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- What Is A High Value Man? HEATED Debate w/F&F, @destiny, Sneako & @RolloTomassi
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Date: 10 May, 2023
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What Is A High Value Man? HEATED Debate w/F&F, @destiny, Sneako & @RolloTomassi (FULL PODCAST)
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Ngl, The most fun I have had watching fresh n fit.
50:44 Sneako let the man stand up 💀
52:15 DAN MOMENT
Sneako and destiny r right
Rollo is nothing more than a dusty fart.
not going to lie, Destiny and Sneako are a dangerous combo
Facts. I was bursting out laughing the entire time
Not really tbh...The Dude is just dumb
For real lol. They straight eviscerated him. Absolutely no mercy
The whole thing gave me end-of-Whiplash vibes, with D as Fletcher, delighted at the debate monster he’s created
Front brain and hind brain working together.
Love them together. Now if Sneako and Aba could make up. Oof that would be a dangerous trio and am here for it.
We’ve reached “A high value man is someone who identifies as high value.” 😂
LMAO! Facts!
Lol
That's dumb. A high value man is someone who represents something above others. I think they are confused with an alpha male. Alpha males can be poor and living in the woods for all we know but alpha male is a mindset not a position in society.
It's the same energy as, "I'm a 10 because I feel like it!" 😂😂
Lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂
A man calling himself a "High value man" is the equivalent of a woman calling herself a "10"
women can be a 10 if they are a virgin who was raised to be a wife and mother
Finding a 10 is like finding a unicorn. Good luck 🍀
Ouuuf good point!!
Ouuuf good point!!
finding a high value man is like finding a unicorn
High value men aren’t listening to the Fresh and Fit podcast
Nah we do, it’s entertaining man. I watch for RP dudes exposing themselves as frauds.
They might watch to laugh at them, but not to actually listen or take them seriously.
or any podcast really haha
You are not high value though. So you are proving his point @@Bro-dot-
@@karabomothupi9759 lol what makes you say that? Actually my bad maybe you just know better.
Seeing Sneako go from "You never get tired of new pussy" to advocating for families is a character arc I didn't know I needed
@@EventualWarlord not if one wants a larger part of the pie...
post modernism destroys it doesn't create shit.
Sneako the Gray Cuk. That was my name. *I* am Sneako the White Truth and I come back to you now - at the turn of the tide.
Later that night he picks up a new French chick on the after hours show in front of xena his other chick
@@shelbyspeaks3287 lol people are still afraid of post modernism? You're like 6 years behind on the internet.
@@nope9698 because frankly that's where noble savagery comes from, today y'all motherfuckers talk outta your ass and demand respect from people without compromise and that's *never been* how the world has worked, that's how the "post-modern" muh truth is god world works.
You can tell Fresh felt stupid afterwards for confidently thinking that Rollo was going to come in and steam roll the debate 😭
Doesn’t bro feel stupid on a daily?😂
How can you tell?
Rollo fell off HARD
Fresh it’s too slow to know what’s even going on half the time
@RightSideTV bro😂, you're a hater, but you made my day
I’m amazed at how incapable the man on the right is in making his point. It seems to be from his own uncertainty
nope, even on topics he’s supposedly versed in, its the same
Beans
never thought I'd be seeing ross on the political debate side of CZcams
@@ashe_xoxyo facts this is inception
Love y’all’s stuff
1. Sterilize yourself
2. Lift to look good
3. Surround yourself with other men like you.
4. Get a bunch of uniforms.
5. IT'S FUN TO STAY AT THE Y.M.C.A!
I dont know why but this is sending me over the moon rn 😭
DEAD @@newayschile1135
The Young Men's Christian Association has spent almost two hundred years helping to take care of children in need, housing otherwise homeless working men, and being a beacon of support for local communities through charitable acts and advocacy. They advocate a lifestyle of maintaining a healthy mind by building a healthy body, and that's why they freely offer fitness classes and equipment at their facilities.
I just wanted you to know that. Most people only know of the disco song and don't understand the subject that inspired it.
@@generaljackripper666 I fully support any charitable organization, even if it's religious, makes up a tiny bit for the indoctrination of children from an early age before their mental defenses are in place.
I have a strong dislike for religion because I am autistic and it was not long ago I would've been exorcised for my symptoms, which was apparently fully allowed by most gods worldwide.
I'm not American so you are right in that I'm ignorant of what the YMCA is (only the song made it over here), I was simply just making a joke based on my autistic pattern recognition, trying to lighten up peoples day a tiny bit. However I love learning so thank you for that information!
@@generaljackripper666 It also attracted alot of gay men
When he accidentally made the "a woman is someone who identifies as a woman," argument for what a high value man is I almost lost it.
Sadly this is what happens when people give way too much attention to someone with middling ideas and middling intellect. They get used to bullying people into silence because they have a chorus who will back them up and they never learn to defend their ideas. Eventually they only know how to call those who disagree with them some version of a heretic who doesn't have the divine wisdom. This is what Rollo's insults early in the conversation amounted to and his continued insistence that they just didn't get it. Of course they didn't get it. His belief is religious rather than rational just like the leftist ideas are about womanhood, and they aren't part of the religion.
I half expected Matt Walsh to jump out and ask if we know what a circular definition is.
I'm shocked neither Sneako nor Destiny called him out for begging the question as a fallacy.
Exactly, Thank you!! 🤣🤣🤣
The only reason why a guy should listen to what other dudes define as “high value” is if they want to impress/date dudes.
