I am not gonna lie , that I prefer to hear Floor Jansen over Tarja Turunen, but this is Nightwish!!!! And I am most definitely likening this video 🤘😎👍. Tuomas is the true leader of Nightwish !!!! All The singers are just Angels in a different era. I choose to be Awesome 🤘😎🤘 NWSU.
Most new fans don't look beyond what the band wrote in a public resignation letter addressed to Tarja, so they end up putting Marcelo, Tarja's husband, as the villain of the story. I'm a longtime fan, so I'm going to summarize a little bit of what happened. The relationship between Tarja and the band had not been good for some years. Because of this, she decided to leave and communicated her decision to the group. Tarja wanted to make her decision public and prepare fans for the change of vocalist, but Tuomas convinced her not to make it public until the recording of a next album after "Once". It turns out that, unlike agreed, the group planned and wrote a letter of resignation to Tarja without her knowing it. At the end of the show "End of an Era", the band delivered the letter to Tarja, with the recommendation that she should not read it at that time. The following day that same letter was published on the band's website. In short, the band accused Tarja of being a diva and also attacked her husband, Marcelo. After the accusations made by the band, Tarja's husband came out in defense of her. He received, answered and made available on the internet more than 140 answers to questions sent by fans from all over the world. Tarja also wrote a public letter responding to the group. In it, she did not attack the band. In short she said she was shocked and sad, and said that she did not recognize herself in the description that the band made of her. In this letter Tarja doesn't explain much. She gives more details at a press conference. You can find this interview here on CZcams. Tarja's dismissal was completely unnecessary. She had already told the group, approximately 2,5 years in advance, that she would leave the band. It seems to me that the group tried to punish her for that decision by launching a public letter with attacks on her and her husband. If any differences were unbearable, it would be enough to end the contract in a civilized manner, as any mature person does. Because of the way the things went the band lost a lot of fans. Many of my friends, for example, stopped listening to Nightwish at the time. For me, the letter says more about the band than about Tarja. Nightwish's fan base was reconfigured with the change of style and the entry of Anette and then Floor. Many of the original fans no longer follow the band and neither Tarja, because the style she adopted in her solo career is different. I love her new style, but I'm minority in my group. Some former dissident fans returned to listening to Nightwish after Floor joined. Many longtime Nightwish fans know and like Floor since her original band After Forever. The dismissal episode was not the first time that the band acted in a bad manner. For example, Tarja was attacked once, in the middle of a show in Guadalajara, and the band did nothing. At the ocasion, a crazy guy invaded the stage and tried to sexual abuse Tarja, but the band continued playing as if nothing was happening. They also did nothing in the backstage. Tarja was conforted by Marcelo at the time, a person the group just had known. Incidentally, Anette, the second vocalist, was also fired. She was pregnant, fell ill during the tour and had to go to the hospital. Then, the group decided to replace her with Floor. Here are some sources: A snippet from the book "Once Upon a Nightwish" detailing the abuse incident: fromwishestoeternity.tumblr.com/post/111177476493/alfaangel-i-just-put-together-some-facts-about/amp The video of the abuse incident: czcams.com/video/3bj4h1807kY/video.html
@@TheBlindTrucker After Tarja was fired the band, and especially Tuomas, received a barrage of criticism. Tuomas fell into depression and composed the song "The poet and the pendulum" as a way to deal with the situation. He kills himself in this song. There are several indications that Tuomas suffered from unrequited love for Tarja. Old fans suspected this since before the firing. Tuomas used to say that Tarja was the voice that best expressed his feelings. It was common for him to compose lyrics that spoke of love in a stormy way. Also, Tuomas' body language in some interviews seemed to say that he was in love with Tarja. This suspicion from fans was even stronger when Marcelo spoke of Tuomas' love in one of the responses he gave to the public. I particularly believe that Tuomas was in fact in love with Tarja. To me, "The poet and the pendulum" seems to be one more sign of that. I don't believe that Tarja's dismissal alone, as well as the negative reaction from fans and the media, were enough reasons for a picture of depression. I believe Tuomas was possibly suffering from the ultimate loss of love while being criticized on all sides. I also believe that "The poet and the pendulum" is also the result of remorse about how things turned out.
I would take everything you hear about the split with a grain of salt. People are just going by what Toumas wrote in the open letter. Some of the stuff in that letter has been proven false. It was most likely just a bad situation where both parties were at fault.
Totally agree, besides, there are almost not original members anymore in NW, that speaks volume about who is problematic and who is having an amazing solo career with the same band for almost 15 years now.....
The true siren!!! so glad that you are checking Nightwish with Tarja, she iis the best, for me nothing top the original singer. Thanks!
All hale the REAL TRUE QUEEN of Nightwish & ALL Symphonoc Metal singers!!!!, the very beautiful looking and very unique TARJA!!!!!!!😊👍👍👍👍👍
I am not gonna lie , that I prefer to hear Floor Jansen over Tarja Turunen, but this is Nightwish!!!! And I am most definitely likening this video 🤘😎👍.
