Ty Norris Explains His Role in 2013 NASCAR Scandal
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Ty Norris, former EVP and GM at Michael Waltrip Racing, played an integral part in the 2013 Richmond race scandal and was suspended as a result. He tells all about what happened that night, taking accountability for his actions and explaining deeper inner workings involving many teams in that race. Hear why he thinks NASCAR had to do something after that night and his reaction to taking the harshest penalty in the sport’s history.
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Dale has created a space these guys feel safe in. Kudos to him and Mike.
dale jr is a bleeding heart liberal
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Yeah, he's awesome, you're right!
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Dale Jr, a "liberal"??? Why do you say that? Give us at least 2 or 3 examples, please. Like most old school lifelong nascar fans, I quit watching nascar racing entirely, years ago. But back when I was a diehard fan, I don't recall any drivers being liberals. Hell, at that point, there was NEVER even a democrat president to show up at a nascar race, only republicans. By the way, I'm a staunch conservative Christian, but I am NOT "a republican"..........I hate all politicians, they're all crooks. But modern day liberals are by far the worst. Sick freaks. God handed them over to a reprobate mind.
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Hell yeah, good for him. He's a smart man.
@@howabouthetruth2157,
Excellent statements. The only reason I watch some of Dale's and Kyle's podcasts is for past driver and owner interviews.
Ty Norris: _Has entire masterplan..._
Brian Vickers: *_mass visible confusion_*
He got that from his wife.
Where's Victors now?
@@chuckstith838 apparantly a bad neighbor in New York or something.
2013 was when his at the time girlfriend was photographed with Epstein's recruiter Ghislaine Maxwell too.
@@ashketchumsdad lmao
Just bring back the old Winston points system and this crap won’t happen. This whole Chase format blows. Having a regular season champion and a cup champion? Stupid.
totally agree , playoffs just a circus
Which one? Cause they changed the formula alot during the Winston years
@@codydisney9959 That is what people don't get. NASCAR has evolved and changed the points system over time. This isn't a new concept.
You’re highly uneducated
@@tcmusic6429 tf? Who?
The current points system is why a lot of fans have walked away from NASCAR.
Yep it robbed Harvick last year
It rewards luck not consistency. You can place top 5 all year and get in a wreck that's not your fault and be out of the championship in 1 race
@@tuccimane or you could have a top 15-20 ish car alk year and get a fluke win to advance late in the playoffs
The corporate sponsors want beta males like Jr, the fans want alpha males like his dad....
This friggin Chase has screwed so many drivers it is so wrong and it's not going to get better.
If you do one thing junior, please release every minute of this, i’d love to watch this entire conversation! Love Ty!
You have to listen to the podcast for entire conversation
@@mikekasiner4453 I wish they’d release the entire podcasts w/ the video
Just dropped in to say Thanks to Dale Jr. for all he has done in keeping the Earnhardt name an integral part of all us old Dale Sr. fans lives, His passing put such a heavy load on his shoulders, and the damage done by the unmentionable one, to DEI was in most part, able to be forgotten, as he is the one that Sr's legacy was passed to, not DEI no matter what legal paper work she has to the contrary. Much love and respect for the excellent job you have done in keeping the faith with us, the fans of the Earnhardt Tradition. Thank you.
Again, just learn so much when Jr. and Mike have these guests. Outstanding. Thank you. Keep it coming.
I am not a big NASCAR fan and stumbled across this podcast. It is amazing and I love Dale’s honesty…I love it
I'm glad he called out Marty Smith. I hate that guy with a passion.
Me too.
He really is a piece of crap
Marty Smith is total trash.
He is an egotistical tool.
None of any of it would have happened if the stupid chase wasn't there in the first place.
Bring back 2003!
instead, we ended up with the "win and you're in" system because of all of this. they'd be better off going back to the season long format
seethe
Exactly
it's upsetting how the sport will uproot and ruin almost anything to create excitement at this point ... nothing is sacred anymore, history largely ignored and avoided.... yet the thing that will pull back the MOST fans (and probably revive nascar to a large extent) is to just go with the most obvious solution that literally every racing series since the dawn of time uses : season-long points system, most points win...
I just want to hear Dale rant about Brian Vickers.
It sucks being the one singled out when everybody's doing it. It's like being on the freeway and everybody's running 85 and you get pulled over. Try arguing to the cop everybody else is doing 85 and you'll get the whole if your friends jump off a bridge speech. The media really did villainize this dude back when that happened I remember.
