I think Inside Out was fed even by Inside Herman's Head, a live action comedy show where the mind is shown as a penthouse populated by four people: Intelligence, Sensitivity, Anxiety and Lust.
Honestly Saberspark isn’t wrong from a historical point of view. Fear, Sympathy, Pride, Hate is what Hitler & Fascists feast off of in their speech and mannerisms.
I saw this one decades ago, had to be the 70s, maybe the early 80s. Strangely enough, what I recalled most was the "pigging out" sequence with the physique charts, uh, "filling out". But I honestly don't recall the "propaganda" scenes, basically nothing with the man listening to the radio onward. I'm beginning to think if the first part was used by itself, freed from its original context to drive home a different point, probably something related to "impulse control".
A flawed, but positive message, especially for the time. My biggest issue is with it's appeal to patriotism, and assertion of logical superiority. I mean, it's WWII Propaganda, so OBVIOUSLY it appeals to patriotism and the inferiority of the enemy, but still. There are a lot of far-right and facist ideologies that assert that "the enemy" is driven by emotion, compared to their "facts and logic". Even Hitler used this fallacy, mixing Logos, Ethos, and Pathos as he needed to grab and people's attention. There are a lot of people out there who will spend debates prodding at their opponent, trying to make them lose their cool, then using the emotional response as an excuse to claim moral victory. It's just as important to keep an eye out for those who manipulate the truth, just as much as those who manipulate emotion.
Yeah, the ending wasn't great, but it is true that fascism and far-right ideology are based solely on emotions, mainly insecurity and the demonization of what is considered outside the norm. After all, that is why cults and far-right groups find it easier to indoctrinate children and teens than adults: because their ability to reason is still very easy to warp.
I feel the ending message (besides patriotism) of the two sides of humanity as in the emotion and logic should be in harmony than one dowsed in too much of one side. The whole Hilter stuff was horrid emotion that masked itself into logic, because he knew how to get a person’s emotions to overpower the logical side of certain types of the populous. Even in the modern society both sides seek emotion (even tho one specifically says they are using logic) because emotion is the easier mechanism of a human’s existence, the echo of our childhood and possibly of our ancestors before us. A person with a harmonious sense of their two sides could see how foolish it is to rely on one over the other. A human is to have emotion as it holds tight to why we all are to some existent social creatures and why in logic we learn to exist make ourselves and that social unit for the better. Without one the other won’t succeed as a completely functional human being (of humans end up with various flavors neurally and so on, of course this doesn’t mean they are weak, but are on a different path for the emotion and logic to function)
Yeah was great til the end where they give emotion the job of fervent nationalism which is literally what leads to fascism. But for being in a wartime it's done really well
6:50 - This is a parody of news radio shows at the time, where especially smaller/local radio stations would rattle off headlines from war updates, station bulletins with new headlines coming through, and straight up from a stack of the day's newspapers from larger cities. So the fast-talking ventriloquist dummy is using the same kind of rapid radio newsman cadence!
there's a lot of good old theatrical shorts out on youtube. There's some very well-thought through shorts about why the nazis are bad in between simple "go punch hitler in the face" cartoons, but it's also interesting to watch the few cartoons that came out of the axis powers even. But also you gotta watch the Raggedy Ann movie from the 70s. There were some 40s shorts, but the 70s movie is amazingly weird
The whole scene with the guy turning on the radio is highly accurate to when I’m on social media and all I’m trying to do is find stuff that I enjoy than the worldly political stuff
@@mastermoye3915 ironically I actually hadn't seem that video at the time of writing that joke... wait thats not ironic thats just coincidental. (that one was intentional)
I'll admit, despite him literally being in the thumbnail, I totally forgot it was an anti-war short until the radio scene and forgot he shows up until his name was bluntly dropped 😂
Het WWII version of 'Inside and Out.' LMAO you gotta love the classics. Quickly enjoy, before it is locked away in the Disney vault along with 'The song of the South.'
I honestly have never seen the full episode, only bits and pieces. But this was a fun watch with your reactions. :D Also I did notice you had "Birds Like Us" up in the beginning. I hope that Let's Watch video will be released soon (or maybe a review?), I look forward to it.
@@TalpaTulpa Didn't realize that, hmm, I just thought that reason and emotion kinda feed each other when it comes to it. And I unfortunately met Hitler in my sleep, and I can say for a fact that he's one of the most unpleasant people I've met. He was incompetent people I've come to know, so much that I thought someone else was who competent enough to take charge of the war behind the scenes. P.S. I'm not making this up.
