Salisbury And Suburbs - Rhodesia (1960-1969)
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2014
- Salisbury and suburbs, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe).
CU water fountain in park, pan out to aerial view, pan across blocks of flats. Aerial view car parking in centre of main road. Water fountain through tops of trees. Big church in square beside park. Pan out from native Rhodesian sitting on a bench. Pan along passed man crouching on grass verge. Pan along (mostly) whitewashed suburban houses and bungalows, with lawns and garages, cars and caravans. Native Rhodesian's tending one of the gardens. Pan along passed road sign 'Caithness Road' and another saying 'Midlothian Ave' ? Pan along stores including Bon Marche, Sweet Corner, Shell garage. Native Rhodesians loading groceries ? in brown paper bags into white lady's car. Native Rhodesian walking after a family with trolley full of brown paper bags and loads the front of the car.
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I miss my lovely home town. Lovely memory. .40 years ago. Best years of my life.
weird query, did you ever hear of/ go to Ellis Robins high school in the mid 1960s, as this was the time my Dad lived there and hes trying to get in touch with old classmates
Sorry mate I was in the army in the 60 s. Good luck my friend.
I'm only 22. I wasn't ever alive while this great country was around. But I can tell you I would move to Rhodesia in a heart beat if it were still here! Love from 🇨🇦
@@leemon908 it was the best time for me growing up. Although I went to boarding school in gwelo. Then I joined the R L I. It was still my home town and I loved it. Cheers.
Yes i, m too.. my beautiful rodesia
The lack of audio just makes it seem all the more distant and surreal. Really makes you think about what we lost.
This looks like an insanely nice place to live
💖👌👍
Went there in 2007 ... I ate a carrot for dinner
@@MrSimonw58 The only way to truly go there is with a time machine.
It sure does. But now that country is wrecked, everyone is a Trillionaire (shame its barely worth the paper its printed on though), many were killed but the lefties think that's fine because the Whites were removed from power........
@@gazof-the-north1980 hopefully one day they'll get a non Marxist government for the sake of Zimbabweans and their health
Oh my goodness, so many wonderful memories , those were the most wonderful years of my life growing up in Rhodesia, we never appreciated how blessed we were.
Where do u live now?
@@oriettoberti2501 We live in Wyoming USA, love it here, but never forget our memorable wonderful years growing up in Rhodesia.
Очень жаль вашу чудесную страну! Очень жаль! Rhodesia will never die
I don’t know anyone from Rhodesia but makes me sad to see what happened.
@@ladydianagonifaswhat part of Rhodesia did you grow up?
This brings me back nearly 58 years, attending St. Michaels boarding school in Salisbury. Even now I mis Life in Rhodesia.
Zimbabweans should comment truthfully about what life is really like today 2020. My 98 yr old Granny can tell you what life was really like back then. The younger generation have been brainwashed that's why they see suffering and poverty as normal. Every month I send money ku musha (home) to my extended family, it hurts because things are getting worse and there is only so much I can do to help. 😥😭🙏
Still whites live there??? Why west is not helping them??
@@kiran-yz8io bad leadership is what is making life bad. Its only China that has a grip in Zim.
@@truezladye1893 yes those fools deserve chinese control ..... r u white zimbabwen???
@@kiran-yz8io no, I'm mixed race
@@truezladye1893 do u think south africa going that way??? ..... now i know why jesus said love ur neighbours
The country was absolutely great, with smart and clean people.
@Der Traubengott White and Black Rhodesians, the quality of life was much better for both back then.
@@qr8440 Black people were practically treated as slaves.
And now they starve or get murdered
@@pixel6698 Wrong. Name an African country where European colonization made life worse for the average person. For sure many atrocities were committed by the colonizers. But on the balance, if you look at life expectancy, education level, general living standards, etc, life was vastly improved everywhere in Africa, thanks to Europeans.
@@brothernumber1576 Literally reciting imperialist propaganda. Slavery and colonization absolutely devestated Africa and are largely why Africa is still so underdeveloped. Africa is still being exploited by foreign powers today. Many of the "improvements" Europe made to Africa were just to be able to exploit the continent easier.
6:18 Ice cream man... Brings back good memories.
