Reloading to the Extreme - What Happened?!
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2019
- In typical “One, Two, Skip a few” fashion, Jimmy and Mark fast forward you back to HQ after the Vortex Extreme to give a run down on everything that happened from the moment those reloads left the press to the moment they crossed the finish line at the Vortex Extreme. How did it go? What tips/tricks would they give to the next group of newbie reloaders looking to take their new-found skills to a competition? Would they actually ever do this again? And as we answer those questions, it brings us to the conclusion of our very first podventure. What did you guys think of the series? Are you looking forward to more? Hopefully so, because, well… Whether you like it or not, we have more of these in the works! If you loved this, we’d love to hear your feedback, too, on ideas for future podventures - They could be competition-related, hunting-related, food-related, who knows!
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My biggest incentive to reload is just knowing that I'm not stuck with whatever is in stock at the store and being out of my preferred brand. It's good that these guys are truthful about the fact that it's not fun for everyone.
Was really hoping you guys would like it but something you didn't touch on was that you can save money by reloading at the same time as getting more accuracy out of your hand loads than you can buying factory ammo.
I've been reloading for about a year now and I love it. That being said I am an attention to detail kind of person. My initial goal was to be able to provide my own accurate ammo without having to rely on the local stores for factory ammo. Mission accomplished.
You did not talk me out of reloading, I love it. I also love cars, re loading is the same as fine tuning the car. It was said on this adventure. Everything is as perfect as it can be and the human is the variable. Just in racing if you red light, or break out it is the human.
This was very fun and entertaining, and I did learn a few thing thank you!!!
I like the honesty. some people find the tedious work relaxing. I'm looking at getting into not only reloading, but bullet swaging b/c some of the bullets i want to shoot are not available, and when they are, are expensive.
Suns up , sights up !
All ways have two or more Reloading books at your reloading bench.
Podventure was awesome! I’m a fairly new Reloader but you nailed it at the end with the open your browser and look at your tabs😂
And another thing, if you spend $6500 on a rifle setup then you better be reloading. 🤣😂🤣
I love that most people don’t reload. When I go to the range and my target sheet has tiny groups it makes it more enjoyable to see the look on other people’s faces. Reloading can make you appear to be a better shooter than you are.
First of all: you two guys (and Ryan) are a pleasure to listen to. You are the Joes Rogans of the gun podcast!
As a reloader myself, I guess you are right: reloading is not worth the effort (time, money). You are best investing your time in shooting skills and knowledge than reloading your own ammo to maybe gain 1/4MOA. This is even truer as a hunter. You'll never miss a piece at a reasonable distance because of your factory ammo (I belong to group of hunter that prefer to stalk the game than take a long shot). But a lateral wind drift easily can.
There is so much room to improve yourself as a hunter than chasing the MOA to take long shots.
That being said, reloading is a form of knowledge too and I am sure you have learned a thing or two in the journey. Everybody make the same mistakes and will lose a die or two in the process. You can't have all the pieces of the puzzle without the experience and the struggle.
Reloading is also great to make reduced loads with light bullets for practice. This is cheap and you can safely use volumetric measure.
A dressing, inspecting and cooking game podcast would be great.
Cheers from the other side of the pond.
Thank you! And yes indeed - for someone looking to learn as much as possible about the sport and have a lot of fun (If this is truly their passion) then absolutely, they should completely reload!
for me, 1000% agree, i only do for my Hunting boomstix, 300 rounds max for sure, but i love doing those 300 rounds!
Very cool adventure. I don't own a gun nor will I, but this was quite a story. Enjoyed the process.
LOL Dude , you didn't load for YOUR RIFLE !.. So you essentially made your own "Factory rounds" The other guy just GOT lucky !
For me, reloading is about cartridge availability, and cost. I have a .270 WSM and I live in Canada. There are only two cartridges available locally. I can either buy a 130 grain Win Deer Season XP, or a 140 grain Nosler Trophy Grade Accubond. I haven't started reloading, but I am interested in the Lyman setup with the turret press, because it is easier to deal with reloading one caliber without having to change dies, so I might go that route next year (unless I manage to find the $$ this year) - and besides cartridge availability, I have 200 pieces of brass for the rifle, 160 of them are from Federal Premium ammo I fired from that rifle, and another 2 boxes of the Deer XP I picked up and am shooting this summer, from that rifle. 1 box of Deer Season XP is $100, 1 box of the Nosler Trophy Grade is $150... I can buy 1000 primers for $12, I can buy 8 pounds of H4831SC for less than $400, which would make a bit more than 900 rounds (using about 60 grains per, though I'm guessing, and might use a bit more or less, but that's a safe ballpark). And I can buy boxes of 145 grain Hornady ELD-X, or boxes of 130, 140, 150 grain Nosler AB, or even the latest and greastest 150 grain Nosler ABLR. 100 rounds of the ELD-X is $90, while the Nosler rounds are about double that amount, but either way, every single cartridge I would make would be considerably less expensive than buying them retail. To make them myself, 6 boxes of Hornady ELD-X cartridges would cost me $225, and 6 boxes with a Nosler round would cost me $345. Buying 6 boxes of ELD-X (and they aren't even available here..) would cost about $600 retail, and 6 boxes of the Nosler would cost me about $900 retail!!!! I can buy the Lyman® Ultimate Reloading System for $1000, and add $80 for the dies for my caliber, and add an Annealeez for $400, and I'm at $1500 to be able to reuse my brass a whole lot more than I would otherwise. I'm planning on getting my muzzle threaded, and I'll be adding an MDT comp brake - and I can't wait. But I'm four years late on this reply, since I just started watching your vids a few months back. Ryan has replied to a few of my emails, and I am also considering the new Viper HD in a 3-15 ... But that's not part of this story. Cheers!
