@@bakakafka4428 I doubt it will be that long. I would bet 12-24 months. no reason mads and co. can't do 5000+ hours in the next year. He'll have more resources and support than ever.
2 weeks of cleaning up the mess, one week of scrubbing and washing, one week of setting up shop and we are on our way to a 2 year grinding and sanding extravaganza!
I remember when Brian's channel started, someone more critical of his expertise in boat repair department said on sailing CZcams forum (I'm not mentioning which one) that "he's no Mads, and doesn't appreciate that catamarans are more difficult structurally". And now Mads is buying that very same catamaran of him.
You have more experience rebuilding boats than most people. I have absolute trust that the two of you will figure out if this boat is what you want to make your next home. Do what feels right, and don't worry about naysayers.
Can't Agree more I started watching Sail life to see how to do fiberglass on a camper... I never left!.. If its cleaned out it will feel better and Mads checked the major parts all projects will have surprises but I think its good. And this time he will not be at it alone that helps loads!
Exactly what you need to keep these vlogs interesting. There are already enough sailing couples. A normal person wouldn't think about it, but in your case, go for it!
Watching Mads shopping for catalmarens is sort of like watching an old horror movie about a cabin in the woods. All the protagonist needs to do to survive the flick is to NOT GO DOWN IN THE BASEMENT! Meanwhile Mads is heading straight for the stairs and I am covering my eyes. Well at least we are likely going to learn a whole lot more Danish swear words soon.
I hope your AdSense nonsense is fixable soon. I'm crossing my fingers for you. All joking aside about the mono/multi rivalry that's some serious kaka the abc folks have tossed you into. Just about every 'toober I follow is having huge issues dealing with the new changes coming down from corporate and frankly I think more than a few of them are going to be unable to continue here. Meanwhile I can actually follow a decent stream of daily new videos on Rumble now. So there is that.
THIS IS exactly what you need to keep YOUR VIDEOS interesting. There are already more enough sailing couples ON YOU TUBE. GO WITH THIS PROJECT OR SOMETHING SIMILIAR , AND GOOD LUCK BOTH OF YOU .
I’m 66. If the team buys the boat I hope to be alive when they finish the rebuild. Go with your feeling Athenians. Will be fun to watch the magic spin once again.
I would highly recommend you rent a storage pod to store and secure stuff outside that is also wind and weather tight. It will help a ton over the entire project. Also, Setting up a portable solar generator like an Ecoflow or similar would be great for power tool battery charging and lights if you work into the evenings. Working late or working early in Florida is really refreshing versus mid-day temps in Florida. Also, I hope you accept people that are willing to volunteer for a week or a weekend. That would be really cool! I think you would be really surprised people would be willing to volunteer to just help. Maybe consider putting out a google form for people to apply?
@@charonstyxferryman storage pods typically have a roll door and have an integrated security method. They also drop off and pick up the container and rent by the month.
@@AvaSailLife You and Mass are quite the team and wish you good fortune (luck you have) in this colossal project. While watching other channels doing refit of all kind, it became obvious to me that at some time the storing of supplies and tools become difficult. The space underneath the cat is a superb location to work on rainy days or extreme hot days but there’s never enough room, so renting (buying an eventually reselling) a “SeaCan” can be the answer thus giving you a secure locker for your stuff. Super happy for both of you. Merci 👍🇨🇦
Well, all I'm going to say is that at the same point in my marriage as you are, my wife and I bought a massive fixer-upper house. She had no real experience with that kind of work, but more importantly the disruption it causes. I did, and we were sure that we could do it and have a fabulous home in just three years. Ten years later, with stuff still to do, we sold it, made a bundle, but I'd give it all up to have not made those the circumstances of the firnt decade of our life together. And yes, we broke up, not a small amount because of it. The takeaway: long term, demanding fixing up projects are not usually a good basis to let a marriage thrive and grow.
Brian is such an interesting guy - - absent minded professor comes to mind. We were all cheering for him to finish. You and Ava are the perfect candidates to finish out this project
Good for you. Bryan did a first rate job on the earlier repairs. He also has all the CAD drawings for the interior bulkheads and woodwork. Good luck and good luck Bryan.
If anyone on the planet can take on such a project, I think it's you Mads. You seem to enjoy boat work more than sailing, so this is a perfect opportunity!
Well you are right about one thing: the price. A quick search of Yachtworld showed similar models and age in the $700-800,000 range. Insane. You should have a lot of margin to work but do not forget the ancillary costs like yard fees, insurance, tax, and a place to live. They all add up and affect the bottom line. Good luck.
YES YES YES, this will be your new baby TOGETHER, so excited for the both of you and of course watching you bring this beautiful Katamaran back to its former glory. YIPPEEEE
I loved watching Bryan and was sad when he threw in the towel on his dream boat. I couldn't be more happy to see you all pick up where he left off. I think this boat great opportunity to become something magnificent once again. Can't wait see all the hard work well done.
I don't have a horse in this race so my advice, such as it is, would be to follow your heart. I love watching boat repair DYI stuff, that is what brought me to your channel in the first place. I was impressed with your willingness to take on a challenge, try new solutions and the quality of your work on Athena. No matter what I'll be here watching and cheering you on.
I've been following Bryans restoration process, and I was a bit bummed when he decided to throw in the towel on the project. Seeing *this* possibly happening though, I did not expect - and I must say that I'm eagerly crossing my fingers and hoping for an EPIC continuation of the saga, with man glitter and lots of oh glorious sanding! :D
New subscriber here...I followed Brian working on fixing a hurricane damaged catamaran...and very happy to see you guys continuing the project. Big thank you. I am a retired seafarer and I have done some sailing...like being a crew member for 3 months on a tall ship. I have followed some youtubers fixing their boat too. Actually I prefer those channels.