A blind kid kicked the ice cream man to death
Simon Watts well thats not very nice
Rhodesia was far more developed than my country in the 1960s. But today, the situation is the opposite. My country had progressed further while Zimbabwe has gone backwards.
@B0omer96 what political ongoing could have possibly caused this downward trend in quality of life?
What country are you from
@@moisesaguirre515 I am from Malaysia. Rhodesia was highly regarded here in the 1960s and 1970s for its high standards of living in the whole of Africa.
Such a wonderful place to live. Treasured memories. Gone forever, into the darkness
My beautiful home town
😚
Keith Watson
They tried to stop it. The west, the USA, UK, the commonwealth, we failed Rhodesia
Keith Watson too bad that your politics sold Rhodesia out
Thumos Aeterna for obviously. Look at the state of it now
@@keithwatson1384 are you do stupid the country did so well it was just that everyone betrayed them for no reason. They got called out for everything they were doing, and called racist when they had done nothing bad.
The last images are from the Eastlea area of Harare and Eastlea shopping centre. Some of the roads like Caithness and Thurso Close are still there to this day. Awesome trip to the past
It was very organised...we threw the baby with the bathwater.
Very good expression , kkkkk
Naw, they drowned the baby in the bath water.
They would tear up an anvil .
Who is "we" ? (Many Americans then didnt like the (halfway or totally communist) ANC/ZANU garbage at all. Only left-wing ones did.)
Very organised and very oppressive
I'm sure I saw our old army green Ford Anglia parked in front on the Bon Marche supermarket.
Mom and dad lived there and many other places being in the BSAP he was moved around alot. Their fondest memories of a beautiful country.
My folks also in BSAPandalsomoved around another. Such a wonderful place to be
UK stabbed it in its back
Labour ruins everything. as usual
Would you have volunteered to go over and fight?
@@oliverford5367 How much ammunition you got spare? because that is really the question.
@@rat_king- after ww2, colonialism was a costly project especially power capital were shifted from London, Paris to Moscow and Washington.
reminds me a lot of videos taken in my town in australia during the same time, down to the climate and roads
*RHODESIA WAS A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY!!!*
Yes, very true: for the privileged white minority.
@@rutasa3182 :
Nah, they worked hard, and saved up for it!
Then creatures like you ruined it! *_>:(_*
@@Dreaded88 Yes we did! We 'ruined' racism, segregation and the oppression of black people. How good is that!!!
All people are equal whether you like it or not. Judging by your choice of words, you don't. Sadly for you the world has moved on. Goodbye sir.
@@rutasa3182 moved on? Degenerated you mean.
@@nolandcharleskinder296 Sorry sir, what was your response to my comment about racism and segregation?
Ahhh, good old Bon Marche & Dairy Den. Now that's memories!
What a beautiful clean country.
Very similar to inland Australian suburbia of the time, with the eucalypts and landscape. California, too, for the same reasons. Cars not so much, maybe.
@@jerrycarrera10 - Australia had its own auto manufacturers then, and America of course. Some overlap with British and European models I guess.
the place looks beautiful very neat and tidy if they only knew what hell awaited them i'm sure all the people that lived in these houses are gone i'd like to a tv crew go to the same area now i bet it wouldn't be a pretty sight now
This place doesn't exist anymore except in the memories of those that lived there. The place now is a dump without any clean running water
please dont come back if you've left and if you haven't please leave
@@tg-us3hw no
what a nice city, i sure do hope they kept up the standard!
If you're interested in getting more up to date, Bram Vermeulen has a series in Dutch (although the Zimbabweans speak English with him, of course), "Dwars door Afrika".
it really was a little london 👏🏿
London is not as beautiful as this.
@@alicem.5779 ohh is it, i have never been to London, we just see videos and images of it
@@munyaradzimasvovera5812
Houses like these in the UK as a whole are owned by people with real money. The majority of people stay in back to back 1 or 2 story houses which were built in the 1900s or earlier than that.
Those houses we see are still there in Zimbabwe, the upkeep and maintenance might have gone down but still an average Londoner will not even dream of buying many of the houses we see in Zimbabwean towns and cities.
Then your kind ruined it.
@@alicem.5779 The buildings in London look better and have much more history but the living conditions are nothing like this.
