FULLY INVOLVED STRUCTURE FIRE Lakewood New Jersey 5/2/24
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
- Ocean County - Lakewood - Working Structure Fire - Fully Involved - 402 Picardy Ct.
Just around 3:15 PM Lakewood Police dispatched a reported working structure fire in Leisure Village in off Route 70. The first due officer and engine on scene reported heavy fire middle of the row-unit. Shortly after they laid in sum 400ft and stretched a 1.3/4 line for interior attack on the advanced fire. Shortly after Chief One pilled everyone out due to the heavy fire conditions above and rapidly spreading due to the heavy fire load and wind. Defensive mode was used and Ladder Five started flowing the ladder pipe and quickly knocking down the fire that had extended to all of the units. Units from Toms River, Brick Township, and Jackson Township all responded to this fire and or covered the town. The cause of the fire is unknown at this time. No one was reported inside or injured either.
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I fully respect the police and support them! I just think these encounters are funny they sometimes get a bit heated when it doesn’t have to be, don’t get me wrong I moved exactly when he told me to and did everything he said, I’ve got no issue just be respectful no need to threaten arrest over me working. When he was aware of what I was doing. Thanks yall for the support!
You did nothing wrong. I support our police too but it has to be said.That cop was being an asshole for no reason.
On the other hand, someday your mouth will be eating dirt while chrome bracelets are going on your wrists. Your mouth is moving faster than your brain. You have no business being on an active fireground regardless of your ego.
@@rdbimages ^^^^^ found the youtube hardo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Any word on the cause? I live in Leisure Village and it seems there are quite a lot of fires in this development. Old structures, old wiring, senior residents etc. It sucks when you share a building with other people and just hope none of them have an incident because it destroys the entire building. You may have missed the one we had on Nov. 12th, around 2am on Dorchester. Partially destroyed building very close to me!
His job is to secure the scene, you have a right to film, but doesn't say from where or how close, therefore the police officer was doing his job!
Firefighters in our area appreciate video taken of their work to help critique their tactics.
Glad that everyone was able to get out in time and that there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident.
You can hear the wind faning the flames.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Man, that was ripping when you got there. Plus the wind fanning it....oh my, I feel for the residents.
Hearing the ice cream truck getting on scene. 😂
Yeah, not the time ice cream man
@@RSGCProductionsit will be when they get through!!
He has all the right to film,as long as he doesn't get in the way of fire personnel, or in dangers himself
I am a Firefighter and I respect my fellow police brothers but that was a little excessive on The PD you were a good distance from the house and you wouldn’t have been a problem on my fire scene keep doing what you do bud
Wow, you're a firefighter?
As a firefighter I am so thankful when PD shows up. Respect what he is asking and do it, don't argue and claim your rights. There are actual people attacking that fire internally and externally. There is no telling what your presents will cause whether you are 20ft away or 100ft.
My presence will not affect operations at all… I do respect cops on the daily as my friends are some, I’ve also showed this video to them and they said this cop was most likely new on the job and fired up, treating me this way is no way to gain respect either just remember that.
You got to be joking. 😂 From where he was standing he wasn’t interfering with firefighting operations with so ever. He needs to be worried about traffic control and keep people from running over the hoses.
1- the reason the ladder wasn't in operation right away is because they did not have a water supply for it. They were already using their water supply for the hand line.
2- The rule with the police is that it's only considered "safe" when the scene is complete out of sight
Trying to use a hand line on that is the first problem...
@@ffjsbso are they supposed to wait for the ladder to arrive before they start spraying water?
@@Fire84569 Guess you didn't see that the ladder is already there with the stick up. You don't know much about fighting fire do you??
@@ffjsb yeah I’m pretty new to this. I’m a probationer CZcams firefighter. But I haven’t seen a department start firefighting operations with an elevated stream. We pull hand lines until the aerial is in place and ready to flow water. I’m just guessing an engine arrived on scene first then the ladder, even if the ladder arrived first we still pull hand lines, while the operator positioning the ladder.