Rollo has the unique ability to say a lot of words without saying anything
Honestly. Like what the hell. I don't think he actually made a single actual point in the entire fucking clip. Just kept repeating the same vague phrases over and over and getting unreasonably angry for no reason.
So unique that he shares it with a quarter of the internet 😂
It's a fundamental talent of all pseudo-intellects.
Like most bull 💩artists.
He’s like the red pill jordan Peterson
45:10 "You disagree with the Grandmaster?" "The Godfather?" "The Great Great Grandaddy?" "The Grand Wizard of the Redpill?" Lmfao saying this shit to Myron's face had him in a spiral
Almost sounds like a KKK leader. 😅
He definitely spiraled 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Rollo is so illogical it’s unbelievable. He’s living in dream world. He should admit that he messed up real bad. F&F are riding him real hard whilst the irrational male continues to get ripped apart.
Myron was being a big objective. Fresh was being a yes man and came off like a dummy with his incoherent rambling.
If you ever listen to his channel it’s kinda conspiracy like. He has these elaborate theories about women and different types of women that can really only be describe as theory crafting. He just concocts these elaborate theories which in some senses can be logical but have no basis in reality.
Seeing destiny and sneako unite was like seeing goku and frieza fight together in the tournament of power.
Edit: Someone please make fan art of this
Amazing comparison! I love dragonball! I love to WAFFLE STOMP my poo down the shower drain also.
But fo real tho I love dB
ONG!
@@WitkowskisFishingSickness You forgot to add a BatChest to this comment
He even has the blue hair
@@PocketDong And Sneako with the Frieza shaped dome 💀💀
Rolo: "I can't define what a high value man is."
Also Rolo: "Ben Shapiro, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos are definitely not high value men."
exactly its term that can mean whatever you want it to mean, whenever you want it to mean it
@@skylerthompson4344
"What is a woman?"
My problem is that he seems to be under the impression that high value men are influential and rich, and focus on their business and that’s it, but all three of those examples encapsulate that perfectly and they somehow aren’t his definition of a high value man? There is a clear incongruity or he just doesn’t actually believe any of it and says it solely because “high value man” gets the manosphere buzzed
Typical buzzword garbage. It's necessary for it to be ill-defined because then you can choose when it does or doesn't apply. Hasan, Vaush, Destiny, even Noah Samsen are high value men by the terms red pillers lay out, but they can't admit those guys are or it undermines their schtick.
@@skylerthompson4344these men are very successful according to “their terms” 🤣
Rollo is a big talker. That's the extent of his existence. A 55 year old insulting young men for calling him out on his unsubstantiated bullshit doesn't look good.
Redpillers are so massively insecure, it is almost comical, but actually is really sad. Rollo is the saddest case
Rollo lost the debate when he said "Fresh is the voice of reason" 😂
Sneako destroyed Rollo. Sneako was the rational male and Rolla was a 7 years old girl in this conversation. How can you take something serious what this "little girl" is saying? Rollo lost all of his credibility.
@@Master-Key-To-SuccessThe worst thing is that Sneako can't even debate really. It's just that the position of "literally neuter yourself" is so absurd that it can't be defended. Oh and Rollo is possibly the worst debater I've ever seen.
Love when the rivals join forces to defeat a more evil threat
They're not even rivals
Sneako has a good heart. Just misunderstood and needs to get his head back on his shoulder. Anyways I know this is gonna sound out of the ordinary but there's no such thing as "high value" because humans are a "slave race" and you don't need to be a conspiracy theorist on the illuminati or reptilians to know that.
It really do be Sonic Adventure 2
Avengers level shit here.
@@Fembro 😂😂
Destiny and Sneako permanently altering the redpill landscape in less than an hour. What a convo
Does anyone know if Sneako ever used to drink? It looks like he's going through what happens when you stop
@@thecontextual1one411lmao it’s a new arc idk if it’s a sobering one
@@thecontextual1one411some kind of sobering, i think it was the charlie arc and the almost burned bridge of destiny that he finally took a retrospective. so i think he hit the bottom of the barrel in terms of popularity and so he’s finding out where he fucked up.
@@tylercarter9965 it’s called getting canceled
The whole ideology crumbles to just the question what is high value maN?
This shit never gets old lmao. I come back and rewatch like once a month
Me2 😂
Literal gold mad I missed it live
same
This combo is deadly. Sneako provides the burns and the funny responses to the obvious, and then Destiny is the smart soccer mom that backs her kid up no matter what.
Destiny is not smart 😅
@@RDA8191 Smarter than Sneako that’s for sure
@@RDA8191 destiny looks like einstein compared to everyone at this table. fresh and fat even make sneako look reasonable
@@RDA8191tell me where he shows stupidity?
if Destiny is not smart than explain what he was wrong about
Now we know why Rollo avoided to debate Destiny at all costs
They just debated for 4 hours . Rollo kmows his shit.
@@APOC_USMC Just going off of this debate, shit's about all he knows.
@@NotTheOnlyMattAround😂 good one
@@theprospect5888 of course he didn’t 😂
Debated both sneaky & bluebell on f&f, sneaky slouched off with brain fatigue 1/4 way in, bluebell argued semantics, used exceptions to argue the age old rules of biology, survival, basic factors leading to the creation of civilizations from the cave man onwards
F&F realizing they've dug themselves into a hole by mindlessly defending Rollo is so funny. Look at their faces when SNEAKO asks them if they're listening to what Rollo says
F&F have same degenerate mindset
They couldn’t call out a rapist on their show. I didn’t expect them to go against Grandpa Rollo.
