Mercedes Maybach S 680: The end of an era?
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2024
- In driving one of the last V12 powered, non-hybrid cars on offer, MotoMan poses the question: Is the end of the line for the @MercedesBenz Maybach S 680? Then, from behind the wheel as well as the back seat, he presents the master class that is understated luxury in the @mbusa Maybach Manufaktur build of this specific Mercedes Maybach S680.
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Love the opening statement about history.... I'm a retired automotive engineer - from the age of 15. I'm now 68 and retired.
Today it's all about making a product as profitable as possible - rather than produce a quality product that people actually enjoy using.
Even Lexus?
@@nicolasmikah4168 Lexus make quality products. But sales figures (by age demographics) would suggest they are not the most dynamically desirable cars around.
Indeed, I'm looking at a RX500 (new model) as an outright purchase since retiring. I've always leased German brands while working. But their quality is certainly not as good as 10-20yrs ago.
Its called the relentless persuit of profit. And yes we no longer build to be the best. We build to MAKE the most money. Which i feel is a stain on our being. If we could only take away the relentless persuit of profit.
Oh come on, the cars of 30-40 years ago (even the nice ones) were absolute shitboxes to pretty much anything made today.
Really wish more cars went back to having less screens
You need a bigger screen to rotate the car also to view obstacles around it
Love your pushback. A certain publication that used to have a big CZcams channel has been condescendingly shoving their EV solution down everyone's throats for years now to the point that I've become borderline indifferent about cars. I digress.
I don't care if being overly-indulgent is frowned upon these days - the S680 is a romantic at heart. I just wish Mercedes still made the S Coupe. Anyone still defending the V12 is a hero in my book.
The number of V12s sold is minuscule so the regulators could give them a pass and it would be like a drop in the emissions bucket. I doubt manufacturers would rush to put 2.0 liter twelve cylinders into sports cars. S coupé with a v12 would be nice to see.
That is a beautiful car, and the Mercedes-Benz V12 motors are amazing and soo smooth and the way they deliver power is just something special!
Wow , what a beautiful car ❤
Hey, algorithm! We need more content like this 👍👍👍
Cześć Jarek! :)
Great works of art are often criticized. Then they are viewed in the future as priceless, this is one of those objects, the BEST of the BEST and not limited by man mad rules and regulations to make everyone happy with mediocracy! Fantastic show as always!!
Moto Man is amazing. His insights are right on point.
Monoblocks all day
Agree with you completely on the gauge issues, enough of the childish video game profiles.....Back with the analogs
$245K? It's a steal. Seriously. Yes, a version with bespoke gauges. Analogtur?
That's a lovely shade of blue, excellent work like always, M.
A great car, a great review and even better points Motoman. 👍
Just to let you know, the Straight Pipes fellas ran a billboard advertisement to promote their channel years ago. 👍 I liked and commented. 👌
Hey alogorithm, I like German car reviews from this channel. Keep them coming 😎
👍agree you 100%. IWC and/or just give me analogue gauges and switches/buttons, for the love of 🙏🏼 - for all cars/SUVs!
You have impeccable taste in cars MM! I agree with you on the screens. More bespoke analogue gauges in high end luxury vehicles like this one please. Long live the V12!
I like the customized Vans. Nicely done there.
The details you mention are of the utmost quality - no doubt. And V12 is a value in its own league. But all Mercedeses-turned-into-Maybachs lack the most important thing, I believe, the statement cars should have first and foremost: the uniqueness of style, originality, ingenuity, subtlety, finesse, etc.
PS
The Stutz Blackhawk had them all (save a bit of subtlety, maybe).
Mercedes tried that with the Maybach 57 and 62 and was rewarded with dismal acceptance.
@@H2SO4H20 Did you like their headlamps?
@@PrzemyslawSliwinski The headlamps on the Maybach 57/62? They reminded me of the headlamps on the W210 E-class. The Maybach 57/62 looked much too ostentatious even to S-class owners - even more so than the "Grand Mercedes" 600 of my youth.
Don't quite agree. A benefit of the Maybach S-class is that it can fly under the radar. Everyone sees a rolls or a Bentley, but in a Maybach you sit just as well without the attention. Let's say it's more focused on Europe.
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Veeeee12 goodness
Dying breed 😢
That MB vs Flying Spur !!
Great review and discussion but I forgot how much I miss the short duration of SoCal hill vegetation greening up after the winter rains.
CA in the spring is really beautiful! Unless you've got the hay fever! ACHOO!
You da man, baby!
What a beauty! Monoblock all the way....
Awesome Maybach!
Lovely interior, unfortunately, with an ipad stuck to the dash. Couldn't they at least give the digital cluster an elegant surround?
V12, Yes Please.
Good channel
Solid colors are way better looking. I like the rims on this one a lot more also.
This is amazing luxury limousine and yes it can be hybrid with V12 beast under the hood😊
Monotone looks sooooo much better.