I know I’m a little late to the party, and I already have reloading equipment because I was sold on reloading before this. One thing I am considering because of this though is competition, whereas I had never considered that before.
Here's the thing about reloading. Depending on the caliber and ammo you're using you could see a cost savings on ammo. If you're the type of person who uses match grade ammo you will see a cost savings. Course that cost savings could get you to actually shoot more negating the cost benefit. LOL.
The second thing is you get to taylor the ammo to your gun. You guys said you saw a significant improvement in precision in Marks rifle. You guys were using book loads so I suspect Mark just got lucky with finding a great combination for his rifle. Jimmy could possibly do the same with his rifle depending on its potential.
The third thing is ammo shortages. My understanding is that during times of shortages the reloading components last longer on the shelves before going out of stock than manufactured ammo. It allows you to stock up on stuff easier than just stocking up on ammo. That also enables you to shoot more during ammo shortages than a person who doesn't reload because they have to worry about how they're going to restock their ammo as to where a reloader won't have too if they stock up.
But this depends on how much you like shooting. If you're just a hunter then it probably doesn't make all that much of a difference. If however you like to shoot a lot then the benefits are there.
My reason for loading was I could buy the most premium bullets on the market when I first started loading and load them for less than what it cost it to buy the cheapest loaded ammunition and knew my powder was in the cases. I have bought Hornady ammunition, Winchester ammunition and federal premium ammunition that didn't have powder in the cases. Two to three shelves per 20 round box. That would be cute with a wild bore charging you
And I've also bought federal premium ammunition 7 mag 165 grain. The ammunition varied over the chronograph 600 feet per second shot to shot went from 30-30 velocity to 3000 ft per second velocity at 300 yards. The bullets would vary three two and a half to 3 ft elevation
It’s pretty hard to compare factory ammo and hand loaded ammo in 6.5 creedmoor due to the fact that hornady designed the chamber and the cartridge at the same time. This being said factory ammo for the 6.5 cm is made to shoot extremely well in every rifle. If you look at other cartridges like 308 7 Rem Mag 300 win mag and so on. The bullet was made and then the chamber or vise versa, I reload for my 7 Rem Mag because you cannot find factory ammo that will shoot bug holes.
Y'all should have way more viewers.
Thank you!
More Realistic than reality TV.
the guys ammo was cooking in the bag..
The kestrel was originally designed as a wind meter and my father was using it in conjunction with the cox box for sculling. He did shoot but it was later management that really brought out the shooting aspect and ballistics software.
Don't know if the kestrel still has it as a logo on the back but it should say nielsen-kellerman
Do a 10 min talk update on this. After 4 years, do we still reload/not reload
Great Series, especially since it's NOT your companies forte! No, reloading isn't for everyone, just like tearing down a V-8, boring the cylinders and rebuilding with a faster cam is for everyone. I got into reloading because in California .357 Magnum ammo was outrageously expensive and my friend wanted to shoot a lot. I showed him that parts were more available (then) and cheaper, so since it was his pistol, he bought the dies and added them to my collection. I think I made him 800 rounds (.50 cl ammo box) for the price of 3 boxes of ammo.
I reload because I have several pistols and AR's, so I'm more into mass production then precision, especially since I don't normally shoot past 200 yards.
im sure a lee classic hand loader, reloading a 20 round box with the one rifle. can carry a hunter for a very very long time. for me i prefer the short sessions over the marathon ones. even with my single stage 300 rounds really tires me out. a more enjoyable session would be having 3 rifle boxes 60 rounds, always keep 10 factory fresh, reload the 50 rounds. you can anneal the brass with a bees wax candle. you could very easily get 600+ firings from those 50 rounds.
Glad to know not get into reloading. LMAO 'We're gonna need another camera - time for lunch'
I would rather reload than make or even eat burritos.
That might be crossing the line😂
I think the advantage of having pros teach you everything was actually a disadvantage. When you have to figure it all out on your own, it forces you to understand fundamentally why and how to do each step. It sounds like you guys are still failing to grasp some of the fundamentals still
There's definitely pros and cons, however some advice is much needed!
Soo, what I am hearing is that Jimmy has an arts degree, not a bachelors of science. Lol
Eh, technically an economics degree, but what's the difference? All we did was draw graphs all day, so it was basically art class.
Let’s see… 300 rounds equals 15 boxes at $50 a box. $750 versus 1/4 of that to reload?. For taxes paying you way too much money.