@@paarker who's the rapist they couldn't call out?
This man is the Godfather of not answering what a High Value Man is 😂
Thats crazy that a grown ass man can't just acknowledge that he messed up on some wording. He would have looked so much better just admitting he mistyped or had a bad idea..
The fact that Rollo can balance on a fence for almost an hour is absolutely amazing for someone his age
I genuinely have never seen someone dodge a question for this long. Would consider it impressive if he weren't so stupid
Our politicians can and they’re much older … jus sayin’😅
Joe Biden has been balancing on a fence for 180 years.
rollo came off as one of the people they interviewed for the "what is a woman" documentary
“A high value man is anyone who identifies as a high value man” - The Redpill Godfather
Rollo went full postmodernist
God it’s literally the feminist and trans movement now 😂😂😂
So A homeless can be a High Value Men according to Rollo 😂😂
What is a woman?
What is a man?
A high value man is, among other things, a man who doesn't watch people like these, nor their shows, who doesn't talk about high value anything cause he's busy having meaningful interests, meaningful conversations and occupations.
This is good to listen to for laughs while driving though.
True. I don't take any of this seriously, but it's funny.
Yeah as long as you have inner value and do with your life what you want or have a consistent goal that is way better than caring about how someone in society who doesn't know you feel.
I like to play piano and draw :3
Red pill civil war arc went crazy
Fresh&Fit and Rollo are the ironic examples of what happens when men think about women too much.
For real for real. Pretty much a lifestyle shaped around pleasing women while shitting on women. Becoming a "high value man" who have a thousand experiences of sleeping with girls and grinding money to get the ideal woman… Who is likely either A) Won't even like a man who has slept with so many girls and like to shit on women, or B) A woman who is exactly the kinda shitty women they love to describe; the gold diggers who don't mind you being a wild asshole who sleep with many women but may cheat on you & steal your money. The prophecy self-fulfills and the vicious RP cycle continues…
yeah, but when it comes to fnf, they are living in delusion. They associate the kind of women in Miami and the type of yacht boys to be the only type of people out there. Men automatically wanting to cheat if they can is total bs. They think men are animals who have no agency.
💯
@@Wonderwoman79G nice seeing you here sister.....arent you loving the redpill demise as me😂😂😂
A bunch of loser nerds when they were younger in school and grew up and got a little bit of money and attention.
Sneako look at how much POWER you have over these dudes when you have an actual sense of reason and intelligence when you team up with Destiny. Look at how the old man crumbles at just ONE QUESTION.
Sneako never shies away from his position even if his Wrong
WTF is up with Sneako? Is he a troll
@@IAmAllEyes no hes an actually smart guy who did dumb shit and experienced dumb shit to ride the algorythm. Now after Charlie, Muta,Hamza and the rest of the internet clowned on him he travelled the world ,and is a lot calmer. I think he trying to change for the better. Hes still younger than 25 so hes got time
@@tiktokasylum5186 frrr
It feels like a hostile takeover 💀
I will never call a guy named Rollo thats tiny, with long hair and glasses the "godfather" of anything. He defends the "manisphere" like its his child. Its an embarrassment that men have actually looked up to this small man. I pray he will find the correct path before his short time he has remaining has come to an end. Thanks Destiny
I generally disagree with Rollo, but attacking his appearance hardly provides valuable criticism.
@@L_videogame these men run a cult pf personality. Their appearance does factor in to the persona that they have created to deceive people
Huge L of a comment. The fact you're talking about his appearance as if it has any bearing on what he's preaching, shows you have no idea how to debate or challenge someone intellectually. It doesn't matter if he's the world's strongest man or a pencil neck nerd. He preaches stupid crap and that's what is addressed period. I hope you don't vote based on this type of mindset.
@@L_videogameHis entire claim to fame is being an expert on being successful with women. As it turns out being physically attractive is part of being successful with women. Therefore in Rollo's case his physical appearance is absolutely relevant. Because being physically attractive is part of being successful with women. It isn't the only part but to pretend as if it's not relevant is disingenuous.
I've never seen anyone get destroyed on the internet harder than I just watched Rollo Tomasi get destroyed.
Humiliating
Rollo trying to threaten them by saying debate me in person while his voice is shaking from malding so much is fucking hilarious
Pretty sure Milo thought the same way and we all know how that turned out
you can see his heart rate pulsing in his neck
it's like "fight me bro!" energy right there
MALDING FROM THE DISRESPECT, BELITTLING AND SARCASM BECAUSE THEIR ARE NOT HEARING HIS POINT LIKE LITTLE BITC HES.
@@seby171 what’s a high value man?
I love how he says repeatedly “you two don’t belong in this space” like the red pill space is some prestigious institution and not just a bunch of insecure dudes with podcasts
on god
The redpill used to make some decent points before now it’s just a whole ass circus 🎪 lol
@@Zyrock every movement - no matter how well-intentioned, almost always devolves into grifting...
@@CEWIII9873 agreed yea, I could see that
@@CEWIII9873
For real i remember coming accross red pill stuff like 10 years ago and it was mainly men talking about being shafted in family courts and male suicide, with a fair bit of bashing online feminism. Now look at them all clutching their pearls at the faintest hint of criticism, droning on about body counts god its so pathetic.