Thanks for posting. Nice to look back on some of this old footage. Do you know which shopping center this was ?
This reminds me of the horrors that we went through from the hands of the criminal settlers. To them, it reminds them of the good times.
@@naijanistan and now your horrors are a thousand times worse bwaaaahahaha bwaaahahaha
@@E-D-E2704 you can say that again .
The Common Sense Ambassador the horrors u are facing from fellow black rulers is purgatory itself.it has no end and over 5 million black Zimbabweans have fled the hell hole it has become.why are we black Africans so destructive? I just despair.i hope black South Africans do not follow the path the rest of Africa took economically,politically and socially.if they do they will be shooting themselves in the foot.
@@E-D-E2704 Both are bad, get over it
I never knew Zimbabwe looked so much nicer and more affluent than the U.S. in the 60s. It's shocking to see how the country deteriiorated. Sadly, the USA is going on the same path.
This is how and where a tiny tiny minority lived
@@emilegriffith1473 My uncle lived there he said most places where nice, especially the city centres. Rhodesia had a economy the equivalent to New Zealands.
@@dumplingsbig1184 Most places were nice except for all the horrible slums the majority of the nation was forced into
It's not Zimbabwe it is Rhodesia!!
@@strahinjakuresevic6570 It's not 1979 it's 2021.
Have they built any new buildings since this was recorded?
No but they deleted many
Some new buildings have been built with Chinese money. The Sheraton Hotel was built in the mid 80s as was the Karigamombe centre and the Reseve Bank building. The Sports Stadium was also built. By and large though, the layout you see and most of the buildings date from Rhodesia days.
As for Bulawayo, then it's in a time warp as are most of the other places. All that seems to have changed is the condition. Everything looks more run-down.
@@ricot2000 they smell just as bad and like our previous guests, they don't know the meaning of water nor soap.
Yeah Mugabe's blue roof residence.
I have been there several times in the past years. The cities are terrible. . Lost baggage at the airport is recorded in a blank piece of paper and a 10 year old sheet of copy paper produces a duplicate. !! Light bulbs in the international airport are so old and dim inside it's hard to tell day from night. Zero maintenance is apparent on anything in the whole country. God help anybody needing hospital care! Very sad just to think what it was to what it has become. Corruption is almost the only path to succeed in Zimbabwe. I visited schools and can only wonder at the dedication of teachers and staff. Most don't get paid regularly and what they do earn is shockingly low! Thank you Mugabe...... Terrible
Of course, during this era, the Pergasus Building was the tallest. Now it is hardly visible. There are also more residential homes than this era. The only thing that did not develop is the industry and meaningful employment.
Beautiful country built by European settlers in just 90 years and now destroyed sadly
Nostalgia for a haven that no longer exists
Nice. Today is different
The uk " government " stabbed rhodesia in the back , the average uk citizen is innocent dont tar us with the same brush as our government. the average uk citizen had a farm in that country at one point or was in the rhodesian army , huge respect for the people who lived in rhodesia and had to go through those troubled times .
Thank you Soldier Blue! There are so many Rhodesians who are trying to convince the world that Rhodesians aren't and weren't racist.
Your answer proves my case that Rhodesians and
Rhodesian sympathisers are incredibly racist!
Do you think that if Germany had occupied Britain during the second world war, that that would have been acceptable?
On what basis was the German occupation of France during the 2nd world war acceptable?
Can you see my point?
Your answer suggests that you see black people as subhuman: That a black indigenous population should not be seen as the rightful occupiers of their homeland.
As a member of the civilised part of the world, you will no doubt agree that one should treat others as one would want to be treated.
On that basis, the Chinese occupation of Great Britain today would be perfectly acceptable to you! Before you tell me that 'the Chinese already have' I mean a Rhodesian style occupation!
@@rutasa3182 there is so many wrong points in your comment that i carnt even begin to answer them all , i dont think anyone is subhuman i respect all people , the point is , the "white" and black rhodesians fought and died for rhodesian safety and kept the country stable , then after the fall of the government whites were targeted hunted down and either murdered or forced to flee the country. If that is not racism and plain hatred i dont know what is .
