I understand your conception. Certain things change I would recommend losing the 16 oz gloves for sparring and pick up the 10's maybe 8's also in an outside altercation when/if blocking open the hands and palm your scalp easier to take punches to the hands that way. Boxing though teaches you amazing distance perception which is key in striking.
For me, I just never liked being punched in the face, as Sugar Ray Leonard once said. But then, that's inevitable in boxing.I agree with something that Jocko once said, something to the effect that every able-bodied man should be able to defend himself. But yeah, boxing is great and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn how to fight and how to defend themselves. And then they can later get into stuff like Muay Thai, MMA, wrestling, etc.
That last fight my Grandpa got into in was at a bar when he was 65. It went like this. "What are you gonna do it about GranP-" CRACK! - 3 punches and the guy was on his back. GrandPa's advice, "always get the first punch."
In every day situations being able to strike effectively with your hands is extremely practical. Given the quickness of incapacitating someone, and the limited space it takes to execute, ie. Bars crowded places. Also it can happen quickly unlike jujitsu, where you may be struck with objects, or shot while engaging.
Definitively. I suggest for most to have some striking base and at the very least know how to defend yourself on the ground. I don’t think being on the ground is a very good idea in the typical context of a fight.
Yeah and being on the ground at all in a street fight at least for me would be terrible. You can’t run away quick if 2-3 guys team on you and if two guys dive on you then FCK
The best training is when you get to spar/train as close to 100% with a resisting partner without getting hurt. This best simulates a "real" situation. This is why wrestling/bjj/boxing/kickboxing works.
Only problem with training close to or at 100% is like gym injuries. Can't do much training if you miss a kick and your heel decides to have brunch with your calf lmao
A striking art and a grappling art, really need both, and Jocko gets that, which is really great. For me, Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Judo and Krav Maga are the go-to martial arts for self-defence. Only problem is that with Krav Maga there are some really great schools that teach it, and some really, really bad places that give it a bad reputation- there's a lot of inconsistency between clubs because it's not well regulated and there is no competitive side to KM which means it's hard to judge the standard if you're coming in as completely new to martial arts training. I did Boxing and Jiu Jitsu for a few years and Krav Maga for nearly four years based on a syllabus co-designed by Itay Gil, and there are some good principles that I learned there that to say they are invaluable in a street self-defence situation is an understatement, like reading body language and assessing situations before and after a fight and procedures for both, understanding the effects of adrenal stress on the mind and body, covering what the law actually says about self-defence, and analysing CCTV footage of street violence which was really insightful. I never learned those things in any of the other styles I trained, even though I respect those arts highly. Having Boxing, Jui Jitsu, Muay Thai and Wrestling, etc, will make your Krav Maga second to none. Having done several styles and seeing the value in all of them, on the proviso that it's a good school, I'd recommend for women looking to train specifically for self-defence that they train Krav Maga for a year or two intensively FIRST (something similar to Ryan Hoovers Fit To Fight syllabus in the US looks trustworthy), and then BJJ and Muay Thai after that.
@Kings& One I’ve trained several years in Jiu Jitsu, Boxing and Muay Thai, as well as Krav Maga under a syllabus co-designed by Itay Gil. That means I’ve seen things from the perspective of combat sports and training methods that are survival specific. I under stand that probably means very little to you. If you train let’s say MMA but with a twist: you train only techniques illegal in MMA rules and to target illegal body parts such as attacking the trachea, base of the back of the skull with hammer fist strikes, horizontal and 12-6 elbow strikes to the base of the back of the skull, eye rakes and groin strikes, and nothing else, how often are you going to be able to employ those targets and techniques in Bellator, K1, Pride or UFC? That’s part of what KM is. The parts of the body it trains to attack. That’s its first resort. That’s obviously a rhetorical question. You will never be able to bring that approach to an organised MMA fight. Why do you never see KM fighters in the UFC? There’s one answer. More to come. I’m heading in to work.
When someone says "Yeah, I grew up getting in a lot of street fights" you have to wonder if the person had to deal with street bullies or if they were purposely out looking for violence.