A high value man is that guy on the maternity floor who hasn't left his wife's side through labor and the rest of her stay, hits the cafeteria to get his wife some of that good food, aggravates the nurses everytime she feels the slightest discomfort or can't sleep, and is always showing up at the nursery to take the baby back to the room because he just can't stand to let someone else get to be with the baby more than he does 😂 ❤
That's my husband ❤
❤❤❤❤
High value man covers his wife and daughter with his body when bullets are flying. 😢
Rolo was just on here saying 'A high value man is someone who identifies as a high value man.'
I feel like I've heard that arguement somewhere else before..
Bro this was fucking hilarious. 2 people who are sometimes at odds teaming up to beat up a confused grandpa. Myron trying to step in at times to clarify Rollo's argument because Rollo can't do it for himself. Sneako asking Myron if he actually agrees with some of the dumb shit Rollo was saying and Myron trying to avoid picking sides. Fresh just watching and laughing in amusement.
I was fcking crying shit was funny af
Watch out he gonna make another video begging aba to metaphoricaly punch him
There’s so much Myron can save bro..
Leave grandpa alone, he has dementia
Destiny will make videos but won’t reply back to any.
I gained a lot of respect for Sneako here. He’s thinking for himself and making a lot of sense. He use to come off as someone trying to fit in with a particular group or another. Sneako has grown a lot and it being more calculated
He's a 🐍. Someone like him cannot be trusted in any group.
He is Muslim now.
@@quantumresonance8201 yeah, I know. I can tell he’s taking it very seriously and learning a lot from it. I think it’s amazing.
let him sneak!!!
He's trying to fit in with Muslims now. Because of the fact that Islam allows polygamy.
Religions have had a long time to figure certain stuff out, and brainwash people accordingly.
Islam comes with a lot of already brainwashed women more ready accepting for a polygamous life.
I don't understand what a High Value man is anymore. When I was young (20 some years ago) a high value man had these qualities: 1. Good work ethic. 2. Humility 3. Strong morals 4. Respectful and
5. Grateful
Not sure when things got so fuct up but it's really sad for men and women.
Wrong. You’re not describing a high value man, you’re describing a moral man. Which definitely plays a part in being a high value man too in my definition, but it’s only a part of it. You gotta have money (resources), you gotta be capable of physical violence if needed (protection) you should be well spoken and understand the human psyche etc. etc.. Nobody is the perfect high value man, but some are definitely closer to being all that than others..
@@ibraahimdureng7482 I’m guessing what you really meant to say was „you can’t say what a high value man is if you’re not one yourself“. So I’ll ask you this; can you define what a murderer is without being a murderer yourself? That should answer your point. Doesn’t have to do anything with the conversation if I’m a high value man myself, but I’ll answer what you asked; no, by my own definition I’m not a high value man yet, even tho I have relatively many attributes of one, for being only 20.
@@ibraahimdureng7482 you didn’t „ask“ anything, you stated something. + why would you state something without wanting a response aka „start something“?
@@jay.420 Okay English isn’t my first language cut me some slack man.
@@ibraahimdureng7482 so? English isn’t my first language either
"There's no such thing as a quality woman" from Grandma Rollo is wild 💀
It's tear jerking seeing Sneako finally pass puberty and become a man in his own right.
He’s on the craziest rollercoaster 🎢 and I’m not sure if I like him again or should just ride this out 😂
@@ll2323 Sneako has always been solid, he just got caught up in some ideas like we all do Sometimes, but harder as the Internet kept pressing him about it.
Battle for Sneako’s soul rages on and, boys and girls, I think we might even win this one! ☺️😢
@@jijijijijiji44 yea I just really was introduced to him through destiny so I don’t know him from before. I’m still holding out though to see how this plays out 😂
He changed opinions like clothes. This will be short lived sadly.
“I can’t cook. I can’t clean. I can’t keep the house in order. I work 60 hours a week. I can’t go grocery shopping. Im also neutered. I’m a high value man”. These people are fucking wild bro. High value? Nah high maintenance
💀💀😭
Oh shit 😂😂😂😂😂
+
I'm saying lol
You just won.
The irony of this video now, knowing Fresh knocked a woman up is off the charts. This tweet was supposed to be "idiot proof" and then Fresh does what he does. It's amazing.
This was fascinating to watch. A combo of someone destroying themselves with the aid of two others destroying them simultaneously.
i like how progressive the RP Godfather is, "a high value man is whatever makes him contextually high value" almost as good as "a woman is someone who identifies as being a woman" 10/10
That makes sense. Because you can't give short answer to woman and high value.
@@kattodoggo3868 Adult human female.
facts
Not at all… if you’re a man in Africa and all you’ve seen is African girls with long necks and 5 inch lip rings, you’d think one of them is a 10. Now bring that same dude to Miami, he’s going to think a 3 is a 10. It’s about context. You can kinda see this, when when going from high school to college. Girls I grew up with I used to be obsessed with were mid as fuck I didn’t realize it until I seen badder girls. A high value man in America is different than a high value man in Dubai or India. It’s about context. A girl can be a 5 in Miami but a 8 in Wisconsin that’s just a fact
A high value man is a man who has been able to competently navigate the social landscape and has positioned himself in a functional hierarchy.
"Here's the fastest way to become a good engineer"
"what's an engineer?"
