The Stad Ship Tunnel: The First Full-Size Ship Tunnel in the World
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That 24.5 kilometer Lærden tunnel sounds fascinating, I’d love to see a Megaprojects video on it!
Lærdal*, I drive through it everytime I go to my cabin. It's pretty amazing.
@@noone-ld7pt yeah, its very nice ^^
Agreed, that would a fun one.
Could add a sidenote that another tunnel is about to break that in Norway. The Rogfast tunnel is under construction
I drove through that once. Didn't know what it was before getting there and was quite surprised how long it went on for
30 years ago i worked on a small tanker. (90 meters long) we travelled up and down the norwegian coast delivering fuel to small fishing harbors. crossing the stad sucked on the best of days. the sea there is really brutal, hope they actually build the tunnel
It's cool that you have experienced that.
50 years ago, I took the ferry from Bergen to Trondheim and remember rounding the Stad well. I especially remember the coastal freighter with decks awash that passed in front of the ferry. I remember because the freighter's captain came out on the bridge and shook his fist at the ferry. You could see the expression on his face, we were that close.
I wonder if the water level is *exactly* the same on both sides? Tidal height variations and timing could result in significant flow from one side to the other. Still, Norwegian engineers probably have that covered. If not, Simon's disasters-at-the-end-of-the-video section will have some material!
The tunnel is soon complete 😁
The Norwegian fjords really are beautiful. It's no wonder that the guy who designed them won an award. 😉
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#Slartibartfast 🤣🤣🤣
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Yeah, but his bosses were a couple of rats.
It'll soon be towel day... RIP Douglas Adams.
I vote for two new videos from this one:
1) The car tunnel you mentioned (but had the wrong label for)
2) A follow-up on the Stad tunnel when it opens, to show how it actually looks and works, as well as updating any problems that may have been encountered.
Cant wait to see how they get an Evergreen cargo ship out of it...
This comment is underrated
We do everything in Scandinavia, what’s the problem?
The design spec for this tunnel is for smaller feeder cargo ships. The width of the tunnel could handle the old Panama Canal limits, but the depth of water is too shallow for ships of that design.
r/wooosh 🤣🤣🤣
I'm curious to see how they solve the displacement of water. The suction under the hull will be huge. Do you think they will use tractors to pull the ships through the tunnel. I know you could not steer a ship in that situation.
Little do they know, they will free The Kraken!
I would love to see a video on the Lærdan tunnel!
06:20 - YES
DEFINITELY a Megaprojects on that!
If you please!
I second this!
Absolutely amazing. Engineers are the coolest humans.
Engineers are cool(my fathers one) but imo musicians are the coolest dudes around
@@nolongerblocked6210 I’d estimate that a full 1/3 of the Engineers I’ve worked with have _also_ been musicians, having dual degrees in music, playing clubs on the weekend and the like. (One dude and his band even made it on MTV back in the day, when there was actually music.) Real Engineering requires a very significant amount of creativity as well as an appreciation for and fluent use of patterns. These two groups may be much more alike than different.
This is actually a very straight foreword project. It's very short and many modern bridge projects cost may times more. The ships going through are only 16k tons, medium to large ocean ferry sized. It is an impressive project, but very doable.
about 18 km from were the tunnel is planned, is the famous world war 2 raid was done in 1941, (Måløyraidet) Operation Archery , where the British commandos attacked the Germans, One of the British Officers was the famus Jack Churchill who fought in ww2 with longbow, broadsword, and a bagpipe. I think Simon did a video on him.
sounds super interesting. All for this
I remember that video! He had almost a handle bar mustache too, very interesting guy
Driving through southern Louisiana and seeing massive container ships going along at the top of the big hill you are at the bottom of is wild! Not quite the same as a tunnel but a weird feeling to know how far below sea level you are..
The "Hills " are called Levees and they were Built by the Corps of Engineers ( U S Army ) to keep the Mississippi River from flooding Louisiana in the Spring time
Really in Louisiana , only New Orleans is below Sea level
In some places they aren't even man made levees. What he is talking about is actually a thing. You are below sea level in New Orleans and therefore the river's water level is matching the tidal flow at sea level, possibly ten or fifteen feet above you. But the "hill" may be a gradual slope up to water level. It may be natural. Sometimes it might be an imperceptible slope for a mile or two.