He and Clint.
if my friends jump off a bridge..... and survive because the water is deep enough
ya... imma also jump off that bridge
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thats what i tell the cops when they try that "jump off a bridge" crap
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im just keeping up with traffic....
which is safer than doing 20 under EVERY other car.... causing people to lane change, brake hard.... might cause cars to "pile up" behind me, leading to a traffic jam
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most traffic jams are caused by people driving too slow
ya get 3 cars in a mile doing 20 under..... and soon your gonna have 200 cars piled up behind the slow cars
These IDIOTS who run NASCAR are the same ones that screwed over Junior Johnson. Who brought them their title sponsor for over 32 years
And NASCAR then screwed themselves by getting rid of
WINSTON CUP !!
Like your momma would have said. Don’t worry what other people do worry about what you do.😂
I can’t believe I watch NASCAR podcasts and I literally know probably 3 drivers 😂
Bro your the man!
I do the same with all kinds of stuff. I watch wrestling podcasts and drama podcasts and all sorts of stuff I don't follow outside of the podcasts lol
I can't believe that I watch BLat every day and Jr. every day.... and BLat is here doing the same!! My favorite 2 channels coming together!!!
Missing out! Jr is the new Rogan
@@illiogicalphilosophy2481 it’s good stuff!
This whole podcast with Ty was amazing explained so much. Why DEI is gone the relationship with Sr and Jr. Just watched it on NBC Sports after Nashville. Still wish Jr would of been able to run DEI.
JRM may come out better
Truex ended up "out of a job", signed up with the "no count" Furniture Row Racing, and the rest is some real interesting Nascar history...
Yes, MTJ lost more than any of the other racers, but it ended up being the best thing him going to Furniture Row and being paired with Cole Pearn.
MTJ turned furniture row racing into a competitive Tier 1 team the second he stepped foot in that organization , and especially 2016 when he switched to Toyota
And won his cup series in 2017 with them , even yet 2016 he was a margin close to winning that Daytona 500 from Denny Hamlin ( which 2019 and up they’re teammates now , since MTJ after 2018 because of the Furniture row racing closure had no other choice but to merge with JGR , since furniture row racing had JGR Toyota alliances anyways )
It’s sad that the sanctioning body made Ty Norris their scapegoat. But is anyone ever really surprised? It simplifies everything to have just 1 guy to point a finger at. I’m 100% sure they didn’t expect Norris to rat out every single team that was pulling on-track stunts to get their teammate an advantage here or there. I wish he would’ve GONE PUBLIC with his intel, and further humiliated Drunk Brian France.
I wish I had a dollar for every time a team got away with a scoring “cheat” or a “team order” that aided a teammate or a fellow competitor they had a deal with.
That’s the only reason some of the higher ups were pulling him aside to give him encouragement. It was to try to make sure he didn’t feel the need to oust everyone else for cheating too.
He wasn’t their only scapegoat. How about Jeremy Mayfield? They come down on his ass and Brian France runs his moronic yap about “zero tolerance “. The he gets busted for driving while high. That was the final straw for me being a NASCAR fan.
@@davidschmude Mayfield sold meth aswell as used it. Stole somebody's racing equipment from a parking lot. Not clearing France for anything but Mayfield is a little bit larger p.o.s.
@@davidschmude I'm local to northern georgia, Mayfield has been known as a drug fiend for as long as most people have every known him here. He still shows up to local dirt tracks to make himself feel famous.
This isn't the first time this has happened. 1993 Watkins Glen. Jack Roush had Wally take Spencer to the grass on the restart and let Mark by, Jack Roush called it over the radio. Later in the season, a short weld on an intake manifold/spacer plate cost Mark Martin the championship. Probably cost Wally his ride, Wally was pissed.
There’s always going to be a scapegoat. Ty’s the better man in this deal.
Ty Norris star's in the biggest blockbuster of the summer......
"FALL GUY" is coming to a theater near you!!
(In that movie commercial guys voice)
Ty Norris, Clint Bowyer, in a game, that you regret playing. Fall guy
Then the last quote
"He just came right around, craziest thing I ever saw"
Fall Guy rated pg13
@@ashketchumsdad 😂👍
Blame NASCAR for creating a stupid ass playoff system.
I still think it was iffy what he did, but I appreciate him having the guts to admit it, rebuke it, acknowledge the need for it to be systemically fixed or removed, and pointing out that others deserved as much ire, if not more, for using similar schemes, in a system that encouraged such shady dealings.