I’m years late on seeing this but my son and I train Jiu Jitsu and I was just telling my wife we need to integrate boxing next. Even if it’s once a week, I think boxing is the direction to go first. Then kickboxing or Muay Thai. Thanks for the advice, gentlemen.
This is going to sound cheesy but I noticed that the first scene in the movie Rocky, it doesn't show Rocky in the gym training by himself with dreams of fighting, it shows him in the ring taking hits and pressure. That kind of sums up that he was ready to contend when he got the opportunity.
Moved around a lot as a, fighting always followed. Luckily my dad is an awesome guy and got me in the martial arts when I was very young, trained on and off until adulthood. Combination of street fights and training really gave me an unfair advantage against majority of people that I fought. Jocko is 100% correct about a street fighters aggression, been like that ever since I can remember. The day my daughter was born changed my life, and my mindset.
Lol. I was taught from kindergarten under Shaolin tutelage, in a horse stance for hours upon hours on end learning the correct delivery of a punch. All punches are not the same. However, learning how to “sit” on a punch or punch through the target makes for a hard hitter. As a trained fighter one should always try to deescalate a violent situation. But when it’s clear there is no way out other than violence, then words are done. End it. This has always worked for me.
That's what Firas says too. He said anyone getting into mma should learn BJJ first because it's fun. After that comes boxing because it's easy. After that comes Muay Thai. Finally, wrestling because wrestling is the hardest and not many people enjoy it.
@@insaneguy1197 Because you learn take downs in bjj. You can also apply ground skill principles to stand up. So you have an advantage over an untrained man. Every school teaches them differently. For example, 1 place I trained at taught a take down at the beginning of the majority of classes. Another place taught it every now and then, a random here and there. Another place I trained at went by weeks, so 1 week will be dedicated to take downs. Another week dedicated to passing. So on and so forth but every place I trained at did teach take downs. It's just that bjj guys aren't nearly as good at them as wrestlers but we are still levels above untrained guys.
So true. I actually got in a lot of street fights and when you fight someone who is trained, it usually is NOT good. I’m not about that life anymore but yeah...
If you only had one martial art, Muay Thai is a pretty fair “all around” martial art. It gives you A LOT of striking, standing grappling, and ‘takedowns’. No ground game but it gives you A LOT.
@@ajmjl9102 Muay Thai striking is above Karate. You can see that in MMA. Full contact Karate is still a a great striking art to train though. Bot saying it isn't
@@uhtredofbebbanburg5493 not necessarily it's seen as better bc it's had more champions and elite fighters with it but take style for style in equal people pure MT vs pure karate karate wins Muay Thai punches aren't too extensive without boxing that most Thai fighters cross train in and less kicks less focus on timing and counter striking although they do have clinch better I mean just look at old school k1 when the first generation of Thai fighters fought kyokushin karatekas they lost (look up Andy hug)
The best thing to do, is practice with sparring. Knowing your distance that your body can feel that "safe" zone, working on your footwork, head movements, reflexes, counter etc.
Listened to jocko for about 6mths now but 1st time watching on CZcams. Wow echo is a unit!! On the podcast he sounds like a 19yr skinny spotty kid lol Keep up the good work guys
Kyokushin karate and boxing are better combination,hardcore body conditioning,bareknuckle fighting and vicious low kicks in kyokushin combined with head punches,footwork,head movement and speed from boxing,belive me you will become a tank.
@@cesarrosales7793 go for Muay Thai o kick boxing, kick boxing Is the combination from box AND karate kicks, at leats on full contact, It s different on American kick boxing
As a former UDT/Seal Bud/s class 96, and Players choice Independent All american Linebacker I often wonder the modern day's MMA's approach in conjunction with Navy Seals such as both yourselves great, admired and honored athletes and soldiers to understand your perspectives on "why fight as a sport" and why kill as a sport.. Personally I detest violence however. my question is why fight overall if you do not want to or have kill the enemy. . .Please forgive my run on sentences...I am in Germany as an expat US.
