great little 'how video. I'm picking up a used 2015 model tomorrow and can't wait to take it camping. With the it'll extend the season up where we live by several months over a tent.
@@DallasWalker2024 sorry for the late response, I usually try to respond promptly. When popped up, the camper has a great shingling effect and does not leak. When winterizing it, or storing it, you'll want to use a waterproof tarp and possibly some weather period tape on the top seam to prevent water leakage.
Exactly what I was looking to see in regards to a Flagstaff hard side model opening/expansion sequence. He made it look easy for only the 2nd time doing it. Kudos to him. The PDI opening example we were shown on our new 2023 Forest River Flagstaff T12RBST (DOP: 3/27/23)was convoluted at best. Not to mention the closing sequence. Awful effort by their team member. She tried her best and I asked questions but figured I could find better on YT and voila. Do you have a closing up/compacting sequence to share? I'll look myself after this comment. TFS
Terrific video. I was hoping to find a video showing how to set one up. I do have a question for you. Will this camper fit in a single car garage when it's all folded up. We can't have an RV at our condo complex unless it fits into our single car garage. Thanks!
I think it would fit, but it'd be pretty tight. Ours is 14' long. They do sell models without the storage trunk which shortens the length of the trailer, but you also sacrifice storage space. I'd measure your garage and then look at the specs of the models you're looking at
When it's set up we have no issues with leaks. In storage, you have to make sure that the hitch is up a bit to make the roof slant back so the water rolls off the back and not into the seam where the two roof pieces meet. Gonna do a video on that, too.
New to looking for campers, was wondering after a few yrs if you are still using this camper and if you like it. I was wondering if it is too hard for disable people. ?? Also xan you order these customized? Thanks
We are still using this camper. It's been really great. I think that depends on the disability. You do need to be able to stand up to set this up, but one person can do it alone. It's pretty small, so you wouldn't be able to fit a wheelchair in it. I don't think they have customization options, but you'd need to ask a dealer.
lol i think people today are looking for somthing small really...... the days of 50ft fith wheels and long class As are long gone small and cozy makes more sense not to mention the divorce rate is sky high this year lol. so ya this makes more sense.
Love it! I like your video, it explains a lot for set up. I'm trying to upgrade from a Runaway camper (box on wheels} and this looks ideal! Does yours have the potty/shower area?
No, our model doesn't have the toilet/shower. At this point, we're wishing we had gotten one with it, but that's ok, we will just upgrade in a few years
Nice, enjoy! Did you look at Aliner as well? Seems to be similar in function, design, and build quality. I haven’t researched enough to see clear differentiation. Looks like your model will do great on maintained forest roads.
No, we didn't want one that had any tent sides since they need replacing semi-frequently. This one has the off-road package and does well on rougher terrain.
Forest River offers more layouts between their Rockwood and Flagstaff series. Aliner has options of soft/hard dormers on both sides. Some Forest River have dormer on one side. Forest River goes up to 21' vs Aliner Expedition @ 18'. Forest River offers motorized roof raising. Both have an off-road package. Forest River offers at least 4 models with Wet Bath. Aliner LXE @15' only offers wetbath. All Aliners have an 11gallon fresh water. Forest River is >20gallons fresh water. Forest River toilets are cassette or black water. Aliner is cassette only. Aliners appear to have more wind issues with their roofs, according to forums. Aliner has been around longer and appears to have a tighter knit community. Their resale value is also higher. Used Rockwoods drop drastically in price making them a cheaper alternative at almost 50% the cost of a new Forest River/Aliner. By used I only mean 2-3 years. I just bought a 2017 for $8250 vs an Aliner at $15-23K.
Devin, does the CO detector go off in windy days when you have the water heater running? Mine did. Mark is relocating the CO detector next to the microwave, below the bed, this week. Have him to do it under warranty. I replaced the speakers and the stereo (died after a few hours of use). Added another battery. Added cell phone booster. Been a backpacker, sleeping in tents and snow caves and a climber for many years. Sleeping in tents since the age of 5. I deserved an upgrade. This camper feels like a 5 star Marriot. Very happy with it.