What's amazing about this is that you had a few teams that night doing stuff like the 55 team. The 15 gets all the attention but no one realizes that David Gilliland and another squad I believe had been making deals as well, and they were investigated by NASCAR afterwards too. That race as a whole, though, was just a blunder for many, many reasons. I hope we don't see another mess of a time like that again but knowing the competitiveness of everyone I doubt that that was the last of the scandals to take place in our sport's history.
At least it gave us the opportunities to watch good ass videos like this (and others) about it down the line.
And edwards jumped the restart
Logano and Gilliland’s teams made a deal and NASCAR even uploaded the radio, but those teams just got told to knock it off and it was swept under the rug.
@@warrenself the fact that they didn't get the hammer from nascar is quite baffling
@@nascarnational Truly. Ty getting all the blame is awful. Playoffs have created so much turmoil and hurt the sport but NASCAR thinks the drama helps. Sad.
We all know this is why most people are going to watch this episode as a whole is the scandal at Richmond.
Maybe from a drivers pov but not for me, Clyde. The discussion on Ty's time at DEI was my favorite part.
I was totally stunned back then by how this was handled. Those orders are totally normal in F1 and you could see it happening in NASCAR many races before this if you paid attention. You didn't need to be on the tower to see it. It still happens today getting other team drivers wins to 'lock in'. This totally exposed the stupidity of such a points system and NASCAR only doubled down on it. My 4 year old could run NASCAR better than it's current leadership. It's so pathetic what a great sanctioning body has become and how irrelevant stock car racing has become.
The s**t always hits the fan when you say the quiet stuff out loud.
Old points system is better. Gotta reward consistency. A true champion runs good all year not just 10 races. KB won the championship after missing half the year. What a joke.
And he still had almost as many wins as any other driver. I agree about the old points system however Kyle was deserving that year
This is what happens when you mess with points and stages and all the bs nascar has come up with for a championship.
This was years before stage racing and a year before the win and you are in the playoffs.
@@TheForeverRanger ... correct. And this “scandal” forever exposed NASCAR (the sanctioning body, not the racing) as being a complete joke among professionally organized sporting events. To this day, they’re still tweaking, tinkering and willing to alter every single method used to determine their season champion...it’s a 🤡 show!
At least back in the Winston Cup days, teams knew how many points each race awarded, and the few ways it took to gain points on your competition. Now each team needs a genius Director of Competition with computer for a brain and lap by lap spread sheets...
this was years before stage racing and win and your in
Stage racing/“win & you’re in” is partly because of this.
You had drivers with wins who weren’t qualified. All the drivers involved in spingate (except Bowyer) would’ve been already locked in with wins.
Richard Petty said it best: "NASCAR used to be about racing". Today it's about the circus coming to town.
I aint gone lie since my favorite driver Gordon retired i haven't really watched Nascar....But I miss when Nascar had the Dale Jr and the Mark Martins Rusty Wallace's and so forth Nascar will never be the same
Ive never been much of a nascar fan but ive thoroughly enjoyed your show! its been an interesting behind the scenes peek!! keep it up, ill keep watching!
And this is why Stage racing and Playoff racing is a bunch of bull
Ty Norris got my respect
I would rather watch 2-3 hour of the "behind the scene drama" then watch the race. Jr get on that
Dale Jr and Mike are great interviewers. That being said the details Ty talked about seem to outline how complicated NASCAR has become and it's not a good thing
I seem to remember Dale SR, having Neil Bonnet park and start on the final race of 1993 for pretty much the same reason.
WWE: we are a show not a sport. Nascar: Hold our beer.
Mike helton 3:16
Damn i was hoping he'd talk more about Bowyer spinning... how i remember it: No matter what happened, Kahne was a lock for the chase due to 2 wins and below 10th in points (at the time it was top 10 plus highest winners between 11th and 20th in points). Newman took the lead from Edwards with 8 or 9 to go; a win would give him 2, and knock Truex out for sure. Bowyer spins, caution comes out and about everyone pits; Newman loses the lead. From there, Logano was ALSO behind Gordon in points, meaning Logano was 11th and Gordon 10th, this meant Logano would be the 12th man in the chase due to being higher in points than Newman or Truex. So Vickers pitting put Logano back to 10th and Gordon to 11th (Gordon didn't have a win yet that year). When all was said and done, IIRC Truex ended up tying Newman in points and got the tie breaker based on 2nd place finishes, and Logano beat Gordon by 1 to be 10th in points. The Front Row car of Gilliland (or maybe Ragan) helped Logano, and I believe they got fined afterwards, and that's what Ty was referring to there. Not sure what Hendrick car he was referring to "struggling", I'm guessing Kahne?