@@eninemire17 if you did manage to see Hitler in your sleep, he’s probably rapidly degraded after dying alone years ago. And he did die alone, the way the corpses in the room were described in testimonies implies that.
Fascist ideology has explicitly denounced rationalism as materialist and spiritless. Fascism according to it's own founders (Mussolini, Gentile, Goebbels) is anti rational in essence and most fascist movements never really had a clearly defined political programme
the media still does this. Im telling you, watch old cartoons, watch Johny Carson, NOTHING has changed . We have more of this or that but nothings changed. Have you ever seen "Make Mine Freedom" ?
Seeing you react to shorts I am thinking of a Goofy short. From the era when he played George. "No Smoking" is a fun anti smoke short. And another is a gamble addiction. As examples might be fun to watch.
No put in some of those antisemitic people like those Palestinian protestors or Islamic leaders who want to kill jews and Israel and its basically Hitler.
It was always weird to me, we have Hitler cartoons and even with musolini and Japanese country, but I never saw cartoons with Stalin, ruzvelt and cercil
I realize it was probably the reason why they picked this short, but it's going to be 80 years old on Aug 27. But ironically, 80 years later, Disney is in a legal battle with a fascist.
@@goteamslugs Yep. I think I should go back and edit the original post - I don't think it's because of the DeSantis part, just the fact that the 80th anniversary was coming up.
@@goteamslugs He's been getting state laws passed to expand state control over public/private life, notably in the educational system and with the LGBTQ+ community as the main victims. There's been the "Don't Say Gay" law, they're removing sexual health education, you're not allowed to teach or even RECOGNIZE/ACKNOWLEDGE non-binary gender identities or sexual orientations. If a student comes out to a teacher, guidance counselor, school nurse... that professional is expected to tell the parents. Kids usually would confide in these adults because of the understandable fear of how their parents would react. This could result in abuse, being kicked out of the house, or physical harm/murder. Now POC are also being targeted, notably the black community. He has made sure that the Board of Education minimizes the racist history of the USA, notably removing what happened to Ruby Bridges as well as now trying to claim that 'there were benefits to slavery, actually'. The Martha Vineyard incident in September 2022 (where he shipped out migrants to Texas on the false promise of better jobs and benefits) parallels an incident in the 1960s where black people in the South were lied to and sent to the North with similar promises. Unfortunately, this is also now leading to a rise in Nazis, racists, homophobes, etc. now feeling empowered to show themselves in public, continuing from the Donald Trump era. And this is also spreading across the country. Hate crimes are on the rise in the USA, and even people who aren't part of the communities but support them - such as Lauri Carleton - are being targeted. When Disney and DeSantis began their legal battle, you need look no further than the protestors on DeSantis's side standing outside the park to get an idea of the kind of people that support him.
Clearly, you don't even know what a fascist is. Trump is a populist, not a fascist. For examples of fascists, pick any progressive liberal democrat instead. You should really understand a word before you try to use it. It'll keep you from sounding like a feckless moron.
Try an Islamic leaders who basically want to destroy Israel and have hated Jews for years or Palestine protestors and there you have Hitler since their both antisemitic.
Some trivia, IIRC: the female version of Emotion was referenced as a great example of animation, especially appeal, in The Illusion of Life, I think.
Yep, I remember seeing that too! They did an entire play by play of her key poses fidgeting on the chair. She was really cute with a fun design.
You gotta be real, the art style for Hitler is creative lmao.
Hitler was probably one of the first villains in Disney cartoons.
Unfortunately, he was real.
Walt loves his Fuehrer XD
@@beauwalker9820reoccurring villains at least. Russian Rhapsody at WB was probably his biggest “role”.
Things got too real when Reason and Emotion got into it over what to eat.
So this was the prequel to Inside Out.
More or less. LMAO!
Actually there was another that featured Reason and Emotion. Disney on the Dangers of Alcohol
I think Inside Out was fed even by Inside Herman's Head, a live action comedy show where the mind is shown as a penthouse populated by four people: Intelligence, Sensitivity, Anxiety and Lust.
Actually, Pete Docter has stated that this was the direct inspiration for Inside Out.
Emotions are fun to have, but if they get out of control and out of reason. You will be forever blinded of what is true and what is false.