I hate the sanda competition rules, but I have to say Sanda is probably the best for self defense in the street and at the same time very effective in the ring
I agree. I suppose it's levels. Guy with good live striking training, ie. boxing or muay thai, beats both the guy with no training and the guy with just good karate techniques. However, a guy with live striking *and* good karate becomes very, very awkward for anyone. And that's what has emerged in the UFC. This is especially true for rangy body types which don't have huge power. However, the guy with just karate against the aggressive guy with no training - the karate guy is in the worst possible situation: unprepared, overconfident. It's ugly. I say this as a lanky former karate guy (10 years) who has started BJJ / MMA (beginner).
Hey jock... i mean Jocko. I would love to meet you asap. Are you ever doing a meet and greet in the Kansas, Colorado, or Missouri area? Because id love to meet you ask some short questions and go on about my day.
@Jocko Podcast thank you for the consistent podcasts and such, my goal is to be a navy seal. Do you have any tips on how I could be most effective getting into this?
Get in shape and don't quit. You're going to be wet, cold, covered in sand, tired, hungry, in pain, and expected to accomplish certain tasks within a limited timeframe. Learn to enjoy these things.
That kind of depends on your time frame... If... for instance... You're arriving at this aspiration as a freshman in high school or college, then you've probably got at least a couple years. Take stock of yourself, and yes... get in shape... THEN start testing your metal. Do (or try to do) stuff you haven't ever thought you'd be able to do... PUSH to your limits, and then keep going... get started now in the "do not give up" mindset... Doing it now, when "quitting" isn't going to cause you trouble... so if you're ever actually in "life threatening" danger, you CAN call it off and take stock again... Learn from where it went "sideways". The major part of Seal training is about making you give up. Ring the bell and quit... That's where you fail at becoming a Seal... AND "absolute faith" is a hell of a thing. You don't need to do anything reckless either. If you're not going to get permissions or the time-off to go out and try "roughing it" for incrementally longer periods of time, then you can go to the gym and push more rep's out every time... OR swim more laps every time... If there's such equipment, take on the climbing wall exercise for more distance... whatever it takes... BUT the idea is to go further than you thought you could... Whatever record you get the first time, out... break it. Don't forget, while you're still "looking forward" to this thing... Let yourself recover between these tests. Obviously, you can't just go back to the same test in a day and expect to do better... BUT it needs pointed out, because constant bombardment of injury, weakness, fatigue, etc... stresses... will tear you down more than build you up. The more you can push yourself now, the easier it can be to push through later in the training... A lot of people give up early, because they've never been tested like that... A lot of people get to bootcamp... just plain old bootcamp, and do really STUPID sh*t because they've never worked that hard under that kind of stress either... It's only training, and it's fine to fall short in training, and just DO NOT GIVE UP. NOW... the harder part. Up front, I was "in" back in the 90's... SO there's a chance it has changed... probably not by much. Personnel evaluations count for or against you trying to get to Seal Training. When I was in, you had to have perfect 4.0+ eval's... The plus, there, indicates that even while the actual evaluations state they are on a 4-point rating system, there's a mythical kind of extra-points... You best be earning those. It's that extra mile, the exceptional attitude, and never hinting that you don't actually WANT to be there, doing the job. Maintaining the uniform is also part of it... (and good luck if you're enlisted)... AND technical knowledge and advancing in that knowledge for your M.O.S. even before you get into the Seals, because (practically speaking) NOBODY EVER signs right up into the Seal-team program off the street. I could recommend getting through college, so you can go officer, and join the ROTC program to start your quest. At least, if you're a little bit lucky, you can find others who may share your mindset. BUT the double edge to that sword carries the chance of "bad influences" and however innocently you get with buddies who want to be Seals, too... One can start that cycle of "one-up-manship" that invariably ends up with someone injured, hospitalized, or killed. Finally, aspire... It's fine to aspire to your highest and noblest intentions. Forgive yourself, though. Not everything goes according to plan, and you most often DON'T get it right the first time "out of the gate". Every night, you'll need to forgive your shortcomings. After all, you are only human and can only deal with so much. Apologize for where you know you've come up short... Forgive that of yourself. THEN make a promise to yourself that you'll try to do a little better tomorrow... Do that every night, and you can get through just about anything. ...unless it kills you of course... ...in which case, it's no longer your problem be default. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 thank you so much for taking the time to help me and thank you for all the advice, ive been looking for colleges in my area with Rotc for the navy. Ive heard mixed things about being able to chose to go to buds if your an officer after college, is that how it works or do you need to be selected