"Idk that's different for everybody"
The basis of his argument. 😆
you can be computer engineer, construction engineer, electrical engineers etc. But there is an abstract framework, that works for any concrete engineer.
@@mareklame8589 Nah dude, that abstract framework is bs, trust me I am indian and I would know. I got a cousin who graduated in Comp.Sci and another friend who did Mechanical. Very different fields. Any kind of " abstract framework " is akin to the bullshit life advice you see on youtube or read in books. Great to hear but practically serves no purpose.
Actually proved his point.
"Here's the fastest way to become an engineer"
"well what exactly do you define as an engineer?"
"These steps work with whatever type of engineer someone wants to be. Whether the field it's electrical, mechanical, aerospace, or civil engineering".
Simple to grasp when you don't have an ego.
@@prachetasnayse9709 no, I'm Polish and I know. There are steps: 1. Learning fundamentals. 2. Getting degree. 3. Staying healthy. 4. Having sharp mind. 5. Doing vasectomy. 6. Getting practical skills. 7. Finding good internship. 8. Finding mentyors & building network.
@@prachetasnayse9709then you obviously don't know what engineer means
“Dumbledore has spoken,” is straight gangster.
I'm so tired of every debate collapsing because people object to the entire idea of definitions and categories. If someone if being that obtuse, then the debate should just be forfeited.
Destiny and Sneako are the duo we didnt know we needed. Absolutely lethal.
Shocking, indeed.
As shocking as President Sunday + Destiny?
Shockingly Satisfying
The destroyed him VERY easily. Literally no diff
Needed? 😂wtf
@@coimbralaw Absolutely LETHAL and NEEDED and ASTONISHING
The most embarrassing part of this was not Rollo being unable to make any point or own any position, but was Fresh and Fit defending him to the death. That looked really bad on their part and surely will have lost them fans. They sounded insane.
@Therethere OMG, ok, so to me, being a high value man is being a woman, a.k.a. Destiny.
@Therethere And nobody ever even addressed how if 'high value man' is to be given your own definition, the 8 steps he provides to get there fastest remain the same.
So if your own idea of 'high value' involves having children in your 30s, you should still get a vasectomy in your 20s???
@@thegrinderman1090 destiny did make that point, they answered "if that's your definition of a high value man then great" and "the points on the list are not advice". I agree it's just a dumb position to die on, if your definition of high value man is subjective then the points on the list aren't facts as to how you can get to it the fastest it's just pointless words enumerated.
@Therethere BRO THEY FOLDED😂😂, and Sneako was spot on they would have clowned girls for taking that exact take
@Therethere 😊
Destiny is really hitting him with the wallops. A huge part of a mans desirability is his genetic viability. If you've nerfed your nuts you've taken away a huge part of your value to a high value woman.
18:10 "Whoa Brandon Carter doesn't have to do his laundry. Sick. What else are gonna do with your life" lmao
Seeing Destiny and Sneako join forces like this is the most wholesome thing I've seen in a long time.
I had a smile so wide across my face watching this yesterday
@@crownsubject Yeah he was just trying to avoid burning the bridge with Rollo which makes no sense since they are way more successful than him.
for real, could make a netflix show off it lmao
Ok Redditor..
They both got douchenozzled hard tho.
Sneako really took the whole "if you strike me down now, i will become more powerful than you could ever imagine " to the next level. 2 months ago he was a laughing stock, now hes exposing the same atmosphere that lead him down that path. Absolutely inspiring
Edit: stop arguing in the comments lol I'm just happy Sneako seems to have grown from the whole thing.
I think he'ds just asking questions... lol
@@ashleyalexander7388 asking questions is the first step to finding answers though. it means he’s actually thinking
He's still a laughing stock
@@foraminutethere23 idk about you but I’m definitely taking him more serious. Before he was somewhat delusional, near unhinged with his behavior, and his beliefs were standing on a weak foundation that if poked even a little he’d go berserk. Now he stands true to his beliefs, listens more, asks great questions, and pushes back more on people he doesn’t agree with in a respectful manner. It’s like watch a teen mindset grow into an adult mindset over the span of a few months.
@@LamarAlreadyTaken His views change so much because he's doing what he thinks will get him views or keep him popular. Like he's not going to get those RP/manosphere views anymore because people will keep calling him a cck and mock him for that. So he's moving on into the next thing/group he can latch onto
Like you don't really know what he truly thinks and feels but he's convinced you of that.
protect Destiny at all costs ,he’s the best person ive seen on this podcast . unapologetically speaking them facts and im here for it. he hilarious too ,they absolutely roasted dude 😂😂
imagine being 50yrs old and having this conversations
I had no idea Fresh was even capable of forming sentences…good for him.
He’s a little confused but he’s got the right idea
Far as I know he had a really bad speech impediment, probably went to a speech coach
It's a good start. The next step is for the sentences to have any meaning.
@Ayame Hachi didn't know that, good for him if it's true.
Bro is literally a goblin
Destiny and Sneako sitting quietly with the same body language and expression while this guy rages is absolutely meme worthy
Reminded me of The Good Doctor "I AM A SURGEON" meme. Same energy
The way Myron and the other guy talk about this stuff all day every day and are still wrong about everything is so sad
Destiny vs Sneako : 😴
Destiny x Sneako : 🗿🗿
Rollo refusing to define a HVM and then proceeding to call out certain men as not HVM is beyond me. He should have played the humility card but decided to steamroll himself instead.
