapse kicked our ass the FUCKING FIRST TIME!
This is by far the best comment here that defends each side correctly.
Saint was literally anti-Eliksni until this very moment. Stop making Saint infallible. He's great because he's flawed and admits his mistakes, especially after this scene where his entire demeanor changes towards Mithrax and the Eliksni. He didn't give two shits about the Eliksni going throuhh the same shit as humanity, he like all the other named lore figures knew this the moment Fallen showed up as enemies. THIS SCENE is when Saint decides to change because he figured out he was no better than Lakshmi in the context of treating the Eliksni.
Up until this very moment he's been every bit as bloodthirsty as every fucking guardian player talking mad shit white mowing down Eliksni since D1. So again, stop pretending Saint or the Guardian(s) were infallible. Everyone was fucking racist until Saint started being better after this scene, and Bungie did this on purpose, beautifully done I might add, since making SAINT of all people change his behaviour ensured even numbskulled dudebros would follow suit.
@@spikysmoothness you mean stop making Saint a saint?
Saint 14:What have I done!
Also Saint:So anyway ı still hate them
Its been leaked that Saint will be there to protect Mithraxx and his people
This has to end I swear
Lakshmi is bringing this upon herself
And with the season finale, she did so in the most fitting way possible.
I'm glad Crow stepped in during the sabotage when he did, the perps would have done worse. It's hilarious that one of the humans tried to attack Crow lmao
He didnt try, he considered doing it
@@supercato9613 he considered shooting them. But he did intervene before anymore damage was done
@@lukethepotatoking Wait who are you talking about now?
Just read that lore entry. My boi Crow is a real one. Definitely wanna see him interact with House Light at some point.
@@supercato9613 Crow. In the latest lore entry, Crow stopped a few of the anti eliksni from continuing their attack on the camp. He thought about shooting them
In one of these moments I would have loved to see our guardian intervene and stop her from saying any more bullshit!
I know right!?! Whyd we just stand there..? Doing nothing n not help its taking a *chance* yet we just stood there...
Man, I don’t if because I’m ACTUALLY keeping up to date with all of this lore it once but this season has got me tense as FUCK rn. We kinda all knew where Caitl was going with her plan but this is beyond anything like before.
Whoever the hell bungie hired for the last three seasons deserves a raise. Cause I’m sitting here in disbelief knowing I sided with FWC back then. This story/world building is amazing
Same I went with FWC too now Im like I want nothing to do with it lol
I sided with Red Monarchy and I know they are in this shit with FWC too. I'm knee deep in this thing and if there's no way else to deal with it I won't hesitate to pull the trigger on traitors of last city and those who are under the spell of... Savathuun.
The factions need new leadership based on the events of the Coup lore card. All three of them have admitted that they're using this coup to seek personal power rather than genuine concern.
I just liked FWC cause of their 80s aesthetics, but I went with New Monarchy cause they’re tied to the city.
I’m an Eliksni sympathizer though so FWC sickens me now.
I guess those snipers they have stationed on them must of been on a coffee break...
"Yo, should we be stopping that mob down there?"
"Naw, we're on our legally required break. Whatever damage they do, no matter how significant, is not our responsibility at the moment."
@@elitegamer9310 "hey is that ikora?"
"Oh shit"
@@Blaze-xe8cl "Sound the alarm."
"But you said we're on br-"
"I SAID SOUND THE ALARM!"
@@elitegamer9310 *eliskni screams*
Saint did say no one would talk.
So, at first I though Lakshmi was simply full of prejudice. Understandable, for the same reason we said Zavala was crazy for allying with the cabal on the sneak peaks before the season of the chosen started without knowing the details of how that would be forged. The Fallen have been one of our greatest enemies for so long, second only to the hive until Ghaul bound the traveler, that the idea of letting them inside the last city and extend our protection to them seems way to drastic of a change if you don't know about Mithrax, his ideals, his past interaction with other humans in many forms (awoken, exos and earthlings). So it's up to us to show her House Light is as different from the House of Devils or Salvation as the current Vanguard is different from the Iron Lords and all the other guardians that abused their lights before the foundation of the city.
Then, when she just kept talking about her vision of the future, how she's seen the bloodshed inside the city and how we didn't listen to her when she warned us about the red war I felt some sympathy for her. Her frustation for not being able to get through the vanguard and prevent the Cabal from taking the tower, the city, feeds her determination and her fear of making the same mistakes than in the past prevent her from seing that she's the one making her terrible vision come true. The Eliksni aren't enemies, she is making an enemy out of them. It's her actions that are bringing that vision to reality, like Oedipus' myth.