@@davidkanouse9873 It's a bit of both, honestly... The Seals want the top less than 1%... SO everyone has a hard time even being accepted. Everything counts for or against you. Officers, are going to have a certain level of advantage, but they do require enlisted too... Eval's are often a "hair splitting" line they go by... BUT there are other factors. You can also build your reputation (which will help) while you're still in ROTC and school. Along with working hard on becoming the best you can, keeping your nose clean is paramount. It's about like any other "prestigious" duty or station. There are lots more applicants than they can possibly accept. It's worth saying somewhere, that you CAN just flat out choose your M.O.S., and you can try to get into Buds... BUT if/when you get into the service, you're better advised to make the best of where you are, and what you're doing. You may be there a while before you get accepted to Buds. Most guys are. Taking on extra certifications and education is also worth going after. Some of those "duties" are worthy of letters from your superiors and even Captain's and Admiral's letters, which add some of those "bonus points" to your personnel eval's. Good luck! ;o)
I'm a retired professional boxer (formally ranked in supermiddleweight). Boxing is the best to get started with for the reasons given by Jocko and then progress to other martial arts. There are no shortcuts when I say that fitness is a huge part of the game and the fitter you are the better your chances are of surviving. There's a reason why it is called "Survival of the fittest". Your own personal conditioning/fitness is key to any success. Your fitness is key in 4 ways: 1) The adrenalin (fight or flight) of a fight usually results in fighters 'gassing out' after 30 seconds in a street fight, so therefore you need fitness to see you past that initial burst. 2) Your personal fitness (running/rucking etc) helps develop your mental strength to endure challenges you dislike immensely and will enable you to break past the barrier of fragility we all feel. 3) In a real fight (street fight) it will often go to the ground and you need fitness to keep a cool head and to think clearly about what is coming and what you need to do next. 4) Running develops the strength in your legs and as a fight progresses you become weary (especially after round 6). Running helps you maintain your balance and keeps up your ability to absorb impact...and to keep your bloody chin covered!!! My personal advice for the best cardio exercises for fighting are running, hiking/rucking (weighted) and skipping.
Well in what context? Competition or self-defense? I would agree that boxing is a good art in general to start. However for self-defense I would say I like old school hand strike heavy Karate like Goju-Ryu.
I do Kyokushin Karate (full contact), Muay Thai and Boxing. Adding Karate or Another traditional Martial art such as Taekwon or Kung Fu to kickboxing will make you a better striker.
The bit about live fire practice at the end made me think of the scene in Moneyball where Jonah Hill is asked to practice firing someone and Brad Pitt, in the role of the player being fired, begins freaking out and accusing him of destroying his life. It makes sense that if you haven't actually pressure-tested yourself that you don't actually know how you'll do in a real life situation.
the way I understand it, in sports and fighting, the reality of 'the field' is hugely about reading your opponents body language and as everybody has slightly different body language this is incredibly hard to learn and isn't helped by mechanics
I like boxing but I’m not the best at it, I can take hits all day and be fine and every now and then land some good hits but my biggest problem is I’m a short, stocky guy with some short ass arms. I get punched and I have to reach like 6inches closer to hit someone, so that’s why I always loved wrestling. I’ll stand up at first in a fight, get close take a few hits and take you to the ground and use my tree trunk legs to lock them down then go for a choke hold
Yeah, boxing and muay thai is pretty good. The average person will only train once or twice a week and have lives. Also most people are not athletic. Just boxing is already alot. It's like being a heart specialist compared to a generalist. You focus on certain subjects but it's still hard to learn. If the average threat is a street punk who flails punches it's enough. Muay thai could be next if you want to be well rounded but you're probably not going to catch kicks. Also the thing about street fighters is not wrong. Alot of boxers used to be and they had a easier time training because they were used to being punched. Others we're thrown aside because trainers didn't have patience for the more nervous type. That's coming from a trainer.
