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- Ray Lewis doesn't like most offensive players, but there is one player who he respected.
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Ray Lewis explains why he dislikes offensive players | THE HERD
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Imagine how the offensive line feels. They don't even get stats.
Ok? But every football fan knows the offensive line is the most important position group in football. They get recognition for good play from QBs and RBs. I played CB and FS myself and even I can acknowledge the game doesnt work without linemen, and you cant win a single game without your oline doibg SOMETHING for you
Zaddy oline and RB i think he's calling our wrs and te's
Yes they do. Pancakes, and times they allowed a QB to get sacked
They get Rolex watches from the RB when they have a good season.
But guess what they get paid millions of dollars to play in the NFL
"defensive players are only harder to rate if you don't pay attention to them."
Best quote of the clip.
Alex Charles I actually think Colin is right to an extent. With offensive players that aren't lineman, you can pull up like 40 individual stats that judge how good or efficient or whatever they are. For a defender, you have to take the word of a person you're arguing against that they're great in man or zone coverage and that they always fill the right gap in a running play or whatever, because you don't have statistics for successful a gaps closed.
Daniel Daw or you can watch them and see for yourself. If he covers a man to the point that the qb doesn't even throw on that side of the field, thats proof. Watch him fill the A gap. I can tell you that this guy is a great runner but until you watch him run you wouldn't know either.
It's harder to take notice because people love action. A great defensive player doing his job well will get very little action because he's stopping his man on every play. Like Ray said you have to take as a defensive player. If you want to be in the highlights you have to get diving interceptions of a ball that wasn't ment for you and run it in for 6. Or a fumble whatever. Even 3 and slot receivers have it easier for highlights because even they get chances at TDs
Ray Lewis is right on the money. In 2000, everybody knew that Ray was the best player in the NFL. He was Defensive Player of the Year, the leader of one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history, and led the Ravens to a 12-4 record despite having a mediocre-at-best offense. And yet he only got one MVP vote that year.
j.j watt better imo
+elchucofried what does watt have to do with his statement???
watt has a mvp he's better than ray Lewis
Have another drink...
Sounds familiar. Go Broncos, go Von.
He got a point championship are won in the trenches
Trey Bens did you need him to tell you that ?
#LakeShow #GoPats be nice
Trench gang
StephBetter well he is a HOF football player , how else do you learn about sports except from people who played the game
This past season would beg to differ
I could listen to ray lewis talk about football all day
Thaman2x facts
If I were an NFL GM or major college AD, I’d always have this man’s number on speed dial for whenever he feels ready to be a LB coach or a DC.
I’m a Steelers fan, and listening to Ray Lewis talk is elegant
Amen bro
Thaman2x 8 u stealing
Ray Lewis as a GM- "Alright, the team is set." some assistant "But Ray, we have nobody on Offense. Everyone on the team is on Defense and Special Teams." "Yeah. didn't really like anyone on Offense."
Brendan Woods underrated quote you're the mvp
Then he would "but its okay"
I can't get enough of Ray Lewis, incredible stuff
Enjoyed listening to that. I would like to hear more of that type of discussion.
CB is probably one of the hardest position to play
Fug Babylon 2nd hardest position on the planet
You mean QB?
I would say safety, gotta cover like a corner and hit like a line breaker
Backer
Least respected oline
*Talking to Ray Lewis
Colin: Let's say that you're a linebacker
LOL bruh that was hilarious
Hilarious!!
