Nova: "It's not like I can control future card releases... *_OR DO I!?"_* Me: "Nova, please, if anyone can control future card releases it's Rata, because almost every time he thinks he's done talking about a series of cards, Konami releases a new card just to spite him."
ive always seen poison cloud as being roided out because its one of the only cloudians thats strong enough to not die when in defense mode, though this takes all their energy to maintain hence their 0 attack, and since their body is so chiseled they have a bit of defense unlike the rest of the group
What can I say, there's some things I'm really passionate about when it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh, and one of them is detesting the guy who decided the love of the one person on Earth who loved him unconditionally was less important than a trading card
Thanks for having me be part of this video, Nova! Memes about my detesting Adrian Gecko aside, this was a really fun video to contribute to, and I'm super-happy that you were so into the idea of us working together in some way (and that you indulged the couple bits of improv that I threw in with my lines, haha) 😁💙
Hey, it wouldn't mean much to have a guest if I don't let them show off their best self! Thank you for contributing your spirit and enthusiasm to the video, you were awesome to work with!
@@polocatfan Yeah, basically just a way to reliably search monsters and an extra Normal Summon and they'd be the consistent version of Gishki handloop bs.
Wait a minute; you and Daniel know each other?! That’s awesome! I’d love for him to have his own episode spotlight. And who knows? Maybe if we’re lucky, we could eventually get Quarter Guy to do an episode. Oh yeah, and the Cloudians are decent, I guess.
Yeah, I've been aware of Nova for a while, but we first actually came into contact when I edited a video for HasherBrown (for one of his Custom Card Contest VODs that Nova was a part of), and we kinda both threw out the idea of working together once or twice, and finally I just went into his Twitter DMs and I was like, "Hey, we should actually do this, lol", and the rest is history 😌
cloudians are pretty playable in speed duel, because of a skill that gives you 1 extra counter every time you place one. this makes poison cloud and cirrostratus removal on normal, and aerosol having shared once per turn effects doesnt matter as much in a slower format (also, theres a 4 card combo that lets you handloop your opponent for 3 lol)
Came here to hear Super Nerd Daniel rant about Adrian Gecko again; stayed for the explanation. Nice work, man! (Also, I'm going to like pretty much any video that makes a Persona joke in the first two minutes. And then a Kingdom Hearts joke later on!)
Fun fact about Adrian from the manga, of all characters with Legendary Planet cards he's the one who gets stuck with a pear in his ass. (The Despair Uranus)
First: Great video. Keep up the good work! Second: Now that I watched the video I wonder why cloudians doesnt have any fusion cards. Like, its a perfect theme for fusion monsters, combining clouds with different attributes (literal attributes, not Yu-Gi-Oh-ones) making bigger and badder clouds.
You know, that wouldn't be a half-bad idea to give a new twist to the archetype! They definitely need SOME kind of in-archetype Extra Deck presence. Alternatively, given the potential synergy with Agents/Sanctuary In The Sky amd how many Tuners they have, you could also maybe do some Synchro stuff (even if that's less thematically appropriate than Fusion, haha).
I had no idea you had made a Cloudian video, literally been waiting for over a decade for new support and nothing on the horizon yet, I got my ultimate clouds all dusty in the binder :()
I can't get mad at cloudians, they were my first deck when Master Duel opened. Back when everyone was running Utopia Double (or Nothing) OTK, I was playing with a cloudy sanctum in the sky. My favorite scenario was every 10k Utopia trying to overrun a Cirrostratus, realizing I didn't take any damage, a few dozen seconds of inactivity, and they surrendered.
Konami need to just make that Neo Fog King an Cloudian synergy archetype already also R.I.P AKIRA TORIYAMA I'LL BE WAITIN FOR THAT DBZ ARCHETYPE ASWELL
I really like the idea of the Cloudian archetype, and it looks fun. Maybe it needs support that doesn't rely on the counters to help but does have some benefits if there are counters.