@@Fire84569 You don't pull a small hand line on a FULLY involved structure, EVER. It's like pissing on a big bonfire. Go big or go home.
Woh, from your angle, that place was pretty much gone before they got there! I chuckled when I heard them say smoke visible, no flames
visible. The flames from your
vantage point were higher than
the roof!
Glad to finally see a fire company not try to use a hand line on a fully involved structure fire.
Evidently they DID.
By the way, good job Lakewood F.D.
So sad! Total loss! Hope everyone safe
If Lakewood wants to function as an independent, paid municipal department they need to hire a lot more guys. 3 engines and 2 ladder trucks with skeleton staffing covering the whole township ain't cuttin' it...even as an initial response prior to mutual aid from the surrounding Ocean and Monmouth County companies. Their area is chock full of retirement communities, nursing homes, old commercial, new residential, and a whole lot of off-the-books addresses being turned into schools and dormitories.
Good job with a bad scenario on this one; I don't think Leisure Village was built with fire safety in mind back in the day.
Its insane what they accomplish with only having a career 1&1. Over 3k runs a piece of both too last year with no EMS. They run the wheels off
@@joe_mosc Insane being the key word...
NJ as a whole is screwed up...
@@joe_mosc Back in the 70s, when I was little, Lakewood had 4 strong volunteer companies with one paid guy that rode around in a mini pumper handling alarms, small brush fires, and whatever else didn't need a general alarm from the whole township. I grew up in Pt. Pleasant, 2 towns away. My uncle was a member of, I think, Co. 3. I forget their name. I don't think they have any volunteers anymore.
IMHO, "what they accomplish" is a polite way of saying "they're damn lucky they haven't killed anybody yet." If they have a mayday or have somebody go down early on in a fire they're screwed.The rapid intervention/FAST team is always coming from another town. Listening to the audio for a bunch of their fires, I don't think they even establish their "2-out."
The guys they have are good at what they do; there just isn't enough of them.
You were lucky to get that close, in the UK the cops would back you up so far, you wouldn't even see the smoke.
Same in Australia
Fire a town over I stopped at walked down the street right to the fire building, cops didnt even bat an eye
Cop was totally in the wrong, you werent anywhere that could possibly been considered as dangerous or obstructing.
You’re totally wrong. Are you a cop? A firefighter? That building was a total loss, which means the other responding units were going to work on the surrounding buildings to save them from the spreading fire. That cop was totally in the right.
Listen I moved when he told me, after he kept telling me to move just to mess with me then threaten to arrest me. That’s just ridiculous.
Their cop had every right to ask you to move back when are you going to learn your lesson and just stay back@@jerseyshorefireresponse
@alexkitner5356, you are wrong sir. And if you had listened to your mother years ago and not gone swimming with pruned fingers, you would still be alive today.
@@mattiverson4654 yes he did and that’s why I moved exactly when he told me the problem isn’t that. It’s the fact that he threatened to arrest me for obstruction when I clearly wasn’t obstructing any operations or hindering firefighter operations in any extent, and the fact that he wouldn’t leave me alone almost caused injury to others people because he couldn’t properly secure the fire scene
Did it extend to the Delta exposure?
I thought I smelled something burning this afternoon! Whoa!
Same I was on the way to golf
These were my neighbors. They both got out with their dog and only the clothes on their back! It's tragic...I was right there the man filming was in the right and did wrong! These homes are so ola and have no fire walls! I jave a neighbor who is 90 all shehas to do is leave a pan on the stove and "Poof" all our homes in my row will burn to the ground!!! It's not safe here!!
Ice cream truck in background is a bonus! He prolly sold out for all the people watching !!
I would like to say amazing video have you thought about getting a gimble for your camera
Yea, I’m in the middle of making a switch from cameras this ones big and heavy why it gets shakes.
Good video!👍
Great video
Now I understand why they call that Lakewood frie going crazy 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Oh my..... it's in the Original Leisure Village which is considered historical.