Tuomas is the true leader of Nightwish !!!! All The singers are just Angels in a different era.
I choose to be Awesome 🤘😎🤘
NWSU.
You are AWESOMENESS!!! Hello NWASU
Good artists
Most new fans don't look beyond what the band wrote in a public resignation letter addressed to Tarja, so they end up putting Marcelo, Tarja's husband, as the villain of the story. I'm a longtime fan, so I'm going to summarize a little bit of what happened. The relationship between Tarja and the band had not been good for some years. Because of this, she decided to leave and communicated her decision to the group. Tarja wanted to make her decision public and prepare fans for the change of vocalist, but Tuomas convinced her not to make it public until the recording of a next album after "Once". It turns out that, unlike agreed, the group planned and wrote a letter of resignation to Tarja without her knowing it. At the end of the show "End of an Era", the band delivered the letter to Tarja, with the recommendation that she should not read it at that time. The following day that same letter was published on the band's website. In short, the band accused Tarja of being a diva and also attacked her husband, Marcelo. After the accusations made by the band, Tarja's husband came out in defense of her. He received, answered and made available on the internet more than 140 answers to questions sent by fans from all over the world. Tarja also wrote a public letter responding to the group. In it, she did not attack the band. In short she said she was shocked and sad, and said that she did not recognize herself in the description that the band made of her. In this letter Tarja doesn't explain much. She gives more details at a press conference. You can find this interview here on CZcams. Tarja's dismissal was completely unnecessary. She had already told the group, approximately 2,5 years in advance, that she would leave the band. It seems to me that the group tried to punish her for that decision by launching a public letter with attacks on her and her husband. If any differences were unbearable, it would be enough to end the contract in a civilized manner, as any mature person does. Because of the way the things went the band lost a lot of fans. Many of my friends, for example, stopped listening to Nightwish at the time. For me, the letter says more about the band than about Tarja. Nightwish's fan base was reconfigured with the change of style and the entry of Anette and then Floor. Many of the original fans no longer follow the band and neither Tarja, because the style she adopted in her solo career is different. I love her new style, but I'm minority in my group. Some former dissident fans returned to listening to Nightwish after Floor joined. Many longtime Nightwish fans know and like Floor since her original band After Forever. The dismissal episode was not the first time that the band acted in a bad manner. For example, Tarja was attacked once, in the middle of a show in Guadalajara, and the band did nothing. At the ocasion, a crazy guy invaded the stage and tried to sexual abuse Tarja, but the band continued playing as if nothing was happening. They also did nothing in the backstage. Tarja was conforted by Marcelo at the time, a person the group just had known. Incidentally, Anette, the second vocalist, was also fired. She was pregnant, fell ill during the tour and had to go to the hospital. Then, the group decided to replace her with Floor. Here are some sources:
A snippet from the book "Once Upon a Nightwish" detailing the abuse incident: fromwishestoeternity.tumblr.com/post/111177476493/alfaangel-i-just-put-together-some-facts-about/amp
The video of the abuse incident: czcams.com/video/3bj4h1807kY/video.html
Thank you very much for letting me know. That means a lot to me!
@@TheBlindTrucker You're welcome!
@@TheBlindTrucker After Tarja was fired the band, and especially Tuomas, received a barrage of criticism. Tuomas fell into depression and composed the song "The poet and the pendulum" as a way to deal with the situation. He kills himself in this song. There are several indications that Tuomas suffered from unrequited love for Tarja. Old fans suspected this since before the firing. Tuomas used to say that Tarja was the voice that best expressed his feelings. It was common for him to compose lyrics that spoke of love in a stormy way. Also, Tuomas' body language in some interviews seemed to say that he was in love with Tarja. This suspicion from fans was even stronger when Marcelo spoke of Tuomas' love in one of the responses he gave to the public. I particularly believe that Tuomas was in fact in love with Tarja. To me, "The poet and the pendulum" seems to be one more sign of that. I don't believe that Tarja's dismissal alone, as well as the negative reaction from fans and the media, were enough reasons for a picture of depression. I believe Tuomas was possibly suffering from the ultimate loss of love while being criticized on all sides. I also believe that "The poet and the pendulum" is also the result of remorse about how things turned out.
I would take everything you hear about the split with a grain of salt. People are just going by what Toumas wrote in the open letter. Some of the stuff in that letter has been proven false. It was most likely just a bad situation where both parties were at fault.
Tuomas and the band were caught in lies about both Tarja and Annette. They don't have much credibility
Thanks for that. I think that there is two sides to everything so I'm not taking anything as gospel..
Totally agree, besides, there are almost not original members anymore in NW, that speaks volume about who is problematic and who is having an amazing solo career with the same band for almost 15 years now.....
yes , it is Nightwish and it is good :D But i prefer the Floor era too , it is homey from me , we are both Dutch :D
Oh cool!