My true interest is boat work. I remember you being a bit stressed when moving from boat work to cruising content. I figured I would drift away from the channel. But I didn’t. You kept it interesting. Ava was a bit of a magic bullet, together you guys are the definition of “ nerdy cute”. Ava is the only “ travel guide” I find entertaining. That Cat is a true WRECK, it’s awesome. Hope it works out, 2-3 years to fix?
Actually, while there is more physical room in a cat they are extremely sensitive to weight. Mads is going to need to learn minimalism and will not be able to throw 7 tons of gadgets in that boat like he did with Athena.
Not just Florida, but Florida in July, August, and September is especially brutal. They will need to do like Sailing Uma and buy a mini-split ac unit to temporarily install in the boat to keep the fiberglass from kicking off in under 5 minutes!
I lived there for 30 years and cringed when Mads said the boat is in Florida....uggh!!!! Mosquitos alone will drive a person mad and they come out as soon as the summer sun dips in the sky. Plus the endless thunderstorms and hurricanes, no thanks. I'm watching Matt and Jessica from MJ sailing too and building their kit boat by themselves gives me chest pain. I also watch Parlay Revival with Colin McCrae and his catamaran was in waaaayyyy better condition than this one. If Mads and Ava asked me for advice, I'd tell them to work 2-3 jobs for a year to save up enough money to buy a catamaran that's in better shape. This is just nuts.
I'm really excited to see you guys start a new project- rebuilding Athena is what got me hooked on your channel years ago. You guys keep me motivated on my project! Can't wait!!
Peter from Sailing Into Freedom spent a good deal of time discussing the importance of weight based on the design of the cat- those cats not designed to be a heavy floating palace require a minimalist lifestyle. Much depends of the design.
Hey I was a follower of Brian’s and was sad to hear that he was not going to be able to finish the vessel but was quite pleased with his work and rebuilding skills, I think he was a good builder and hopefully he will sell it to you both 🤞
You rebuilt Athena, and you enjoy the work, so that's a plus, the big negative is that it's easily 2-3 times the work you did on Athena, and far, far more cost.
I've watched Bryan from the beginning, amazing workmanship and using cnc table he made to do bulkheads. Unfortunately life kicks you in the butt as it did Bryan felt really bad for him.Im glad your taking on this project along with your skills , wishing you all the best. Get a huge white tarp to shield against that florida sun.Bryan was working mostly at night under lights due to heat
Construction and engineering of Antares is top tier, perhaps the best. Excellent resale value too. After watching you restore Athena, your next boat can appear just fine and I am convinced you would still take it down to its core and restore or upgrade everything. Everything! Go for it, if the price is right for a hull and deck.
@@flytoday So far as salvage history is concerned, doubtless. From a real world, practical standpoint, any part of a boat touched by Mads is better than when it left the factory. Athena is a paradigm example.
Yesssss! Mads & Ava back in action! :) That boat really does need a good clearout to see exactly how to proceed, plus it's hazardous working in an area that cluttered.
I saw Brian’s channel years ago when I first slipped down the sailing rabbit hole and was blown away at the condition of the boat and doubly so when he towed it back to the states. I don’t think he would have invested the money to buy and tow it if he couldn’t repair it, and after watching Colin resurrect Parle Revival at least I know it’s not impossible if you know what you’re doing. I hope that you and Ava get the boat 🤞🏽Boat project You Tube is fascinating and right now Sailing Uma is the only channel up to their necks in it. I would never attempt any of it myself but it’s a great learning experience watching talent and determination bring a poor old boat back to life. Y’all got this 😉👍🏽 🍀
I have watched Bryan's journey with that boat from the beginning, I was more than a little disappointed when he stopped posting videos about working on it. I don't think he was as particular about perfection as Mads is, but he did a pretty good job on the stuff he was working on. This is great news!
Bryan did a good job fixing what he did. The next things left to do you are well aware of and no doubt capable of handling it. You know what you can afford and what you are willing to do. Best of luck for the purchase and if you buy it working on it.
😂😂😂 I too ❤ PANDAS Orange Chicken. However, my fortune cookie note said "That wasn't Chicken you ate !" 😳 As for the catamaran, if anybody can do it, it would be you. 😊 GO FOR IT❗️🎉🎉🎉 Also, the motion on the water is very different, with less roll. 😊
I'm all for another protracted session of 'oh glorious sanding' though I'm not a big fan of cats... in a perfect world there is a lonely 60' Swan that needs some Sail Life
Agreed don't like cats personally, but that's ok it's there boat, I'll happily watch him give another dilapidated boat new life. So much easier than doing my own boat
Don’t bring the whole cat vs. mono debate into this. Personally I am a fan of cats but I thoroughly enjoyed watching them transform their present boat. Looking forward to watching them restore their choice into a new life!
Cats are funny… so divisive. I prefer the sailing channels with older monohulls. And my next boat will probably be an older monohull. But if I had the money I would buy a cat… BUT they are insanely overpriced and trendy which means the mono market is filled with amazing boats at realistic prices. It’s a tricky one. i sailed and raced both… a lot depends on conditions… cats are miserable in a light wind.
Mads may be the only person who would see all these issues and keep saying, "it's no be deal". His ability to not be overwhelmed by the required work is amazing!
You are now married, happily so it appears. You will need 100% buy in from Ava. You have learned so much from previous rebuilds, but you’d be putting both of your lives on hold for an extended period of time. You were spot on with the comment happy wife happy life. You will tackle your next project as a couple, and your relationship is far more valuable than a boat. Good luck.