Lewis has a point, I played D Line very angry. That chip on defensive players' shoulders is real. If you sort of do your job there's nothing to congratulate you. Big hits, fumbles, sacks, loss of yards, you do need to TAKE it in order to get recongized
Think about William the refrigerator Perry. Defensive player. But all these years later, we talk about him, from maybe the best defense in the entire history of the sport, because of a few offensive highlights. The idea that hall of famers were on that team and the person people gravitated most on the national level for a period was Perry because he played FB or caught a pass is just exasperating.
shout out to offensive lineman. Ray is right on when it comes to offense vs defense. but at least defensive players get tackle highlights. the only thing offensive lineman get is yelled at for a single bad play in an entire game.
offensive lineMen and Defensive Linemen Get no love,.. there the core unsung heroes.. Ray Lewis knows it's true..
in my middle school team I'm a line man and when a runner gets a touch down they don't come to the line man and congratulate him they love on the runner even though he was untouched the entire run I wonder why certainly not the line men doing good who cares about them right
@Nightt HAwkk
Defensive line actually gets clout.
Offensive line doesn’t.
JJ WATT had 5 touchdowns and 20+ sacks in one season and still finished 2nd in the overall MVP race!!
defensive players get no love
Den
klaw547 it could also be that Texans didn't make playoffs. How can u be MVP n your team didn't make playoffs. Just saying
Because the award isn't about team wins, it's about an individual player's value to his particular team. I argue that players that get hurt and then their once mighty teams take visible steps backward, like when JJ Watt goes down for the Texans or Derek Carr goes down for the Raiders, truly show their value and deserve the award than the popularity contest it has turned into.
Izzy Cuffy it’s Most Valuable Player, not Most Valuable Team.
One offensive player can change a team, one defensive player can’t
Pizza man sam. I think theres a guy named Mavck out in Chi town who who may make your statement incorrect
Defensive players lives matter 😕
defense is way more fun too
All players lives matter 😏😏
If u said this in 2020 people wud be triggered
There's something about how he answers every question, like he's trying to give a life lesson or motivational talk, can't quite pin point it
Really annoying
He’s passionate. But it can get annoying...
He talks a lot like a preacher because he’s a very religious guy.
Ray Lewis really should be a motivational speaker, just the way he talks and the passion he brings about subjects that matter to him really could motivate and inspire many people, not just young defensive players like myself, I learned football watching him, he really is motivational and influential. He deserves his spot in Canton.
I have the same beliefs about world football (soccer) it's all about what you do when you don't have the ball. I'm glad that this is an attitude that'll help me understand NFL football more. Defense Wins Championships in almost any sport.
Exactly. Defenders like Pique and holding midfielders like Casemiro don't really get the credit they deserve. Attacking players get all the glory.
Christian V. Let me ask you something what do you think about JJ Watt?
i also play soccer and what you said is 1000% right. i tell my teamates all the time. what you do without the ball is the most important part of the game. wheter it's pressure,covering or being active and getting open.it's what makes you win. if you are walking around the field we are dead
Karl Sylvain I feel like it's worse than when I was younger. The media and most of the fans have 0 appreciation for defending. What they don't realise is most team are not elite until you have 2 great centre backs with great chemistry.
Like look at 2013 vs 2015 broncos fr
IMO, the best players in the league are on the defensive side of the ball, because the Offense has every single advantage & Defensive players still find a way to make plays & dominate.
Von Miller, Luke Kuechely, Patrick Peterson, JJ Watt, Richard Sherman, Aaron Donald, Aqib Talib & guys like that are more impressive than the offensive players that have the rules slanted in their favor.
Defensive linemen have the advantage over o linemen. The only think o linemen have is when the ball is going to be snapped. But even then defensive line men are faster and quicker which is why o linemen focus on feet. The oline is restricted to putting their hands in about a 15in area. Defensive linemen have no such restrictions except for the face mask which applies to everyone any way.
You forgot my main man underrated Jaimie collins. He should be put on the same level categories as those guys. He's fluid on the defensive side of the ball.
I don't know about advantages. You play a team that you have scouting reports on that run the same scheme for as long as the Offensive coordinator has and vice versa. Offensive lineman are the most over looked position in the game. Why? Cause we block all day long. D linemen get the glory and fame with a big hit or tackle for loss like J.J watt. But have an o lineman stop J.J watt all game and you hear nothing. Cowboys o linemen are a great example. Ezekiel wouldn't be as dominant with out them. And I am a raiders fan by the way
Julio is better
Sean Lee was the real MVP last year.