Yes, along the French quarter you can walk up steps and then look at boats at the level of the top of the steps, and that is a man made earthen levee.
@@PhilLesh69 River silt buildup carryed from the river , I thought the Levees stoped that , I never went farther south than New Orleans when I lived in Louisiana
In Weilburg north of Frankfurt(Main) you have three tunnels in a small city: one for ships, one for trains and one for cars.
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A video on the uk longboat canal would be cool
Yes please for video on Laerdal Tunnel!
Next is a tunnel for planes to fly through instead of over mountains
Trains next, if we do not watch out.
Take my money😆
The maiden flight should play free bird, but only the solo
Talk about treading the needle
That has oddly enough been done ,,, sort of.
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Simon I'm expecting a megaprojects video in 2028 with you standing at the entrance watching the first ship go through, i think it will be done on time
You should do a video about the Rogfast undersea tunnel, it will be 26.6km long and it's deepest point will be 390m below sea-level.
Impressive build time. Here in Australia, it takes us 5 years just to build 2km of two lane road. And usually by the time of completion there are already potholes!
And we also blow out the budget by 100% in the process.
You must be in one of those efficient states 😂
We've been building the Bruce Hwy for 70 years
Funny thing is, to us northern Europeans, Norway is known to be a bureaucratic nightmare. Spoke to a guy in Bergen about a road build that had been delayed over and over again for as long as he could remember, and the guy was around 50. The road was just a few km long.
@@carlkolthoff5402You've never been in the real bureaucratic hell that is Germany. Near my parents place they build a 1.7km long and 160m high bridge which took them almost 40 years (Hochmoselbrücke).
@DennisScheer oh, I've been to Germany many times! It's a lovely country that I thoroughly love to visit. Fortunately, as a tourist I don't really encounter much of the bureaucracy. For the citizens, I imagine it's a whole other story.
The high strength concrete will need to be resistant to sea salt for a century, which is a tall order...
In 2021, there were 80 traffic fatalities in Norway. That was the lowest number of deaths in traffic accidents in many years. Over the past decade, the highest number of traffic related deaths was registered in 2013 when 187 individuals lost their lives.Oct 28, 2022
33 deaths in 78 years. But in 2004 the coastal steamer MS Midnatsol experienced engine failure at Stad. In nine meter waves the both engines stopped and the anchors halted the ship 150 meters from the shore, it hit the seabed, but after two hours the crew was able to start the engines again. It had 102 passengers onboard, and if the anchor chains had broken, it is safe to say a lot of the passengers never would have seen daylight again.
The sea is a beautiful lover, but a cruel mistress.
This is on my bucket list when it’s finished….
I’d like to take a ferry ride through the world’s first maritime tunnel…..
Learn how to either hold your breath of use an oxygen tank. The diesel fumes will kil you!
@@archerychampion You serious? How come I never got killed by diesel fumes sitting in a traffic jam in a motorway tunnel?
@@u1zha the diesel fuel used for cargo and most passenger ships is not “clean diesel”. The smoke belched from their stacks is filled with thick black smoke and soot (passengers in aft cabins today complain of the gritty soot that falls on their balconies).
The volume of exhaust from one container ship would easily exceed that of a tunnel’s worth of cars.
Now picture a stream of ships, one after the other (even if sent through alone). The air would be unbreathable in no time at all.
@@archerychampion Do you think they're unaware of the need for ventilation? This is hardly the first tunnel built by humans, FFS.
@@archerychampion "The most efficient container ships are 2x more efficient than typical trains and 20x more efficient than typical trucks"
That translates to - no, I think there's no obvious conclusion that the ship fumes would fill the tunnel disproportionately quickly.
And this is not a route traveled by very large bulk or container ships, afaiu.
What about lights inside the tunnel and there would also need some sort of traffic regulation like red and green lights on either side of the tunnel if there is only room for one ship to pass at a time.
commercial ships have "ship towers" that works exactly like the towers at airports for planes, telling all ships in the vicinity who goes when. Red and green light, haha. You realize it takes a couple of km stopping a ship, it needs to be planned a while ahead so they can keep moving all the time. And its different for different ship, so there is nowhere to place a red light, even if ships could brake like a car
@@alexdaland For airplanes there are lights too on the runway ramps. I would not be surprised if they did put some sort of lights on the tunnel entrances (in addition to the tower you're talking about)
A video on another big Norwegian tunnel sounds excellent! Yes please.