100% - you dont get the time back - he has already fried 5+ years with the current yacht - and folks they all end up in the tip at some stage. @ their stage of life - yeah - nah. your time is way too costly.
You are going to want more opening windows in the front of that greenhouse. Also from experience. You may want to plan how those curved fixed windows can be best replaced.
Visited the Antarres boatyard in Buenos Aires last spring. Nice folks. Their boats are few and precious and absolutely safe and comfortable world cruisers. The boat needs your unique offering of skills and care. It will emerge better than ever and return the favour for a long time.
I can't imagine anyone else taking on that project and Bryan has a new boat and a lot of overhead with this boat. Taking it off his hands is a deal. If it were my boat I would give it to you and thank you for cleaning up the mess and storage cost. Good luck!
The only other person who could do it, is the professional boat-builder from "Magic Carpet". He spend 4 years rebuilding (not refit) a boat which was dropped by a crane. AFAIK, his name is "Aladino" and his wife is "Maya"
Having worked in the marine industry for just shy of 40 years, I've known all kinds of boaters. Racers,cruisers,charter boats,etc. Some would do the bare minimum to get "out there" while others seemed to be more into the vessel preparation, installing gizmos,etc. You seem to be of the latter. Nothing against it mind you but you're young and have the time and the skills so please carry on and I'll be watching.
First thought was you’re nuts, even if you get it for free it’s bound to cost well over $100k for supplies alone let alone labor to get her back in shape. Then I checked prices - a 2017 Antares PDQ recently sold with asking price of $850,000… so maybe not so nuts?
How exciting! I hope things work out well for you two and for Bryan for this purchase. I was following him during his restoration and his unfortunate turn of events that stopped the restoration. I look forward to following you two. This is a ton of work, but the rewards will be huge!
Much of what I know about boat work I learned from your videos. Your channel gave me the courage and tools to tackle my own project, a complete and thorough refitting like Athena's. Now I look forward to setting sail with you on this exciting new adventure, to learn even more! :-) Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
One thing to remember keeping the cat on the hard in Florida is definitely not the same as in Denmark...you will need deep pockets to pay the yard fees.....in my opinion the cat is absolutely worth nothing.. ..the only value is the two engines maybe a couple of thousand dollars each......Bryan .( I used to like his videos very much).....something else to think about .... Bryan will have to pay several thousands of dollars to have the cat broken up and disposed of .....please don't make the same mistake as last time when you paid far to much for your last boat from Scotland.........Mads this cat is worth nothing....only the two engines bring some value........
Sometimes it can pay off to let the yard do some of the more tedious job, e.g. sanding or painting. That would make one a customer, so one could probably negotiate a much lower yard fee.
I agree, find another boat, one that is liveable while you repair/refit. And do you really need two boats, or are you planning to sell Athena after years of work?
Hi Mads. You are absolutely the right man for this 🙂 You have got the skill and the experience needed for such a big project. You know what it will take regarding work, time and money and you also have the stamina to see it through! I really look forward to years of good project videos 🙂 Regards from Thorstein (the norwegian guy that visited you onbord Athena when it stood on land in Skive marina).
WOW, better you than me but then again you are Mad(s). I would think you should get the boat for $1.00 That is about the value. Nobody (very very few) will touch that boat as is. It is destined to be scrapped after it sits for a bunch more years. Re-built submerged saltwater engines....little value in the big picture. - We know you can do it, but get into it right. Or just head south after the next hurricane & have your choice of projects. I think I will buy stock in 3M (sandpaper) & Makita.
Hi. It has been a long time since i been following one of your videos. So nice to see you. You are not scared starting a new project. I just want to wish you all the best. Best wishes from Norway
You are correct… a 44 Antares. I just watched Bryans last video and the patch work on the starboard side matches up. Quite a series of videos Bryan put together at @bryansailing on CZcams.
If I were in your shoes, and if a “damaged” boat is an acceptable starting point, then I would be looking at putting my effort into something with intrinsic value like a decent size Swan from the 90’s. Your REALITY is that you project is your passion (sailing) but also your business - and your business is CONTENT. Whilst this cat project might well deliver better content (?) will it deliver on the passion? Nobody ever lay in their deathbed saying “wish I’d owned a catamaran” but some may well have said “I’m happy I owned a Swan” 😂
I am very happy for you two, Mads and Ava! The DIY theme of your channel will evolve into a male/female oriented DIY catamaran project. Wish the video didn’t end, but now I have to wait another week for an update.
I can't think of anyone better to take up the torch from Bryan and complete this revival. You and he are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of style but, as far as I can tell from Bryan's videos, completely aligned on quality of the finished product. I'm rooting for you!
You spent eight years rebuilding Athena into a very capable S/V, you will do no less with a cat!! If you & the Misses will be happy with it, make it so!!! 😁🤙
No...focus on monohulls. Maybe a Bob Perry, Alden, Ted Hood, Walter Schulz, Ted Brewer, or Chuck Paine design. Or a Stevens 49. Possibly a Kelly-Peterson KP44. Stick with solid bluewater hulls.
Why though? Those are all old school money pits. Look at all the CZcamsrs going to cats, not to mention the market. This is a project where the boat could actually increase in value compared to the amount of money he puts into it. The idea that your boat needs to be a tank to be seaworthy is outdated.
@@viva5724 What are you talking about. You have zero clue. Look at the value of Valiant 40s. Passport 40s, Tayana 52s. They never go down in value. Cats are complete money pits that do nothing but go down in value.
If you want to cruise, walk away. If you want to just rebuild boats, this one could be the next one. Remember, you can make more money but you can't make more time.