Honestly Saberspark isn’t wrong from a historical point of view.
Fear, Sympathy, Pride, Hate is what Hitler & Fascists feast off of in their speech and mannerisms.
Even to this day, sadly, recent events literally outside Disney World being an example 😔
@@autumbreeze1129
“Neo-Nazi groups protest outside of Disney World” Yikes 😬
I didn’t know this until you brought it up….. Sad sad world we live in.
Not just fascist but communist too basically anyone who is opposed to free western values
I love this short a lot. It's got a good message, one I feel like has been either diluted down or just forgotten in this day and age.
I saw this one decades ago, had to be the 70s, maybe the early 80s. Strangely enough, what I recalled most was the "pigging out" sequence with the physique charts, uh, "filling out". But I honestly don't recall the "propaganda" scenes, basically nothing with the man listening to the radio onward. I'm beginning to think if the first part was used by itself, freed from its original context to drive home a different point, probably something related to "impulse control".
A flawed, but positive message, especially for the time.
My biggest issue is with it's appeal to patriotism, and assertion of logical superiority. I mean, it's WWII Propaganda, so OBVIOUSLY it appeals to patriotism and the inferiority of the enemy, but still. There are a lot of far-right and facist ideologies that assert that "the enemy" is driven by emotion, compared to their "facts and logic". Even Hitler used this fallacy, mixing Logos, Ethos, and Pathos as he needed to grab and people's attention.
There are a lot of people out there who will spend debates prodding at their opponent, trying to make them lose their cool, then using the emotional response as an excuse to claim moral victory. It's just as important to keep an eye out for those who manipulate the truth, just as much as those who manipulate emotion.
Very well said.
Yeah it was really good until it basically committed the same sin Hitler did (in retrospect, for a good reason, but still)
Yeah, the ending wasn't great, but it is true that fascism and far-right ideology are based solely on emotions, mainly insecurity and the demonization of what is considered outside the norm. After all, that is why cults and far-right groups find it easier to indoctrinate children and teens than adults: because their ability to reason is still very easy to warp.
I feel the ending message (besides patriotism) of the two sides of humanity as in the emotion and logic should be in harmony than one dowsed in too much of one side. The whole Hilter stuff was horrid emotion that masked itself into logic, because he knew how to get a person’s emotions to overpower the logical side of certain types of the populous. Even in the modern society both sides seek emotion (even tho one specifically says they are using logic) because emotion is the easier mechanism of a human’s existence, the echo of our childhood and possibly of our ancestors before us. A person with a harmonious sense of their two sides could see how foolish it is to rely on one over the other. A human is to have emotion as it holds tight to why we all are to some existent social creatures and why in logic we learn to exist make ourselves and that social unit for the better. Without one the other won’t succeed as a completely functional human being (of humans end up with various flavors neurally and so on, of course this doesn’t mean they are weak, but are on a different path for the emotion and logic to function)
Yeah was great til the end where they give emotion the job of fervent nationalism which is literally what leads to fascism. But for being in a wartime it's done really well
i love it:
Man: "WORLD POLITIC!"
Woman: "DON'T FORGET OUR DIET!"
I mean back then in the military then women were only nurses or spies at best. Most of the military was & I still think is male predominant.
@@lagopusvulpuz1571 it was a product of his Time indeed
Considering when this was made, I'm kinda glad it went the war propaganda route LOL I expected much worse, especially when the woman showed up.
No time to waste on women when there's a war soldier. Gotta remember what we're fighting for.
Ah yes, classic Disney WWII propaganda.
😎
(Actually, I’ll bet this inspired Osmosis Jones and Inside Out!)
6:19
This part in particular is more relevant than ever!
😰
…unfortunately.
I guess the predecessor for doom-scrolling was doom-tuning.
Hi! I still cant believe Disney made movies like these back then.
There's a lot of stuff made by various animation studios during WW2 that would surprise you.
I know right? So sad to see what Disney's become . .
Yeah there addressing an actual problem here.
As much as I love Der Fuehrer’s Face, this was a much better short that explains what not to do during Natzi time
6:50 - This is a parody of news radio shows at the time, where especially smaller/local radio stations would rattle off headlines from war updates, station bulletins with new headlines coming through, and straight up from a stack of the day's newspapers from larger cities. So the fast-talking ventriloquist dummy is using the same kind of rapid radio newsman cadence!