As a former fighter fighter, I am going to make a camera and monitor for the guys working the ladder at the bottom. So they can see what is going on. I personally never seen on on a fire truck other then maybe an ARFF truck. Not saying he/she did anything wrong. I am up in the air about smooth bore nozzles. I think an adjustable nozzle might have been a better option. And sure I will take feed back on the last comment.
No they make them . They even have thermal cameras on the tip . If you got the money they will make it for you . They have ladders that you can fully operate with basically an IPAD . Including the pump .
I am watching from Elmira NY a lot of heavy fire
Police only doing their jobs don’t take it personal love your videos even though they scare the hell out of me 😮
Over reach; especially for videographers. No obstruction to the fire fighters, not really even threat to personal safety.
The police department is a joke they are more worried about being filmed
does that cop has nomex skin ?
BS
The cop was entirely out of line
Anyone know what caused this fire? My grandmother use to live in there back in the 1970's
I'm really not being critical of the firefighters because that residence was gone when they arrived, but I do have a question regarding the lack of water supply. As a former firefighter in a township with very few hydrants, we learned to draft from wherever we could find water. The first few shots of the neighborhood showed a big lake in the middle of everything, hence the name. Why not draft from it, that's kind of what the hard suction is for. If there is such a water shortage in that community, put a few dry hydrants along the lake.
I've got the impression from these videos that Lakewood is mainly composed of wooden shanties.
Officer had a ego trip he wanted everyone to know he was in charge ! He needs more training on how to deescalate and not escalate a situation Go back to Human Resources and take a eight hour class and he needs a reprimand note in his employee file! SMH
That cop is a total dh tool
I would posit that some CZcamsrs need that same training.
Yes, if you had followed what the officer was telling you, he wouldn’t have been rude.
He’s a public servant and SHOULD be professional and polite to EVERYONE no matter what the circumstances might be and he differently was not .
I wonder what caused this fire.
Often wonder why they shoot a stream of water instead of a wider spread. Seems to me a wider spread could cover more area to knock down the flames. Just a thought.
A few reasons, depending on the situation. Main reason is a wider stream doesn't have as far of a reach. Straight stream goes a lot further and has more power. In a defensive operation like this, a straight stream can actually be used to punch holes in the roof to get at more of the fire.
Wider streams also generate a lot of air flow. In this situation, not much of a concern. In an interior operation, the airflow from a fog stream disrupts the thermal balance and flow path in undesirable ways. It creates enough air flow that you can ventilate the smoke out of a room by spraying a wide fog pattern out the window; the airflow draw the smoke right out.
@@fullmetal2405 Add to that less focused stream wil evaporate before the water has a chance to follow through the fire and cool down the fuel that is burning ^^
So sad
Sorry I’m not a police officer but a firefighter. He was a little brash but if he is the only patrolman on the seen at the moment he has a 500ft radius to make safe. There is a shit load of things going on at once and individuals are pumped full of adrenaline. Firefighters are consumed with the task at hand and aren’t focused on the on lookers. Just my thoughts.
He has no authority simple as that he can go play in traffic and fuck off, it’s first add amendment activity and constitutional protected.
Ya totally agree but I explained who I was and what I was doing, while I was moving. He wanted me to actually run in the other direction, after he told me to move back I did then he came up 3 times telling me to move more to the point where I couldn’t see the house. I get it but what I can’t accept is him trying to make a point with me almost got others hurt because he wasn’t paying attention
In my judgement the guy filming was probably 300 ft away by the lake where no ops were taking place. Its splitting hairs for at exact 500ft distance to be required. Some common sense needs to be applied. Was the person in danger from the fire? Was the person in the way of fire fighters or close to their equipment? Those are the issues that matter.
@@minerran The way I see it, if the cop had let the photo guy get closer, then everyone else would want to get closer, then he would want to get closer and before you know it it's bedlam and everyone is in everyone else's way.
Nothing to see here.....LOL.
Wow that house went up so fast
The wind had to have played a role in that. Fanned the flames big time
ULs 217 8th edition standard for smoke alarms exceeds in performance vs what's currently being sold in most stores today.
Dang, boss. I knew we forgot something...the fire walls! No problem, code enforcement got their donation last week.