We can now look forward to seeing Stadmax ships in the future.
I wonder what Slartibartfast thinks of this project. I mean, he designed Norway's fijords the way they are for a reason.
Fortunately he built New Zealand as backup
@@longboardfella5306 no silly, that was George Santos
When Norway builds, they build it right
Not sure if I’m dreading or can’t wait for the first incident video about this tunnel.
I'm not saying that they will move burning man into that tunnel or anything, only that they should
Tidal current wasn't mentioned. I'm familiar with the Cape Cod canal and the tidal current is amazing.
Clearly the longest road tunnel in the world is worthy of having it's own Megaprojects episode
0:20 loooool "Boston's big dig", dunno why it had me lul'ing
I think the tunnel opening should be covered with a large rock door which requires someone to say "open sesame" in order to pass through.
1:20 - Chapter 1 - The end
2:25 - Mid roll ads
4:10 - Back to the video
5:40 - Chapter 2 - The solution
7:30 - Chapter 3 - Specs & construction
This project has just been put on hold, becouse of higher than expected costs. So may no ever hapend!
The expected cost has grown from 3,5 billion NOK to over 5 billion. The government has put it on hold and asked the project to find out if it can be done cheaper.
I feel like it would need some sort of automatic guidance system - like bumpers on a bowling alley or tug boat system.
If a ship isn't capable of guiding itself through that, it probably shouldn't be permitted to move.
That 24.5 kilometer Lærden tunnel sounds fascinating, I’d love to see a Megaprojects video
Simon should cover the Grand Coulee Dam, it turly is a mega project that deserves more spotlight.
Will Disney pay them to play "It's a small world" in the tunnel?
Oh yeah, and when the ship goes in you’ll probably have a bunch of passengers going bonkers when the ship exits….
I always chuckle at renderings that show sailboats docked with the sails up.
If ancient Romans had engines then they'd have the first boat tunnel definitely, but they went with canals because there was no way to sail or row a battle ship through a wide/high enough tunnel. They connected Lake Avernus to the ocean and planted a hidden harbor in it, connecting it to another lake and the sea with a series of canals and supply tunnels.
Yes!! Show us the complete tunnel, it looks pretty sharp
I wonder what kind of current will flow through the tunnel once it's finished...
More tunnel videos. Great stuff! MegaGood!
My mother was a Norwegian descent. I would like to go see that project once it's completed.
Very cool. I'd like to hear about the other tunnel & how they dealt with the task of digging through a mountain.
Seems like a great idea
Nice work Fact Boy👍👊
This is Norway we're talking about. They'll get it right the first time, on time and on budget.
What if they actually build two? Just because they can!🤔🤣😊
Need a megaprojects on Simon and all his CZcams channels 😂
Slartibartfast, richly desired the award, he was a genius costal designer!!!
I love how after watching many of your amazing videos ... this one made me laugh at one point .
The moment you were explaining "they have all their ducks in a row" you can hear the "and ive looked to tried to find some Cons in the pros and cons and there just arnt any" in your voice at that moment .
Thank you for you effort and information . Please dnt give up ever.
Would you ever cover the Seiken tunnel between Hokkaido and Honshu?
yes please do a video on the Stad Ship Tunnel, sounds interesting.
Would definitely love to see a video on the Lærden tunnel.
Fascinating!
G'day Simon,
Some say making Tunnels is Boring, but I find your videos about them very interesting so yes please to a video about the Lærdal tunnel😁
Norwegian Blue ... Beautiful Plumage !!
One "minor" issue I can see is that thrill seekers with small aircraft will be tempted to fly through the tunnel. It would make an interesting idea for a movie plot point if someone tries to do that as a surprize move in their plans for saving or dominating the World. They could also use a submarine.
Having something like spitfire flying through it during opening ceremony is IMHO interesting idea and something that should be considered.
@@MrToradragon I like it. Sweden has many fine aircraft of their own.
"It seems like Norway's got all of its ducks in a row." 11:00
- basically Norway all of the time with everything... 🇳🇴❤
At 12:10 the Šentvid tunnel in Ljubljana is shown. One of the most controversial tunnels built with budget overruns, multiple annexations and even parts of the tunnel falling down a few years after it being constructed.