@@BlueStarJT You are taking the easy way out Mr Blue and I strongly suspect that if you did have an answer for every one of my 'wrong points' as you call them you would present your evidence to refute my arguments.
I hope people who are seeking to understand the history of Rhodesia will not rely on CZcams comments but...
1. Read historical documents concerning the Rhodesian era.
2. Talk to black Zimbabweans who lived through the era.
3. Talk to non-racist white and black Zimbabweans who are not seeking to rewrite Rhodesia's history.
4. Talk to people from many parts of the world who can testify to the racism and injustice of Rhodesia, many of whom have written books about their lives and experiences in Rhodesia.
5. Judge the failures of Zimbabwe and Rhodesia separately: Mugabe cannot be Rhodesia's defence. If anything Mugabe learnt how to oppress his political opponents from his predecessors!
@@rutasa3182 your smooth talking bullshit carnt help you here my brother , your carnt chop me to death with a machete in the youtube comments , you blatantly ignore my point of whites being murdered ? That is the biggest red flag ? Black and white tried to make a beautiful country whilst dealing with the communists and every other faction and rebels from countries from all sides , my grandfather was a white rhodesian soldier , farm owner , when the government fell , one month later our family had to evacuate because a convoy of 6 vehicles of armed men were coming to murder a d burn the farm down because they refused to leave .
@@BlueStarJT I'm very sorry about your grandfather. Being evacuated must have been very difficult for him and his family. As well as experiencing a devastating loss, it must have also been quite terrifying for them.
Ian Smith was right.
What a beautiful country we had
It wasn't yours to have in the first place
@@tvs9978 How is life in independent Zimbabwe
@@tvs9978 stop acting like your grandparents didn't have a better life in Rhodesia
@@mh7a135 . Rhodesia never existed. It's a figment of your racist imagination.
How green was my valley!
Wonder what those same places look like today....
Probably ruins tbh
Oh yes I recognise those shops on Jameson Ave, and the Dairy Den…
stunning place
Beautiful
Compare now to then and enjoy. You got what you wanted!
No, we didn't get what we wanted but we still hope. Hoping for a prosperous Zimbabwe for all.
By your tone, I suspect that what you want is a return to segregation, white privilege and racism.
@@rutasa3182 you've been listening to too many white SJWs. You should learn to accept diversity. Nothing wrong with whites. Or whites being in power.
@@nolandcharleskinder296 What makes you think that I have a problem with white people being PART OF government?
I referred to RACISM, SEGREGATION and WHITE PRIVILEGE.
It doesn't surprise that you failed to address that.
No bass, sir, me statement is me own statement - no white man give me me statement, bass sir!
@@rutasa3182 many black people had very nice home back then
That was the time when. Rhodesia is under the white 🥺🥺🙏
Are you an idiot?
Ungadai uri kumusha uko😂
A Gem of a place to live....
Interesting. My father was griwing up somewhere in the village at that time. Decades later hed buy a house in the exact same neighbourhood being shown here.
Zimbabwe tried Marxism and learned the hard way
No they let black people get into power
@@100Mmore that also! Lol
@@RK18771 No it was just that, the USSR was still a world power that rivaled the United States until they become more liberal towards the end. Even China and Vietnam made, and is making, massive progress in building their countries.
@@100Mmore I agree but china and vietnam have capitalist economies.
@@RK18771 Capitalism is a necessary step of human economic development, just as the slaving empires of rome, and the monarchies of europe were. China already announced plans to transition to socialism in 2017, that's why there's all this anti-china hysteria going on right now in the MSM.
damn this actually looks nice
Big bungalow borough. And loads of French cars eh?
Nolan Swadds Peugeot made sturdy cars at the time and were popular across africa, even police forces used them.
Nolan Swadds Peugeot made sturdy cars at the time and were popular across africa, even police forces used them.
The French learnt a difficult lesson in Algeria, thankfully sanctions against Rhodesia did not extend to French cars, hence all the Renault's, Peugeot's and the Citroen DS 20 that I saw.
Peugeot 404's were indestructible, many are still use in North Africa, I saw one (504 SW) in Jeddah two years back, still going strong.
@@Predikant They were the backbone of the taxi industry in Uganda back in the 1950's and 60's, till Toyota (HiAce vans) drove into town.