But, now, here, I think it was made clear that I was wrong. She is not oblivous about the fact that she is causing her vision. She is working towards it. She wants an uprising, a civil war inside the walls, she wants unrest, she wants people against the leadership of the vanguard, she is very deliberately making the eternal night worse so that people get angrier at Zavala and Ikora, as if they weren't doing anything. She is preparing the city for a coup, that's her real motivation behind all this. It's not to avoid the Eliksni betraying us, is not to end the long night, it's not what's best for the city. She is thirsty for power. She refuses to listen to Mithrax even when he is making all the sense in the world, she dismisses the efforts of his splicers even though she very well knows that dealing with Vex paradoxes is not something simple, even when their efforts have helped her acquire information on the Vex network she would have never been able to get without House Light. She pretends to be innocent, ignorant and powerless to be able to help the city be more accepting of them when she is telling the people that the Eliksni are still enemies and to rise to action. And to top it all off, she bad mouths Ikora, Zavala and Osiris calling them politicians!
God, I hope we get to put a bullet betwen her eyes. The Hive at least know they are cold blooded monsters and don't try to hide the fact.
I will do whatever it takes to protect Zavala and Ikora! And the Eliksni refugees!
We didn’t get to put that bullet in her, but the Vex took care of that for us.
She got what was coming to her.
Yeah she wanted to overthrow the Vanguard, I regret ever having supported the Future War Cult.
Mithrax's voice is so damn cool, they did a great job making it sound similar to the fallen chatter you hear in the overworld.
They went from space pirates to space samurai real quick
@@SquashGuy02134 Por que no los dos?
@@blackh9604 Sí senior
Funny how Lakshmi dosnt realize that by interveening with this peace shes going to cause the mess than prevent it
She does. In a weapon lore tab, it shows that a possible future has the Eliksni rebel, get crushed, and Lakshmi becomes the head of the City.
@@Sir_Crow She wants that future to happen...
they're not called the "future *peace* cult," now are they?
1:12
Saint *looks at us*
“What da fck are we doing here?”
That was probably a very hard slap of reality for Saint
Yeeeeeppppp!
Yep
Nope. Didn't you hear his line about MIthrax saving his false holiness. Saint is right, we didn't go to Riis to attack the fallen, THEY came and attacked us.
All this talk about pursuing the great machine, when they came and started pillaging and slaughtering us out of jealously. Why? Because their great machine abandoned them and choose us.
I'm all for Mithrax's cause but only house light. The rest of the houses, need to pay their dues.
@@marlonthomas2713 problem is **THERE IS ONLY THREE HOUSES LEFT. THAT BEING OF DUSK SALVATION AND LIGHT. (NOT COUNTING THE SCORN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ELIKNSI ANYMORE) THESE ARE THE LAST THREE ELIKNSI HOUSES**
@@thecastleofnothing7074 Technically 4 if you count House judgement. Also.......WHY ARE YOU YELLING??? 😂😂
I love how Mithrax goes to Saint like "Listen here you little shit..."
Golden
They need an ornament that puts the skeleton decal on saint-14’s helmet
Here we are a year later and Bungie did exactly that!
Saint after hearing that story
Saint: Hmm I don't know how to feel about that I'm kinda numb with rage
Lakshmi is a great villain.. in that she reflects real villains. In our world. She seems more real to me because of that.
She earns more hatred from me than a strictly fictional character like Uldren ever could.
Bear in mind, lakshmi is most likely gonna start the bloodshed in the tower that she warns many people about, she is like a manipulater but will most likely fail with caitla hearin the transmissions from her ship and telling zavala
@@crazyconnor3168 She'll fail because her plan is stupid. Her goal is to prevent the future she saw, and become the City's new leader. The problem is that the steps Lakshmi is taking to avoid that future is what's leading us there. Instead of working with us in making this little arrangement a peaceful one, she goes out of her way to spread Anti Eliskni propaganda and saying "Hey guys I saw the future and those House Light dudes are going to kill us" does NO ONE any good. The City is already in a bad enough state, and the last thing it needs is a demagogue.
