Simplifying References First = Better Practice

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  • čas přidán 21. 11. 2020
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    To draw a figure successfully requires simultaneous use of lots of different skills: simplifying the structure, finding the gesture, establishing the proportions and understanding the values in terms of simpler shapes. It's useful to find ways to practise each skills separately, just like an athlete would do various drills or exercises.
    This video shows you one way to create skill specific life drawing exercises for yourself by modifying references. You can first draw your simplifications right onto the references, and then draw them.
    Let me know what you think of this idea in the comments!
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  • @rk3714
    @rk3714 Před rokem +14

    There's something so comforting about the fact that you record in the outdoors to teach. It reminds me of "it's a nice day, let's take class outside". Also we live in similar-looking areas of the uk and it makes me feel at home

  • @alicerho
    @alicerho Před 3 lety +131

    Honestly this channel needs more love, their content us so helpful. I just found em a week ago and I WISH I found em earlier...

    • @gohtecksiong2118
      @gohtecksiong2118 Před 3 lety +7

      Join us in the community of draw together. You can draw together with Kenzo at Vimeo. Just search for lovelifedrawing at Vimeo.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +8

      thanks Alice so glad you found us :)

    • @CharlesHancockCreations
      @CharlesHancockCreations Před 3 lety +1

      Agreed! 💯

    • @spongebobpopsicle3963
      @spongebobpopsicle3963 Před 3 lety

      I know, I've been drawing for 3 months now, and as soon as I found this channel my improvement went through the roof. I'm so happy I never gave up!😊

  • @renookami4651
    @renookami4651 Před 3 lety +95

    2:35 People get constantly harrassed for "tracing" their own sketches when it's time to draw a clean lineart.
    Both beginners and commissioned artists who happen to stream their workflow. Yes, not even references but their own sketches themselves crafted for the sole purpose of using it a guide for the lineart. You can't ague with these guys by using facts and logic, they're already complaining about people using their tools like if everything was cheating in some way...

    • @renealbrechtsen9743
      @renealbrechtsen9743 Před 3 lety +7

      It's really the stupidest thing. It would be like complaining that a blacksmith used tools or guides he had made himself. Best thing to do is just ignore these people.

    • @jellybx
      @jellybx Před 3 lety +7

      there is a line where tracing is okay
      and where its not okay
      since "tracing" word is popular due to negative stuff
      most people believe that tracing is bad
      while its actually a useful tool especially for learning

    • @IAMSOUND99
      @IAMSOUND99 Před 3 lety +8

      i refuse to believe this is real. I actually believe you just made it up, no people complain about an artist tracing his own stuff.

    • @tranceaddict11
      @tranceaddict11 Před 3 lety +1

      @@IAMSOUND99 Yeah I feel like that's cap. It's literally the bread n butter workflow of basically every artist when you look up tutorials. Stupid comes in all forms and doesn't surprise anymore but even this is just too much

    • @KironKhashnobish
      @KironKhashnobish Před 3 lety +1

      I'm so glad I don't get bothered when I get harassed by 14 year olds online

  • @IrwinPeraltaArt
    @IrwinPeraltaArt Před 3 lety +7

    I remember when I always used posterize in Photoshop to create reference to paint from. It trained me to see simple abstract blocks of value. I don't use it anymore. However in doing master studies, I realized that I need to design the value shapes WAY more.

  • @kof3017
    @kof3017 Před 3 lety +3

    I didn't know this channel, really liking, simple to the point, as I like, lots of videos.

  • @Noor-hd5nf
    @Noor-hd5nf Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for making this content free. Learned more from this than dozens of videos I've seen before. Thank you.

  • @chaoswolf7976
    @chaoswolf7976 Před 3 lety +4

    Now THAT is, what i call some useful practice tipps. Keep it up that way :)

  • @christinekoper2407
    @christinekoper2407 Před 3 lety +3

    You’re a great teacher! Very simple and clear explanations. 😊 I especially liked the comments about tracing as an exercise. It’s a helpful tool! I’d agree that if you’re drawing the pose yourself after you trace, you can really learn a lot. Thanks for these videos!

  • @DeepakDhawan74
    @DeepakDhawan74 Před 3 lety +1

    Pure Gold...Brilliantly practical advice for all those struggling artists who are trying to break the mold...

