Prof. Alexis Sanderson: Śāktism among the Śaivas (part 1)

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    "Śāktism among the Śaivas" (part 1)
    Prof. Alexis Sanderson
    - first 31 min: historical survey, rise of Śaivism
    - 31:00 lay vs. initiatory Śaivism (forms of Śaivism)
    - 34:00 atimārga, mantramārga, and kulamārga
    - 36:00 atimārga I - II - III
    - 49:30 mantramārga: saiddhāntika vs. non-saiddhāntika divisions
    - 56:20 kulamārga
    These lectures will give an account of the history and role of Śāktism, notably of the Trika and Krama, among the Śaivas of Kashmir from the ninth to thirteenth centuries, presenting these developments in the broader context of the history of Śaivism in the early medieval period.
    The handout can be downloaded from our Śākta Traditions website under Prof Sanderson's lecture: saktatraditions...
    Please be aware of small corrections in relation to this handout made in the lecture (see part 2 of the lecture, 51:27).
    Subscribe to get updates on the following lectures in this series.

Komentáře • 49

  • @Revolvingsound
    @Revolvingsound Před 3 lety +13

    thank you, professor Sanderson for another excellent lecture. Your work, dedication, scholarship, and thoughts have influenced generations of scholars of tantra and continue to do so. With all best wishes

  • @brunoalexandrevileladasilv1163

    Thank you very much OCHS for making this amazing lecture available online, and also to Prof.Sanderson for sharing his immense years of deep research and knowledge with the public.

  • @SethLigo
    @SethLigo Před 3 lety +5

    What an age -- never thought I'd see Sean Connery introduce a lecture by Philip Pullman.
    But in seriousness, increased accessibility to work like this is one of the few silver linings of the current pandemic. Many thanks to all those who helped make this happen.

  • @JanardhanPrasadDVS
    @JanardhanPrasadDVS Před 3 lety +6

    A wonderful presentation by Prof. Alexis Sanderson. I salute him. He not only narrated the origins and evolution of Tantric creeds based on Saktaism and Shaivism but also investigated overseas links to Sakta and Shaiva. I do not want to go into the merits of his conclusions. A person who is not a Hindu born and sitting in thousands of kilometers away, studying Indian scriptures is marvelous indeed. And commendable job.

  • @yehudahhachassid6191
    @yehudahhachassid6191 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you for a very interesting lecture on the ancient sakta traditions of India.

  • @ardaraith
    @ardaraith Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for making this wealth available!

  • @jpkingsbury
    @jpkingsbury Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing this incredible knowledge and scholarship. The summary of evidence, or lack thereof of antiquity of Siva worship is really welcomed.

  • @paulgerstmayr1882
    @paulgerstmayr1882 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you to the OCHS for uploading this wonderful lecture!
    For those viewing it later, the following notes with rough indications of time may prove helpful:
    - first 31 min: historical survey, rise of Śaivism
    - 31:00 lay vs. initiatory Śaivism (forms of Śaivism)
    - 34:00 atimārga, mantramārga, and kulamārga
    - 36:00 atimārga I - II - III
    - 49:30 mantramārga: saiddhāntika vs. non-saiddhāntika divisions
    - 56:20 kulamārga

    • @HinduStudies
      @HinduStudies  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, Paul. I will copy it to the description :)

  • @Johnnyredtail
    @Johnnyredtail Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you professorr Sanderson. Always a pleasure to hear your work.

  • @christopherwallis751
    @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +6

    Still no handout? Prof. Sanderson promised "much more detail" there. thanks

    • @HinduStudies
      @HinduStudies  Před 3 lety +4

      Dear Christopher, I just got it and will upload it together with the second lecture tomorrow. I promise you, it was worth the wait!

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +4

      @@HinduStudies I knew it would be!! thank you!!

    • @desertportal353
      @desertportal353 Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Christopher - sincere thanks for all your work in this area as well. Your books (several I own) and videos here are priceless.

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety

      @@desertportal353 thank you kindly! feel free to subscribe to my CZcams channel as well if you like.

    • @aparnamisra8761
      @aparnamisra8761 Před rokem

      @@HinduStudies Is there a possibility of accessing the handouts now?

  • @murrik
    @murrik Před 3 lety +1

    Whahw, thanks! Need to rewatch it more often.

  • @tracilaird
    @tracilaird Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this!