@@elitegamer9310 what's worse is her basis for all this is faulty to begin with. She's using a VEX predicion engine during a crisis set up by the VEX to use as evidence against the Eliskni. It's like borrowing a common enemy's phone to show evidence against a supposed ally.
@@awsometrooper0736 The Device is derived from Vex technology, but it's not 100% Vex tech.
@@elitegamer9310 yup, she says she is trying to prevent this bloodshed but she is making it worse with her propoganda
I really really hate Lakshmi
I understand where saints coming from due to well how he had been fighting for lifetimes trying to save everyone and failing
Even he can come to terms with Mithrax trying to do his best for his people like Saint did
Lakshmi however did see possible futures, in one of them she was the dictator of the last city, a hero, so she is trying everything to make that future happen.
I just love how all you guys are so against racism that you’ve resulted in creative ways to kill lakshmi
I’m proud of y’all
I've seen just as many how run around and saying we should just exterminate all Eliksni for crimes they did not commit and wars they didn't start.
Man....hearing mithrax's storybabout saint really got me thinking about how the storys are for other guardians and for different factions.
Man.
I really want a small, focused, ODST-style spinoff where we play as the Fallen.
I thought my game was bugged because Saint and Mithrax is just standing there after the cutscene. Guess Saint is just speechless, lol
Also, new Eido transmission regarding the incident btw. Check the sabotaged Ether tank and other objects
We call us guardians but to other we are Revenants a monster born from vengeance doomed to never rest as to clench a thrist that never stops as we cannot not die for each death makes us just stronger
I never thought we'd get a character more vile, then Uldren Sov.... Impressive Bungie...
I ain't, but I see what ya mean, I do agree.
Lakshmi 2 is The evil one here
Mithrax: you’ve killed so many of my people
Saint: oh man buddy you should of seen what I did to the vex!
Didn't he keep fighting until he completely ran out of ammo? And then fight some more anyway?
The silence afterwards was just...heavy. I felt like a genuine monster after itbwas all said and done too. Whiever did Splicer is a fantastic writer
It's been a full year and this is still one of the best cutscenes they've ever made
After that cutscene right there, we just stood there in silence and think to ourselves “Am I a monster too?”
It's important to note that in all the lore tabs and lore books for this season that Mithrax is in, he is frequently apologizing on behalf of both himself and his own house for their tacit condoning of the Fallen houses actions out of fear and cowardice and even apologizes on behalf of all Eliksni houses including ones they had no control over. For how far the Eliksni have Fallen and the many ways they hold great blame for what happened between Humanity and the Eliksni first contacts through direct or indirect action. For heinous war crimes committed by his people, even by some who they have forgiven on the condition that they follow the House of Light's rules from now on. He's not asking Saint to forgive the pardoned criminals, nor even the majority of the Fallen Eliksni, but now he's putting his foot down and telling Saint that he needs to accept this small peace and see how many Eliksni will stand up to the Fallen if we just give them the option and that to stamp on that just because all we see are monsters will doom both their races. He wants to show Saint that the Eliksni have always had innocents coerced into giving the Fallen houses their resources and services under duress, and even attempted settlements separate from the houses that were mistaken for raiding camps that Saint raided seeking vengeance. Lady Efrideet's lore even mentions peaceful "bug" colonies that I can only assume were implied to be Eliksni. Mithrax isn't asking Saint to forgive his people, he's asking him to swallow his ire and give them another chance. And I'm very glad Saint did so.
I swear to god if I don’t get to put a round through Lakshmi’s head by the end of the season I’m gonna rage.
Saint 14 is the DOOM Slayer to the Eliksni... I don't know if I am supposed to think that's awesome or terrifying.
I don't think I've ever felt more violently angry towards a character than Lakshmi.
It'd be a shame if an Arc Titan accidentally grasped Lakshmi's head like it was a football and proceeded to zap her systems accidentally of course.
Drifter : in the end,humanity,fallen,hive even god like guardian is a monster
Lakshimi is a type of person say their people also face this terror but not see how the enemy problem
I wonder if Lakshmi has a back-up in the Deep Stone Crypt, because she’ll need it after I Spartan kick her off the top of the Tower.
I would definitely be screaming if I found myself in a Bubble...
Mithrax telling saint he murdered thousands of his people.
Saint: "did I ask?"