  • @arielf361
    @arielf361 Před 3 lety +30

    "tracing is cheating"
    No rules, only tools

  • @yungjose3369
    @yungjose3369 Před 3 lety +1

    Best drawing channel on this platform

  • @cuadraws6673
    @cuadraws6673 Před 3 lety +17

    Hello Kenzo! I just wanted to say, thank you for the content that you create, you make some really helpful videos/guides for us

  • @pedromrls6
    @pedromrls6 Před 3 lety +4

    On the tracing subject: Also, most of the master of the past used "camera obscura", so get your s*** together and keep practicing. Love your channel!

  • @SuDaChiWa
    @SuDaChiWa Před 3 lety +1

    You and your dog and now the hand cycle? Cracking me up! I love your tutorials, Thank you for the generosity! Great ideas to chase.

  • @xDukii
    @xDukii Před 3 lety +1

    this channel has come a long way. I love you guys thank you so much

  • @KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES

    I dont think tracing is wrong. I think tracing is NECESSARY for practice. This whole tracing is bad is quite new and its because of alot of online traced and stolen artwork and ip, meaning its a money issue, people didnt get mad about it growing up.

  • @minniethriver
    @minniethriver Před 3 lety

    You're such a good teacher, Kenzo! I feel so good after watching your videos. Sometimes I get frustrated and overwhelmed while learning new things and I need a lot of inner strengh to go through with it. But not with your tutorials, you make it so easy that I believe I can easily do all of this which fuels my motivation. This is so powerful. Keep up the good work 💙

  • @squeezehard_draws9815
    @squeezehard_draws9815 Před 3 lety +1

    holy molly!! this is nugget ! thank you so much for such great help.

  • @wallrider73
    @wallrider73 Před 3 lety +2

    This is such a fantastic channel. Kenzo you're such a great host and teacher. I couldn't believe it when I searched the channel and found all the Steve Rude content. I've been a Nexus fan since forever. (And now I want to see you pay tribute by drawing Space Ghost!)

  • @gahlainrigh5927
    @gahlainrigh5927 Před 3 lety +54

    ART!ART!ART!!
    A wise man once said "DON'T YOU EVER DRAW FROM YOUR MIND AGAIN! HUH!?"

    • @cfdat3924
      @cfdat3924 Před 3 lety +2

      I don’t really get it but its a little funny

    • @oliverhassan6777
      @oliverhassan6777 Před 3 lety +12

      @@cfdat3924 the person is talking about ethan becker

    • @meticulous_mot
      @meticulous_mot Před 3 lety +4

      ART! ART! ART! ART!

    • @gahlainrigh5927
      @gahlainrigh5927 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cfdat3924 go look up ethan Becker. He's an amazing pro artist that teaches students to be flexible with their skills. Also he worked on the new voltron's art.

    • @debbiesunlight7047
      @debbiesunlight7047 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh yes. The great Ethan Becker. Hilarious 😂 funny content wrapped up in brilliant art advice and teaching. Very unique. And then there is kenzo here another totally unique artist and gifted teacher. I think along with , of course, proko they are the best three on u tube.

  • @laurap.9535
    @laurap.9535 Před 3 lety +10

    Inspirational as always, thank you Kenzo!

  • @learclow
    @learclow Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing this, I'm gonna try this out for sure!

  • @franciscoyudico5486
    @franciscoyudico5486 Před 3 lety +1

    Feels like a pat on the shoulder, thanks man! Greetings from Mexico!

  • @spaziotempomio
    @spaziotempomio Před 3 lety +1

    you guys are the best one. thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @petergamble6318
    @petergamble6318 Před 3 lety

    Refreshingly unique content - thanks!

