Let's Test Motors! Mini Pro Dyno Wired Up And First Runs With Analysis - Holmes Hobbies

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2019
  • We know many of you have been waiting for this! John rocking his fashionable safety goggles! That is in this video too, but the main focus is the MiniPro Motor Dyno has been wired up and we document some of our first pulls on a Holmes Hobbies brushed system. John will run several pulls on the system with a 2S and 3S battery and discuss some of the information shown in the graphs. We’re still coming up to speed with the MiniPro Dyno and learning how everything works, so learn along with us, there is some great information given here that will help you understand how your motor is operating.
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    HOLMES HOBBIES TORQUEMASTER BR-XL WATERPROOF ESC- holmeshobbies.com/electronics...
    TRAILMASTER SPORT- holmeshobbies.com/motors/brus...
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    Website: HolmesHobbies.com/
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Komentáře • 64

  • @DavidGomez-ss5ue
    @DavidGomez-ss5ue Před 5 lety +4

    I like when your inner child gets out 😂😂😂💪🏻 fun is all about...

  • @lawrenceshields8791
    @lawrenceshields8791 Před 5 lety +5

    Let's see the puller 400,500 and Magnum on the dyno please 👍

    • @felipe96150
      @felipe96150 Před 5 lety

      Oh yes! Id love to see the Crawlmaster 550 in there!!!

  • @GrimRZR
    @GrimRZR Před 5 lety +4

    I'm curious the difference between a comparable turn brushless motor. Great video

  • @mojaveadv7135
    @mojaveadv7135 Před 5 lety

    That was awesome.

  • @dtpcustomsrc4851
    @dtpcustomsrc4851 Před 5 lety

    John, big fan, another great video!

  • @SuperScale-dp7kv
    @SuperScale-dp7kv Před 5 lety

    Can''t wait to see a collection of graphs for all the motors you make.

  • @michaelburton831
    @michaelburton831 Před 5 lety +1

    Love it...nice to see all that "day-tuh" and curves on a screen...would like see motor comparisons of all your offerings and maybe some competitors and even the RTR motor like maybe a Axial 35 turn. Plus if you do this i get to hear you that YES, you are ready to set the parameters. Thanks brother

  • @tomandrews5392
    @tomandrews5392 Před 5 lety +1

    I have been waiting to see this and of course I want to see a Revolver 1800 on 3s and 4s ..Thanks for the great testing of a brushed motor I definitely want to see other brushed motor testing to.. I did like the shirt too how can I get one?
    Keep up the great work love your motors they are fantastic ...

  • @bullroperc1618
    @bullroperc1618 Před 5 lety

    Was a funny video to watch and see you having fun. The new super stubby vs the regular stubby revolver would be cool test.

  • @JimmyB55
    @JimmyB55 Před 4 lety

    I think a video with dyno comparing your motors to competitors would make a great video. I love understanding the differences.

  • @latenttweet
    @latenttweet Před 5 lety

    That’s a cool dyno. We had to build one in college we used piano wire in a driveshaft like coupler. There were optical encoders on both sides. The piano wire would twist and we could measure that twist with the encoders. We measured the torque on the piano wire and deflection using weights so then could plot the torque of the motor. This was closer to a hub dyno though and the one in the video sounds like an inertia drum dyno.

  • @felipe96150
    @felipe96150 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the vid, amazingly fun! Id love to see a comparison between two 550 motors with "similar AWG" wiring , one running 3 slots, the other 5 slots armature. I think with the release of the Enduro, everybody has an interest in 5 slots motors these days. Cheers

  • @00godlovesus
    @00godlovesus Před 5 lety

    Cool John:)

  • @AMAZINGRC
    @AMAZINGRC Před 5 lety

    Oh my... now that's cool.!😁💪🏎

  • @danielb2146
    @danielb2146 Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome! Test a Magnum!!

  • @patmanz28
    @patmanz28 Před 5 lety

    Sweet. Can we compare to other silver can motors the trailmaster sport usually replaces?

  • @tedwells1941
    @tedwells1941 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for your videos, could you please test the RS370, 380 & 390 series motors.

  • @johnfulwider7510
    @johnfulwider7510 Před 5 lety +1

    I'd like to see comparisons between brands. Although I'm sure that being in the business people could say that the test were biased towards Holmes Hobby motors... Personally I don't think they would be. It would just be awesome to see a Castle vs Holmes Hobby vs Tekin, etc. Brushed, brushless, sensored, sensorless..... You get the idea.