well there are actual "street fighters" (streetbeefs etc) - people who do actually start a one on one fight. Just on a street. Sucker punching and aggression is not really a fight in same way ring fight is Ring fight is a game. Street aggression is a broader game of mindset, status, pack instinct etc
ridiculous. violent thugs carry weapons and fight in groups. they aer not skilled at hand to hand except for body slams. everyone from the any rough neighborhood knows that.
Wow... drilling has been helping me immensely on certain things I'm involved in, such as jujitsu, video gaming etc.... But Jocko is arguing against it to some extent. Maybe it depends on how closely the drill mimics reality that determines its effectiveness. The drills i do to help in Apex Legends, for instance, have improved my game immensely. But i guess I'm also doing the real thing right afterwards.
Exactly, drilling is really great but if you don’t test it then you won’t really improve. I’m learning about how testing yourself is one of the best forms of studying in my study skills class and I’m using that to improve my bjj
I’ve been listening to jockos podcast for 3+ years and this whole time I thought echo was some nerd that had a lot of knowledge( his voice )… didn’t know he was some jacked beef cake 😳🤣🤣🤣
Every one has a plan till they get punxhed in the face- Tyson. Yall hit the head of the nail with that.... Get uaed to getring punched and used to punching someone
@@Mishkola yeah its been a good life...thanks for the comment..let me know if you are in ft. Lauderdale and we can exchange techniques...actually i believe Jocko has a gym not far away...im not in as good of shape as id like but it will be interesting
You're going to get a bias opinion from me. Former competitive Boxer here (always a boxer). I was fascinated with fighting from a young age. I technically started boxing in Middle School when I was 13 yrs. old. Wasn't serious with it yet though. At 14 I made the Wrestling team in highschool (having never wrestled before) I was in love with it. I was a Freshman destroying seniors who had been wrestling since they were kids. I just had a talent for it. I started by getting my face planted in the mat, yet I always knew that I was better than the guys smashing my face (from my team). Eventually within that first year from when I started, I was beating all of them. Fast forward, I got kicked off the wrestling team for bad grades and bad behavior. I was crushed. Then, I found a boxing gym and fell in love all over again. But this time it was different. It was like something I had never experienced before. I spent hours upon hours training in the gym. Yes, I will say I was a natural.. but that meant nothing. I had to practice just like everyone else. I had to overcome pain. and I did well in Golden Gloves -- almost went to the Olympic Trials but I opted out to go serve a proselyting mission for my Church. As a kid I remember sometimes their would be tough guys coming in to fight me. I even had a couple of special forces guys step in the ring with me (when I was a teenager). They weren't jerks though, they were actually super cool. A couple of them always tried to get me to join the military. My point is this: A solid boxer is dangerous. There is soooo much technique that goes into a simple jab. Most people don't realize that. If you break it down into a formula: Technique = Speed. Speed = Power. If you don't have the proper technique, you are cutting yourself short in a MAJOR way. My beef with most MMA guys is: they don't know how to hit right. AND... they don't know how to get hit. Nobody wants to get hit -- Nor should you. It's dangerous. However, I found that I had to build a tolerance to getting hit in the face. I try not to get hit in the head/face -- but if I do, it doesn't phase me the way it would to someone who doesn't have enough experience getting hit in the face. Street fights don't give you that experience in my opinion. Only by sparring, fighting, constantly putting yourself in a position of getting hit by trained fighters. Anyways.. that's my two cents. Don't discount boxing's efficiency in a combat situation. I'm still a good wrestler (I know it's very different from jiu jitsu, which I don't have experience in) but you put me on the floor and try to hit me down there. You will lose. Your best odds are to submit me quickly -- which is doable. But if I hit you first, it's going to be very hard. I'm not going to hit you like you've ever been hit before... and I may not be a jiu jitsu fighter, but I'm not bad on the ground either.