Bryan has done legit work on that Antari. I was hoping he would finish it. The last video he posted on it he said he was on the fence. I left message telling him to rock it. H was doing a good job fix the cat. It seems indeed for sale legit. If you get this I will be a happy camper! Do watch Bryan’s videos and watch his progress. He did do solid work on it and did look forward to his progress. Stay safe you two!
I'll put down my hot take (and this is based purely on knowledge, with a very, very small personal feeling into it - mostly because it's worth a watch regardless of what you pin down). 1. unless you somehow go into the future and get Ross' (life on the hulls) cat... you're going to dive in a world of absolute scams. I have yet to see a brand of cat, that put out a boat that's not had some kind of corners cut. And we're talking big dough territory here, so if they have the marbles to con big money, imagine what's done on lower price point units. All in all, they can be disasters. Either in their past (hence the block out) or waiting to happen. There's an entire community built around the refit of these things. 2. complication. twin hulls, twin engines, twin rudders, twin headaches. Both in fixing, maintaining and "other shoe drops" situations where Murphy shows up and always has it for you (royal you). 3. They seem bigger, they aren't bigger, unless the entire boat is considerably bigger, where one hull is about the size of a standard common variety boat (i'd say garden variety... but what's a garden on the sea??) 4. this circles back to 1, because they're poorly made, the repairs end up being boatholes. In closing, i have every bit of confidence you can fix any boat that would ever come your way, in your abilities, my trust is absolute, been following since picture format. It's the time vs crap shoveling that needs to be assessed. IMO, before YT's purpose is discussed, you should asses your (both of yours) point of view in this. I'm looking at Ross and his missus, and they're feeling the burn. I can tell. Luckily for them, they've gone past the point of the horizon and have the end in sight, but there's sooo many who have gone and touched the cat sands and .... just couldn't do it. I do feel YT's format has created a bit of a motivational push, but the reality is this, what's on YT is just the creme of the crop. You know how statistics work. Dunno, i just don't want to see you guys dive into something you might regret. That said, the decision should be yours and yours alone. Between the two of you. For myself, i have no horse in it, there's sanding regardless of what boat you're digging in. ;)
I personally would add that a project boat should be sailed at least as many years as the project took before looking to replace it unless the end result was totally unusable and unsuitable such as the BSO Seeker.
Oh the memories!
Good ones, I hope! Fiberglass dust itches LESS in the heat, right? ;)
Bahahahaha
Bad ones. LOL
@@SailLife Don't do it, find a real bluewater monohull.
@@SB-nt9fp Already have one of those ;) Not enough room.
Here we go! 5+ years of glorious sanding! 😄
@@bakakafka4428 I doubt it will be that long. I would bet 12-24 months. no reason mads and co. can't do 5000+ hours in the next year. He'll have more resources and support than ever.
Hehe go for it extra vagansa glorious sanding
Sunday night viewing secured!
Double sanding, even! Two hull glory
If I am still breathing, I will not miss an episode.
2 weeks of cleaning up the mess, one week of scrubbing and washing, one week of setting up shop and we are on our way to a 2 year grinding and sanding extravaganza!
2 years? I'll be surprised if they can move in within three with another year sitting in a marina fitting-out.
O glorious man glitter! I'll get the popcorn!
This would be a 15 yr project with his attention to perfection details!!!!
@@chadmutchler5062 with larger projects the amount of work increases exponentially rather than linearly.
and I couldn't be more excited.
I remember when Brian's channel started, someone more critical of his expertise in boat repair department said on sailing CZcams forum (I'm not mentioning which one) that "he's no Mads, and doesn't appreciate that catamarans are more difficult structurally".
And now Mads is buying that very same catamaran of him.
Don’t run away. One of the reasons I started watching you was the quality rebuilding. This keeps me going with you guys.
You have more experience rebuilding boats than most people. I have absolute trust that the two of you will figure out if this boat is what you want to make your next home. Do what feels right, and don't worry about naysayers.
Can't Agree more I started watching Sail life to see how to do fiberglass on a camper... I never left!.. If its cleaned out it will feel better and Mads checked the major parts all projects will have surprises but I think its good. And this time he will not be at it alone that helps loads!
Boat construction is much harder than boat repair
Exactly what you need to keep these vlogs interesting. There are already enough sailing couples. A normal person wouldn't think about it, but in your case, go for it!
Me i would say no galley up i heaved both galley up is the only to way to go. That is my two cents.Fair winds and clam seas.
Watching Mads shopping for catalmarens is sort of like watching an old horror movie about a cabin in the woods. All the protagonist needs to do to survive the flick is to NOT GO DOWN IN THE BASEMENT!
Meanwhile Mads is heading straight for the stairs and I am covering my eyes. Well at least we are likely going to learn a whole lot more Danish swear words soon.
Lol
Not to mention seeing him covered in sawdust and cutting strange shapes out of odd materials.
Here are 2 Danish swear words,
""For helvede",
"Forbandede "
Haha 😂 This is an awesome comment!
I hope your AdSense nonsense is fixable soon. I'm crossing my fingers for you. All joking aside about the mono/multi rivalry that's some serious kaka the abc folks have tossed you into. Just about every 'toober I follow is having huge issues dealing with the new changes coming down from corporate and frankly I think more than a few of them are going to be unable to continue here. Meanwhile I can actually follow a decent stream of daily new videos on Rumble now. So there is that.
THIS IS exactly what you need to keep YOUR VIDEOS interesting. There are already more enough sailing couples ON YOU TUBE. GO WITH THIS PROJECT OR SOMETHING SIMILIAR , AND GOOD LUCK BOTH OF YOU .