Humility and Rollo don’t go together. His ego is massive and his character is shallow.
The man gets annoyed when people don’t kiss his feet, like Adam Sosnick, who decides to interview someone Rollo doesn’t like.
Adam is supposed to know this and act accordingly…. How dare he not spend his time googling Rollo’s latest drama.
The grandpa could fall out with his own shadow.
Look at the mad stare and downturned mouth. He’s like a mad woman. I’ve met women who act and pull the same faces as Rollo. That’s what Rollo secretly wants to be: a bitter old woman. He’s got the hair and face for it.
Exactly. He can’t define what he built his whole career off.
@@paarker Don't bring or equate women into this conversation. There isn't one woman involved in this nonsense. This is an delusional old man trying to damn hard to prove no points.
He knows that they would turn his definition against him.
Thank you. If he wants to say that a HVM is whatever each person thinks it is. Then he can’t say if anyone is a high value man or not.
Fresh: "Destiny and Sneako do you think you'd be where you are if you had a child young?"
*Destiny chuckling before scoring the biggest dunk on Fresh*
Sneako: "ACTUALLY DESTINY DID HAVE A KID YOUNG!"
Fresh was so embarrassed 🙈
Timestamp?
@@ImJustJordan215 watch the first 10 mins
@@solaireastora5394 thanks 🙏🏾 6:35
coconuts in barbados
Fresh is really not smart but he tries so hard. The godfather of the red pill is stupid too
Money is not a measure of a man's worth. It's a combination of qualities. Money is nice but you can have a amazing life without being obsessed with money.
Destiny and Sneako teaming up is always a blast to watch
So the Whole Fresh & Fit ppl Bow to this GrandLord GodDad ?
Right??!
@@TubeWusel I never heard of this dude but i definitely won't listen to a thing he has to say now 🤣
When do they team up?
For real 🤣
Ahh, the classic "protagonist and antagonist team up against a common enemy"
Love to see it😂
straight up, Sneako got that Vegeta energy
Gurren lagann moment
I am dead lmao 😂
It’s like when the X-men and magneto team up
Anti hero
If I didn't have a kid when I was 21, I would definitely have ended up in jail
I'm no destiny fan but destiny is definitely important because he is the only person I've seen who can debate redpill ideology with clear and concise arguments. I don't agree with most of his points but he is a god tier debater 💯✊🏾
I love that destiny is mostly just silently laughing at Rollo getting dumpstered by Sneako for the first 8 minutes of the debate
IS THAT HOW YOU INTERPRET THAT. HE'S LAUGHING CAUSE HE'S A WEAK ASS MOFO WHO DIVERTS MOST ARGUMENTS JUST TO ARGUE LIKE A DELUSIONAL WOMAN WITH SOME LEVEL OF DEBATING SKILLS.
Coz I think destiny can't comprehend how much of a overhyped fuck up this Grandfather of Godman is XD ~ its like 1st time he's experiencing Disaster launch of Cyberpunk 2077 with over hype and barely working game.
I'm not even a Destiny fan (I disagree with probably 90% of his politics) and I disagree fundamentally with most of what sneako has said, but I absolutely love this combo. They're being logically consistent, advocating for men to do more than make fuckloads of money and have sex with hundreds of women, and calling out 3 guys that are being 100% hypocritical.
Here's to the fall of the manosphere and the rise of good, moral, hardworking, family oriented men and women.
Pin this comment destiny
We will never see the rise of good hard working, family oriented men and women as long as both extreme sides like modern feminism and redpills arent done away with. As long as one lives, we will never achieve that. I dont see your last sentence happening in the near future
@@vinceee_r I do not disagree, but I sure can hope
Thisss!!!!
Yup. ❤
When Myron seems reasonable, you know Rollo is ...🗑
24:14 and onwards as you got two guys in the studio explaining Rollo’s position for him that he was too stubborn/too dumb to explain himself and them arguing between each other it is the saddest and funniest thing to watch Rollo Tomassi’s face. This is what dying looks like. This is what an old man realizing he’s done looks like.
Pretty sure a high-value man isn’t someone who resorts to calling others “douche-nozzles” when losing a debate.
give the fossil a break hes new to this
douche nozzles? How old are you bro?
@@svaucyi i think it's the opposite - he's so entrenched in this red pill shit online he can't handle being questioned from outside of it from anyone reasonable. his entire argument crumbles under the barest of scrutiny lol.
nah bro that insults going to get me laid, im takin notes here and going to be drowning in uzzy
@@treesoul00 this guy couldn’t even answer a basic question lmao.
Even if the definition of a high value man varies by person/culture, they would still share underlying aspects and features. This geezer couldn’t give shit but somehow has a list of ways to get to that point. How the fuck do you know when you are a high value man when you don’t even know what the end point looks like lol.
high value man
1. family
2. raise kids to be independent and succesful
3. be a role model to your kid.
thats the best a man could do in his life.
actual high value man :
does what he wants and doesnt let society shape his life (not necessary to make a family or be with a woman)
does not let replaceable things or words bother him
does the right thing and does not become corrupt with power
does not sacrifice his dignity for money and poonani
does not ridicule or exploit the weak, and the stupid, instead he helps them
is ready to die for the honor of his family and loved ones
@@user-kg7zr3yl3nAgreed
Both great viewpoints!
High value man: It depends who is appraising him.
@@user-kg7zr3yl3n This part.