Thank god, I was so glad to hear someone else despised Adrian Gecko. I've heard a bunch of people on youtube talk about how cool they found him, and I just always wanted that guy to get punched in the dick. Was genuinely happy when Yubel beat him. Seriously that duel the entire time it feels like Yubel is the protagonist, the way they're constantly struggling against the clock and this impossible win con Gecko is trying to dump onto the field.
Oh yeah, believe you me, I've always had a sore spot for Adrian -- a lot of that is down to me getting pretty heated whenever someone knows another person has strong feelings for them and blatantly twists/manipulates those feelings for their own personal gain while having no intention of reciprocating them genuinely. I actually have a whole video about Adrian's character arc over on my channel, if you wanna spend even more time listening to someone else call Adrian out for his bullcrap!
The 2nd duel between adrian and yubel felt like adian was the protag because yubel had specifically brought cards to make it impossible for him to win and he still almost won like 3 seperate times
I've always wanted more Cloudian support but at the same time I'm terrifyingly aware of how easy Atlus' non-once per turn hand rip would be if the deck was given any level of decent consistency tools. Unless they decide to emergency ban Atlus prior to releasing support, I don't think Konami wants to do much with them. Outside of the Fog King stuff stuck in anime limbo that's a different deck entirely outside of aesthetic & theming similarities.
I feel like Adrian is more hateable than Dartz, at least for me, but I think that comes down to how much more personal Adrian's brand of douchebaggery is -- like, yeah, Dartz wanting to wipe out humanity is OBJECTIVELY more evil, just on a grander scale, but people like Adrian exist and do their bullshit every single day in the real world. Maybe not the "trading the person that loves them for a powerful card" part, but the manipulation, the twisting of someone's emotions for their own gain, the using of supposed friends to get what they want...all of that is a very real and sometimes very personal kind of evil, so it hits home more with a lot of people.
@@SuperNerdDaniel not to mention Adrian pretty much paid the price when he stupidly pushed Yubel’s buttons, and now he’s rotting in the deepest parts of the Shadow Realm, forever. As powerful the Exodia Deck is, the one massive weakness is: you gotta get all five pieces of Exodia to win, which is really hard nowadays thanks to new Cards that can either banish or remove said Exodia pieces. Sure Exodius has broken Abilities, but unfortunately he can be removed from play, and their are Monsters with bigger Attacks Points, while he won’t be destroyed the opponent using him will still take massive damage. And that what lead to Adrian to his own grave, using too powerful cards will make you sloppy, and Adrian became so smug, he forgot he has other Cards that could’ve help him with the Duel, but Pride can lead to stagnation.
@@SuperNerdDaniel also HOLY CRAP, I wasn’t expecting to get a comment from you!? Also quick question, which Version of Yugioh is your Favorite, mine is 5D’s for its more mature and gritty focuses, plus the idea the dueling and racing the same time is really creative. Though I wish the Finale Season was Dubbed instead of Subbed.
Every time I see cloudian's I don't think of Adrian I think of the duel against Klaus at the end of the first half YGO world championship 2011, if you not prepared or did not have the right cards that duel could fu up, I remember that duel being the biggest pain in the ass and it took me the longest time to win it as a kid.
Well, good luck, if you actually end up doing that! Hopefully some of the ideas we threw out there in the second half give you a good jumping off point for that
I'm always wondering why Adrian's not in Duel Links yet. I always really liked his Cloudians too. if everyone hates him I guess that could be a reason he's not in the game yet but it just feels odd seeing all the rest of the transfer students in the line up but he's missing. but the whole GX character lineup seems odd anyways. it doesn't look like they went in order of the arcs & were just trying to get the most important characters first.
I used to love these guys! But I got tired of having to try to back them up with SO MUCH!! You can't even run them in their own deck! Most of the cards has to be general protection or else all of your clouds go up in smoke!!
I think "Cloudian" can need require secondary effects,such as"When this card is destroyed by battle "changed to"When this card is destroyed by effects ".
isn't fog king kind of underrated in Rank 7 decks if you need another body and your engine doesn't require your one normal? sure, now you have labyrinth heavy tank, and ascended of thunder (if you can pay 3k) and psy-beast (if you have a level 7 psychic in your deck), but until recently with tank there wasn't anything better
I don't blame Daniel's animosity towards Gecko. I felt the same way. He was basically Kaiba without the wit and humor. And the fact that his story never seemed fully resolved before the series was cancelled also didn't sit well with me. As for Cloudians, they seem like the archetype of someone who wants to try to stick out by playing an exotic deck type but also knows jack-squat about deck building so they compromise. Great video but it would be hard (read: difficult) to convince me to play it.