  • @ajtatosmano2
    @ajtatosmano2 Před 3 lety +3

    I believe drawing from live models and without traced simplification early in the learning process is much more effective, but only if you have a teacher supervising your work. People who learn with tracing often struggle when they have to draw live. However if you don't have a teacher you might not improve at all. Many teachers don't like tracing because of it's not that effective and you end up "constructing" your sketches instead of drawing freely. But if you are alone, it's better to do tracing. 1.take photo, but draw live 2. trace photo and check your mistakes 3.draw from the photo (or live if you still have the same setup) again. This is the way. (The fact that people in the industry are constructig their drawing is different, becase they have to perform in a given time. And many of them would benefit hugely from live drawings, despite being good at what they do)

  • @jellybx
    @jellybx Před 3 lety +2

    oh man i wish i know this method earlier :<
    i did gesture grind before... only on gesture...
    and i actually have no idea about the natural flow which appear on human figure
    since when i start, most people on my art community always said never focus on outline
    then i continue that daily grind for almost a year...
    well its not completely pointless
    thanks to that now i could capture the gesture and exaggerate it easier
    but then this video is pretty much giving a bridge into a knowledge which i missed so far!!!
    thank you very much for making this video!!!!

    • @khakikohii
      @khakikohii Před 3 lety

      I'm on the same boat right now, I've been grinding gestures for 3 months. I wanna ask if when one should start practicing anatomy?

    • @jellybx
      @jellybx Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@khakikohii u can always learn a subject u interested anytime
      but if u want to improve fast
      each time u learn something new, try to find the stuff where u struggling the most during the process
      then try to find a way to solve that problem
      for example if u have a problem in imagining rotated torso, u can then try to imagine rotating a box
      to solve this u might need to grind boxes rotation
      then u can apply the new trick u learned from the grind on your previous study
      thats what i did for the past few months
      and now i have learned a lot of new tricks by keep repeating that process

  • @je4nette
    @je4nette Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much, your videos are extremely helpful and easy to understand. I learn so much from you.

  • @it9698
    @it9698 Před 3 lety

    This just might be the video to make me start drawing again. You make drawing simple. Subbed

  • @anthonykoeslag
    @anthonykoeslag Před 3 lety +1

    I can't tell you how amazing your videos are, you really help me with my drawings and they are just an absolute pleasure to watch. thanks

  • @oliviateston4240
    @oliviateston4240 Před 3 lety

    Really, really top!! Thank you so much !!

  • @jesuselyizux
    @jesuselyizux Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video man!!, I didn't know that and that's the reason I always try to sketch a good reference erasing lots of times

  • @KamXxD
    @KamXxD Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you so much for that video, very helpful!

  • @rogermonroe8021
    @rogermonroe8021 Před 3 lety

    Great video kenzo! I'm excited to try out these excercises.
    PS love your shoes. I'm planning on getting them in blue :)

  • @nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752

    Such valuable exercises. Thanks!

  • @antmax
    @antmax Před 2 lety

    One of your video's popped up a couple of days ago and I knew I had to sub straight away. I did an illustration degree about 20 years ago, just before the internet took off. We weren't really taught anything practical, the emphasis was on ideas and concepts, skill and technique would come later, or left to technicians . Just thrown in the deep end with life drawing classes. Expected to simply get on with it. Different length poses, different media and with some lecturers, interesting props and music to create a setting and tell a story.
    Outside of life drawing, we were never taught how to use reference effectively, it was mostly trial and error with no processes to get the most out of your reference material in a streamlined and effective way. Really like what you are doing here. I ended up doing 3D environments for video games and only recently started drawing and painting again for my own satisfaction. You have really opened my eyes to a bunch of things I was missing before. Thank you :)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much Adrian, that means a lot coming from an experienced artist such as yourself :)

  • @andreegendron
    @andreegendron Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much Kenzo. This is so helpful. I have been too busy lately to follow your tutos as I'd wish to. I check your newsletters hoping I'll find more free time to do these precious excercices more often. Take care. Hello to Maggie :-)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +1

      hey so nice to hear from you Andrée! no worries, just do drawing whenever you can :)

  • @RyanParreno
    @RyanParreno Před 3 lety +1

    I was thinking about how tracing could be useful in learning to draw and thanks for sharing your acquired knowledge so I don't have to figure it out on my own

  • @MartiHectorR
    @MartiHectorR Před 3 lety +1

    Very helpful video for beginners like me. Thank you for sharing!

  • @rexvitale3491
    @rexvitale3491 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for sharing this information, I’ve seen some improvement in my drawing.

  • @Vanyx1000
    @Vanyx1000 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you sm!

  • @chejo6095
    @chejo6095 Před 3 lety

    amazing content!!