The mindset is something that pretty much all martial arts don't address. Geoff Thompson from the UK was probably the first serious pioneer of the mindset in street fights.
"Howdy neighbor how's it goi-" *CRACK
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"I thought it might be nice if I made you some cookies since you just mov-" CRACK!
“hey man you got the time by any cha-“ CRACK
"Hey man, I just started learning boxin-" CRACK!
THANOS "I am inevitab-"
Iron man " CRACK!!"
Boxing is great. The only thing I don't like about boxing is the huge gloves, and how they give you a false sense of defense.
Have u ever even watched a professional boxing fight? Cuz the gloves aint much bigger than mma gloves
I understand your conception. Certain things change I would recommend losing the 16 oz gloves for sparring and pick up the 10's maybe 8's also in an outside altercation when/if blocking open the hands and palm your scalp easier to take punches to the hands that way. Boxing though teaches you amazing distance perception which is key in striking.
@@dancook5057 It sure does! If you looked at my sparring videos you can see the smaller UFC bag gloves that I use to train with.
Even with those big ass gloves people get bamboozled. They don't help very much
For me, I just never liked being punched in the face, as Sugar Ray Leonard once said. But then, that's inevitable in boxing.I agree with something that Jocko once said, something to the effect that every able-bodied man should be able to defend himself. But yeah, boxing is great and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn how to fight and how to defend themselves. And then they can later get into stuff like Muay Thai, MMA, wrestling, etc.
"Hey what's your CRACK !"
3:43 crack. Don't laugh.
You cannot Choose your (BioLogical) Parents
@@TheRISINGSTAR35 Already did
That last fight my Grandpa got into in was at a bar when he was 65. It went like this.
"What are you gonna do it about GranP-" CRACK! - 3 punches and the guy was on his back. GrandPa's advice, "always get the first punch."
In every day situations being able to strike effectively with your hands is extremely practical. Given the quickness of incapacitating someone, and the limited space it takes to execute, ie. Bars crowded places. Also it can happen quickly unlike jujitsu, where you may be struck with objects, or shot while engaging.
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Definitively. I suggest for most to have some striking base and at the very least know how to defend yourself on the ground. I don’t think being on the ground is a very good idea in the typical context of a fight.
Yeah and being on the ground at all in a street fight at least for me would be terrible. You can’t run away quick if 2-3 guys team on you and if two guys dive on you then FCK
Would wrestling be fast enough to incapacitate someone without getting stomped by another guy,
@@frankslaiter5188 we’ll if you think about some of the slams a wrestler can pull and stuff I’d say yeah
Ask Diego Sanchez' coach, he is the master in this area.
I almost became that coach’s stepbrother.
Krav maga, Bare knuckle boxing, Savate, Muay Boaran, Lethwei
lol, that guy fabia, that's the definition of delusion. It's like they're dating, strange.
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@@brettthewilder2338 what??
The best training is when you get to spar/train as close to 100% with a resisting partner without getting hurt. This best simulates a "real" situation. This is why wrestling/bjj/boxing/kickboxing works.
Only problem with training close to or at 100% is like gym injuries. Can't do much training if you miss a kick and your heel decides to have brunch with your calf lmao
@Nick Karras This can easily be summarized spar as hard as you possibly can while still limiting yourself to injuries you can sustain and overcome.
@Nick Karras It helps to define what training smart means.
@Nick Karras is it true that judo have better concept for safe sparring training?