For the record, there are two players who have been voted MVP as defensive players. Alan Page and Lawrence Taylor. Ray is right, though, defensive players don't get nearly enough recognition.
KILLER statement Ray
This guy is really well spoken, knows his football clearly
Yea he's pretty well spoken.. for a MURDERER
It's Ray Lewis, not just a random guy lol
Prolly cause he played the sport
jeremy dudding He got cleared but alright
@@jeremydudding1085 Not a murderer. Clearly you know nothing about his case.
when i played football in HS i didn't like the offensive players as well, as a linebacker i hated and wanted them destroyed lol in a football sense
Why do you think Nick Saban’s teams Bellichick, Parcells, Dungy were so good. They are defensive minded coaches. They were DCs then became head coaches keeping defense as the main focus of the team in regards to drafts and schemes.
Belichik not so much anymore!
i love listening 👂 and essentially downloading these great football minds into my own
As a skills position guy its so intresting hearing him talk about linemen and linebacker lingo!
This talk gives me goose bumps; love it
As a tight end I completely agree with everything Ray said.
This makes me think back to HS Football; there's no greater camaraderie than playing on defense.
That defense was incredible. I believe he got mvp in 2000? And Ed Reed got mvp either the year before or year after only time thats ever happened. Back to back defensive mvp same team. Maybe even back to back same team im not sure. I'm a steelers fan too lol but that was a great time in football
"Ray lewis dislikes offensive players"
That explains why he hit them so hard, hmmmmmmmm
defensive players are becoming more noticeable today as in the early cowboys, the Seahawks, broncos, Panthers,Pats, Bangels are damm good!
Him giving props to Dawson was so beautiful
Shout out to perhaps the greatest center of all-time, Dermotti Dawson.
"No its ok" 😂😂😂 killed me
“I think normans a better db than odell is receiver” - cold takes
Yeah rip to that
Now you know why hes one of the greatest not just good knowledgeable and smart on the field💯💵💰
He is absolutely correct, I NEVER even thought it it like that before.
The only offensive players you should like and respect the mose are the O line.
Enjoyed this very much
Watching this stoned it's the best
“Let’s say you’re a linebacker”
Good analogy Colin.
The NFL has handicapped the defense everyway possible outside of just removing them from the field. I hate Tom Brady. He's not the best to ever play his position. He just benefited from all the rule changes ( The Tuck rule and hitting a QB below the knees ) and Bill Polian and the Colts crying because his receivers weren't good enough to get off the line ( Against the Patriots ). 300 yard passing games used to mean something. Dan Marino's 5000 yards passing in one season was a record that stood for over 30 years. Now Drew Brees not only broke his record but he has thrown for 5000 yards for numerous seasons. The game is watered down. There are way to many penalties. No more hard hits. Its a shame because people like myself who really love this game have seen what the league has done and are saddened by this.
100% agree. Defense has been hobbled. Hits allowed 10-15 years ago would have been fines + suspensions nowadays. People need to just understand it's a violent sport when you get to that level, no matter what injuries will happen.
I admit that I've enjoyed watching guys like Brees put on an offensive show, but lately watching high-powered offenses has gotten kinda boring. I've barely even cared enough to watch Raiders, Falcons, Packers, or Patriots highlights for the past few weeks.
But even with the league being more offense friendly, defenses are somehow still thriving. S48 saw the Legion of Boom manhandle the Broncos supposed greatest offense in NFL history lead by Peyton Manning and S50 saw Cam Newton getting swarmed by the No Fly Zone. Probably goes to show that no matter how much the rules change to favor the offense more, defenses will still find a way to pull through
Sean Dupree so it's better for u to be entertained than for the players be able to think decently when they're in their 50's
+Zac5Jacobs I look at like this. I played rec league , hs , and I was going to play football for Bowie so basically I've been around this game most of my life. No one forced me to play and I knew the consequences from playing this game. These are adults!!! Grown men and not children who have made a conscious decision to play football. No one is forcing them and they know the dangers of playing this game.
