Coco Gauff Serve Analysis- She Needs Work Done On Her Serve!
Vložit
- čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
- I just came from Indian Wells 2024 and was able to see players in person including Coco Gauff. What do you think of Coco Gauff's tennis serve? Let us know in the comments below!
Our FREE private tennis lesson library: performanceplustennis.com/?ff...
_____________________________________
🎾Subscribe To Our Channel: czcams.com/users/PerformancePl...
✅Exclusive Content: www.performanceplustennis.com
🎥Video Analysis: performanceplustennis.com/per...
📱Instagram: / performanceplustennis
#PerformancePlusTennis #PPT #John Craig - Sport
Another nice analysis, John. Your point about the contact point needing to be a little more to her left is. spot on. But look at it another way. My understanding is that Internal Shoulder Rotation (ISR) contributes as much as 40% to the speed of a great serve. Notice how Coco's racket shaft is almost perfectly vertical. The contribution of ISR to the speed of the serve is directly proportional to the the distance the contact point is (in Coco's case) to the left of the vertical line through her wrist or maybe even her shoulder. If the racket shaft is vertical the contribution to speed from rotataing the racket face with ISR would be zero. It's really amazing that she hits the ball as fast as she does with this contact point. I look forward to seeing yoru response. PS: I love your point about the left hand being visible to the right of the body on the follow through. I always video side on and from the rear. That gives me another simple clue to look for when trying to analyze serves.
You people sound a little jealous to me. You're always trying to start something that's not warranted.
A
I thought the same thing watching Rome tennis. She is definitely pulling her head left than down. Your head is one of the heaviest part of the body. When her head goes left and down, the ball hits the net. We were taught to hug ourselves on the serve, but modern tennis serves look more like Dominic Theim with both arms on right side after the ball is struck.
Nice video John. Ignore the folks arguing that top people in their sport don’t need any training or critique. All of the greats were constantly being coached and trying to improve. Even #1’s and goats
Well said!
Can you analyze Rybakina’s serve too? I noticed she also fall to her left but maybe not as severely as Coco.
💞🦾👍WAY TO GO COCO 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice pickup on the foot up early. That’s something I have to fight myself. I don’t see a problem with the left leaning. It is definitely more than typical for elite servers but she’s just tossing a bit far to the right for the motion. Jo Konta had a very similar lean. The arm angle relative to the shoulder is well within the acceptable range. Having the arm too steep relative to the shoulder tends to cause arm problems. JMO, but everybody’s arm has an angle it naturally moves best at and the body leans to adjust to that angle. Most would be surprised to see that Tim Lincecum, one of the most overhand pitchers, making it similar to a serve, leaned considerably and had very similar arm to shoulder angles to Coco. On the other extreme, Don Sutton also threw overhand but with a very steep arm angle resulting in very little lean. That must have been natural for him because he managed to throw fairly hard over a long career with an arm angle that would have destroyed most arms.
Your suggestion of watching the ball toss coming out the hand might help . Also it doesn’t look like she watching the actual contact . She really looks off balance. Having the weight on the back foot when I release the toss has really helped my toss placement . I have been working on pointing the racquet pointingforward on the takeback and bringing it up instead pointing it down on the takeback . It seems many of the top pros are doing this. It gives me a stronger weight transfer . I’ve learned a lot from your lessons .
Brad Gilbert wrote in Winning Ugly that while tossing, if you looking for the writing on the ball, that should help you keep your head up and be more vertical as you are serving; it will help you watch the actual contact.
Excellent. She’s gotta listen to the master of serve
She doesn't have to do anything, but continue to play hard and effective.
@@cccro6228 for real 👍 I don't understand these analysts critiquing a successful, professional players game that is ranked #3 in the world, has won a Grand Slam, is successful in doubles and has already made millions and then say she would be "happy" to hear this. She is consistently earning wins against top 10 players.
Thanks for your videos. They are great and I cannot stop watching them while I am doing my best to eradicate things I do wrong on the court. It takes also lots of thinking, since service is very technical- means small details make difference.
Thanks for your kind words and contribution to the lesson! Best, John
So glad i found this video. you are saying EVERYTHING that i have been saying for the last 6 months. even pointing out that she has the same problem as Venus.
Thank you! Best John
Great video. Loved the analysis. A fan of Lucia Bronzetti but sometimes I'm cringing at the low speeds. I don't think she's getting enough backswing but I'd love to see your analysis. Thanks.
Ppl would seriously best understand Biomechanics or go to a biomechanics expert for such complex & powerful strokes as the serve.
It's crazy that a pro still doesn't have a good serve with proper Biomechanics. What's the world come to ... This sort of stuff should give everyone an indication of the overall quality of tennis out here today. Absolutely crazy.
But I'd imagine if Roddick understands how & why he was coached on his mechanics(likely by a biomechanist), then he can probably help her.
But there's an absolute difference between a coach & a player. Very different. And the legend coaches usually weren't players ❗ lol
Roddick claims he fixed his serve when he was a teen by abbreviating the motion and it was fixed in a moment. None of these people have biomechanists.
@@jacobhansen8965
Hm. Wow. That's peculiar.
Is this recorded or written somewhere❓
Could definitely be. Despite probability.
I've read it somewhere else before that it was a eureka moment.
Maybe it's because players do what works for them and comfortable. If a player is at the top of their game then they may feel they don't need to worry about the biomechanics. Sports have become to complicated with all the analysts and biomechanics. I'd rather just play. And who defines a perfect serve or grip, etc. Just because something works for one player doesn't mean it works well for another.