Mithrax is already one of my favorite characters
3:05 Why is Crota's symbol on one of the house banners?
the story telling is so good because you can see every side the fwc is smart and has predicted terrible things and they are fueled by what the fallen have done to us we have been scorned and tortured by them but they have also been tortured by us every side has a story to tell and this new era is putting all of our actions as guardians into question
It really shines a light on the theory that guardians might not be the bringers of light like we have been taught..
Lucifer literally means Light Bringer.
Lol saint just speechless
If Saint is this terrifying to them, I wonder what other enemies think of my guardian
To this date we’ve never actively slaughtered hostile children so-
Saint be like "woah there buddy gimme like half an hour to think about all this".
I always found it interesting how after the story, Saint 14 doesn't just transmat himself away like everyone else always does at the end of a dialogue; Like he's stuck in contemplation after hearing from Mithrax about how the eliksni view Saint 14 as a horrific monster who slaughters innocents and not the sort of gentle giant most people of the city see him as
Human children love Saint 14, he's a hero to them. Eliksni children see him and they run in terror thinking he'll chase them down and kill them on the spot for reasons they don't even understand
I really wish they put in saints reaction to that story...
They did go see him
Mithrax: *Starts spitting facts*
Saint-14: "Bro I'mma have to go lay back down, I'm dead."
At first, I merely thought the fallen like
*Nah*
Now, I can understand what do they feel. They need to do everything they can to survive
"It called itself the Saint."
I like that there's no dialouge right after the cutscene between them. It is as if Saint stood there contemplating what to say but there's no words that he could use to justify nor deny what Mithrax said. Yet, he refuse to run away and accepted the fault in his words. That he is the monster the Eliksni believes him to be just as much as he is a guardian.
It was risen from the grave to bring hell to God and mortal alike, it tore through our legions, it crashed through our defense and left nothing but ash and death in it's wake, it could die, but it would not stay dead, even the greatest of our forces laid shattered in it's wake, and if it spotted you, if caught you in it's cold dead gaze, dragged you kicking and screaming into the night, none lived to speak of these horrors, and as it's March of death tore through all who challenged it one name was whispered through storm, it called itself, The Guardian.
After that cutscene I stepped back and expect something will happen.
I actually stared at saint for a bit after that then backed away a bit. Some stories are truly horrifying on the other side of the page
Seems obvious to me, I mean look at all the shit we have done before we even hit the Black Garden for the first time, you're telling me you never wondered what stories the Fallen, Cabal and Hive told about us or how the Vex portray us in their simulations?
Easily the most powerful cutscene in the entire series - the lead up to it, the execution - it was perfect. When Destiny moved to storyboard style animation, it gave them so much scope to be creative, emotive and this scene in particular capitalizes on that extremely well.
Lakshmi is heading to the chop chop
Savathun infected Lakshmi's network, and Lakshmi plays right into her hands because she's already become obsessed with the Future War, that's the whole point of calling her faction Future War Cult! She has already gone well past the point of trying to avert the future she sees, she is actively trying to bring it about, because preparing for the Future War is all that she knows! Savathun didn't even need to take control of her, just nudge her in the direction she wanted to go in the first place. She can't even consider alternative explanations for what she sees, everything is twisted by her mind to make it the future she WANTS to see, the future she has been warning people about, she can't stand to be wrong about it. She sees Mithrax's Eliksni within the burning city and takes it as proof that she is right about the Eliksni betraying us, when wouldn't it be more logical to surmise that Mithrax and the house of Light are in the burning city because they are defending it alongside us? Because they never gave up on it being their home even after Lakshmi called them squatters and told them to move on?
The Darkness conjured nightmares from our personal terrors. Taniks, Crota, Firkul, Ghaul, all of them were made manifest as nightmares to torment humanity. But imagine a nightmare born from the horrors of the Eliksni. A nightmare of the Saint.
Mithrax and Saint standing there after the cutscene like: ._. ._.
The house of light is different and deserves more chances to understand, that is a given
But let us not act like that without all these extrenuous events, a guardian taking a chance with him on Titan he may have never gotten this chance
Misraaks is an exception, the other houses want us dead, wanted us dead. As we are biased to agree with saints actions, he is biased to condemn them as we condemn the houses who came before his.
Everything Saint did was karmic retribution, morality had nothing to do with it. He was humanitys anger and desire for survival made manifest. An example, and even then they refused to stop.
They came seeking the traveller and refused peace first.
It is good we are breaking the cycle now, but it is important to understand that as much as Misraaks, a kell of great vision, is no more right than Saint. And no more wrong either.