Sean Dupree I agree with u and I do feel like sometimes they are too soft but like the rules can't be like they used to be
Deion Sanders is looking like name a receiver other than Jerry Rice during my playing time more popular than me? 😎
I could listen to this man talk for all day.
KILLER ANSWERS
KILLER GUEST
nice work
Offensive line, coaches, and linebackers win football games
Yeah but QB's are most important
Don’t forget defensive backs
bordercity kid1999 no...the team wins football games and it takes good leadership (key players/coaching) to put the final pieces in the puzzle (chemistry)
Ray Lewis, the greatest defensive player of all time, and a great guy
i can watch and listen to ray all dam day
I just like how Ray talks, I'm tuned in every time
RICO EAB 2 Gaming He is a very intelligent man. I’m also pretty sure he’s a killer.
@@Heliosphan33 Iol im pretty sure he is not a killer #facts
Ive always liked defense positions in the NFL over offense. If I had the chance to go back in time I would have trained to play a DB position as I got older
I could listen to Ray Lewis all day man. He has my eternal respect.
Great insight Ray. Thanks.
Dosent matter how good your secondary is if your d-line can’t pressure the qb...it dosent matter how good your receivers are if your o-line dosent give the qb enough time to throw, the linemen both sides of the ball are the 2nd most important thing in football besides the qb
The hardest positions to play are on the defense, when you have the ball you already have a biased advantage. IMO defensive players are more athletic, cornerbacks are the hardest position to play.
Ryder Washington ok corner is not the hardest let’s get it right linebackers are the hardest
@@chaotic_shadow590 CB is the hardest position.....
@@chaotic_shadow590 linebacker is pretty straight forward
Not necessarily, but I give you this, safeties and corners have a physical disadvantage in the nfl due to talent at the reciever position.
Idk if it’s because I’m a Vikings fan but I’ve always respected and loved defensive players. And Ray Lewis was one of the best
much respect shouting out dawson stand up steelernation
Ray Lewis is one of the GOAT!
I feel like its not only harder to grade defensive players, but defense is also more of a unit and relies on all of its players, which makes it harder to pick one as the MVP of the whole league. Whilst on offense one player can carry the whole offense and do well, even if the rest of their offense is bad
so true
Dropping knowledge
I watch only CZcams videos. I think cameras are shooting defense well. So I can see what defense players are doing somewhat well as a beginner fan.
"I like a lot of guys, man" - Ray Lewis, 2016
Ray Lewis is a library of knowledge what he said about angles can transfer to any sport
Dude killed this interview.
I wish he would be the D- coordinator for jackson state.
Deon and him coaching college athletes would be insane
I'm from Baltimore and we LOVE our Ray Ray. Man how we miss his leadership. That's why our defenses though still pretty good are not dominant anymore. We don't have that leader like Ray Lewis
Legendary
as a Steelers fan, I have a lot of respect for RL and always did. it wouldn't have been the rivalry without him.
OBJ is too much of a pretty boy.
That’s the same in other sports too like soccer. In the history of the Balon Dor Award (equivalent to the MVP) there has only ever been 3 defensive players who won the award in the last 68 years. Even though there have been great teams based on defence.
Love to listen to ray talk football. ..he's like a professor
I’m a WR and a FS
Ray giving Dermontti props, thats whats up. Real recognize real.
If Ray would have retired just 1 year earlier ... Flacco never would have gotten that contract.