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying. If you get caught cheating, you're not trying hard enough." Words of wisdom from my first Training Advisory Councilor (TAC) in the Army.
Can someone explain this like explaining it to someone who doesn't watch nascar?
Please! I don't know what they're talking about.
@@samanthab1923 My recollection is, a driver intentionally spun his car shortly before the end of a race, creating a yellow flag situation, which froze the drivers' positions, which allowed another driver to enter the «playoffs».
Look up the Richmond race scandal, I don’t remember what year this was. Basically Michael Waltrip Racing radioed to their drivers, had one pit for no reason other than to manipulate points and had another intentionally spin his car out to bring out a yellow flag. Doing so put their other driver into the playoff format and knocked out a driver. When they caught wind of what MWR did they fined and penalized them, I don’t remember if the points penalty itself was enough to remove their car from the playoff chase or they outright removed them but they gave the spot to Jeff Gordon who was knocked out due to their manipulation of the race.
Adding to rundown- the driver who was removed from the playoffs was Martin Truex Jr, who was sponsored by NAPA Auto Parts. Napa was so disappointed by what happened that they dropped their sponsorship of Michael Waltrip Racing's car, causing Martin Truex Jr to lose that ride and possibly his career in Cup racing. Fortunately, he ended up getting a ride later with Furniture Row Motorsports, where he struggled for a couple years, until they formed an alliance with Joe Gibbs Racing and he went on to win a championship at Furniture Row before moving to JGR. Meanwhile, Michael Waltrip Racing ended up closing their doors after losing not only Napa's sponsorship, but a few others as well and couldn't afford to continue racing.
Fans who followed the sport closely knew those things were going on and were just happy the team or driver they supported did not get caught up in it. Ty and Martin Truex were the guys who probably got hurt the most.
The best consolation there is Martin went on and became a champion and there was nothing they could do to rig that I'm sure NASCAR tried but Martin is going to be gone and the way he's been running I think it's probably best he can't get out of his own way😢
It is really sad what they call "nascar", now a days.
ty you should've just told brian yes you have a tire going down
That would have been the NASCAR equivalent of "Fernando is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?"
What the hell!! Ads have gotten so out of control that we have an ad in the middle of a 8 min or so video that is just part of the video not marked at a CZcams ad. This is too out of control
Why is pitting for a point a problem?
I hope the wild days of rogue drivers and mechanics come back and change the dynamic of "PC NASCAR".
NASCAR is still stumbling around in total confusion.....
NASCAR has always had those mystery debris caution at the end of races
Or stuff like when Chase Elliot most popular driver is leading at COTA the first time NASCAR has been there and they finally decided to throw the red flag for heavy rain.
You know it’s a bogus flag when the announcers and the camera crew can’t find the debris on track and then they all just drop the subject and the cameras start showing the crowd.
Outstanding interview yet again..
There always has to be a fall guy.
I don't think anyone from MWR will ever tell the full truth of that day.
"I don't think anyone from MWR will ever tell the full truth of that day." Probably not. I'm sure Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus will never ever admit to doing precisely what Ty Norris and Brian Vickers did at the exact same time. Hendricks is WAAAY too powerful for NASCAR to accuse of anything. Hendricks has manipulated the President of the United States to absolve him of criminal acts that he was sentenced to the Federal Penitentiary for. He's like "The Godfather" with all the power he wields and the "favors" he bestows on his friends. What chance does Brian Franz have against him calling him out for cheating in NASCAR? Two teams do the exact same thing at the exact same time and one team owner (MWR) gets fined one of the largest fines in the history of NASCAR and is disgraced. The other team owner (HMS) gets NASCAR to change the rules on the spot to allow his driver into the playoffs when the rules said no. I realize that Rick Hendricks is one of the most respected owners in NASCAR, just not by me.
This is nothing new....back in the day, there were rumors that a timely Buddy Arrington spin that kept Petty on the lead lap late in a race would result in the arrival of some much needed parts Monday morning. Don't blame Arrington...he was a struggling independent. This is not confirmed, but it was out there at the time...
not a nascar or race fan. but this is a good podcast. they should sign with youtube
My daily and my road course car both have MWR shift knobs in them that we got from the liquidation sale. Hate to see what happened over there, they had the best fan tour facility in the area.
Blame Brian Vickers for this one. If he would have pitted as he was told to nothing would have happened.