  • @stefchollet
    @stefchollet Před 3 lety

    thank you for sharing

  • @MrMonkeytailspin
    @MrMonkeytailspin Před 3 lety

    Please publish the shirasccheda transcript for those who will benefit.

  • @prakashlb2984
    @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +6

    Why Oxford interpret Shiva lingam as phallic symbol,as per shivisam philosophy there is no relevance or requirements of phalic worship ,

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +5

      I don't think there can be any doubt about this matter if you examine the iconographic evidence:
      www.google.com/search?q=gudimalla+linga&oq=gudimalla+linga&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i457j0i13.7485j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    • @prakashlb2984
      @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety

      @@christopherwallis751 iam asking about philosophical and necessity for Shivisam to follow phallic worship and in Linga purana and agni purana it is clearly mention as opposite to Phallic emblem it mention shiva lingam as piller of fire

    • @prakashlb2984
      @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +1

      @@christopherwallis751 so clearly two views are there for same emblem why present only one view

    • @prakashlb2984
      @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +1

      @@christopherwallis751 and one more point i want to bring to your notice no ware in Vedas, Upanishads and agamas of shivisam,and philosophical works of Pasupathas,Kashmiri,saiva siddhantha,veera siva. and works of adi shankara ,sudarsanacharya,and Ramanuja,and vidyaranya, it is mentioned saivas worship phallic emblem or need to worship phallic emblem etc not there .
      There may be some sects might have worshipped phallic emblem later merged with shivisam so how far it is perfect and correct to interpret Shivlingam as phallic emblem?

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +1

      @@prakashlb2984 I don't think there can be any doubt about this matter if you examine the iconographic evidence:
      www.google.com/search?q=gudimalla+linga&oq=gudimalla+linga&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i457j0i13.7485j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  • @prakashlb2984
    @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +5

    Why professor not mentioned about Shiva and Hara and Rudra in Swetswara Upanishad

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +1

      prakash, only Rudra is mentioned in the Svetāśvatara Up., which as Sanderson has shown, is very likely influenced by the Pāśupata-sūtra.

    • @prakashlb2984
      @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +2

      @@christopherwallis751 i think once check it ,it is clearly mentioned in Sveta seara Upanishad Ch 4:versa14,16,18 clearly mentioned name Shiva for supreme soul .
      16. He who knows Siva (the blessed) hidden in all beings, like the subtile film that rises from out the clarified butter 3, alone enveloping everything,--he who knows the god, is freed from all fetters.
      17. That god, the maker of all things, the great Self 4, always dwelling in the heart of man, is perceived by the heart, the soul, the mind 5;--they who know it become immortal.
      18. When the light has risen 6, there is no day, no night, neither existence nor non-existence 7; Siva (the blessed) alone is there. That is the eternal, the adorable light of Savitri 8,--and the ancient wisdom proceeded thence
      Max muller translation i attached for your reference

    • @christopherwallis751
      @christopherwallis751 Před 3 lety +3

      @@prakashlb2984 thanks, Max Muller is not reliable really, and I can read the original Sanskrit anyway. Just haven't looked at that Upanishad for a while. The point is that it is very likely influenced by the Pāśupata-sūtra, so it is not as old as previously thought.

    • @prakashlb2984
      @prakashlb2984 Před 3 lety +5

      @@christopherwallis751 then why don't you or other scholars , not produced any paper stating svetaswara upanishad and it's relation to pasupatha sects etc ,almost more than 100years oriental scholars doing research and translating Svetaswara upanishad no one claimed like you said svetaswar upanishad is influenced by pasupatha sect.all the best if you can prove it and produce article until then the works of max muller,paul dussen,edward Gough, Robert Hume etc and with respect to shivisam lots of work done by Gavin flood etc and we will take them as base .

  • @saffiyehbrandhijaffer-mcne2800

    The poles that early shaivites were noted to carry were none other than Chillums - that is to say , Pipes used to smoke Bhang , a type of marijuana.

  • @shreekrishnayog3291
    @shreekrishnayog3291 Před 3 lety +1

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉

  • @sudhirbansal4647
    @sudhirbansal4647 Před 3 lety

    How can we get copies of handouts

    • @HinduStudies
      @HinduStudies  Před 3 lety

      They can be downloaded from this site: saktatraditions.org/sakta-traditions-online-lecture-series-mt20/

  • @raghavarvoltore6517
    @raghavarvoltore6517 Před 3 lety

    Sounds like Shashi