The shock in his voice lmfao
I thought Ray Lewis would say his best friend on offense is Steve Smith Sr
He’s also acknowledged extreme respect for Eddie George because Eddie was the biggest baddest RB he ever played and he said himself that when he played that 6’4” 240lb cornfed Midwestern RB he had to really bring it or get ran over
Agreed.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Rams v Patriots Superbowl.
Everybody was talking about how bad the offences were.
All I could see was brilliant defence. Sadly unrecognised by the pundits.
I would love to see him as a defensive coordinator
He has to have a special love for Bettis and Hines Ward.
Them boys are defensive players, on offense.
Beautiful.
ray speaking facts. defense doesn't show up in the analytics and stats, but most games come down to making a play inside the hashs
How do Offensive lineman get stats I always wondered because WRs have RAC and TDs, RBs have rushing yards and TDs, QBs have passing yards and TDs, DBs have tackles,Interceptions and pass break ups and force fumbles, D-lineman have sacks, tackle for loss, and fumbles but O-lineman have nothing that I kno🤷🏾♂️
DC yungin pancakes and sacks. Some people say snaps played is a snap cause of how many snaps you play can determine why u let up this amount of sacks or this amount of pancakes
Corner is by far the hardest position to play, you either get beat or a PI
Colin is really good. Hitting the a-gap can be the equivalent of threading the needle on a good pass. A good block shed can be the equivalent of a good juke. Defense just doesnt get its due.
what about the o line
He really murdered this interview.
Yet again Ray nails it. My tackles in my first 3 years of college broke my team's record. Senior year, only play action screens came my way.
LMAO Norman is better than ObJ? Guy waddled in relative obscurity until last year and now he's some great player? I watched plenty of Carolina games before last year and there were QBS TORCHING that secondary with regularity. Teams putting up yards and points like no tommorow through the air. Norman needs a particular system and of course the surrounding peices to be what he was and he still isn't on Peterson, Sherman, Harris, Talib or Revis league.
And this is coming from a Pats fan. The fuck is Colin On? Beckham even murdered him when they played. Two drops took away a 2ND TD.
dont you think he all of a sudden started dropping passes for some reason
Boyo 2 passes LOL. He touched him
***** yeah but norman got in objs head bet that's why he was dropping passes
Obj is a lil buttburt kid
Defensive players dont win MVP for a few reasons. They dont accrue stats the same way, which makes them harder to compare. They are judged as a unit more frequently. It is very difficult for an individual defensive player to take over a game like a quarterback or running back can.
Real talk big Lewis
Defense should get points and the game would change. People would love Defense.
3 & Out = 1
Sacks = 2
Interceptions = 3
Goal line stand = 4
Safety = 5
While game would change. Defense would be Heroes and super stars. Why has no one ever thought of this. I'm a genius. Lol
Defense is a lot harder to play and a lot more pressure is on them. The defense also can’t afford to make mistakes unlike the offense. The offense can go 3 and out and it’s ok cuz our defense will get us back the ball. But if the defense makes a mistake and doesn’t do their job it’s a touchdown. The offense knows the play. The defense has to react to the play. Defense rarely gets glory and highlights. All the cool and spectacular plays are on offense-with a few exceptions of course. All-in-all defense wins championships so there you go.
every super bowl team has a defense And without that you want win bottom line
I played line on both sides. I respected other linemen. No one else.
Kuechly is the only player IMO that could've thrived back in the day. Zach Thomas type player, with more speed and coverage ability. An expert at getting to the football and diagnosing plays as they happen, that kid is special. Many other positions are way too soft, and please can we cut it out with the CB discussion. There is a new great corner every year in this league apparently. Last year it was norman, year before it was butler, before that it was sherman, before that revis. CB's nowadays are so replaceable and once you start paying them big money, the other pieces start dropping off.
miss Ray on our defense
"it all begins and ends on the offensive line" john madden
Sacks , Asst Sacks & Tackles , Solo Tackles , Ints , Fumbles , Tackles for loss
Pretty easy to quantify