  • @Jrock3891
    @Jrock3891 Před 3 lety

    I love this channel . Its so informing

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Před 3 lety

    Great show …

  • @northernhemisphere4906
    @northernhemisphere4906 Před 3 lety +2

    amazing stuff, man!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +2

      Appreciate it!

    • @northernhemisphere4906
      @northernhemisphere4906 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lovelifedrawing I try to gradually cease to be a purist and use whatever helps yo really get it, your video was like an eye opener even though my eyes were open!

  • @backgroundcharacter2615
    @backgroundcharacter2615 Před 3 lety +2

    Since I could never figure this out I now just go with what looks right.

  • @souravsaha3140
    @souravsaha3140 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful content

  • @souravsaha3140
    @souravsaha3140 Před 3 lety

    Excellent

  • @shuhussein1276
    @shuhussein1276 Před 3 lety +1

    SUBSCRIBED!!!

  • @erickirwansyahputranegara451

    Your simplifying art are even better than my finished work.

  • @annettebrown9369
    @annettebrown9369 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @BBrostik
    @BBrostik Před 3 lety

    Hey Kenzo, been loving all your videos about gesture drawing since I've recently gotten back into drawing and have been wanting to draw more dynamic and expressive poses for a while now with often very frustrating and unsatisfying results as most of my gesture poses either end up looking messy, off model or stiff. *Been experimenting with Mike Mattesi's FORCE gesture method and while it's been a real damn struggle to try and understand it in its entirety, it's also been pretty fun and interesting to find out so many ways to approach gesture & figure drawing.*
    Just wanted to ask tho, *what's the best tools/equipment/paper for gesture drawing?* I've noticed that you use charcoal and it seems to be the most 'expressive/fluid' in its design, but I've also used black pencils, simple cheap Crayola crayons, charcoal pencils, ballpoint pens and a variety of different B pencils. I've heard that Newsprint & Half-tone paper is also extremely effective with different types of charcoal so there's such a wide diverse of options that it gets kinda intimidating towards knowing where to start.
    Either way, thanks so much for these amazing tutorial videos about the beauty and expressiveness of gesture/figure drawing. Hope to see more soon!

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby6283 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much

  • @neilneilrebel
    @neilneilrebel Před 3 lety +2

    Ello from the Philippines!

  • @RachelleByersArt
    @RachelleByersArt Před 3 lety +1

    Just found your channel! New sub. Great videos

  • @Crakygamez
    @Crakygamez Před 3 lety +1

    Its surreal how much information internet can contain.

  • @royliang4540
    @royliang4540 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the great video! Just by watching it i feel like i have progressed lol

  • @KF22TV
    @KF22TV Před 3 lety

    14:08 . We don't need old boonk back, he still lives within you, just not as a trouble maker. You naturally a funny dude bro😂😂😂😂😂

  • @harshbarj
    @harshbarj Před 3 lety

    Tracing to learn is fine. If it helps you grasp the shape of the subject that is all that matters. Just don't claim tracings as your own. Eventually you will lean how to draw with just a reference(which even advanced artists still use) and will not need to trace.

  • @Ienzo0
    @Ienzo0 Před 3 lety +1

    ty

  • @Fethennour
    @Fethennour Před 3 lety +1

    Hello, I have a question: I aspire to learn figure drawing but digitally, with a graphic tablet. However, I see many, if not all, artists who do it traditionally hold their pen in... a certain way that I don't know if it even has a name. Anyway, it looks quite difficult to hold a pen the same way when you draw on a graphic tablet. Got any tips? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you very much.

  • @MrEllinan
    @MrEllinan Před 3 lety +1

    And I thought this couldn't get any better! (I'm joking, of course ;) ) Been around this channel for almost a year and I can't adress enough how useful your tips and demos had encourage me not just for better drawing but for developing love and confidence with my smaller successes and masive mistakes. I'm gonna try this new piece of wisdom in my daily practice
    BTW: is it posible to bring back the featured artist that you used to share? It's never to much to peeck into an artist mind trought their drawings. Keep the awesome work going! :D

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +1

      thank you! yeah bringing back the featured artist videos is a great idea, i will do that!