It was still nice
Rhodesia was super!
It does look like a beautiful country, especially those suburbs. But still, the fences and gates around every single home are probably a clue that not everything was alright in Paradise.
Fences are very common in lots of suburban communities around the world. But when combined with gates...probably against animals. It is Africa after all.
@@greggray8034 Given what we know about the history of the country in the time these photos were taken, probably doubtful.
I lived there in the 60s/70s. First of all it was perfectly normal to have chain link metal fences around all the properties. Nobody had the totally open aspect that you see in so many American movies, it was just not done. Some houses as you can see had concrete walls. Burglary was always an issue, as it is in any country where there is a large disparity between the seemingly affluent middle class and the poorer community. All windows had grills, but back then they were only on the opening windows. They were, and still are in southern Africa called burglar bars.
As crime got worse, it became the norm to remove the metal fences and install concrete walls. As it then got far worse, barbed wire or electric fences were added onto the tops of the walls. This is the case in even in the main suburbs in Harare. The window grills progressed too, to the extent that it is normal for the whole window to be covered in an external cage.
None of these fences that you see ever had anything to do with wild animals. It was perfectly possible to spend your whole life there and never see a wild animal - they were only to be found in the game parks or out in the remote rural areas.
Oh, and yes, it was indeed a beautiful country. There are other videos on CZcams, some purport to show what 'normal' Rhodesian life was like. Typically these show by far the most affluent areas and give the impression that the residents spent all their time poolside! Totally misleading.
@@tigershoot Thank you for this information.
@@greggray8034 , they were against animals indeed. 😏
Which surburbs is shown here. Maybe Eastlea or Hatfield perhaps
At 4:25, what kind of car is that? Make, model? It has an unusual design.
It's a Renault 6. Due to sanctions, Britain did not supply cars to Rhodesia so the French picked up the demand and sold their cars to the country like hot cakes! Renault 4s were used as taxis and were everywhere. Peugeots were very popular too.
@@tigershoot Good information. Thanks.
It was a nice place to live.
Did you here that it no longer rains? #thankyouzanupf#
I once saw a weather report on TV news that it snowed there, around 10 years ago.
The SR sticker on one of the cars, was this to signify Southern Rhodesia?
Yes
Clean streets No crime
not really, there was more crime then you would think, the policing was not at all great, and white people could get away with lots, for instance my Dad used to steal random cars in the street and take them to the derelict racetrack at the bottom of his road and have drag races without having to worry about policing, but my Grandad did get put in jail for a year or so
@@noahdanonce564 im in italy and this sort of things in the 60's were normal (as my father says), there was a lot of stealing cars parts..
There is more crime in SA than Zim
@@noahdanonce564 many black people had very nice home back then
A lot of crime yeah, if you mean beheadings, shootings, explosions, terrorist attacks from the natives. Yeah, it happened ALL. THE. TIME in RHODESIA! Crime was RAMPANT, the Natives were savage.
How come no audio??
Did anyone else watch this while playing John Edmond's "Salisbury Town" in the background?
For what it was worth, when Zimbabwe finally gets out of the mess it was put in, hopefully it gets to a point where there’ll be footage of Harare over a nearly ten year period like this
maybe when pigs fly
Harare was a suburb of Salisbury when I lived there, 1965-1966. Harare was the name of the Leprosy Hospital.
Stay free. R 🕊
Top of the world
It looks a lot like Penrith in NSW!
ConqueringCaffeine it’s better than penrith lol
Those houses remind me of places that I have seen here in Australia ! I guarantee they're black ghettos now ! May the memory of rhodesia live forever ! I wish I'd been able to live there in that era ! 👌👍💖
@@mrx-gn2zj they are not, that is where the rich government elite lives in.
They put up walls around all the houses now
Do you know of a place called Cronulla?
here in britain we got that degredation to look forward to its already happening its multiculturism
Good luck
For the homes shown at 2:28 onwards, how much did they cost at the time, and what were the occupations of the people who owned them? Was the Rhodesian husband the sole breadwinner in those days while the wife was the homemaker?
