Putting UNT, UTSA, Rice, SHU, Texas State, and Tulsa in the “geographic sense” category is pushing it. Like honestly, cut those and you end up with nearly the same thing without all the “adding value” nonsense.
I’d agree… My idea for a new-look Pac-12 would have them delve into the Big Sky conference, as well as the MWC, giving Washington State their rivalry with Idaho back, as well as Idaho State, Boise State, Montana, and Montana State… Sure, they may be a large step down in quality of program, but they make a lot more geographic sense than the eastern flyover states
@@zachellenburg5738hell even the sec I think the teams all make sense in it but I understand someone having a problem with 3 to 4 teams in it both Texas schools and Oklahoma is weird but I don’t mind if
It would have to be a coast to coast conference to be part of the M3 behind the P2. Lets take a look at what schools are historically strong in both football and men's basketball would be the first one. San Diego State, Boise State, UNR, Colorado State, Wyoming, Utah State, Memphis, USF, North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Western Kentucky, Marshall. Than we go strong football. Fresno State, Air Force, Montana. Montana State, UTSA, Tulane, UAB, App State, Troy, ECU, Coastal Carolina, Chattanooga, Georgia Southern, JMU, Delaware, Toledo, Northern Illinois, Miami OH, Ohio, Western Michigan, Illinois State. Now, strong men's basketball. Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita State, Missouri State, ODU, Buffalo, Dayton, VCU, Vermont, UConn and the likes. If you grab from 12 to 14 football schools and add like Hawaii, Navy and Army as football only, and add several of the basketball schools like VCU, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Dayton, Wichita State? You could get more money than you get from the AAC and MWC combined.
@@rubble1924 Cal yes. They actually have a rich football history. The others not really. You'll have to take that up with the power 4 conferences who wanted them. As a power 4. I would have rather Oregon State over Colorado bc they're competitive enough in football, and they're the Alabama of college baseball.
I want the old pac 12 back
Same 😢
We all do
i do too
I want my pac 8 back
Well ain’t gonna happen
Pac2+Mountain west= new conference
Rice adds value in football or basketball? When's the last time they had a winning record in football OR got a bid to March Madness?
Rice bumps up the average GPA of the whole conference. Its like why the SEC lets Vandy stick around.
@@jpthomas9491vandy is elite at baseball dont ever speak ill of the dores
@@jpthomas9491 They also let Vandy stick around because they were originally there in the first place
Putting UNT, UTSA, Rice, SHU, Texas State, and Tulsa in the “geographic sense” category is pushing it. Like honestly, cut those and you end up with nearly the same thing without all the “adding value” nonsense.
I’d agree… My idea for a new-look Pac-12 would have them delve into the Big Sky conference, as well as the MWC, giving Washington State their rivalry with Idaho back, as well as Idaho State, Boise State, Montana, and Montana State… Sure, they may be a large step down in quality of program, but they make a lot more geographic sense than the eastern flyover states
I mean if Stanford can go in the acc then everything is free game
@@meowmeowing554 That’s what I’m saying. Geographical sense doesn’t make any sense in a new pac 12 anymore
@@zachellenburg5738hell even the sec I think the teams all make sense in it but I understand someone having a problem with 3 to 4 teams in it both Texas schools and Oklahoma is weird but I don’t mind if
Let's goo fresno Bulldogs
I agree
It would have to be a coast to coast conference to be part of the M3 behind the P2. Lets take a look at what schools are historically strong in both football and men's basketball would be the first one.
San Diego State, Boise State, UNR, Colorado State, Wyoming, Utah State, Memphis, USF, North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Western Kentucky, Marshall. Than we go strong football. Fresno State, Air Force, Montana. Montana State, UTSA, Tulane, UAB, App State, Troy, ECU, Coastal Carolina, Chattanooga, Georgia Southern, JMU, Delaware, Toledo, Northern Illinois, Miami OH, Ohio, Western Michigan, Illinois State. Now, strong men's basketball. Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita State, Missouri State, ODU, Buffalo, Dayton, VCU, Vermont, UConn and the likes. If you grab from 12 to 14 football schools and add like Hawaii, Navy and Army as football only, and add several of the basketball schools like VCU, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Dayton, Wichita State? You could get more money than you get from the AAC and MWC combined.
plus utsa there too
As a road runner fan and beaver fan I’d have a hard time on rooting if this happened
“Must make geographic sense.”
Ah, yes. Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and Denton, TX scream Pacific coast…
We need the MWC
There’s absolutely no way the new pack 12 would not include Stanford Cal Oregon state or Washington state
Stanford and Cal aren’t going back
Didn't you hear? They are on the Atlantic coast now. They picked up everything and went to the east coast. After all, they are in the ACCA. 🤣
There’s absolutely no way the new pack 12 would not include Stanford or Cal Oregon state or Washington state
Why would Stanford and Cal leave the Big 12 for the weaker PAC 12?
@@zardsire2012bro what? They’re joining the ACC in 2024… Do some of y’all not watch college football?
must it really make geographic sense tho nowadays?
If this is what the pac 12 could look like, Oregon state and wsu need out
I don't fully agree. The conference doesn't matter for baseball or basketball, and neither have ever really been relevant in football.
@@ChickenFriedDryEraseMarkersand Colorado ASU and Cal have?
@@rubble1924 Cal yes. They actually have a rich football history. The others not really. You'll have to take that up with the power 4 conferences who wanted them. As a power 4. I would have rather Oregon State over Colorado bc they're competitive enough in football, and they're the Alabama of college baseball.
The MAC-12 is more like it
This might be the dumbest video ever. And who the hell wants Rice?
It won’t be the pac-12 MWC schools will never join