We have not had the detector go off unless we test it. I wonder if yours might be a little faulty or maybe your water heater is leaking gas a little. We've taken the camper up to some very windy spots and no issues. We added a second battery and the solar package - the sole battery the camper comes with is kinda crap by itself. One of our friends actually recommended having 2 6 volt batteries instead of 2 12 volt batteries because they last longer in his experience. I think we'll probably invest in a small Honda generator, too. We haven't had issues with the stereo, but we don't like how you have to change it from indoor to outdoor or both, so we'll be adding a switch to dictate where the stereo plays (indoor, outdoor or both). We'll be posting another video here soon with our experiences and recommendations after having used the camper for a year. We still absolutely love the camper - it's so nice to have vs tent camping.
@@devin7452 The CO detector should be installed at at least 7' from the water heater, it is installed at about 6". Not good. That is why they are relocating it under warranty. I disconnected the outside speaker. No need to annoy neighbors when I am listening to Zeppelin, Deep Purple or Jimmy Hendrix and cooking at the same time. The grill that came with it, I threw it away. I bought a real two burner Camp Chef stove that kicks ass. I hook it up directly to the gas outlet next to the outdoor speaker. I added a second attachable table for more room while I am cooking. The 2 x 6V battery issue......hmmmmm, not sure about lasting longer. Mine came with 1 x 12V (105 Ah) battery. I have now 2 x 12V, 105 Ah each, batteries. That gives me 210Ah when hooked up in parallel. When you have 2 x 6V batteries you have to connect them in series to get 12V out of them. Unless you install 2 x 6V with 210 Ah capacity EACH, you will not get the same capacity. They might be available though, not sure. All appliances in that camper that are not 115VAC like the microwave, need 12 DCV. I installed a battery monitor to have capacity left in real time in the batteries. Very useful gadget. The 2200 Honda generator can run AND start the microwave or the air conditioning at the same time when the other one is running. It is the most expensive generator in its category but it is a little devil. Very smooth, quite and efficient. Love it. Impressed with the efficiency of the fridge in any of the three running modes.
Yea, but I personally think the Travel Manor is ugly and if you're going for a popup THAT and say the Alto Safari ($40K) are your only options for something garage-able. I forgot about the Scamp (as long as you're under 6'2). Other than additional storage, what are the other amenities?
I honestly don't feel like we need more amenities. This is our first camper, 2nd year using it, so we're used to roughing it in tents with a crap prep space for food and coffee, no running water, no fridge, no heat, no hard-sided walls, etc. This camper feels to my husband and me like glamping. Our dogs love it too, especially the little one who is afraid of everything 😂 gives her a nice safe place to hide (under the dinette). The only thing I can think that straight walls would offer is more headspace, which would be nice if you're taller. I'm 5'4" and my husband is 5'11". He hit his head a couple of times the first time we used it, but otherwise he's been really happy with this camper.
@@devin7452 Everyone always talks about lack of storage. I have several areas just empty. I'm starting to wonder if there's something we're forgetting. But before the camper, we would just travel with what we could carry on our back then overnight in a cheap motel. Did the same when traveling internationally.
@@DallasWalker2024 You could certainly put it up in the rain, but you will get water inside as you do it. It takes about 30-60 seconds to put it up, so during that time you would run the risk of getting rain inside. I had done it in light rain. However, check your seals frequently. Mine was less than a month old when it started leaking in the rain. I will never buy another Flagstaff product.
I feel like it has been. It was pretty much exactly what my husband and I were looking for and it cost a lot less than any of the other brands we were considering.
It was more that it was our 2nd (ish) time setting it up, so neither of us were good at it yet. We can get it set up in about 30 seconds now if both of us are doing it.
Just know that Forest River has a 1.3 star rating out of 5 with the Better Business Bureau. They make crappy campers that fall apart and then they refuse to pay for any of the repairs. They are pretty flashy in a video, but once the water starts leaking in it takes all the zeros off your investment. Buyer Beware.
On the off-road package that makes the step inside the camper nearly 3 feet. That also wouldn't help ground clearance at all. The axle is your limiting factor on ground clearance.
So many design flaws in this camper. Doors should open opposite side. Gaps when combining too and bottom doors. Not to mention the cabinets and sinks are knee level. Major design fail.
Not sure why you're concerned about the door opening a certain direction. When correctly assembled, there's no gap between the door and walls. They do offer what they call the high wall model which had standard cabinet height (or so we were told - we didn't look at those models).