That is why I actually like Aidos takes alot more, shes not underutilized. Just underratrd, a middle ground. She wants whats best for her people, but understands why humanity fears them.
We truly are more alike than any, us and the Eliksni of the House Of Light
Right, it's as if people forget that the Fallen specifically invaded the Earth chasing after the Traveller, and proceeded to try and genocide or aid in said genocide against the entire human race. Saint-14s actions were akin to self defence in a war that would have left every man, woman and child dead.
It's good that both sides are seeing this is pointless and thus should aid one another to guarantee both species' survival, but this wasn't a war started by humanity, it was just one that we were winning.
I wanted to see saint14 react, but in retrospect how can he react, he believes himself high and noble but yet was basically told that the eliksni not only fear him because of him being a guardian but also for what he has done, i want to see saint realize that he needs to atone for past sins and become what his namesake is a saint for all who serve the light, or have us in a cutscene remind him and the rest of the tower who really wears the pants in EVERY war since the we straight up invaded the black garden back in destiny 1
I'm not entirely sure what we are meant to get from this. Given the Eliksni are obviously a complex civilisation and given the obvious power difference between even a baby Guardian and most Fallen, are we really meant to be surprised that the Eliksni as a whole see Guardians as unstoppable killing machines? If I remember my D1 lore Sepiks Prime was considered a major threat to the City yet a team of 3 baby Guardians killed it relatively easy. Saint-14 was never a saint to the Fallen, he was and is a saint to the Humans (and possibly Awoken)
Getting serious Dawn of the Planet of the Apes vibes from these conflicts: Mithrax and the Guardian are desperately trying to make things work between 2 factions that would ordinarily be trying to destroy each other on sight, while Lakshmi stirs the pot and manipulates her side into violence like Koba.
And like that movie I can see a sad ending coming where either Mithrax buys it or House Light have to leave 😢
I’m trying to keep up with this season and will be playing more now that I’ve seen this and read your comment. If my boy Mithrax is harmed or House Light is given more shit for just breathing the same air, I’ll be ready to shoot some bitches. Lakshmi certainly grinding my gears at the moment. I think she is hoping things get worse so that she may claim a higher position of power.
You know, I thought I was mad at Uldren, then I forgave him as the Crow....the amount of hate I have for Uldren is minuscule in comparison to my hate for Lakshmi-2. She's a fear monger, fuelling the people's hate and fear, for some hidden agenda of her own.
It's for power. Literally, just to become dictator of the last city.
@@Flamme-Sanabi Pretty much. But the way I see it, her plan is failing. She has no one to replace Zavala and Ikora for her coup, and she has no guardian support. That's why she asked us to lead the city. She's desperate. Without replacements, she has no coup. Plus, everyone seems to be getting along with the Eliksni after the endless night disappeared.
I wonder what other races might have to say about our guardian… and the loot cave
Lakshmi… what are you doing? If Ikora or Zavala heard her words?
Oh, both Zavala and Ikora have heard her messages, but Zavala had told Ikora not to get involved in civilian politics. Good thing is that Ikora says she is going to have a conversation with Lakshmi.
@@hereticaldoctor7060 I hope Lakshmi listens, and Ikora at least steps in front of Mithrax to tell the FWC to stop.
I know they cannot be friends, but they can understand as leaders.
I love how Mithrax glosses over why Saint went after them. They literally tried wiping us out twice. That’s why he went after them. I gotta say, Bungie is trying too hard to make the Fallen seem like victims.
I don't think Bungie are trying to rewrite the Fallen as the good guys - rather, I think they're trying to reinforce that the Eliksni are supposed to be a narrative parallel to humanity. Think about it: if all source of electricity on earth just up and wandered off, I need you to look me in the eye and tell me our world leaders WOULDN'T wage war on whatever aliens "stole" it from us. I highly doubt Eliksni civilians and babies decided "Yeah, let's beat the shit out of humans". The people in power make the choices, and power very rarely grants kind or peaceful solutions.
The point is that the Battle of Six Fronts and Twilight Gap was traumatizing to both sides. You think Fallen don't have a drafting system? No, I'd believe their Kells turn to dregs and vandals and say, "Fight by my side to the death, or I'll shoot you in the face myself." It's not like humans haven't done this before to themselves under tyrannical leadership as well (see example: Warlords, before the Last City was made.)