    • @MrEllinan
      @MrEllinan Před 3 lety

      @@lovelifedrawing looking forward to it! :D

  • @canaldesugestoesa6651
    @canaldesugestoesa6651 Před 3 lety

    Great

  • @manoh_scoob
    @manoh_scoob Před 3 lety +1

  • @user-re5qf7xc3d
    @user-re5qf7xc3d Před 3 lety +3

    This is great, do u have a playlist?

    • @gohtecksiong2118
      @gohtecksiong2118 Před 3 lety +1

      Kenzo has been posting figure drawing tutorial on CZcams for years. Please subscribe to this channel and follow the playlist. And better still join us in the community of drawing together at Vimeo. Just search for lovelifedrawing on Vimeo.

  • @khalil7708
    @khalil7708 Před 3 lety +1

    Looks like Hackney

  • @maketas00
    @maketas00 Před 3 lety

    Hermoso perro viejo.
    01:03

  • @JoiskiMe
    @JoiskiMe Před 3 lety

    Clip Studio Paint has posterisation ;)

  • @IyaOmitadeIfatoosin
    @IyaOmitadeIfatoosin Před 3 lety

    Tried to sign up for your newsletter, got rejected. Can't figure out why, any guidance?

  • @tristotech
    @tristotech Před 3 lety

    How about drawing with cylinders and balls on reference? Not only simplifyng the reference, it will help artist to visualize the volume

  • @Alsyoutubeaccount
    @Alsyoutubeaccount Před 3 lety

    In procreate I use the curves tool to posterize images. By setting the levels to extremes you can get various levels of value seperation.

  • @ferkinskin
    @ferkinskin Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks. Great as usual. left a link on my sketchbook tour video on my channel if that's ok? If it isn't, please inform me and i will remove it.

  • @user-jg9kl2ey9x
    @user-jg9kl2ey9x Před 3 lety +1

    I just started on learning how to draw do I need to know anatomy to do this?

    • @jaimebm816
      @jaimebm816 Před 3 lety

      Yes, u need basic knowledge of anatomy in order to understand what you draw

    • @jaimebm816
      @jaimebm816 Před 3 lety

      Search for Andrew Loomis books (PDF)

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +1

      I think you need very very basic anatomy when starting out - learn to see the major landmarks on the figure - try our beginner series on this channel!

  • @mikekazz5353
    @mikekazz5353 Před 3 lety +3

    *This comment can be ignored.*
    I heard gimp is a free photo editing software (like photoshop) and they have an app version too but I haven't downloaded it yet cause I don't have a drawing tablet for pc and I don't draw with my phone.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +1

      thanks Mike. i've heard of it, never tried it though

  • @jordanallen7496
    @jordanallen7496 Před 3 lety

    Where do you find your reference photos?

  • @-_-8123
    @-_-8123 Před 3 lety +1

    what site do you use for these ref

  • @AngryBrother360
    @AngryBrother360 Před 2 lety

    People have a problem with the (WORD) tracing, but okay with the practice when its called rotoscope!. 😂💯👍🏿

  • @zzzcocopepe
    @zzzcocopepe Před 3 lety

    0:32 git gud

  • @xNezrx
    @xNezrx Před 3 lety

    123 like is mine
    Nice

  • @d.fitzgerald3751
    @d.fitzgerald3751 Před 3 lety

    if it makes the practice easier... isn't that cheating? I mean, if you take away the challenge, then where is the practice and don't you learn less that way? not meaning to be ignorant, just trying to understand

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  Před 3 lety +1

      good question Delia. this doesn't take away the challenge - it's still hard. i think you want practice to be consistently successful. So it should be challenging up to the point you can succeed with it. just trying to sit down and do a 'good gesture' or whatever straight off is often too hard to have success with. even with this approach, for a lot of people, it would be very hard but doable so that you can be successful. you wouldn't say that teaching someone to swim with a float is cheating and they should just drown. and in fact, even advanced swimmers will still use floats in order to isolate certain parts of swimming technique. thanks for the good question!

    • @ventanniii
      @ventanniii Před 3 lety

      This doesn't exactly make your practice easier... But it definitely makes your practice more effective! You're studying how to make 3D form in a 2D drawing. So understanding how to look at something is incredibly important.

  • @SephirothWaifu
    @SephirothWaifu Před 3 lety

    For some weird reason reference models are always white. Borring. I love different prospective models