I’m 66. If the team buys the boat I hope to be alive when they finish the rebuild. Go with your feeling Athenians. Will be fun to watch the magic spin once again.
My idea also...at least I can watch them sailing with that cat when I retire...
😂
Here's to a long and happy life 🍷
When will he sail the globe ? Tell him to sail !!
He can call the cat Athena Too.
I would highly recommend you rent a storage pod to store and secure stuff outside that is also wind and weather tight. It will help a ton over the entire project. Also, Setting up a portable solar generator like an Ecoflow or similar would be great for power tool battery charging and lights if you work into the evenings. Working late or working early in Florida is really refreshing versus mid-day temps in Florida. Also, I hope you accept people that are willing to volunteer for a week or a weekend. That would be really cool! I think you would be really surprised people would be willing to volunteer to just help. Maybe consider putting out a google form for people to apply?
That storage pod sounds like cargo container.
@@charonstyxferryman storage pods typically have a roll door and have an integrated security method. They also drop off and pick up the container and rent by the month.
Ava’s smiles …..worth a millions sheets of sandpaper! So happy to see this projects over the next few years . 👍🇨🇦
Thank you so much! We are very excited about it!
@@AvaSailLife You and Mass are quite the team and wish you good fortune (luck you have) in this colossal project. While watching other channels doing refit of all kind, it became obvious to me that at some time the storing of supplies and tools become difficult. The space underneath the cat is a superb location to work on rainy days or extreme hot days but there’s never enough room, so renting (buying an eventually reselling) a “SeaCan” can be the answer thus giving you a secure locker for your stuff. Super happy for both of you. Merci 👍🇨🇦
Mads you are the only person I know that can make sanding and watching paint dry interesting go for it you've got me hooked ye ha
Ava - you need to make Mads finish the headlining on Athena before he starts any work on a new project. :D
Funny you should say that. I ordered the materials a few days ago. The headliner is on the list 😉
@@SailLife Faster Faster Cheaper Cheaper! Imagine Eva with a whip in hand.. Poor Mads
@@DawidKellerman 🤣
I’m convinced you enjoy rebuilding old boats more than sailing them. Nothing wrong with that.👍
But cats are crappy sailboats.
Go for it! You look happier in a boat yard than cruising.
I loved how Bryan worked to get that boat to its current state… I wish he would have finished it. It would be awesome to see you finish it!
Well, all I'm going to say is that at the same point in my marriage as you are, my wife and I bought a massive fixer-upper house. She had no real experience with that kind of work, but more importantly the disruption it causes. I did, and we were sure that we could do it and have a fabulous home in just three years. Ten years later, with stuff still to do, we sold it, made a bundle, but I'd give it all up to have not made those the circumstances of the firnt decade of our life together.
And yes, we broke up, not a small amount because of it.
The takeaway: long term, demanding fixing up projects are not usually a good basis to let a marriage thrive and grow.
Now you have more time to watch strippers
Brian is such an interesting guy - - absent minded professor comes to mind. We were all cheering for him to finish. You and Ava are the perfect candidates to finish out this project
Good for you. Bryan did a first rate job on the earlier repairs. He also has all the CAD drawings for the interior bulkheads and woodwork. Good luck and good luck Bryan.
If anyone on the planet can take on such a project, I think it's you Mads. You seem to enjoy boat work more than sailing, so this is a perfect opportunity!
Well you are right about one thing: the price. A quick search of Yachtworld showed similar models and age in the $700-800,000 range. Insane. You should have a lot of margin to work but do not forget the ancillary costs like yard fees, insurance, tax, and a place to live. They all add up and affect the bottom line. Good luck.
YES YES YES, this will be your new baby TOGETHER, so excited for the both of you and of course watching you bring this beautiful Katamaran back to its former glory. YIPPEEEE
I loved watching Bryan and was sad when he threw in the towel on his dream boat. I couldn't be more happy to see you all pick up where he left off. I think this boat great opportunity to become something magnificent once again. Can't wait see all the hard work well done.
Watched Bryan get it this far. Subbed to see the completion!
I don't have a horse in this race so my advice, such as it is, would be to follow your heart. I love watching boat repair DYI stuff, that is what brought me to your channel in the first place. I was impressed with your willingness to take on a challenge, try new solutions and the quality of your work on Athena. No matter what I'll be here watching and cheering you on.
I've been following Bryans restoration process, and I was a bit bummed when he decided to throw in the towel on the project.
Seeing *this* possibly happening though, I did not expect - and I must say that I'm eagerly crossing my fingers and hoping for an EPIC continuation of the saga, with man glitter and lots of oh glorious sanding! :D
New subscriber here...I followed Brian working on fixing a hurricane damaged catamaran...and very happy to see you guys continuing the project. Big thank you. I am a retired seafarer and I have done some sailing...like being a crew member for 3 months on a tall ship. I have followed some youtubers fixing their boat too. Actually I prefer those channels.
My true interest is boat work. I remember you being a bit stressed when moving from boat work to cruising content. I figured I would drift away from the channel. But I didn’t. You kept it interesting. Ava was a bit of a magic bullet, together you guys are the definition of “ nerdy cute”. Ava is the only “ travel guide” I find entertaining. That Cat is a true WRECK, it’s awesome. Hope it works out, 2-3 years to fix?
A catamaran is just up your alley, you can put way more gadgets in here ;-)
Actually, while there is more physical room in a cat they are extremely sensitive to weight. Mads is going to need to learn minimalism and will not be able to throw 7 tons of gadgets in that boat like he did with Athena.