The houses shown were the homes of moderately prosperous members of the white population. Elsewhere in the city, some Asians also had similar homes and a few black businessmen had similar (and larger) houses in Harare, an African township on the southern fringe of Salisbury. After Mugabe came to power, the township's name was of course given to the whole city. Finally, some married white women were housewives but many others earned a living.
YEA THATS THE LIFE WE SHOULD HAVE NOT THE CURRENT RUBBISH
Nice Renault 16 at @ 4.24
No sound
Which suburb is this ?
Thats Eastlea shops
Rightly put.
How is life in independent Zimbabwe ???
Legit better than Modern day America (living wise.. and in other ways too.)
minute 7 Eastlea shops in Harare. still looks the same
Where's the Leprosy Hospital?
Where are the suburbs of Harari, Highfield, Mufakose, Kambuzuma, Mabvuku and Rugare????
Hidden for a good reason
Video called Salisbury and suburbs, you can't read or what?
We lived in Braintree avenue
It WAS an insanely place to live.
if you were white lol
@@methembethomastshuma9587 How is life in independent Zimbabwe
@@methembethomastshuma9587 is black people living any better ?
AS MINHAS MEMÓRIAS
Looks like some city in Australia
Was it a colony still
It was completely self-governing from 1923 onwards.
brainwashed?
06:39 does he actually live there?
He's a servant.
@@glendodds3824 How is life in independent Zimbabwe ?
It went from this to a country with a trillion dollar bill. What a shame.
The beautiful Rhodesia that belonged to Yts. How about the one for the blacks?
Южная Родезия ❤. Нам не говорили всю правду о Южной Родезии в СССР. Я русский. Из России с любовью . ❤
All this just for the chosen few ,and thats what caused all the mess that Zimbabwe is today Truth be Told!!!!!!!!
You are very right
Rhodesia will never die!!!!
If only ww2 was prevented or ww1 or completely both colonies of empires would eventually lead to prosperity.
the reason blacks rebelled was because they were pressed and marginalised, if the colonies had prioritised equality and inclusion, there would have been less anger towards being colonised.
@@tg-us3hw How is life in independent Zimbabwe
@@sansan2591 better for black people than rhodesia, thnks
Colonialism ruined many countries. Zimbabwe is different as they tried Marxism after decolonization.
and another bites the dust🤫🤫🤫
So sad!
The irony was on Great Britain. Despite the sanctions, economic blockade to sabotage Rhodesia, Rhodesia continued to exist and at one time became the breadbasket of Africa
I bet none of this exists today and it was replaced by mud huts and trash fields... All thanks to black peepo.
I can not wait for these former colonial settlers from the Paleolithic era in the comment section reminiscing about the good ol' days when "everyone knew their place" to finally decompose into historical oblivion
Decompose like Zimbabwe’s economy?
2:50 Very big and beautiful houses. I truly wish to travelling to the past to living there
It's extremely disappointing, that we blacks failed to maintain the standards and even improve them for all citizens after 1980. 43 years on my country is in a mess. 😢
When uu start to wish that I wish things juss stayed the same during the days where black ppl where suppressed that's when uu know we are suffering it's juss sad 😑
Munday drive hillside salisbury and hillside school can't find due to name change from Mugabe
That's because it's Mundy Drive. Still there as are most of the suburb street names. Are you thinking of Eastridge school in Hillside?
Please educate me…. Why did people chose to get rid of British ruling when they managed to establish such a beautiful country It looks better than Poland looked is 60s I have been to Zimbabwe on 2019, it is so poor and so run down Gosh….
I believe it was because of segregation and not allowing one man one vote. But I've always felt that Rhodesia should have continued. Eventually the restrictions would have been eased and the country would be much better off today. For everyone.
Shame of Great Britain and all those Western nations who brought this great nation to an end.
This place needs the firm rule of the nobel white man.
they don't deserve us.
'Noble'. Whatever: *The Heart Of Darkness. The White Man's Burden.*
Ungadai ur kumusha uko😂
Thats Eastlea Harare, captivating. Makes us realise how dirty we have become as a people and a society. We are now fiithy pigs, careless with no sense of beauty, only concerned about whereto get the next dollar
African suburbs hidden for a good reason.....
RHODESIA NOT ZIMBABWE
It was never and will never be Rhodesia. Suck it up
It was when it functioned.