I think Bungie is trying to emphasize that, TRULY, it ISN'T all Fallen that are hostile and aggressive. Just like humans, some of them are fucking shitty, but lots of us are kind. We just need to listen to each other. Mithrax, at least, seems to be open and willing to have peace. Whether the rest of his House actually agrees with that notion is a whole other can of worms.
Hey, Lasombra, you ever heard of the Iron Front?
Misraak's story wasn't intended to victimize the Fallen, it was to show the hypocrisy in Saint's statement of how "people can't live with their monsters," when House Light has to see their literal boogeyman each and everyday. Throughout the dialogue in override missions, Misraaks AGREES that the Fallen that attacked humanity deserve what they got, but he draws the line when innocent Eliksni are hurt or treated as Fallen.
@@J-manli when your entire race has a single relatively small place that is the only place the overwhelming majority of your people can survive due to a group trying to wipe you from the galaxy (and almost succeeding) several times, is it really all that surprising that people aren't too fond of sharing what limited space is available with members of that group?
Despite getting their civilization nearly wiped out by the Darkness, the fraction that remains is actually very very large, especially compared to how Humanity has also been reduced to a small fraction of its former population. Tell me, do you think that many soldiers can survive without any infrastructure and noncombatant support? Fallen also have civilians you know. Are civilians responsible for the sins of their military? If multiple countries of Humans from Earth were to colonize an Alien planet and countries that you did not belong to waged war on the local lifeforms, and those lifeforms in retaliation blew up your home country that had not participated, claiming that you did those things just because you are also Human, wouldn't you feel maybe a little bit indignant?
House of Light was specifically built out of civilian Eliksni who want to escape their houses of violence, the houses that followed raiding warlords simply because they won't be able to survive without a house. They are effectively a sovereign nation of refugees. The House of Light has very few soldiers, and those that they have are entirely unlikely to have been present fighting Humanity during Twilight's Gap or the SIVA Crisis prior to renouncing violence and joining the House of Light regardless as to how much or little faith you may have in Mithrax's claim that House Light has never raised arms against Humanity. Because if someone in the House of Light was a former Fallen Warlord, we would know. We are able to tell the difference between different Eliksni. We fight them, we spy on them, we KNOW who the Fallen Warlords and their councils are, and not just because they have nametags that pop up when we target them! Ha ha!
I like the part where he leaves out the fact that they attacked the city
Mithrax: Ok you know what.
I strongly believe that Savathun is spreading her influence to ALL the major characters in The Last City and The Tower. She’s hoping to turn us all against each other and destroy ourselves from the inside out.
I wonder if this is how the Covenant see Master Chief lol
Jesus! Now that’s a scary story!
Leaked Festival of the lost costume for saint?
thanks for spoiling this. cant believe you would spoil that lakshmi came back to life. would have been such a great thing to experience
I'm looking at one right now
Is this why the Sainted visage ornament was made?
Yes
Perhaps by the end of the season humanity and the Guardians will realize that they aren’t all that innocent and just compared to the Elksni they’ve killed.
I hate lakishimi
End of season event hopefully is just a single objective kill Lakshmi-2 and kill anyone against house light in the city. No Russian destiny mode
She getting a thorn to the dome I swear to God one way or the other
Wow and to think I was apart of fwc in d1 I think thorn needs to have a word fwc's leader
We are all victims of a war we did not want but fought just to survive.
@@Gutssssss666 I'm talking about everyone. Humanity, eliksni, the cabal. It shows even the enemy fear monsters.
Can't we just have our guardians freeze Lakshmi and make her mysteriously disappear. I mean really just use a stasis super or stasis grenade then go and dump her down some very deep hole on Europa that hopefully no one would be able to explore to ensure that she stays frozen before casually going about our business. Also when our guardians do it just make sure there isn't anyone around to see it as well as have a lookout just incase someone happens to show up nearby. If anyone asks the guardians could simply say they're going to see Variks or something believable
PS this is just my opinion but I never really liked nor trusted the future war cult and would rather have nothing to do with them
I think a better excuse would be “the Vex abducted her” or something with the Vex.
@@AngeMaru486 that actually is a better excuse but what about the few people in the last city who actually believe that exo's bs and might try to get the guardians to get her back 🤔
PS if a civilian tried to ask my guardian to save Lakshmi, she'll just say "I'll think about it" without any real intention of saving the exo
At least the story telling is getting better.
Poor Mithrax
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