I watch Bryan from the beginning, this is a great project for you , I think you will excel at this project
Florida is going to be a hot place to work on a boat - ask matt and jessica when they worked on their aluminum mono-hull.
Has to be experienced to be believed.
Not just Florida, but Florida in July, August, and September is especially brutal. They will need to do like Sailing Uma and buy a mini-split ac unit to temporarily install in the boat to keep the fiberglass from kicking off in under 5 minutes!
I lived there for 30 years and cringed when Mads said the boat is in Florida....uggh!!!! Mosquitos alone will drive a person mad and they come out as soon as the summer sun dips in the sky. Plus the endless thunderstorms and hurricanes, no thanks. I'm watching Matt and Jessica from MJ sailing too and building their kit boat by themselves gives me chest pain. I also watch Parlay Revival with Colin McCrae and his catamaran was in waaaayyyy better condition than this one. If Mads and Ava asked me for advice, I'd tell them to work 2-3 jobs for a year to save up enough money to buy a catamaran that's in better shape. This is just nuts.
I'm really excited to see you guys start a new project- rebuilding Athena is what got me hooked on your channel years ago. You guys keep me motivated on my project! Can't wait!!
Peter from Sailing Into Freedom spent a good deal of time discussing the importance of weight based on the design of the cat- those cats not designed to be a heavy floating palace require a minimalist lifestyle. Much depends of the design.
and Mads likes to put every unnecessary do hicky in as possible.
I loved watching Brian sailing
Hey I was a follower of Brian’s and was sad to hear that he was not going to be able to finish the vessel but was quite pleased with his work and rebuilding skills, I think he was a good builder and hopefully he will sell it to you both 🤞
I enjoyed watching Brian’s videos…..I think you definitely have the skill set and Know-how to bring her back to full glory.
You rebuilt Athena, and you enjoy the work, so that's a plus, the big negative is that it's easily 2-3 times the work you did on Athena, and far, far more cost.
I've watched Bryan from the beginning, amazing workmanship and using cnc table he made to do bulkheads. Unfortunately life kicks you in the butt as it did Bryan felt really bad for him.Im glad your taking on this project along with your skills , wishing you all the best. Get a huge white tarp to shield against that florida sun.Bryan was working mostly at night under lights due to heat
We are glad we can help finish the job :) Great idea with the white tarp!
After listening to you I absolutely believe you deserve that boat. You are the new Bryan for sure.
If the objective is to maximize fun and diy then this is a top contender for the next decade.
Construction and engineering of Antares is top tier, perhaps the best. Excellent resale value too. After watching you restore Athena, your next boat can appear just fine and I am convinced you would still take it down to its core and restore or upgrade everything. Everything! Go for it, if the price is right for a hull and deck.
Hurricane damaged boats will always be hurricane damaged boats regardless of brand
@@flytoday So far as salvage history is concerned, doubtless. From a real world, practical standpoint, any part of a boat touched by Mads is better than when it left the factory. Athena is a paradigm example.
Bryan did a good job with his repairs. Hope you can finish it.
Yesssss! Mads & Ava back in action! :) That boat really does need a good clearout to see exactly how to proceed, plus it's hazardous working in an area that cluttered.
Figure out your offer. Then halve that. He either says no or negotiates up. Thats a ton of work, always blows out in cost as you know well.
I saw Brian’s channel years ago when I first slipped down the sailing rabbit hole and was blown away at the condition of the boat and doubly so when he towed it back to the states. I don’t think he would have invested the money to buy and tow it if he couldn’t repair it, and after watching Colin resurrect Parle Revival at least I know it’s not impossible if you know what you’re doing. I hope that you and Ava get the boat 🤞🏽Boat project You Tube is fascinating and right now Sailing Uma is the only channel up to their necks in it. I would never attempt any of it myself but it’s a great learning experience watching talent and determination bring a poor old boat back to life. Y’all got this 😉👍🏽 🍀
that's a lot of work, but i know you are not the type of guy who is afraid of work. looking forward to the project ! missed the sanding videos hahaha
The way your rubbing your hands together, gives it away.
Go for it.
It is a proper round of work, but definitely also a proper boat when you are done. I believe in both of you.
I have watched Bryan's journey with that boat from the beginning, I was more than a little disappointed when he stopped posting videos about working on it. I don't think he was as particular about perfection as Mads is, but he did a pretty good job on the stuff he was working on. This is great news!
Happy for you guys. You are the right person to complete Bryan’s project.
Bryan did a good job fixing what he did. The next things left to do you are well aware of and no doubt capable of handling it. You know what you can afford and what you are willing to do. Best of luck for the purchase and if you buy it working on it.
To an average person, I'd say RUN! But knowing your abilities and more importantly, your perseverance, I have no doubt you can do it.
😂😂😂 I too ❤ PANDAS Orange Chicken. However, my fortune cookie note said "That wasn't Chicken you ate !" 😳 As for the catamaran, if anybody can do it, it would be you. 😊 GO FOR IT❗️🎉🎉🎉 Also, the motion on the water is very different, with less roll. 😊
Go for it! At a pretty low price hopefully! Can’t wait for the rebuild!
For all the no-danish viewers: this is called a HÅNDVÆRKERTILBUD 😅
But Mads and Ava can do it. And Saillife is a DIY project!
Good speed
Den skal bare have lidt maling, også bliver det mahogni med tiden. Men hvis der er nogen der kan, så er det Mads. 100%.
Ja en fixer-upper som de siger ovre i staterne.