Yah liked the deck but hated the chator attach to them as adian vs yubel the only time i wainted the main villain to win because god her horable and at least yubel is far more interesting
cloudians are kind of fun to play sometimes i must admit...but they need the treatment volcanics got. in addition begon naiv can be turned into a positive to gain more fog counters as they can put your cloudians back in your hand (preferrably ones that dont have any) so you can normal summon again for more counters....especially effective if you have a full cloudian board.
@GoldenNovaYugioh When I saw the thumbnail of a cloudian monster, I am reminded of the time you did the six samurai archetype video and said you are talking about cloudians and now you are talking about the cloudian archetype. That is funny.
I made two new cards for Cloudian Support (inspired by this video)! Cloudian Forecast Field Spell Effect1: OPT: Special Summon one level 6 or lower Cloudian Monster from your hand, deck, or GY. Effect2: Cloudian Monsters cannot be destroyed by card effects. Effect3: This card cannot be destroyed by monster effects _______________________ Cloudy with a chance of Counters Continuous Spell Effect1: If your opponent controls more monsters than you do, special summon as many Level 4 Cloudian Monsters with different names from your Hand or GY. Effect2: OPT: Place 1 “Fog Counter” on all Cloudian Monsters for each monster your opponent controls. Thoughts?
Unironically "cloudian"is a dumb name. Like captain obvious amount of cr8nge. Maybe someone can explain me what the -an suffix might hint at ir if ita just random but yeah.
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Nova: "It's not like I can control future card releases... *_OR DO I!?"_*
Me: "Nova, please, if anyone can control future card releases it's Rata, because almost every time he thinks he's done talking about a series of cards, Konami releases a new card just to spite him."
I didn't believe it until he managed to res melodious from the grave
ive always seen poison cloud as being roided out because its one of the only cloudians thats strong enough to not die when in defense mode, though this takes all their energy to maintain hence their 0 attack, and since their body is so chiseled they have a bit of defense unlike the rest of the group
Ok i knew Adrian Geko had some hate but....lol that intro THAT INTRO
What can I say, there's some things I'm really passionate about when it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh, and one of them is detesting the guy who decided the love of the one person on Earth who loved him unconditionally was less important than a trading card
@@SuperNerdDaniel ok I agree on that lol but man. You really went on a tangent
@@SuperNerdDaniel You summed up how much Adrian sucks perfectly.
@@PhantomRoxasThank you, thank you, I do try 😌
Thanks for having me be part of this video, Nova! Memes about my detesting Adrian Gecko aside, this was a really fun video to contribute to, and I'm super-happy that you were so into the idea of us working together in some way (and that you indulged the couple bits of improv that I threw in with my lines, haha) 😁💙
The improv was funny. I leant into it. :P
Hey, it wouldn't mean much to have a guest if I don't let them show off their best self! Thank you for contributing your spirit and enthusiasm to the video, you were awesome to work with!
@@GreatBigPillockAppreciate ya ☺
@@GoldenNovaYugioh 💙
I really wish these got a new wave of support.
Same. All the other season 3 gx characters got support. Jim, Axel, Jesse, The Supreme King, even Yubel.
cloudians are like 2 cards away from insane handlooping.
@@polocatfanhand looping *and* link climbing
I feel l the same way about chemacritters , hazy flames, heraldic beast,predator plants and fossil
@@polocatfan Yeah, basically just a way to reliably search monsters and an extra Normal Summon and they'd be the consistent version of Gishki handloop bs.
I love the fact that you played storms theme from umvc3 it was very fitting for cloudians
No, LET HIM COOK
He's cooking? 😯 The kitchen is on fire? 🔥 The house is burning down? 🔥 The neighbors are extremely concerned??? 🚒
@@SuperNerdDanielextra crispy
@@SuperNerdDanielare you sure its not an aurora borealis.