This is in no ways Vickers fault
@@MJForever1999 have to agree with ya. Vickers just kinda ended up in between a rock and a hard place at a REALLY bad time
I was hoping they would cover this!
Maybe next podcast they can get Bowyer to admit to his "Spin-gate" incident!
You’re a real man when your explanation doesn’t include a back story of how everyone else is doing “fishy” stuff before you explain you part in the story...
I wanted to hear about the jet fuel stuff or whatever it was....
That's what I was expecting to hear about
Just as much dirty politics in NASCAR as there is in Washington DC.
No mention of Clint.
He did mention "the 15" when he was talking about all of the radio channels he was listening to. He said something to the effect of people claim he was talking to the 15, but he didn't have the time (because of all the other chatter).
@@Zach636465 I was hoping he would tell us what made Clint's arm itch.
Ty made the mistake of saying the quiet part out loud
Ty,
Thanks for fleshing out your side of the story. Yet, as a former NASCAR fan, everything wasn't ok even if Jim France and others told you it would be. In fact, that was the evening I walked out of those stands and never watched another race.
Fast forward to the "woke agenda" of today and I completely dropped off the map in viewing/supporting any professional sports.
Wokeness has killed my interest in professional sports and most media now
Same
Me Three after i watched the Clippers lay down & throw the last 2 games of the season so they wouldnt have to face the Lakers in the first round of the nba playoffs! wtf i will never root for them again, what a joke!
Yeah, but in all fairness, Nascar is ultimately the one to blame here. Until they bring back a year long championship points system that rewards the best driver in the year, these same types of shenanigans will continue to happen.
Just another reason I haven't watched NASCAR for years. It's more like the WWE where the company controls the story line. True, they cannot make sure a certain driver, owner or manufacturer wins a race but they selectively enforce rules or change rules to effect outcomes. Get you some DIRTVision. Your choice of three different live events tonight and 2 different live events tomorrow. No bullshit politics, no playing favorites.
After hearing this podcast, I can see McMurrays beef with Nascar.
I have an idea, how about the guy who places best all year, wins the big trophy at the end.............
One of the many reasons I hate the Chase is because it leads to shady crap like this!
Ryan McGee is the biggest joke there is. He is part of the problem with NASCAR. A bunch of morons talking about stuff they have no idea about. I have as much experience running a NASCAR team as Ryan McGee. What a joke. Ty Norris is awesome. One of the best podcasts so far.
Mind you McGee is the same guy who wrote an article on how Kurt's suspension shouldn't have been lifted, despite the charges being dropped
I'd include Marty Smith as well,His stupidity is on display regularly.
Not enough
He and Jim Utter. Both trash.
But if McGee was on here you'd be praising him. People like you are too easy to manipulate. What Norris did was terrible and he is now forever known as a failure.
I've said it once, I'll say it again. nascar created this, they created to chase a pionts system with the ability for that to happen
Basically Ty’s saying he got in trouble because Vickers could just listen to his team without an explanation.
This is what happens when you do playoff crap in racing. Just go back to getting points each week. Total it up
duh
You’re solid in my eyes Ty. Thanks for supporting the Earnhardt name for so long.
Spingate 2013 was the beginning of the end for me. Started with Clint Boyer not manning up and admit it was intentional, (NASCAR scrambled the incar camera when Clint cranked the wheel left), then they wouldn't act like an impartial governing body (to protect Toyota, I assume). Cancelled my season tickets to 2 tracks and went from never missing a telecast to occasionally watching and haven't been to a race since. Won't even get started on TV start times, The Chase, Seg Racing, Drivers buying their seat, ect. ect. ect.
NASCAR is going to protect their franchise faces. Always have. I like Ty...
Dale needs to make a room dedicated to his dad and give his fans a P.O. Box to send in memorabilia for the room and just decorate the whole room with all of his collectibles, I have several new stuff in the box branded with his seniors signature
Vickers: "do I have a tire down?"
Norris: "sure, why not?"
After it ended those guys went to work for the Astro s. Lol
lol
Ask Rob Kaufman why he signs bowyer to a new deal when he had no plans to honor it.
He's not being accountable. It doesnt matter what Hendrick did, its about what you and your company did.
"I made a mistake. Take it in the jaw and move past it." - That sounds like being accountable to me. Pointing out other people were also doing the same thing is not the same as people who say "Its okay what I did because everyone else was doing it..." he's giving context to the situation for the story, he's not trying to justify what he did as the right thing to do.