I'm all for another protracted session of 'oh glorious sanding' though I'm not a big fan of cats... in a perfect world there is a lonely 60' Swan that needs some Sail Life
Agreed don't like cats personally, but that's ok it's there boat, I'll happily watch him give another dilapidated boat new life. So much easier than doing my own boat
Don’t bring the whole cat vs. mono debate into this. Personally I am a fan of cats but I thoroughly enjoyed watching them transform their present boat. Looking forward to watching them restore their choice into a new life!
@@edwardsnover4303 noones brought any debate into it. We've just stated personal preferences. People are allowed personal preferences.
Cats are funny… so divisive. I prefer the sailing channels with older monohulls. And my next boat will probably be an older monohull. But if I had the money I would buy a cat… BUT they are insanely overpriced and trendy which means the mono market is filled with amazing boats at realistic prices. It’s a tricky one. i sailed and raced both… a lot depends on conditions… cats are miserable in a light wind.
your optimism is a grand tonic - also glad its YOUR project (not one I'd tackle)
Mads may be the only person who would see all these issues and keep saying, "it's no be deal". His ability to not be overwhelmed by the required work is amazing!
You are now married, happily so it appears. You will need 100% buy in from Ava. You have learned so much from previous rebuilds, but you’d be putting both of your lives on hold for an extended period of time. You were spot on with the comment happy wife happy life. You will tackle your next project as a couple, and your relationship is far more valuable than a boat. Good luck.
100% - you dont get the time back - he has already fried 5+ years with the current yacht - and folks they all end up in the tip at some stage. @ their stage of life - yeah - nah. your time is way too costly.
You are going to want more opening windows in the front of that greenhouse. Also from experience. You may want to plan how those curved fixed windows can be best replaced.
Visited the Antarres boatyard in Buenos Aires last spring. Nice folks. Their boats are few and precious and absolutely safe and comfortable world cruisers.
The boat needs your unique offering of skills and care. It will emerge better than ever and return the favour for a long time.
One of my NEW favorite channels I have subscribed and look forward to the progress restoration
Looks rough but it would give you content for the next decade. I say go for it!
If you do, that would be an amazing project to follow 👍🏻
In 15 years Mats will have a whole charter fleet of project boats! 🎉😊 Nice business concept. 😊
I can't imagine anyone else taking on that project and Bryan has a new boat and a lot of overhead with this boat. Taking it off his hands is a deal. If it were my boat I would give it to you and thank you for cleaning up the mess and storage cost. Good luck!
The only other person who could do it, is the professional boat-builder from "Magic Carpet". He spend 4 years rebuilding (not refit) a boat which was dropped by a crane.
AFAIK, his name is "Aladino" and his wife is "Maya"
Yes!!!!!
Looks good! Ava needs a bigger space.
Having worked in the marine industry for just shy of 40 years, I've known all kinds of boaters. Racers,cruisers,charter boats,etc. Some would do the bare minimum to get "out there" while others seemed to be more into the vessel preparation, installing gizmos,etc. You seem to be of the latter. Nothing against it mind you but you're young and have the time and the skills so please carry on and I'll be watching.
Good luck you guys. If you get it, I know you will end up with an awesome new home.
First thought was you’re nuts, even if you get it for free it’s bound to cost well over $100k for supplies alone let alone labor to get her back in shape. Then I checked prices - a 2017 Antares PDQ recently sold with asking price of $850,000… so maybe not so nuts?
How exciting! I hope things work out well for you two and for Bryan for this purchase. I was following him during his restoration and his unfortunate turn of events that stopped the restoration. I look forward to following you two. This is a ton of work, but the rewards will be huge!
Much of what I know about boat work I learned from your videos. Your channel gave me the courage and tools to tackle my own project, a complete and thorough refitting like Athena's. Now I look forward to setting sail with you on this exciting new adventure, to learn even more! :-) Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Thank you so much! That makes me so happy to hear :)
One thing to remember keeping the cat on the hard in Florida is definitely not the same as in Denmark...you will need deep pockets to pay the yard fees.....in my opinion the cat is absolutely worth nothing.. ..the only value is the two engines maybe a couple of thousand dollars each......Bryan .( I used to like his videos very much).....something else to think about .... Bryan will have to pay several thousands of dollars to have the cat broken up and disposed of .....please don't make the same mistake as last time when you paid far to much for your last boat from Scotland.........Mads this cat is worth nothing....only the two engines bring some value........
Sometimes it can pay off to let the yard do some of the more tedious job, e.g. sanding or painting.
That would make one a customer, so one could probably negotiate a much lower yard fee.
I agree, find another boat, one that is liveable while you repair/refit. And do you really need two boats, or are you planning to sell Athena after years of work?
Definate nope!
Every time he talks about doing another boat I get flashbacks of him tearing off Athena's toe rail...
It's just a little moisture in the core here and there...
Hi Mads. You are absolutely the right man for this 🙂 You have got the skill and the experience needed for such a big project. You know what it will take regarding work, time and money and you also have the stamina to see it through! I really look forward to years of good project videos 🙂
Regards from Thorstein (the norwegian guy that visited you onbord Athena when it stood on land in Skive marina).
We watched Brian's rebuild start. Looks much better than it did when he bought it.
Hello from Siesta Key Florida
You must enjoy sanding.
WOW, better you than me but then again you are Mad(s). I would think you should get the boat for $1.00 That is about the value. Nobody (very very few) will touch that boat as is. It is destined to be scrapped after it sits for a bunch more years. Re-built submerged saltwater engines....little value in the big picture. - We know you can do it, but get into it right. Or just head south after the next hurricane & have your choice of projects. I think I will buy stock in 3M (sandpaper) & Makita.
Not Makita, Mads is a Bosch fanboy.,
Hi. It has been a long time since i been following one of your videos. So nice to see you. You are not scared starting a new project. I just want to wish you all the best. Best wishes from Norway
Oh great! A “handyman special!”