@@creepyasgramdpa9916Aurora borealis? At THIS time of year, at THIS time of day, localized ENTIRELY in Adrian Gecko's kitchen? 🤨
@@SuperNerdDaniel yes
Wait a minute; you and Daniel know each other?! That’s awesome! I’d love for him to have his own episode spotlight. And who knows? Maybe if we’re lucky, we could eventually get Quarter Guy to do an episode.
Oh yeah, and the Cloudians are decent, I guess.
Yeah, I've been aware of Nova for a while, but we first actually came into contact when I edited a video for HasherBrown (for one of his Custom Card Contest VODs that Nova was a part of), and we kinda both threw out the idea of working together once or twice, and finally I just went into his Twitter DMs and I was like, "Hey, we should actually do this, lol", and the rest is history 😌
The Collab of one century tbh.
cloudians are pretty playable in speed duel, because of a skill that gives you 1 extra counter every time you place one. this makes poison cloud and cirrostratus removal on normal, and aerosol having shared once per turn effects doesnt matter as much in a slower format
(also, theres a 4 card combo that lets you handloop your opponent for 3 lol)
Altus, Aerosol, Storm Dragon and 1 other Cloudian card I'm guessing? xD
Came here to hear Super Nerd Daniel rant about Adrian Gecko again; stayed for the explanation. Nice work, man! (Also, I'm going to like pretty much any video that makes a Persona joke in the first two minutes. And then a Kingdom Hearts joke later on!)
Good to see you, Leah! Glad I could bamboozle you into watching a Yu-Gi-Oh video (again), haha
@@SuperNerdDaniel Is it really bamboozling if I knew what I was getting into? ;)
Fun fact about Adrian from the manga, of all characters with Legendary Planet cards he's the one who gets stuck with a pear in his ass. (The Despair Uranus)
First: Great video. Keep up the good work!
Second: Now that I watched the video I wonder why cloudians doesnt have any fusion cards. Like, its a perfect theme for fusion monsters, combining clouds with different attributes (literal attributes, not Yu-Gi-Oh-ones) making bigger and badder clouds.
You know, that wouldn't be a half-bad idea to give a new twist to the archetype! They definitely need SOME kind of in-archetype Extra Deck presence. Alternatively, given the potential synergy with Agents/Sanctuary In The Sky amd how many Tuners they have, you could also maybe do some Synchro stuff (even if that's less thematically appropriate than Fusion, haha).
I had no idea you had made a Cloudian video, literally been waiting for over a decade for new support and nothing on the horizon yet, I got my ultimate clouds all dusty in the binder :()
I definitely feel like this achetype deserves some new legacy support to prevent it from being anything more than a fart in the wind.
That was an...oddly appropriate reaction to being told one is doing a Cloudian video.
True and real
I can't get mad at cloudians, they were my first deck when Master Duel opened.
Back when everyone was running Utopia Double (or Nothing) OTK, I was playing with a cloudy sanctum in the sky.
My favorite scenario was every 10k Utopia trying to overrun a Cirrostratus, realizing I didn't take any damage, a few dozen seconds of inactivity, and they surrendered.
Konami need to just make that Neo Fog King an Cloudian synergy archetype already
also R.I.P AKIRA TORIYAMA I'LL BE WAITIN FOR THAT DBZ ARCHETYPE ASWELL
I really like the idea of the Cloudian archetype, and it looks fun. Maybe it needs support that doesn't rely on the counters to help but does have some benefits if there are counters.
Let me know when I can join you for Atlanteans 😂
if they were to give it new modern support, a link monster that prevents them from being destroyed by card effects that it points to could be neat
Hurricane Golden Nova is here!
21:56 weird you would censor “fog king” there
Funny tech idea: purposely set your clouds to defense position and destroy them to summon meklord emperors
Based
Thank god, I was so glad to hear someone else despised Adrian Gecko. I've heard a bunch of people on youtube talk about how cool they found him, and I just always wanted that guy to get punched in the dick. Was genuinely happy when Yubel beat him. Seriously that duel the entire time it feels like Yubel is the protagonist, the way they're constantly struggling against the clock and this impossible win con Gecko is trying to dump onto the field.