Personally I think this is WAY better than Inside Out.
The duality of women seems to be Marian the librarian, and uh is that miss Piggy? Fair, that’s probably fair. 😭😭😭
Pete Docter has stated that this was the direct inspiration for Inside Out.
Where was that baby's mother? He broke everything and she didn't come running at the first crash?
True. They sacrificed some ideal realisticness to get the point across.
there's a lot of good old theatrical shorts out on youtube. There's some very well-thought through shorts about why the nazis are bad in between simple "go punch hitler in the face" cartoons, but it's also interesting to watch the few cartoons that came out of the axis powers even.
But also you gotta watch the Raggedy Ann movie from the 70s. There were some 40s shorts, but the 70s movie is amazingly weird
Yep.
It’s funny how some (keyword being “some”) of the deeper messages are surprisingly relevant still today!
😅
[Something Something Trump]
You know this hits perfect during covid The part when the guy was listening to the news That's the same reaction when COVID happened 7:41
SHREK: Here's my things of emotions and reason.
(fist) Here's emotion. (another fist) Here's reason.
LMAO! GREAT VID!
The whole scene with the guy turning on the radio is highly accurate to when I’m on social media and all I’m trying to do is find stuff that I enjoy than the worldly political stuff
Wait till you see 'Reason and Emotion 2; THEY HIT THE F**KIN PENTAGON!'
Oneyplays Reference!
@@mastermoye3915 ironically I actually hadn't seem that video at the time of writing that joke... wait thats not ironic thats just coincidental.
(that one was intentional)
I'll admit, despite him literally being in the thumbnail, I totally forgot it was an anti-war short until the radio scene and forgot he shows up until his name was bluntly dropped 😂
Het WWII version of 'Inside and Out.' LMAO you gotta love the classics. Quickly enjoy, before it is locked away in the Disney vault along with 'The song of the South.'
I honestly have never seen the full episode, only bits and pieces. But this was a fun watch with your reactions. :D Also I did notice you had "Birds Like Us" up in the beginning. I hope that Let's Watch video will be released soon (or maybe a review?), I look forward to it.
This is surprisingly good.
How funny I just happened to see that same video of Reason and Emotion last week! Came across it totally by chance too.
Me too. Though I saw the thumbnail a while ago, I never watched it until recently.
Laughing at the baby falling down the stairs is infectiously hilarious
I've been thinking, I don't think emotion alone was what Hitler was using, I've thought that he used reason too.
They want to paint reason as something that is morally good
@@TalpaTulpa Didn't realize that, hmm, I just thought that reason and emotion kinda feed each other when it comes to it.
And I unfortunately met Hitler in my sleep, and I can say for a fact that he's one of the most unpleasant people I've met. He was incompetent people I've come to know, so much that I thought someone else was who competent enough to take charge of the war behind the scenes. P.S. I'm not making this up.
@@eninemire17 if you did manage to see Hitler in your sleep, he’s probably rapidly degraded after dying alone years ago. And he did die alone, the way the corpses in the room were described in testimonies implies that.
Fascist ideology has explicitly denounced rationalism as materialist and spiritless. Fascism according to it's own founders (Mussolini, Gentile, Goebbels) is anti rational in essence and most fascist movements never really had a clearly defined political programme
He got some of his ideas from being allies with Iran and from the Muslim religion which is what lead to the Holocaust.
A lot of research into public speaking and the psychological affects of it! Color me impressed for something so dated!
I know right?
the media still does this. Im telling you, watch old cartoons, watch Johny Carson, NOTHING has changed . We have more of this or that but nothings changed.
Have you ever seen "Make Mine Freedom" ?
Ugh, I fucking hate that one. It's basically propaganda funded by the GM corporation.
8:48 yeah the superman looks like Bobby Hill
I like how they gave hitler jagged monster teeth
I was surprised they weren't sexist. Like having emotion being the one in control
4:30
Omg is that Nimona???
Now, watch Der Fuehrer's Face. It's... lovely. 😅
Literally Inside Out.
Oh that short was interesting it makes you think
Insert joke about Steven universe's "battle of the heart and mind" here:
That's fine, that's great... For Hitler.
My new favorite quote.
Hitler is basically identity politics 🙄 in a nutshell.