Dude said "ITS NOT ADVICE, ITS JUST STUFF THAT SOMEONE CAN USE TO KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO"
hahahaaha that was literally some of the funniest shit ive ever heard!
There's such a trend of Destiny debating someone who can't define the exact topic of the debate. "What is a high value man?" "What is an NFT?"
There's no way Fresh actually said "you guys are so mean" lmfaooo.
That’s how you know Rollo got bodied 😭
@@JayD73 Fresh from all people
He said that in pet voice too wtf😂😂😂
That’s literally what the girls in their podcasts have said 😂😂
Time stamp?
Rollo: WRITES 30 BOOKS ON HOW TO BECOME A HIGH VALUE MAN!
also Rollo: „I can’t define who a high value man is because everybody defines it differently“
Rollo 30 seconds later: „Ben Shapiro is not a high value man“
Make it make sense.
He is using the same leftist argument on the question „what is a woman“ „a woman is everyone who identifies as a woman“
That’s called a circular argument buddy.
Faacts
Can there be two definitions of woman? I believe so.
One: A woman is a human with XX chromosomes.
Two: a woman is social construct of a human with female appearances or characteristics.
If we accept this two definitions. Is the debate over?
Both sides can be right to a certain extent.
What happens when in the future you can not distinguish beetween a person and a trans person due to science advances in plastic surgery, body editing an genes editing. If you cant distinguish beetween a "real" woman and a trans woman. are you really be whining about the use of the word woman and about how someone is more pure than others. Are you really going to wait until you get advanced tests until you can call someone a "woman". I rather just take it upon their word and what my eyes can see.
It remains me of the people getting mad about the word marriage when debating same sex marriage. Just get over it. Society changes, as do words.
@@fabzals388 Society is not the be all end all. Civilization is temporary at best, and will collapse soon enough, and we will return to nature. Mother Nature rules us all, and tech can't change that. Social advances can't either. One big volcanic eruption, and we are back to the ice age as the ash cloud blots out the sun. Bye bye, civilization.
I can help you understand. He never said he COULDN'T define a high value man, he said he has a definition but it was irrelevant to the tweet. He said this many times. You can advocate for others becoming their best selves, doesn't mean "their best selves" must align with your goals.
A woman is a person that has feminine features and prefer to be identified as such: a woman.
Easy leftist definition for you.
Man, this was hillarious 😂😂 Credits for containing your laughter like you did Destiny, I would have bursted out in uncontrollable laughter probably
Sneako and destiny could have had their own podcast but obviously things have changed so much
Imagine being in your 50s defending a dogwater tweet and getting called out by Sneako for being immature and emotional, and then still trying to tell others that they're the terminally online ones
actually insane
All he had to do was admit it was a mistake. He’s dying on a hill for no reason. Sheesh
he really tried to defend the insult “dooche schnozzles” as contemporary slang. bro will die on any hill he finds.
This guy is so irrational his name is irony
@@lasthope301 i see admitting you were wrong with class an alpha move personally, being poised and admitting defeat is better than getting ran over for asinine things you said. hell even tate has admitted hese been wrong. what you have to do is minimalize the risk of your argument being flawed, something rolly seems to be awful at in my opinion
Rolo was so mad, and fresh is literally brain dead. Found this both hilarious and infuriating. Rolo and F&F were trying to gaslight but the truth is Rolo had no definition of a high value man
They are not steps, rollo says stuff like this all the time... People who think he’s telling people to get a vasectomy clearly don’t watch rollo or know anything about him.
Because there is no global definition of a high value man, it is extremely relative. Your definition of a high value man is closer to a street beggar than the definition of a high value man that billionaires, international organisations' CEOs, top bankers and dictators have. Even if you claim that we should take the definition of what a high value man is e.g. in the USA which roughly (but not exactly) would be accepted in the western style societies, that is most certainly not the definition of a high value man in non-western societies. In war-torn Afghanistan the definition of a high value man entails leadership over a sizeable group of fighters with enough firepower to control and protect a decently sized town. By that definition Ben Shapiro and even Elon Musk would not be considered high value men there in spite of their fortunes.
What Destiny and Sneako do not understand is the fact that the term "high value man" is like the terms "alpha/beta", i.e. these are theoretical labels to convey certain behavioural aspects of within the range of male behavioural patterns. As such it would need a whole analysis that would not fit the time frame of a short few seconds answer that Destiny and Sneako would demand. Rollo was right in not playing along with their demand even more so when he was actually replying and being interrupted to be questioned by Destiny on.... word definitions such as "what is wearing down", definitions that everyone understands. Imagine talking about the economical situation in USA and having Destiny asking you "so how you define what is an economy". You can't have a dialogue on that basis.
He does, but he know's they will tear him to shreds so he can't say it.
@@dinos9607when you outline 8 steps to get to point x, you have to define what point x is, otherwise the 8 steps are meaningless. Where are the steps supposed to get you if it's undefined? There would be no point to writing a list.
He has his own definition but destiny was right because if he defines it he will get murdered on social media by other people even in his own circle, which is why he's dancing HAAAAAAARD.
sneako actually sounds intellegent for the most part here damn
Fr crazy sh
I’m 6’4 with shoes on and 6’1 without them
not high value enough bra
Watching the "Godfather of the Manosphere" struggle to answer a basic definition for 10 minutes like a progressive in a Steven Crowder documentary only for Myron to instantly define it to try and cut the tension was peak comedy
That was pretty cringe ngl. I’m a fan of Rollo’s books too.