IWC or VDO clocks( Tachometers, Speedometers etc) cost so much more and are harder to install well(flawlessly) which would make this Maybach cost as much as the Rollls Royce ! Bravo Great Video! Keep doing your great spot on comments!
What a wonderful car and yes it deserves beautiful mechanical instruments. The resell value will thank it. Regarding the openness to development and new technology - yes! Totally agreed - if the governments in the world limits pollution more and more is fine. But they should not limit it to electric only.
Sir, quick off-topic help here: I know you’re a watch lover too, would you mind letting us know the size of you pilot chrono? Looks awesome on you 😊
V12 YES.
Mercedes elegance
Have you mentioned the IWC gage idea to Mercedes people? Can you say whether that might happen?
but don't exotic cars also use 12 cyl and they are potent high reving engines?
if it's the m279, which was an amg engine, isn't it handmade anymore? And does is still NOT feature direct injection?
If I were in the market for a car like this. I agree I would prefer real gauges like in a Bentley or RR. all the screens make this feel like an iwatch instead of a patek or vacheron perpetual calendar. I would want a perpetual instead of a bunch of screens everywhere.
I have a car with a W12, and I also leave the door open when starting the engine. Nothing like the sound.
I am content with the E63 level. The GLS is my trip vehicle, my wagon is for and town and track if I had a track to go to.
As gorgeous as this car is, I could NOT live with these screens and I’m glad that you mentioned this at the end of the video.
As always, Great review. Love to see V8s and V12s. EVs are not cars. They are technology and in my humble opinion, dumb and waste of money.
Pretty sure it won't end in this decade or next, if the giant manufacture discontinue the v12, V10, and V8 many startup will born to serve the market who's still enjoying it.
That guy who said “End of an era” of an era on your post is going to flip when he sees the title
Electric Vehicles ultimately solve all of the issues with the Maybach and Rolls Royce.
#1 The electric motors create a dead silent ride - aside from government mandated noise makers to protect civilians.
#2 The electric motors create a shift-less, seamless transition from standstill to high speed to standstill.
#3 The longer floor of these cars provides more opportunity for battery capacity and thus longer ranges.
#4 These cars were already big and heavy: now they have an excuse to be bigger and heavier.
#5 No V12 means you get instant, peak-torque, excellent handling, electric steering, autonomous driving and HIGH FUEL EFFICIENCY more than 90 mpge. You also get higher reliability.
the W222 maybach was way more beautiful. S650 the best car ive ever driven
Make mine in aluminum
as an european I think he's one of those few americans that actually know about what they're driving and what really matters with the certain car.
Not just running after brain rot acceleration figures
Thanks for the review. Sadly this generation of the Maybach is just too similar to the S-Class and comes at a hefty premium over the S-Class. Even as a PHEV variant, it costs twice as much.
Mr MotoMan, a Maybach or a Mulsanne?
4:43 THEY think it’s broken
@motomantv I like the Mercedes s63 better than the Rolls-Royce
I hate all that shiny black
Gauges. Yep. Lean into what this car is instead of techbro world. This is a throwback car. So go all the way. Mercedes knows how to do this. They just aren't. Don't be lazy, merc.
I’d say add the 10° rear steering but lower the 12 cylinder displacement and offset the weight and power reduction with electric motor(s) that maintain the low end torque but bring to the table a carbon foot below some four cylinders. Yes a plug would help this cause but at least you’ll have the purr of the V12. 17:00
Welcome to Mercedes Benz. The best or nothing
The little screen screams mario kart
The only vehicles Mercedes gets right these days is the S class and G Class
My thinking about 12 cylinder engines is their place as “the point” of the expensive exotic car. Ain’t nobody really *need* that engine, but people want it. Its the desirability element. For these kind of cars how does desirability sustain if its got functionality the same powertrain as any other vehicle (EV) just with a bigger battery? The ethos gets a bit dashed
The engine is capable of nearly 1000 lb ft torque, but limited to max. 730 lb ft to save the gear box and differential from self destruction. This also a reason why there is no 9 speed or 4WD available for MB V12 cars - to much torque.
14:20 Then those guys need to ditch all the screens in that car. Think about it. Watch collectors don't collect Casios or Apple watches even tho they do time better plus more! They collect watches for their mechanical beauty. Car collectors do the same thing. So then why the hell do they insist on having a Best Buy TV screen center in the cabin? We want beautiful nobs and switches that feel fantastic to the touch. A set of bezzels and guauges made from the finest watch makers in all of Europe on a mountain top clock makers workshop...crap like that. Not some bs screen that will break, pixilate, delaminate, PICK ONE so you can no longer operate the A/C, temp, all gone cause that crap screen broke. I hate these screens.
16:30 OMG you said it!
MB S Class/Maybach make exquisite cars, however, the garish screens cheapen the asthetics of the interior. They've overloaded the car with unnecessary tech and screens. Why buy Maybach S680, when you can a S580 cheaper with the same interior
All very nice but can’t they do better than plasticky piano black on the center consoles (front and rear). I don’t know…like an open pore wood?!? A base C class has the same piano black…looks so cheap
Kim Jong un’s car!