Forest River offers the Highwall versions also, which is what I own. The cabinets are standard height in them. My husband is almost 6'4 so I can understand why you'd be concerned with scrunching over small cabinets. As stated when combined there are no door gaps and I'm not sure why you'd want the door to open in the opposite direction. Most people are right handed, so the direction is based on that. Having the door open to the inside would consume space. I don't think any RV door opens toward the inside. However, if you don't open it correct you can bend the door frame easily.
@@kharizmahs504 bending the door frame easily is something that I've seen on every pop up camper I've ever used. I think that's just a condition of owning a pop up camper. And as others have reiterated, if this guy doesn't like the door, then he should buy an RV, not a pop up camper
@@devin7452 I've seen SlimPotatohead use clamps you straighten his door so I'm hoping that works. Has anyone managed to reinforce it so it doesn't happen?
I like the grey. Looks more modern than the white
That's fine camper. Without popups in snow storm and worst case weather. Good presentation ☝️😎
great little 'how video. I'm picking up a used 2015 model tomorrow and can't wait to take it camping. With the it'll extend the season up where we live by several months over a tent.
Having a heater and solid walls makes it soooo much more comfortable camping in cold months
Great camper - We purchased the same make/model earlier this year.
We love it! We've taken it off-grid camping twice and it's been like having a hotel in the woods.
MAy I know do they leak easy when it rain ?
@@DallasWalker2024 sorry for the late response, I usually try to respond promptly. When popped up, the camper has a great shingling effect and does not leak. When winterizing it, or storing it, you'll want to use a waterproof tarp and possibly some weather period tape on the top seam to prevent water leakage.
Awesome, thanks. I need to find one with a 3/4 bath (inside).
Thank you. You are very good at these videos.
Thank you very nice camper congratulations on it
Thats a super cool camper.
Nice. Trail Manor still leading in innovation.
Wish you did more videos! I’d love to see the XX assemble the pop-up.
Thank you so much!
It took a little digging but I did find they do have art side pop-ups with a dry bath.
Nice video but how does it come down?
Exactly what I was looking to see in regards to a Flagstaff hard side model opening/expansion sequence.
He made it look easy for only the 2nd time doing it. Kudos to him.
The PDI opening example we were shown on our new 2023 Forest River Flagstaff T12RBST (DOP: 3/27/23)was convoluted at best. Not to mention the closing sequence. Awful effort by their team member. She tried her best and I asked questions but figured I could find better on YT and voila.
Do you have a closing up/compacting sequence to share? I'll look myself after this comment.
TFS
Terrific video. I was hoping to find a video showing how to set one up. I do have a question for you. Will this camper fit in a single car garage when it's all folded up. We can't have an RV at our condo complex unless it fits into our single car garage. Thanks!
I think it would fit, but it'd be pretty tight. Ours is 14' long. They do sell models without the storage trunk which shortens the length of the trailer, but you also sacrifice storage space. I'd measure your garage and then look at the specs of the models you're looking at
thank you so much for this
Thank you.
That's cool
I bet you were able to shave your setup time after you did it a few times. Nice concept. Pricy
Thank you!
Way cool.
I assume they have measure to prevent rain leaking in?
When it's set up we have no issues with leaks. In storage, you have to make sure that the hitch is up a bit to make the roof slant back so the water rolls off the back and not into the seam where the two roof pieces meet. Gonna do a video on that, too.
New to looking for campers, was wondering after a few yrs if you are still using this camper and if you like it. I was wondering if it is too hard for disable people. ?? Also xan you order these customized? Thanks
We are still using this camper. It's been really great. I think that depends on the disability. You do need to be able to stand up to set this up, but one person can do it alone. It's pretty small, so you wouldn't be able to fit a wheelchair in it. I don't think they have customization options, but you'd need to ask a dealer.
LOT OF WORK TO SET UP BUT I'M STILL THINKING OF BUYING ONE FOR MY BUCKET LIST TRIP MOVE BACK TO FLORIDA
It's a lot easier to set up than a regular pop up camper or a tent. If you're looking for an RV, then yes, this is more work.
lol i think people today
are looking for somthing small really......
the days of 50ft fith wheels
and long class As are long gone
small and cozy makes more sense
not to mention the divorce rate is sky high this year lol.
so ya this makes more sense.
Love it! I like your video, it explains a lot for set up. I'm trying to upgrade from a Runaway camper (box on wheels} and this looks ideal! Does yours have the potty/shower area?