They do seem to be creating a rod for their own backs by limiting the size of ship to little more than a modern coaster and occasional fishing boats; if you're going to do this then go big (or, at least, bigger). All the same this is quite probably the most exciting project in Europe ... and will be for some time
The Big Dig, meant to ease traffic congestion in Boston. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Simon, how you doin? Why ask if there is something we want to have A farmer took his truck in for repairs. The local mechanics couldn't do it while he waited: so, as he didn't live far, he said he would just walk home. On the way home he stopped at the hardware store and bought a bucket and a gallon of paint. He then stopped by the feed store and picked up a couple of chickens and a goose. However, struggling outside the store he now had a problem. - how to carry his entire purchases home. While he was scratching his head he was approached by a little old lady who told him she was lost. "Can you tell me how to get to 1603 Mockingbird Lane ?" she asked. "Well, “ said the farmer, “as a matter of fact, my farm is very close to that house. I would gladly walk you there, but I can't carry this lot." “Why don't you put the can of paint in the bucket,” suggested the little old lady, “Carry the bucket in one hand, put a chicken under each arm, and carry the goose in your other hand?' “Why, thank you very much,” he said and proceeded to walk the old girl home. On the way he said. “'Let's take my shortcut and go down this alley. We'll be there in no time.” The little old lady looked him over cautiously and then said, “I am a lonely widow without a husband to defend me. How do I know that when we get in the alley you won't hold me up against the wall, pull up my skirt, and have your way with me?” “Holy smokes lady!”, the farmer said. “I'm carrying a bucket, a gallon of paint, two chickens, and a goose. How in the world could I possibly hold you up against the wall and do that?” “Well, if you WERE to do such a thing,” the old lady replied, “you would set the goose down, cover him with the bucket, put the paint on top of the bucket, and I would hold the chickens.” down by you. You already know the answer is going to be YES YES!
They have been talking about this and planning it since i moved to Norway in 1986, parlaiment have “decided” that it will be built no less than four times. There is normal speed and there is Norwegian speed. It took them 35 years to build a bridge over hardanger fjord.
The Lærdal tunnel will in about 2033 be surpassed by Rogfast, a 26.7km long undersea tunnel reaching 392 meters below sea level. Construction started in 2021.
Sounds like the ultimate liminal space.
This is Norway, they dont do "flaws, delays and waiting catastrophes" that create problems, they dont really know how to.
They see something to build, they plan properly, and then they just get it done. You're in Norway, not America.
The fishing ship I worked on once had total engine failure right on the tip of the Stadt peninsula. We had to manually pump up the airpreassure to get the 3000 hp engine going. It took 9 hours. We were thanking God it was exceptionally good weather that day. (We were helt in position by a rescue boat the whole time, but we were to heavy to move)
It does help that Norway has the largest Sovereign Wealth Fund in the world - so they can afford this.
I wonder how they are planning to deal with storm surges on either end pushing high waves through the tunnel. I don't doubt that the designers are much smarter than me and know what they are doing, but I'm curious to find out just for my own edification.
The Bermuda triangle: Statistically not more dangerous than any other water on earth.
Norwegian Stad peninsula: Yeah, the waters here are so dangerous, we have to build a ship tunnel.
Longest tunnel video??? Hell YES
When the video started I thought Simon was doing this video from his golden throne.
There are also huge lifts for boats in canals to join two bodies of water at extremely different elevations. I know that there are a few around germany, and I think there may be one or two around the great lakes as well. I guess the energy to lift a giant tub of water and a boat is same or less than pumping water into a lock to achieve the same.
Oh, yeah. There's also canals that have massive boat bridges that pass over other waterways, or roads or railways or even to cross gorges, etc.
More tunnels Simon!
Remarkable project - like the old Victorian idea of the Caledonian Canal in the Highlands of Scotland but on modern steroids, both cutting through similar landscapes of lochs, fjords and mountainous terrain, both designed to save a risky journey round the stormy northern coasts.
Oooh I want a Megaprojects on the really big tunnel
SF has a tunnel too ya know, the BART Transbay Tube. Which isn't really a tunnel through anything, it's actually segments of tube and track laid into the bay floor and covered with rock and mud, but it still connects two points though a tube under an element not easy to build through. So...