What police department is this?
Lakewood NJ. He’s posted other videos and most of the officers are douchebag power trippers.
Lakewood
File a complaint!!!
Their neighbors were glad the wind was on their side
That was a vicious fire
Our department would it with 3000 pounds of blue dry chemical. Then open up the foam cannon.
Ok
So, no attic isolation?
What are you talking about?
@Cairns-880 more modern construction would extend the firewall between units all the way to the roof. Thus preventing the middle unit from quickly involving the adjoined occupancies.
Based on the fire venting out the end gables, I am guessing no partitioning.
Always sad to see someone's home burn down...
hellsyes! nice job with the pipe!!! great call.
Do as you’re told, and obey a lawful order. The cop’s job to keep people safe, is a hell of a lot more important, than a CZcamsr getting video for likes and subscribers.
Well no, that is not their job.
Their job is to enforce laws, and the OP was violating no law.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's gone when you got there.
For the idiots giving the cop shit: the first interaction that officer had with that civilian was edited out. He was being as nice as physically possible. It wasn’t until the cameraman continued to push that the officer, still respectfully, told him to move and even explained to him why. You people have zero idea what you’re talking about. It is his job and obligation to keep that area clear so the firefighters can do their job. Try to think outside the box. It’s not just the one house that’s currently burning, it’s the houses next to it that are at very high risk as well. So the perimeter needs to reflect that expansion of work. I know this because I’m a firefighter. Not to mention that wind was very strong. That could have spread the fire even more and made things go from bad to worse. Don’t comment stupid shit if you’ve never worked a structure fire.
The first time he asked me to move. I started moving. He didn’t like the way I was moving. How many fire scenes have I been on I know where I am and what I’m doing, he was to worried about making me back up far enough to not be able to see the house, he almost let two older people walk back into their burning home.. his job is to make sure everyone safe. He knew that I was safe and he knew what I was doing because he told me I know what you’re doing but. So that tells me he wasted more time then he needed to with me which resulted in him not being able to do his job and protect the citizens.
Stop lying
@@Cairns-880 hahaha ok. It’s literally on video champ.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse
I did not quote you, but rather the Clem guy who is giving you crap about editing stuff out. I’m fast approaching 20 years as a firefighter and do not have the slightest problem with what you were doing. You were not interfering in the slightest and the cop was acting way out of line.
was lil time before water got on it..but was too far gone...did not see any hand lines at all...
I live in Utah and i help my friend out who works for local media here and there are times i go to fire scenes to get pics/ videos for him to use and if there isn't any tape up i go as far as i can on the opposite side of the fire scene so I'm not in the way of the hose or other things. And i come across cops that are rude so i outsmart them and go around the block to get better pics and video where there isn't any cops lol.
4.03 a fire-fighter call for a Medic I've got one..hope they survived ok...and on first arrival you can clearly hear dog barking I hope they weren't in that house ...the Cop was overzealous, you weren't endangering yourself and you have the right to record...very quick fire
At this point you're better off protecting the exposures.
Thank goodness the cops showed up
Pray there weren't any pets inside.
I watched it go, it was my friend's house. lost everything
Please accept my condolences to your friend and their family for losing all their possessions and home.
So sorry for your friends.
So heart-breaking, I know what they're going through
So sorry for your friends loss.
“They made a pretty good knock.” WTF
A fire engine should have water like in the big cities like Chicago and New York
All fire engines do care water that's a ladder truck they don't carry water
And the latest score is : Fire 1-Fire Department 0, News at 10.
Rude officer
He's far enough back that he is not interfering with anyone or is a safety hazard. Cop needs to chill out and take the stick out of his ass.
I thought the Fire Chief had control of the scene. And why was he being so rude towards you. I guess he wasn't having a good day....
Cop was standing there with his thumb up his ass as usual so he decided to start bullying people who were nowhere near the fire.