No, our model doesn't have the toilet/shower. At this point, we're wishing we had gotten one with it, but that's ok, we will just upgrade in a few years
Nice, enjoy! Did you look at Aliner as well? Seems to be similar in function, design, and build quality. I haven’t researched enough to see clear differentiation. Looks like your model will do great on maintained forest roads.
No, we didn't want one that had any tent sides since they need replacing semi-frequently. This one has the off-road package and does well on rougher terrain.
Devin Hunsaker
Good to hear they offer an off-road package 👍🏼
Forest River offers more layouts between their Rockwood and Flagstaff series.
Aliner has options of soft/hard dormers on both sides. Some Forest River have dormer on one side.
Forest River goes up to 21' vs Aliner Expedition @ 18'.
Forest River offers motorized roof raising.
Both have an off-road package.
Forest River offers at least 4 models with Wet Bath. Aliner LXE @15' only offers wetbath.
All Aliners have an 11gallon fresh water. Forest River is >20gallons fresh water.
Forest River toilets are cassette or black water. Aliner is cassette only.
Aliners appear to have more wind issues with their roofs, according to forums.
Aliner has been around longer and appears to have a tighter knit community. Their resale value is also higher.
Used Rockwoods drop drastically in price making them a cheaper alternative at almost 50% the cost of a new Forest River/Aliner. By used I only mean 2-3 years.
I just bought a 2017 for $8250 vs an Aliner at $15-23K.
Devin, does the CO detector go off in windy days when you have the water heater running?
Mine did. Mark is relocating the CO detector next to the microwave, below the bed, this week. Have him to do it under warranty. I replaced the speakers and the stereo (died after a few hours of use). Added another battery. Added cell phone booster. Been a backpacker, sleeping in tents and snow caves and a climber for many years. Sleeping in tents since the age of 5. I deserved an upgrade. This camper feels like a 5 star Marriot. Very happy with it.
We have not had the detector go off unless we test it. I wonder if yours might be a little faulty or maybe your water heater is leaking gas a little. We've taken the camper up to some very windy spots and no issues. We added a second battery and the solar package - the sole battery the camper comes with is kinda crap by itself. One of our friends actually recommended having 2 6 volt batteries instead of 2 12 volt batteries because they last longer in his experience. I think we'll probably invest in a small Honda generator, too. We haven't had issues with the stereo, but we don't like how you have to change it from indoor to outdoor or both, so we'll be adding a switch to dictate where the stereo plays (indoor, outdoor or both). We'll be posting another video here soon with our experiences and recommendations after having used the camper for a year. We still absolutely love the camper - it's so nice to have vs tent camping.
@@devin7452 The CO detector should be installed at at least 7' from the water heater, it is installed at about 6". Not good. That is why they are relocating it under warranty. I disconnected the outside speaker. No need to annoy neighbors when I am listening to Zeppelin, Deep Purple or Jimmy Hendrix and cooking at the same time.
The grill that came with it, I threw it away. I bought a real two burner Camp Chef stove that kicks ass. I hook it up directly to the gas outlet next to the outdoor speaker.
I added a second attachable table for more room while I am cooking.
The 2 x 6V battery issue......hmmmmm, not sure about lasting longer. Mine came with 1 x 12V (105 Ah) battery. I have now 2 x 12V, 105 Ah each, batteries. That gives me 210Ah when hooked up in parallel. When you have 2 x 6V batteries you have to connect them in series to get 12V out of them. Unless you install 2 x 6V with 210 Ah capacity EACH, you will not get the same capacity. They might be available though, not sure. All appliances in that camper that are not 115VAC like the microwave, need 12 DCV.
I installed a battery monitor to have capacity left in real time in the batteries. Very useful gadget.
The 2200 Honda generator can run AND start the microwave or the air conditioning at the same time when the other one is running. It is the most expensive generator in its category but it is a little devil. Very smooth, quite and efficient. Love it.
Impressed with the efficiency of the fridge in any of the three running modes.
My friend has one for sale that I am interested in. Price is $5k. It is a 2011. Is that a good price?
The one in my video retailed for $16k.
Don’t ever say “ my husband is gonna set this up, he’s not to good at it yet”
How many adults can sleep?
"he's not very good at it yet...." yikes. Sorry dude.
It was his 2nd time setting it up. We're both really good at it now
How about going over how to take it down
It's literally the exact reverse of going up.
wow, 2 minutes.