The grandpappy, granfather, grampa, grand wizard, gandolf, dumbledorf of the manosphere.....thank goodness it wasnt the high value manosphere, we'd still be laughing at him trying to explain it
@@ThomasFoolery8lol, you're an id10t then.
Ole Myron Gains 😂😂😂
Its ridiculous by this point with dumb ideologies, no wonder they call this idiot rollo.
Fresh before the debate, “He would body you” Fresh when they call him out and hurt his feelings, “You guys are so mean.”
HAHAHAHA
😂😂😂
I love Fresh but he is about 8 chess moves behind at the best of times.
Skid&Shit
@@Sean-ec7ovFresh is a whole chess game behind.
22:05 he can’t give his own opinion of what a high value man is , because he knows it’s BS
I don't agree with Destiny on most things, but him and Sneako were 100000% right here. Biggest hypocrites ever. Respect to Myron trying to save Rollo, cuz they are boys. But Fresh isn't intelligent and Rollo has the same logic as a chick from the streets.
I'm really liking this arc for Sneako. Not just because he's saying things I generally agree with but because of HOW he is arguing his points. Old Sneako would make a wild claim, point to a vague assertion then call you a Bot for not agreeing with him. New Sneako is asking challenging questions, holding people to their own statements and really just impressing me with his demeanor.
well obviously, natural progression for someone young to learn more and continue to grow. I'm the same age as him, and I see hear new things debate people more it really helps sharpen your knowledge, and ideas. It also helps with checking the logic of your argument as long as you have pure intentions.
its not "new" sneako its sneako reloaded lol. he was this introspective before his livestreaming phase, if not more
This is more of a return to form for sneako he just got out of his redpill phase
His old CZcams vids were a great example of this
@@frankiew1202 Or, hear me out, he has mental issues. The episode has subsided and some of the reactionary tendencies has toned down substantially. To think that the Tate brothers being gone for a few months, can do so much for a person, goes to show how unwell so many people who are terminally online (without using it for work) are.
@@simonfarre4907 or hear me out you have mental issues, jeez touch grass lil bro
I think the people who actually followed this dude's advice and got a vasectomy accidentally benifitted humanity, ill take that as a W
Agreed. We don't need more stupid and gullible people.
😂
😂I’m dead but honestly really sad that these dude are leading many men in the wrong direction
i feel sympathy for those tricked. but for the grifters, i hope they get vasectomies and don’t reproduce into the next generation.
Well that’s a fair point
Here's a list to achieve the status of high value men:
Learn, create, plan, and achieve goals
Be reliable
Be in shape
Be honest with yourself and others
Have standards
Have enough wealth to take care of your potential wife and potential kids
Avoid infidelity
Have people with similar goals around you
Avoid criminal activity
Have and implement self-control
Have emotional and mental maturity
Keeping it real... Big L for Rollo... and Myron and the other guy just remind me of when someone you idolise is completely wrong, but out of respect and admiration, you try and justify their viewpoint in hopes they can redeem themselves... I get it, but I don't respect it.
Props to Sneako and Destiny who I haven't agreed with in the past on several topics for keeping consistency and calling out the BS and lack of clarity.
for over 10 years rollo has been spewing hateful nonsense and to see him get absolutely fucking bodied like this was so gratifying. he was about to cry at the end
Rolo literally spewing all that bs because hes an angry bitter old man who has accepted he will die alone and regrets not having children so he projects that on to vulnerable young men who look up to him . Scummy dude
Bro is 53 yrs old still believing this shit
It’s embarrassing grown ass man fr 😂
rollo is emotionally unstable
He made the worst take in public, but it's only because his business is dying.
@@riverjustice agreed - he is attempting to remain relevant...by not making any changes?
My favorite thing about Rollo Tomassi is that he's insecure about having a nerdy nasally voice so he MAXES out his fucking bass EQ to sound deeper. He just ends up blowing out your subwoofer and sounding muffled as fuck.
Sounds like he's shouting through an old megaphone that's clogged with mud or something. It doesn't even make his voice sound deeper either, just makes him seem altogether incompetent with his equipment.
I was wondering why he sounded so goddam loud
OMFG you're right hahaha, the guy is literally sitting in a decently priced recording studio and has got a $300 plus a mic sounding like a mcDonald's drive-thru OMFG I'm dead
Maybe he could take some voice lessons but then he would discover what advice means and it would break his paradigm as he has been giving advice his whole life
You're actually 1000% right and I can't unhear it
One could argue.. their child(ren) ARE THE REASON for their success. It pushed/motivated them to do better 🤷🏾♀️😢
Oh my God.....
This is Sneako's 'what is an NFT?' moment...
Getting on a mic and camera is the worst thing that Rollo Tomassi dude ever did. Just stay anonymous and mysterious like all those other dudes on Twitter and don't embarrass yourself.
😂😂😂😂😂
😂 bro got smoked in 4k hdr waved
With the amount of combos he got
Man even the FnF chat was roasting this guy, respect.
That’s destiny’s chat loo
The redpill only sides with truth and nothing else. Someone like myself who respects Rollo work like the rational male even has to admit, he got bodied by destiny and Sneako, and everyone in the chat witnessed that L. They will have another debate irl next week though! But yea, wasn’t a good look for Rollo
this just felt like the "what is a woman" and people have a mental breakdown over it