  • @stshstsh07
    @stshstsh07 Před 5 lety

    in case anyone is wondering, its making about 0.14-0.18 ft/lb of torque, and about 0.12 horsepower on 2s lipo. which is roughly the power of 36 duckpower, (DPm) _duckpower mallard_ which is the standard breed for estimating duck power.
    3s yielded about 15% increase in torque, and about 50% increase in power to a *whopping* 54DPm!

  • @nicholasbarber4193
    @nicholasbarber4193 Před 5 lety +4

    Do you smell what The John is cooking?!?!

  • @swiftangel88
    @swiftangel88 Před 5 lety

    Maybe you could make a vlog about differences between Sensored and Sensorless ESC and Motors and compatibility. Just bought Sensored Brusless Motor and non Sensored ESC from your company and your staff suggested best I buy the Mamba X ESC since the Motor is Sensored. From my understanding, Sensored Motor will work with non Sensored ESC but not the other way round.

  • @AUBREYTHOMAS1979
    @AUBREYTHOMAS1979 Před 5 lety

    Mad science.... there's no other kind of science!

  • @robertg.tibelljohansson7869

    test the hobbywing axe combo before and after the latest Software update!?

  • @johnroddy931
    @johnroddy931 Před 5 lety +1

    Gotta do a magnum vs a crawl master pro with equivalent kv really interested in that one
    Ps you should do one of the new cheep knock off agins on of your real crawl master so people can see what Quality does

    • @takenpictures
      @takenpictures Před 5 lety +1

      I agree, I'd love to see a comparison between a Crawlmaster and the new Reedy and Yeah Racing 5 slot motors. Use the Expert, so it's machine wound vs machine wound.

  • @Powerpickle68
    @Powerpickle68 Před 5 lety

    As far as data, both are correct. Same as duct vs duck tape

  • @tomlucasrccrawlers9108
    @tomlucasrccrawlers9108 Před 5 lety +1

    It's Doo-tah.... and you got to say it with a British accent. Hahaha.
    You know I'll always support your product...I currently have roughly 15(that's a quick guess)Puller Pro's and Revolvers....still...
    I'd actually like to see a dyno comparison with the cheap rebranded/reverse engineered China motors.
    I'll tell you right now...the stock 5-pole in the Element Enduro is mediocre at best and feels cheap-on-power. I'll be doing ALOT of changes today on it.

  • @rctrucktalk1149
    @rctrucktalk1149 Před 5 lety

    Ditto on testing the Axial 35T and for what it is worth - Day-Ta...

  • @PhiddyPford
    @PhiddyPford Před 5 lety +1

    Forgot to wear your safety glasses and hearing protection during dyno pulls !🤭 until you started a fire!

  • @grumpyyerr
    @grumpyyerr Před 4 lety

    Please do some brushless pulls

  • @johnmasterbrayjr346
    @johnmasterbrayjr346 Před 5 lety +1

    I’d personally like to see some brushless motors being dynoed.

  • @Gorealawarfare
    @Gorealawarfare Před 5 lety

    Motor smoke is the best smoke!

  • @lawton70
    @lawton70 Před 5 lety

    I see the test runs for 4 seconds. Was this long enough for the motor to reach max rpm?

  • @brentrobinson3274
    @brentrobinson3274 Před 5 lety

    Love the dyno videos it's so rare that companies post raw data like this now go get the big guns out and put the dyno belt to the test safety third lol

  • @WestDesertShooter
    @WestDesertShooter Před 5 lety

    Could be really interesting to run through different transmissions and check power loss with the same motor through different transmissions

    • @whistonjuniors
      @whistonjuniors Před rokem

      you've described my PhD, got one of these infront of me right now. Just need to learn how to use it

  • @Shkieletor
    @Shkieletor Před 5 lety

    I would like to know how those graphs would varry betwen a 3000KV motor on 2S vs 2000KV motor on 3S. If You know what I mean...

    • @HolmesHobbies
      @HolmesHobbies  Před 5 lety

      Basically would look the same with a very slight edge to the low kv/high voltage, depending on ESC size. A micro X would more easily show a difference. A mamba X might not show it. As we boost up and ask for higher phase amps, it becomes more evident for any given ESC size. 4000kv on 3s and 6000kv on 2s might require a monster X to hide the difference.