Yeah, it's super fast.
straight walls might make for more amenities
Yea, but I personally think the Travel Manor is ugly and if you're going for a popup THAT and say the Alto Safari ($40K) are your only options for something garage-able. I forgot about the Scamp (as long as you're under 6'2). Other than additional storage, what are the other amenities?
I honestly don't feel like we need more amenities. This is our first camper, 2nd year using it, so we're used to roughing it in tents with a crap prep space for food and coffee, no running water, no fridge, no heat, no hard-sided walls, etc. This camper feels to my husband and me like glamping. Our dogs love it too, especially the little one who is afraid of everything 😂 gives her a nice safe place to hide (under the dinette). The only thing I can think that straight walls would offer is more headspace, which would be nice if you're taller. I'm 5'4" and my husband is 5'11". He hit his head a couple of times the first time we used it, but otherwise he's been really happy with this camper.
@@devin7452 Everyone always talks about lack of storage. I have several areas just empty. I'm starting to wonder if there's something we're forgetting. But before the camper, we would just travel with what we could carry on our back then overnight in a cheap motel. Did the same when traveling internationally.
@@kharizmahs504 same here. We have so much space with this camper.
Bought one in 2018...nothing but problems. Falling apart at the seems.
I was wondering, how can this put up with the rain ?
@@DallasWalker2024 You could certainly put it up in the rain, but you will get water inside as you do it. It takes about 30-60 seconds to put it up, so during that time you would run the risk of getting rain inside. I had done it in light rain. However, check your seals frequently. Mine was less than a month old when it started leaking in the rain. I will never buy another Flagstaff product.
was this camper worth the money?
I feel like it has been. It was pretty much exactly what my husband and I were looking for and it cost a lot less than any of the other brands we were considering.
Price?
Depends on the dealership you purchase from.
@@devin7452
Thanks, so the ball park number is 10k?
MSRP is $16k. I think we paid a little over $14K.
@@devin7452 Thanks
You can now get this for $13k
AC????
Yup, has a 13000 btu unit. Very effective at cooling the whole camper, but you can only use it when plugged into electricity or a generator.
D B COOPER ... I knew you made it!!!!
Why do you say that your partner is not good at setting it up? Be a little more positive, he did great!
It was more that it was our 2nd (ish) time setting it up, so neither of us were good at it yet. We can get it set up in about 30 seconds now if both of us are doing it.
Just know that Forest River has a 1.3 star rating out of 5 with the Better Business Bureau. They make crappy campers that fall apart and then they refuse to pay for any of the repairs. They are pretty flashy in a video, but once the water starts leaking in it takes all the zeros off your investment. Buyer Beware.
I would have pull the stairs first.
On the off-road package that makes the step inside the camper nearly 3 feet. That also wouldn't help ground clearance at all. The axle is your limiting factor on ground clearance.
Afffff dentro q todos querem ver não mostra 😡🤬
Tengo otro video que muestra el interior.
Hes not very good at it yet ahahahahahahahaha
So many design flaws in this camper. Doors should open opposite side. Gaps when combining too and bottom doors. Not to mention the cabinets and sinks are knee level. Major design fail.
Not sure why you're concerned about the door opening a certain direction. When correctly assembled, there's no gap between the door and walls. They do offer what they call the high wall model which had standard cabinet height (or so we were told - we didn't look at those models).
Of course the cabinets are going to be that small... its a pop up camper.. if you don't like it, buy an RV.. spoiled ass
Forest River offers the Highwall versions also, which is what I own. The cabinets are standard height in them. My husband is almost 6'4 so I can understand why you'd be concerned with scrunching over small cabinets. As stated when combined there are no door gaps and I'm not sure why you'd want the door to open in the opposite direction. Most people are right handed, so the direction is based on that. Having the door open to the inside would consume space. I don't think any RV door opens toward the inside. However, if you don't open it correct you can bend the door frame easily.
@@kharizmahs504 bending the door frame easily is something that I've seen on every pop up camper I've ever used. I think that's just a condition of owning a pop up camper. And as others have reiterated, if this guy doesn't like the door, then he should buy an RV, not a pop up camper
@@devin7452 I've seen SlimPotatohead use clamps you straighten his door so I'm hoping that works. Has anyone managed to reinforce it so it doesn't happen?