Oh yeah, believe you me, I've always had a sore spot for Adrian -- a lot of that is down to me getting pretty heated whenever someone knows another person has strong feelings for them and blatantly twists/manipulates those feelings for their own personal gain while having no intention of reciprocating them genuinely.
I actually have a whole video about Adrian's character arc over on my channel, if you wanna spend even more time listening to someone else call Adrian out for his bullcrap!
The 2nd duel between adrian and yubel felt like adian was the protag because yubel had specifically brought cards to make it impossible for him to win and he still almost won like 3 seperate times
Me and the homies hate Gecko
Disgenuine shit
I know thats a bandaid on your head but I keep thinking its a random smear of peanut butter
That's canon now.
@@GoldenNovaYugioh Speaking of, what DID you do to your head?
ชน😊0,@@GoldenNovaYugioh
I literally spat out my drink at the SBAHJ mention.
I remember when they first came out, Claudians were really good at "surprise, you lose!"
21:59 the only time you will see this card. make a wish!
I've always wanted more Cloudian support but at the same time I'm terrifyingly aware of how easy Atlus' non-once per turn hand rip would be if the deck was given any level of decent consistency tools.
Unless they decide to emergency ban Atlus prior to releasing support, I don't think Konami wants to do much with them. Outside of the Fog King stuff stuck in anime limbo that's a different deck entirely outside of aesthetic & theming similarities.
Cloudian is literal link monster in the past lol
To be honest, yeah Adrian is one of the most hated Yugioh Characters, and somewhere being hated just like Darts.
I feel like Adrian is more hateable than Dartz, at least for me, but I think that comes down to how much more personal Adrian's brand of douchebaggery is -- like, yeah, Dartz wanting to wipe out humanity is OBJECTIVELY more evil, just on a grander scale, but people like Adrian exist and do their bullshit every single day in the real world. Maybe not the "trading the person that loves them for a powerful card" part, but the manipulation, the twisting of someone's emotions for their own gain, the using of supposed friends to get what they want...all of that is a very real and sometimes very personal kind of evil, so it hits home more with a lot of people.
@@SuperNerdDaniel not to mention Adrian pretty much paid the price when he stupidly pushed Yubel’s buttons, and now he’s rotting in the deepest parts of the Shadow Realm, forever. As powerful the Exodia Deck is, the one massive weakness is: you gotta get all five pieces of Exodia to win, which is really hard nowadays thanks to new Cards that can either banish or remove said Exodia pieces. Sure Exodius has broken Abilities, but unfortunately he can be removed from play, and their are Monsters with bigger Attacks Points, while he won’t be destroyed the opponent using him will still take massive damage.
And that what lead to Adrian to his own grave, using too powerful cards will make you sloppy, and Adrian became so smug, he forgot he has other Cards that could’ve help him with the Duel, but Pride can lead to stagnation.
@@SuperNerdDaniel also HOLY CRAP, I wasn’t expecting to get a comment from you!?
Also quick question, which Version of Yugioh is your Favorite, mine is 5D’s for its more mature and gritty focuses, plus the idea the dueling and racing the same time is really creative. Though I wish the Finale Season was Dubbed instead of Subbed.
Every time I see cloudian's I don't think of Adrian I think of the duel against Klaus at the end of the first half YGO world championship 2011, if you not prepared or did not have the right cards that duel could fu up, I remember that duel being the biggest pain in the ass and it took me the longest time to win it as a kid.
I LOVE the nova scale, though I think cloudians should get 11/5 awesomeness!
I wanna make a cloudian deck that you could at least say makes plays. Maybe this video will inspire me
Well, good luck, if you actually end up doing that! Hopefully some of the ideas we threw out there in the second half give you a good jumping off point for that
Just make sure to throw in Exodia to make it anime accurate!
@@michaelnelson1127 okay but what if runick
Diamond dust trap card reminds me of Meru in legend of dragoon with her spell Diamond dust.