What you just described…. Is literally a tunnel
Last time I rode the BART it seemed like it was almost falling apart & that was 20yrs ago, lol
Are you high?
More tunnel vids pls
Am wondering if there will be any tidal current, like we get with Puget Sound's Deception Pass, which can add or subtract quite a bit of speed depending on the changing tide.
Yes please on the tunnel video.
Lol, i core drilled that mountain for exactly this project.
Very cool!! You live in Norway or just there for work??
What's the geology there like? I do core analysis down in Arizona-couldn't imagine building such a massive unsupported span with the jacked up rock we have in places here
Big dig
Fire in a tunnel = bad
Fire on a ship = bad
Fire on a ship in a tunnel = worst nightmare
They'd probably keep tugs around to pull out any ship burning inside without engine power.
In the Chunnel they rely on redundancy of locomotives. If a lorry catches fire during shuttle passage, they carry on with the passage.
I thought you already did one on the Lædal tunnel. Okay, yes. Count me in as a "yes" for a video on it.
I would imagine that they'll need tunnel pilots (as they have harbor pilots and canal pilots).
"No problems we can anticipate."
Ever given: hold my beer.
For the time it'll take for ships to come in towards the tunnel, line up, slowly move through it, then navigating around other vessels upon exit, no way they are gonna get 120+ boats through there a day. A container ship size vessel I'll bet is gonna tie things up for at least an hour each. Interesting project nonetheless, I hope they build it!
Would it be easier today to construct a ship-sized sea-level tunnel across the mountain ranges of Panama / Nicaragua / Thailand or a sea-level canal cut? There's conceivably a lot less material to move.
Panama canal is not sea level cut, but combination of artificial lake, locks, river and canal. And it was cheapest solution and would be even today as lake is only about 28 metres above sea level, roughly half of the height of the tunnel height.
In other cases you have proposed, tunnels would have to be at least 40 km long and you would have to build two of them in order to have significant capacity and they would have to be
much larger in size and in e.g. in case of Thailand you would be replacing some 2500 km over free sea with 1200 km rout with some 60-80 km long canal section. I am not sure whether that would be wort it.
I would say that there is much more potential for ship tunnels and canals, even of this size, around Europe.
@@MrToradragon Panama Canal was initially intended to be at sea level when France tried to build it. There is one large difference between Panama Canal and Stad Ship Tunnel which is the geology. At Stad it is hard gneiss. In Panama, the martial was a lot softer, the Culebra Cut where the removed the most material had the large problem of landslides.
If you tried a tunnel in Panama it is very likely the simplest way is to cut and cover, so dig away all material on top build a tube, and then put back material on top.
If you try to cross the Kra Isthmus in Thailand the height of the hills is only 75 meters, I assume the location with lowes elevation is most suitable for a canal. There will not be a lot of material on top if large ships should be able to pass so a tunnel is likely not worth it. I Staad the elevation is around 350 meters where the tunnel is, if you move it a bit it is reduced to 200 meters
Of course it had to be in Norway!
Yes please on the larden tunnel
More tunnels please 🐤
fascinating. i wonder what enviromental impact will result to sea life, etc...
Will there not be some kind of guiding wheels or something running alongside?
It’s all well and good until a ship breaks down and gets stuck inside the tunnel 😂
or when there's an oil leak as well - then TWO coasts can suffer the consequences instead of just one!
They can “bumper car” it out the other side!!🤣🤣😊😊
Could had mention how do they intend to deal with the ships exhaust emissions.
Ships are heavy polluters and being stuck in a cruise ship inside a tunnel without proper ventilation would suck.
Being stuck inside a motorway tunnel in a traffic jam is probably worse from air volume and engine efficiency standpoint. Ofc proper ventilation will be worked out here too
i very much want to see the fire suppression system they will implement..
if only they had a source of water handy, would make it so much easier.
Probably tugs to pull out any burning straddled ships and then proceed as normal.
Note that Chunnel for example does not have a suppression system along its length. They rely on redundancy of locomotives to be able to pull the train through. By now they have installed a number of fixed deluge systems but initially there wasn't even that.
They need to put "The Argonath" need to be build on the "outside" end of the tunnel!