    • @Shkieletor
      @Shkieletor Před 5 lety +1

      @@HolmesHobbies and how would graphs look like for 1800kv outrunner vs 1800kv inrunner?

  • @yoboo6167
    @yoboo6167 Před 5 lety

    Where oh where can I get me a pair of those sweet sweet safety glasses!?
    Oh, and it's pronounced data... 😁

  • @shannoncold
    @shannoncold Před 5 lety +2

    Are you sure ready to set parameter? hahahahahaha!

  • @quadproper
    @quadproper Před 5 lety

    if someone with access to an infinite number of motors AND a MiniPro Dyno i would ask for two things:
    1. test with different batteries (3S, low mAh & high discharge rate vs high mAh & low discharge rate, 3S same mAh high C vs low C)
    2. a second opinion if the smell comes from the motors. thanks to you, Mr. Longest Srewdriver in the World, i have some new phrases for these special moments in the elevator ("smell is gone, no big deal, no big deal...we have no warmth on any of the other equipment")

    • @Powerpickle68
      @Powerpickle68 Před 5 lety +1

      On #1 You forgot about the internal resistance of the battery. That will have more of an impact than what you suggested. When a fresh vs fresh battery fully charged is tested, there won't be a difference on such a short duration test.

  • @drjavogel
    @drjavogel Před 5 lety

    . . . and I thought I was a super nerd . . .

  • @trevorwhalen8659
    @trevorwhalen8659 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm sure like your video lol

  • @ShawnTheSilentLurkerKerr
    @ShawnTheSilentLurkerKerr Před 5 lety +1

    I usually pronounce it as data but I guess data is okay as well.

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain Před 4 lety

    How is it that the power crosses torque but then the power falls off faster than torque does? These graphs do not look like torque over time equals power.

    • @HolmesHobbies
      @HolmesHobbies  Před 4 lety

      probably just the scaling. Each factor has its own scale on the chart, so they aren't in the same units. torque x rpm = power.

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain Před 4 lety

      HolmesHobbies rpm=time, it’s a measure of how quickly the torque is being applied because 550 pounds a foot a second is what watt postulated a horse is capable of doing. Iirc about the anecdote.

    • @HolmesHobbies
      @HolmesHobbies  Před 4 lety

      @@KTMcaptain Since the time is baked into the rpm, we can take any discrete point of the chart and the data is still relevant. The chart does represent a test done over time, but the time isn't a linear plot on an axis. The power seems to "fall off" faster because it is the multiplication of two linear functions, which can result in a quadratic function. near the edges, the slope becomes steeper than the original lines. A good read about that here if you like math: jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMAT6680Su12/Brown/EMAT6680/Assignment%201.html

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain Před 4 lety

      HolmesHobbies my issue with it is beyond a specific rpm power will be greater than torque. For HP, it will always be higher than ft lbs beyond 5252 rpm.
      But I didn’t consider that time can be displayed in two functions. I’m use to seeing dyno plots with rpm being held on the x-axis. But if time is on the x-axis instead of rpm and torque is on the y, then torque and power can be shown in this fashion.

    • @dantrivett8435
      @dantrivett8435 Před 3 lety

      You both are talking mad scientist talk

  • @puzzleluvr
    @puzzleluvr Před 5 lety

    D-eh-ta

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain Před 4 lety

    7:43 “275ish newton meters of torque...” holy crap that’s tire tearing torque... lol 😂

  • @howardnicholls5447
    @howardnicholls5447 Před 3 lety

    How about gas powered on a dyno

  • @rw2king
    @rw2king Před 5 lety

    Its pronounced data 🤪🤘

  • @PhoenixRCCrawler
    @PhoenixRCCrawler Před 5 lety +2

    It’s not pronounced data. It pronounced data.

  • @nicholasbarber4193
    @nicholasbarber4193 Před 5 lety

    You look much younger with the trimmed beard and boyish hair cut. Always changing it up you are. lol The hat is still the best, because it makes people so angry. Hahahaha!

  • @dantrivett8435
    @dantrivett8435 Před 3 lety

    Love the videos but way over my head on the math

  • @benchtalkrc6895
    @benchtalkrc6895 Před 2 lety

    Lipo is not that good
    Need consent power to get good feed back