Weirdly in duel links i climbed with cloudians during 5ds era. Ran 3 sancuary in the sky and zefra to tutor it 5d added earthborns as a alt win con
I'm always wondering why Adrian's not in Duel Links yet. I always really liked his Cloudians too. if everyone hates him I guess that could be a reason he's not in the game yet but it just feels odd seeing all the rest of the transfer students in the line up but he's missing. but the whole GX character lineup seems odd anyways. it doesn't look like they went in order of the arcs & were just trying to get the most important characters first.
I used to love these guys! But I got tired of having to try to back them up with SO MUCH!! You can't even run them in their own deck! Most of the cards has to be general protection or else all of your clouds go up in smoke!!
Hey it's big smoke
I guess Final Attack Orders isn't a tech pick? But then again who would play something like Zero Gravity, Labyrinth of Nightmare, or even Stumbling.
Not me playing Persona 5 right now 😂
I think "Cloudian" can need require secondary effects,such as"When this card is destroyed by battle "changed to"When this card is destroyed by effects ".
isn't fog king kind of underrated in Rank 7 decks if you need another body and your engine doesn't require your one normal? sure, now you have labyrinth heavy tank, and ascended of thunder (if you can pay 3k) and psy-beast (if you have a level 7 psychic in your deck), but until recently with tank there wasn't anything better
I don't blame Daniel's animosity towards Gecko. I felt the same way. He was basically Kaiba without the wit and humor. And the fact that his story never seemed fully resolved before the series was cancelled also didn't sit well with me.
As for Cloudians, they seem like the archetype of someone who wants to try to stick out by playing an exotic deck type but also knows jack-squat about deck building so they compromise. Great video but it would be hard (read: difficult) to convince me to play it.
Don’t forget floo
You guys forgot Bahamut shark and toad . They are mostly water
Yah liked the deck but hated the chator attach to them as adian vs yubel the only time i wainted the main villain to win because god her horable and at least yubel is far more interesting
And social link reversed
Big rip time to reset
What’s the BGM you used in this video
Why is that intro from the desian base from tales of symphonia
It's got a techno energy I really like. Also the game is cool.
@@GoldenNovaYugioh tales soundtracks do go pretty hard. How do you feel about xillia 2's?
cloudians are kind of fun to play sometimes i must admit...but they need the treatment volcanics got.
in addition begon naiv can be turned into a positive to gain more fog counters as they can put your cloudians back in your hand (preferrably ones that dont have any) so you can normal summon again for more counters....especially effective if you have a full cloudian board.
WHATS UPDRAFT?? 😂😂😂
NOTHIN MUCH WHATS UP WITH YOU!
@GoldenNovaYugioh When I saw the thumbnail of a cloudian monster, I am reminded of the time you did the six samurai archetype video and said you are talking about cloudians and now you are talking about the cloudian archetype. That is funny.
@@fabianbeteta5795 im playing masterduel and when i saw ur comment. Im playing against six samurai isolde. What a coincidence 😳
@@marvzgatchi2408 now that was unexpected.
@@fabianbeteta5795 yeah and i lost that duel by the way.. they comboed with gateway… 😢
I made two new cards for Cloudian Support (inspired by this video)!
Cloudian Forecast
Field Spell
Effect1: OPT: Special Summon one level 6 or lower Cloudian Monster from your hand, deck, or GY.
Effect2: Cloudian Monsters cannot be destroyed by card effects.
Effect3: This card cannot be destroyed by monster effects
_______________________
Cloudy with a chance of Counters
Continuous Spell
Effect1: If your opponent controls more monsters than you do, special summon as many Level 4 Cloudian Monsters with different names from your Hand or GY.
Effect2: OPT: Place 1 “Fog Counter” on all Cloudian Monsters for each monster your opponent controls.
Thoughts?
Spiritual water art goes great with turbulence and smoke balls
Hi
Is tge forehead bandage some obscure joke? Or just an unfortunate events consequences😮
Unironically "cloudian"is a dumb name. Like captain obvious amount of cr8nge. Maybe someone can explain me what the -an suffix might hint at ir if ita just random but yeah.