@@madamesusu4666
The human body is the human body. There's nothing too special from one to another. Most things are in common. (Ask any doctor❓ lol)
Hence, when you see the pros, so many look so similar down to pretty minute details. Lol
I am noticing she has her wrist in ulnar deviation which is a really weak position to hit a powerful serve at contact. I suspect it’s because of the ball toss being too far to the right for her as John pointed out.
How would you fix this step by step though?
Really liking the analysis, nice job.
Her serve won her a Grand Slam and she is consistently making the semifinals and finsls of tournaments.
Yes,but if her serve was more accurate and she serve less doubles, she would elevate her game to the top.
There’s always room for improvement, as indicated by her 24 double faults in her last two matches at Indian Wells. All players are constantly driving to improve at every level… All the way to the top.
I would like to point out the left arm with the hand pulling down. The elbow should pull down with the hand pulling in to the body above the elbow. Fixing that would majorly help with the excessive head lean to the left.
If I understand you correctly, to bring tossing arm down, you suggest pulling from the left elbow straight down? Have to be careful, I can see myself pulling the elbow too far to the left which will over rotate the body. But if I imagine trying to pull the left elbow to the right then it should help the serve.
@@topspin1715Staying sideways longer will allow the elbow to start down from the right side. What i see with Coco is early rotation and the left coming down straight under the left elbow forcing her whole upper body to collapse, resulting in inconsistent ball contact.
The biggest contributor is how she starts. Everything must follow & flow from there. And she appears off right from her ball toss appearing far forward.
I wonder if Roddick has worked with her yet and how much THIS is a result. Hmmm.
@@HeartMindMuscle2022 what do you mean by far forward? Leaning too far into the court?
@@zlmdragon.
IDK. That's just what this guy said early in this video. I'm just taking his word for it.
Just like Venus Williams used to do. Great analysis!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Of course Coco has most of the qualities to become one of the greatest players but she needs to markedly improve her serve. May be a great coach may help in her positioning when serving. Coco has a hands on loving family and seems to be a well grounded young woman. Those important qualities will help her to achieve her dream.
I think she is terrific with all the potential to be a great champion… One of the best all-time. She does have time to make adjustments and improve her skills. Hopefully she will get with a good coach who can help her with some technical things. Certainly Brad Gilbert can help her with tactics and preparation. Best, John
‘Sit back style?’ I’d call it a ‘sit down style’. And that’s the root of all her problems you describe: compare her body angle to Roddick’s when the ball is in the air. With her ready-to-swing posture she can’t utilize the large group of muscles around the tummy, at all.
Why do people feel the need to critique professional players that are successful in their careers?
Every professional is trying to improve regardless of their level of success. This may help Coco with her serve, which she would be happy about.
@@PerformancePlusTennis very presumptuous of you and entitled to believe your assessment of her game is something she would be happy about. They said the same things about slaves...that they were happy to be owned by other human beings. Others tried the same thing with the Williams Sisters on what they should be doing but their father put an end to that. Unless I hear CoCo say or write she's ok with your commentary about what she should be doing, then I'll believe it. Please don't take offense at my comments, just giving my opinion as did you.
Your comments are ridiculous! And further, implying that there is some association here with slaves or the Williams sisters is both sad and disappointing.
@@madamesusu4666 mate. He is tennis coach that makes tennis analysis and advice. What better than to analyze a pro stroke to teach others. You're going too far. He has done it with 50 other players of all countries and etnicities.
She needs to adjust. and another aspect in serving, she dose not take her time to control her riddom, by go to the towel,and slow the pace.
Seriously,
Coco has won millions of dollars with her style of serve. I don't understand what you're really talking about.
WHO say, There has to be a certain way someone needs a perfect serve.
Listen, this is what is wrong with this Country. People uses their own talents and make much monies then someone comes along that needs a job and BOOM THERE IT IS.
Pronation or long execution.
She hadn't needed it so far and made lots of money.
YOU TALK A GOOD GAME AND BOTH OF THESE WOMEN ARE ON TOP OF THEIR GAME.
BOTH ARE SUPERSTARS AND COCO IS ONE ALREADY AT AGE 20, MAN PLEASE.
#BYE
Delores, do you even play tennis?
@@PerformancePlusTennis it doesn't matter whether Delores plays tennis or not. You're critiquing a player who is already successful, ranked in the top 10 in singles and doubles. I could understand your views if you were speaking of lower ranked players or players coming up and are having difficulties with the dynamics of their game. But a Grand Slam winner and finalist at the Indian Wells Tournament.... Doesn't make sense to me. If it was me, I wouldn't be keen on hearing any of this because you're coming across as if you need to teach a lesser skilled player how to become better. CoCo is a skilled and talented player that continues to get better. You may have good intentions and the respect you've earned from some of the commenters seems genuine, but maybe you chose the wrong players game to critique. We don't know each other so it's nothing personal.
@@madamesusu4666 You're right... it isn't personal (although you certainly make it sound that way). It's also not political, cultural, moral, or ideological. IT"S PHYSICS. Great job John.
And for what it's worth, part of being a multi-million dollar professional athlete is that you invite this kind of scrutiny... it comes with the territory... and... IT"S PHYSICS!!! Imagine if people were outraged every time players were chastized on talk radio. People would have their opinions pro and con, but they would never stand on the principal that professionals are outside the reach of public opinion... and yet, Coco's serve is not even about opinion and passion. Her serve is about... PHYSICS.
#Subscribe
follow Vic Braden teaching the serve.. simple GOAT Vic Braden video I downloaded on my channel Her forehand poor too...Brad Gilbert is the best technical coach He will help her He got Agassi to volley ... and he does no grips ...
HATER