It’s Danny DeVito and a male Pearl. 😂😂😂
That’s some duality of man. 🤣🤣🤣
Emotion also sounds like Brad Dourif, aka Chucky. Also makes perfect sense
You should've seen the UNCUT original version where all the German soldiers are MARCHING TO THEIR DOOM!
Seeing you react to shorts I am thinking of a Goofy short. From the era when he played George. "No Smoking" is a fun anti smoke short.
And another is a gamble addiction. As examples might be fun to watch.
Let's Watch - Felidae when?
Might take some time to censor it to be able to upload it and not youtube come down with the banhammer
@@lanky2610 kinda messed up how that works since the movie is uploaded in full on youtube already
This was Inside Out before it existed
Can you do a Qubo Shows Tier List please?
It was....kinda good tho
6:24-7:42
Doctor: Hello Mr. Dokes how are we....ooooo....they must've invented the internet.
Inside out before inside out
It's still relevant. Just take out Hitler and put in Trump or DeSantis.
HEY, that was my suggestion I was about to say. And I approved your ideas. LOL!
Yup. And the radio be replaced by FoxNews, dudebro podcasts and other online conspiracy theorists.
What about Biden and The View? The pendulum goes both ways
No put in some of those antisemitic people like those Palestinian protestors or Islamic leaders who want to kill jews and Israel and its basically Hitler.
Basically 1940s version of Inside Out.
It was always weird to me, we have Hitler cartoons and even with musolini and Japanese country, but I never saw cartoons with Stalin, ruzvelt and cercil
Hell yes inside our befere inside our
3:47 intrusive thoughts
Literally
5:02 this segment is predate deviantart 💀
Being this early is so weird
Godwin's Law, people.
inside out in 40's !
Prroto-insideout?
woo i'm like number 669 xD
Damn zoomers
There's reason and emotion but I think we're forgetting about the third guy and that's logic the cold calculating one
brother that’s what reason is
@@pinkdoesstuff
So its: 🔴⚖️🔵
Emotion = Primal Instincts🔥
Reason = Methodical Logic🧊
This video is unwatchable with this audio problem.
gibberish?
I realize it was probably the reason why they picked this short, but it's going to be 80 years old on Aug 27.
But ironically, 80 years later, Disney is in a legal battle with a fascist.
Are you talking about DeSantis?
@@goteamslugs Yep. I think I should go back and edit the original post - I don't think it's because of the DeSantis part, just the fact that the 80th anniversary was coming up.
@@yourpalal4596 Oh. How is he fascist?
@@goteamslugs He's been getting state laws passed to expand state control over public/private life, notably in the educational system and with the LGBTQ+ community as the main victims.
There's been the "Don't Say Gay" law, they're removing sexual health education, you're not allowed to teach or even RECOGNIZE/ACKNOWLEDGE non-binary gender identities or sexual orientations. If a student comes out to a teacher, guidance counselor, school nurse... that professional is expected to tell the parents. Kids usually would confide in these adults because of the understandable fear of how their parents would react. This could result in abuse, being kicked out of the house, or physical harm/murder.
Now POC are also being targeted, notably the black community. He has made sure that the Board of Education minimizes the racist history of the USA, notably removing what happened to Ruby Bridges as well as now trying to claim that 'there were benefits to slavery, actually'.
The Martha Vineyard incident in September 2022 (where he shipped out migrants to Texas on the false promise of better jobs and benefits) parallels an incident in the 1960s where black people in the South were lied to and sent to the North with similar promises.
Unfortunately, this is also now leading to a rise in Nazis, racists, homophobes, etc. now feeling empowered to show themselves in public, continuing from the Donald Trump era. And this is also spreading across the country. Hate crimes are on the rise in the USA, and even people who aren't part of the communities but support them - such as Lauri Carleton - are being targeted.
When Disney and DeSantis began their legal battle, you need look no further than the protestors on DeSantis's side standing outside the park to get an idea of the kind of people that support him.
Replace H#tler with Trump. I had to say it
Clearly, you don't even know what a fascist is. Trump is a populist, not a fascist. For examples of fascists, pick any progressive liberal democrat instead.
You should really understand a word before you try to use it. It'll keep you from sounding like a feckless moron.
Try someone who hates Israel and jews, like the Palestinian protestors or Islamic leaders and you basically got Hitler.
Couah, cough, TRUMP cough, cough
Try an Islamic leaders who basically want to destroy Israel and have hated Jews for years or Palestine protestors and there you have Hitler since their both antisemitic.