Emissions emissions emissions. It’s all about emissions.
Suprisingly low max speed.
Not prepared for Autobahn.
FJB🎉
Mercedes still makes incredible cars. Cars like this are keeping some credibility of quality to the brand. The EVs look terrible and their quality on the lower end models is not like the old days.
Mercedes Please, please get rid of the tablets and go back putting the screen back in the dashboard.🙏
I don’t think its a big deal that V12’s are being phased out by automakers, as for at least the last 15 years, they have been inaccessible to almost all driving enthusiasts. The only people losing out are wealthy business people and celebrities, who probably won’t notice the different between a v8 and v12, or even a hybridised v6, both of which are more than powerful enough for normal use. The stricter emissions requirements responsible for the end of the V12 have also been brought on by cheating and dirty tactics of the manufacturers, very clearly evident in the dieselgate scandal, proving automakers need to be kept in check.
Other than easier to breathe and not a million degrees, yeah much less pleasant. What a dope.
That´s a wonderful car although i think it´s in the high end of what anybody would pay for an Sclass.... i mean, Maybach.
Your last statement about future of mobility.... in my eyes it´s all about energy availability and possible solutions. They want only electric because it´s the most simple solution in many ways but development and engineers are quite stubborn so i can imagine a future with various technology solutions being inevitable. Right now we are seeing it with the evolution of the EV car market which seems to be in a hard spot. China is overflooded completely with brands and vehicles and the industry will canibalize itself to the point of engding up in 3 to 5 major groups just as it has happened in Europe and USA. The issue is getting into the mind of the average consumer which cares about the basics. Doing that with a vehicle that gives you less versatility, higher depreciation and higher cost of purchase doesn´t make sense and that´s why most people are going to keep their cars way longer or buy hybrids instead. Toyota it´s already years talking about this point but politicians being politicians still think that they know better than anybody else. Again, in my view we are going straight to a multi-solution future without a doubt and it´s the best that can happen just so people in power don´t adquire too much power into our lives. The more solutions, the better.
Oh and i have the feeling that in 5 to 10 years synthetic oils / biofuels / hydrogen / etc... will start to be a real option because the "only BEV" solution has way too many hurdles to function for everybody. Either that or we go straight to a dictatorship that doesn´t allow private transport and we end up in a society like the 1850´s in no time.... time to start buying horses i guess.
The W222 was so elegant and beautiful. what went wrong why they came up with such an ugly thing..
I'd never end up with something like this in 10 lifetimes however, I love this kind of content! ETA: The 'dash' in this thing is hideous. Crappy flat screens that look like an afterthought, super high gloss reflective/dust-showing. Manufacturers really need to quit being given a pass on sticking iPads where nice things used to be.
How can Mercedes still make a v12 ...when everyone else is going 4 TT/Hyrbrids due to CAFE?
MB sells very few V12s. CAFE is an average. The hybrids and electrics help offset the V12.
If you have to drive your own Maybach, it means you really can't afford it.
Kim k drives her maybach.
Perhaps it would worth to comment on cartel of premium German manufacturers that gave us dieselgate. They clearly were doing their best to circumvent mandates of higher efficiency. Perhaps government mandates are needed to keep these behemoths honest to their “progress”…
The built quality is terrible for ALL NEW MERCEDES! THEY RATTLE MORE THAN ANY ECONOMY CAR OUT THERE! THE DESIGN IS GOOD THE LEATHER IS GOOD JUST NOT BOLTED TOGETHER LIKE OLDER MERCEDES EVEN 10 YEARS AGO
Garish ambient lighting and screens make it look cheap. Gloss black looks dirty and scratched. Seats look wonderful.
I still dont understand why people call it “progressive”. Fascism was progressive and thats not where we wanna be.
Marxist crap not progressive....
Shhhhh
Progressive does not mean facism. You are taking it out of context. Anything revolutionary or differentiating can be progressive.
@@phillm156 Out of context is just cope
In 2024, progressive = authoritarian
BMW and Mercedes dash treatments look crappy and cheap now
@@furry_homunculusconceptually ..i dont mind screens so much. The way BMW and Mercedes have executed looks like they tacked them on with double sided tape. As another commenter said..at least house them in some sort of surround.
Maybach died in 2012, a retrimmed S class is not a true Maybach
The review of the Tesla Model 3 was terrible.
What utter nonsense. This car, being from the very progressive nation of Germany in the very progressive continent/organization of the EU, should be wind, coal, and solar powered, too.
Mercedes makes the best V12's because because nobody made more of them. They are the most reliable V12's and the aftermarket equivalent of a small block Chevy in V12 land with performance specialists like RennTech leading the way. 0-60 is only the beginning of MB V12's performance. After 100mph is where they really stretch out past the V8's and EV's. All hand crafted with the surreal smoothness to balance a coin on top. So coveted that the elite V12 AMG's are already appreciating. 🪙