@@MontcoBucksIncidentPageMBIP it was a fire scene and the officers were there to block the road and to direct traffic and he wasn’t being rude when a fire broke out the police have to respond and be on scene
@@KevinLyons-gn7eu No really you don't say. Thank You sorry my firefighter brain is a bit rusty 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guys videos are okay, but he makes himself a pain in the ass and gets in the way. Arguing with the police isnt cool either. He was doing his job.
At what point was he in the way of anyone besides the cops ego?
Your upwind you know where to stand
Not many notice
The wind was bad, this one got bad fast and I’m assuming it was reported very late? Is it rural? I’m wondering why it was so involved before FD was on-site, there was nothing much they could do about saving the house, but kudos for controlling it . Godspeed FD.
Wisconsin has a Law, That you must stay at these 400 feet from an active fire emergency scene. Great Videos!!!!! F+L, Corey
Another Great video!!
Sorry you were hassled!!!
Looks like it started in the back... maybe outside and spread to the roof???
Thanks !!!!!
It took a while before they got water in the fire and the ladder up
They were inside
Waarom weer alleen van hout gebouwd….maak het frame van beton En bouw dan verder….maar dat zal wel weer te duur zijn..
That beginning no flames showing he must have been blind
Dude as much as we appreciate your videos. That was un called for. Listen to the cop and get back.
Did anyone thank LEO for his service?
Me
Is this volunteer
Combo
It's a shame people can't follow the officer command and want to video someone's house burning
🤣🤣🤣
Piss poor firefighting effort, one truck with extension ladder is all they used.
Got it out before it jumped to another house. Win.
just remember one thing regarding police officers, they are police most of them because they couldn't pass the fire exam
You said it not me
There is an entire Lake of water in the back yard. Deploy a intake line with a sump filter and use your pumper truck.
Or the hydrant in the front yard works too
Other than San Francisco it seems that if there are hydrants the department would rather deploy five hundred feet of hose than draft from water at the scene.
Could suply the deck gun
TurboDraft!!!!
Nice work with the elevated master stream! I wish we could’ve seen the other side, but I certainly wouldn’t want you getting arrested! 😆
Great video in spite of the cop.
Haha yeah, didn’t wanna push my luck and get throw out so stayed there till I had enough and walked to the other side.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse ha ha, he was a big over aggressive, I though. But he doesn’t seem to know you, that you know how to video and stay out of the way and remain safe. Keep up the nice work up there!
Dude, the cop is right, if the wind shifts your ass would have been in trouble. Get a better camera that can zoom, you should not be anywhere near that.
I’ve been to enough fire scenes to no what’s to close. I’m very aware of the wind this day and it was steady. Also I had no issue moving back, he just kept moving me back till he knew I had no shot of the house. When filming a video for training you need to see what’s actually happening and sometimes zoomed in from far away doesn’t show the same stuff. I’m also cool with the chief and many ffs here they all know what I’m doing.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Are you affiliated with any department? Or, do you just video peoples lives being destroyed?
@@thejudge3132 yes I do content for many departments in the area…
@@thejudge3132 this has to do with fire operations only not peoples lives.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse lol, ok.
Ice cream truck?
Your videos would be much better if you would not talk in them if you’re gonna play the Dispatch
at 1:36 no visible flames, ok then.
Was there a dog in there? I heard a dog barking
Took him way too long to get water on it. What are they doing? Standing around?
The house was a total loss before they got on the scene what is the point in rushing around and have someone get hurt
Agreed!
@@jwfusco1958 because there are OTHER houses threatened.
You're only seeing the rear of the building. They had some handlines in service while a water supply was being established.
Not a crime scene, the copper needs to chill out.
That home is a total loss
Buy smoke alarm
Looking at the comments about the officer and wondering if anyone put any thought into why he was moving him back. The person putting water on the dwelling with the aerial stream is concentrating on where to place the water and doesn't need to worry about if some lookylou is standing in the area where the stream might fall. The officer was looking out for this young man's well-being. At first glance it seemed as if the officer was being a little heavy handed, but he had to expedite his removal from harms way. If our young photographer was hit with that water stream, he would be wishing that officer moved him back. I've been on both sides of the water stream, so I have first hand experience of the concerns.