Would recommend it for no-one else but you, Mads! 😀
Is that Bryan's cat? I called it in the last videos comments 😅
You are correct… a 44 Antares. I just watched Bryans last video and the patch work on the starboard side matches up.
Quite a series of videos Bryan put together at @bryansailing on CZcams.
@@johngreenlee7662 he was doing an interesting job, would love to see that finished
If I were in your shoes, and if a “damaged” boat is an acceptable starting point, then I would be looking at putting my effort into something with intrinsic value like a decent size Swan from the 90’s. Your REALITY is that you project is your passion (sailing) but also your business - and your business is CONTENT. Whilst this cat project might well deliver better content (?) will it deliver on the passion? Nobody ever lay in their deathbed saying “wish I’d owned a catamaran” but some may well have said “I’m happy I owned a Swan” 😂
I am very happy for you two, Mads and Ava! The DIY theme of your channel will evolve into a male/female oriented DIY catamaran project. Wish the video didn’t end, but now I have to wait another week for an update.
I can't think of anyone better to take up the torch from Bryan and complete this revival. You and he are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of style but, as far as I can tell from Bryan's videos, completely aligned on quality of the finished product. I'm rooting for you!
You spent eight years rebuilding Athena into a very capable S/V, you will do no less with a cat!!
If you & the Misses will be happy with it, make it so!!!
😁🤙
No...focus on monohulls. Maybe a Bob Perry, Alden, Ted Hood, Walter Schulz, Ted Brewer, or Chuck Paine design. Or a Stevens 49. Possibly a Kelly-Peterson KP44. Stick with solid bluewater hulls.
Why though? Those are all old school money pits. Look at all the CZcamsrs going to cats, not to mention the market. This is a project where the boat could actually increase in value compared to the amount of money he puts into it. The idea that your boat needs to be a tank to be seaworthy is outdated.
@@viva5724 What are you talking about. You have zero clue. Look at the value of Valiant 40s. Passport 40s, Tayana 52s. They never go down in value. Cats are complete money pits that do nothing but go down in value.
@@SB-nt9fp every one of the boats you mentioned has gone down in value.
Oh Boy, Ava in Man Glitter! Looking forward to lots of Boat Restoration.
Sounds good. You have enough experience to know what you are getting into. Good luck. Russell from NZ
If you want to cruise, walk away. If you want to just rebuild boats, this one could be the next one. Remember, you can make more money but you can't make more time.
Never buy a catamaran with curved glass windows. The Wynns.
Why only cats? I would have thought that went for any boat
Agree, a curved window is a leak waiting to happen, and not the edible kind....
But Mad’s can easily deal with it, he’s much more experienced in DIY.
Eliminate the curved windows if they need replacement.
Mine never leaked in 5 years of ownership of the same boat.
Wow, that looks like years of work. But, if you are willing, I'm willing to watch. Stay safe.
Aw man Athena is soooo nice. Back to the grind. I think the built in "carport" feature of a catamaran is for sure a bonus. Have fun!
Bryan has done legit work on that Antari. I was hoping he would finish it. The last video he posted on it he said he was on the fence. I left message telling him to rock it. H was doing a good job fix the cat. It seems indeed for sale legit. If you get this I will be a happy camper! Do watch Bryan’s videos and watch his progress. He did do solid work on it and did look forward to his progress. Stay safe you two!
Unless you can get it for less than $10k, pass.
I'll put down my hot take (and this is based purely on knowledge, with a very, very small personal feeling into it - mostly because it's worth a watch regardless of what you pin down).
1. unless you somehow go into the future and get Ross' (life on the hulls) cat... you're going to dive in a world of absolute scams. I have yet to see a brand of cat, that put out a boat that's not had some kind of corners cut. And we're talking big dough territory here, so if they have the marbles to con big money, imagine what's done on lower price point units. All in all, they can be disasters. Either in their past (hence the block out) or waiting to happen. There's an entire community built around the refit of these things.
2. complication. twin hulls, twin engines, twin rudders, twin headaches. Both in fixing, maintaining and "other shoe drops" situations where Murphy shows up and always has it for you (royal you).
3. They seem bigger, they aren't bigger, unless the entire boat is considerably bigger, where one hull is about the size of a standard common variety boat (i'd say garden variety... but what's a garden on the sea??)
4. this circles back to 1, because they're poorly made, the repairs end up being boatholes.
In closing, i have every bit of confidence you can fix any boat that would ever come your way, in your abilities, my trust is absolute, been following since picture format. It's the time vs crap shoveling that needs to be assessed. IMO, before YT's purpose is discussed, you should asses your (both of yours) point of view in this. I'm looking at Ross and his missus, and they're feeling the burn. I can tell. Luckily for them, they've gone past the point of the horizon and have the end in sight, but there's sooo many who have gone and touched the cat sands and .... just couldn't do it. I do feel YT's format has created a bit of a motivational push, but the reality is this, what's on YT is just the creme of the crop. You know how statistics work.
Dunno, i just don't want to see you guys dive into something you might regret. That said, the decision should be yours and yours alone. Between the two of you.
For myself, i have no horse in it, there's sanding regardless of what boat you're digging in. ;)
I personally would add that a project boat should be sailed at least as many years as the project took before looking to replace it unless the end result was totally unusable and unsuitable such as the BSO Seeker.
Sooo, your saying you don't like catamarans :)
Oof da, July in a Florida boatyard. Gonna be steamy!
Good Luck with your new project. You will make it super spiffy!
Quick chat with the Wynns needed.....