No mention of the fact there was a $1 million bonus from NAPA if all 3 MWR cars made the chase? That was what upset the apple cart.
I still feel that others should have had to pay as well.
"Son, you're gonna be OK just move past it." Great advice...
It's so sad that only the year before in the same race Paul Menard purposely spun out to give Kevin Harvick the win. The radio conversation for Paul Menard made all of that crystal clear. No penalty. Not even a thought of it from NASCAR for a Chevy team.
Paul's nothing but a silver spoon whiney baby....... we here in WI cant stsnd his ass, he take all the money from the stores and pays the employees poorly, just to blow the money on nascar....... and he races WORSE than DANICA..........
@@jeffsmith8842 ,To say that Paul Menard races worse than Danica is idiotic at best.Although he was a mediocre driver,he never wrecked cars regularly like she did and he also won a Cup race(one of the crown jewel races,If my memory serves me correctly).
Ok, menard ain't no dale earnhardt or jeff gordon in terms of talent, no where near, but he was a decent driver and always took care of his equipment and hardly ever crashed out.
@@davidh1249 and you are correct. The 2011 brickyard 400
Ha I remember that too, seems like Gordon got the raw deal both times lol.
This is the only thing I watch pertaining to NASCAR. I haven't watched a race in almost 20 years.
Me too my friend. No races since Stewart retired.
Cool. Want a cookie?
I don't get why they all gave him the cold shoulder knowing everyone did it. Doesn't make sense. Its like the drunk that drove home and made it, getting mad at another drunk for getting busted driving. They both drove drunk , just one got caught.
Hendricks field an extra team one year and after the race started, pulled that car into the garage so Gordon could win the points championship? How is that different?
@@davidlittlefield7825 RCR did something similar. All Dale had to do was take the green flag to win the championship so they entered another car. If Dale's wouldn't start, he could jump in the other car.
Things like this have made NASCAR a total joke! Stage racing, car of tomorrow, etc, all bullshit! Get back to a time when the driver skill actually mattered!
Love this format and Dale Jr maybe only person to pull it off (maybe DW could do it too). Only sin Ty committed was 'saying it on the radio' LOL
That was a horrible explanation. There are people in padded rooms who manage to make more sense while arguing with themselves.
1st of all, I don’t dislike Jeff Gordon. When nascar created the 13th spot for him, I quit watching and will never watch again. I have seen so many times over the years the rules bent to fit their own agenda.
Cry cry and cry some more that your butt hurt
You're either a stand up guy or a snitch. The choice was made and that's how it works.
ESPN's Marty Smith and Ryan McGee -- during their NASCAR coverage and (now) with their SEC work -- really don't hide who have first call on feeding them info for a story.
The way the points are done now"playoff "crap has lost Nascar more fans than about anything
I thought using the rules to your advantage was how you win in any sport?
Yes. But spinning/crashing voluntarily is a bit beyond «using» the rules.
hugolafhugolaf Seems like strategy to me. I’m not saying I like it but I’ve noticed most all of pro sports sanctions want too much control.
The biggest thing that I said when that whole thing went down (Keep in mind I was a Gordon fan)
They should’ve knocked Bowyer and Truex out and out Newman and Gordon in and NOT added a 13th Chase position.
I don't get how Jr stays calm .... I have my dads temper ... Working on it ...
Hendrick did it a few weeks ago to balance out the points on their team. Larson had the race in the bag but had to give the win to Elliott. Larson still had more points overall but the team as a whole ended up with more.
Larson is a professional but if you listen to what he said post race, he was "doing it for the team"
TY is a badass i didnt know existed,all the while thinking i knew a lot about all the GM teams.
The point is completely lost in this conversation. Dale was so close to it, NASCAR lost it's last bit of legitimacy in making a spot up out of nowhere and then to fix the rapidly disappearing fan base that you've now shown your distance from, they implemented a point system that makes all the problems of before worse...they doubled down. I appreciate that ty is taking responsibility for his own actions but the problem is that NASCAR never has not never will take responsibility for theirs and it is undeniably killing the sport. Numbers don't lie
If only Brian Vickers had just shut the hell up and pit, but what's past is past.
this was big podcast to watch
So confused as to why this is sparking so many non NASCAR fans interest.
Ty I’d have done the same thing. You did you the thing that was best at that time for your team...
TY got screwed by NASCAR.
Last year ( I think at Phoenix ??)
JGR told the 20 Do Not Pass the 11. Nothing ever happened to them.
That's race manipulation !!!