Yes I’m very aware of FF operations & where I need to stand to be safe out of a collapse zone or heat zone. Also have a radio to hear exactly everything the fire fighters are doing, I knew the master stream was going to be working soon. The cop actually has no clue as they don’t listen to fire band. He was doing his job but coulda been a little understanding with me to what I was doing and focus on the scene safety but he wanted to really make a point and they almost got two people really hurt.
lol, settle down, this guy was clearly out of the way and no hinderance to the operations.
Do you need the government to wipe your behind as well?
@@Cairns-880 , and you would be the first one to sue if you got hit by the stream from that stick. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about.
@@Incindio13, and you know for certain if that stream is going to hit him or not. What if that stream dislodges a piece from that dwelling and kicks it in his direction. Like I said to that other douche, STFU if you don't know what you're talking about.
That cop was a duesh
You doing your "job" is not a bigger priority than the officer doing his. If he says you're too close, then you're too close. It doesn't matter what you think. Don't be a prick and argue with him. The only reason your encounters with police get heated is because you don't listen to them. I was going to subscribe to your channel, but now I'm not so sure. You need to bump up your respect for law enforcement at these incidents.
How would he know what’s to close? Is he a fireman no he’s a cop he most likely had no clue what was going on that’s why he acted the way he did. The amount of interactions I have daily with police officers are majority of the time perfectly cordial and respect in both ways, but unfortunately, I don’t film those because I have no no need to and I’m not always rolling the camera as some think. When cops start to get mouthy and put their hands on me, I start filming.
Another cop that didn't score high on the fire fighter test 😅😅😅
RELEASE THE WHOLE VIDEO WHERE THE COP WAS PERFECTLY NICE AND PLEASANT TO YOU!! NOT JUST THE CLIP WHERE HE JUSTIFIABLY LOSES HIS PATIENCE WITH YOU!!!
This is what I have recorded why are you yelling , video clearly shows me moving backwards he says “turn around run” and no I wasn’t going to do that. Why are you yelling you kinda sound like him.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Maybe that's a family member or friend?
Rookie LEO I think.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse There was more to the clip. He was perfectly pleasant with you until it became time not to be.
@@minerran wrong
Jesus Loves You All
Some cops need to go back to the Academy and learn how not to be rude to people!
Just wear turnout gear and I’ll leave you alone. I’m an ex fire chief. I would never give you a hard time.
I live in Long Branch & we have highrise condos & our fire department is a hundred times better than Lakewood.
Why do american fire fighters allways work in slow motion
Because running on the fire ground is dangerous
Sorry, there's no way that you're right to argue with him {4:38}, which you were. I'd say "Sorry, sir.", turn and walk away till he's happy. We have zoom lenses for a reason.
Pushing me back in my face, making up lies that I’m obstructing, pushing me back to a spot he knew I couldn’t film from, no he’s just being rude to prove a point and I’m going to stick up for myself cause I know how close is to close and what’s in the way. So I’m not going to let some hot head cop hinder my filming operation.
Amen
Another “seizure village fire”. How the fire standards don’t allow for adequate “truly Adequate” fire breaks between units is beyond me. I was an a emergency services member in Lakewood and same crap 40 yrs yes 40 years later. Had a townhouse that was hit by plane in Somerset county nj fire contained because cement firewalls not “rated construction foam boards” why are we having multiple major fires in multi housing units (Avalons properties and such”)shitty building codes!!! All has to do with pay to play. Can’t wait till we have to robo taxi fire trucks and ai generated robots as firefighters to prevent government waste of taxpayer dollars. Realistically how hard to get a drone to fly over any fire call or traffic like accident quickly and cost effectively to at least inform responders of conditions (or lack there of”) We need regionalized fire companies instead of wasting money on 1,000,000 dollar fire trucks for every dinky town
It depends on when they were built. If the buildings date back to the 60's, buildings weren't required to have fire walls, because of how the building codes and fire codes/laws were written back then.
Power tripping cop. Always worried about the wrong thing. Then throw the "I'll arrest you" out there when they don't get their way.