You didn’t add the best striking martial art in there my guy
A striking art and a grappling art, really need both, and Jocko gets that, which is really great. For me, Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Judo and Krav Maga are the go-to martial arts for self-defence. Only problem is that with Krav Maga there are some really great schools that teach it, and some really, really bad places that give it a bad reputation- there's a lot of inconsistency between clubs because it's not well regulated and there is no competitive side to KM which means it's hard to judge the standard if you're coming in as completely new to martial arts training. I did Boxing and Jiu Jitsu for a few years and Krav Maga for nearly four years based on a syllabus co-designed by Itay Gil, and there are some good principles that I learned there that to say they are invaluable in a street self-defence situation is an understatement, like reading body language and assessing situations before and after a fight and procedures for both, understanding the effects of adrenal stress on the mind and body, covering what the law actually says about self-defence, and analysing CCTV footage of street violence which was really insightful.
I never learned those things in any of the other styles I trained, even though I respect those arts highly. Having Boxing, Jui Jitsu, Muay Thai and Wrestling, etc, will make your Krav Maga second to none. Having done several styles and seeing the value in all of them, on the proviso that it's a good school, I'd recommend for women looking to train specifically for self-defence that they train Krav Maga for a year or two intensively FIRST (something similar to Ryan Hoovers Fit To Fight syllabus in the US looks trustworthy), and then BJJ and Muay Thai after that.
@Kings& One When did you train KM and under which organisation?
@Kings& One I’ve trained several years in Jiu Jitsu, Boxing and Muay Thai, as well as Krav Maga under a syllabus co-designed by Itay Gil. That means I’ve seen things from the perspective of combat sports and training methods that are survival specific. I under stand that probably means very little to you. If you train let’s say MMA but with a twist: you train only techniques illegal in MMA rules and to target illegal body parts such as attacking the trachea, base of the back of the skull with hammer fist strikes, horizontal and 12-6 elbow strikes to the base of the back of the skull, eye rakes and groin strikes, and nothing else, how often are you going to be able to employ those targets and techniques in Bellator, K1, Pride or UFC? That’s part of what KM is. The parts of the body it trains to attack. That’s its first resort.
That’s obviously a rhetorical question. You will never be able to bring that approach to an organised MMA fight. Why do you never see KM fighters in the UFC? There’s one answer. More to come. I’m heading in to work.
sambo too
@@AC-mp7cx Agreed. Sambo is excellent.
For women, bjj and having a weapon are best defenses. Let’s face it, if a fully grown man wants to hurt them, biology takes over
Violence of action, plain and simple. Come in hard come in fast
Lol
"Muricas warfare" - Godfather hisself
Come all over the other guy’s face
Michael Scott: (snickering)...THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID, BAHAHAHAHA!
Your poor wife.
When someone says "Yeah, I grew up getting in a lot of street fights" you have to wonder if the person had to deal with street bullies or if they were purposely out looking for violence.
It starts with one and leads to the other. Puberty is wild.
Boxing is the most effective fundamentals you can learn to defend yourself.
I’m years late on seeing this but my son and I train Jiu Jitsu and I was just telling my wife we need to integrate boxing next. Even if it’s once a week, I think boxing is the direction to go first. Then kickboxing or Muay Thai. Thanks for the advice, gentlemen.
This is going to sound cheesy but I noticed that the first scene in the movie Rocky, it doesn't show Rocky in the gym training by himself with dreams of fighting, it shows him in the ring taking hits and pressure. That kind of sums up that he was ready to contend when he got the opportunity.
Told me what I already knew but it was nice to hear nonetheless.
Fist to soft areas (mid section), open palm strikes to hard areas (face) so you don't wreck your knuckles.
Then ass to mouth...
Moved around a lot as a, fighting always followed. Luckily my dad is an awesome guy and got me in the martial arts when I was very young, trained on and off until adulthood. Combination of street fights and training really gave me an unfair advantage against majority of people that I fought. Jocko is 100% correct about a street fighters aggression, been like that ever since I can remember. The day my daughter was born changed my life, and my mindset.
Who?
Abbiejean out here changin things
Distance is big when it comes to striking. It takes time to realize when you're in danger and when you're not if you're not used to striking.
Power of first strike is obviously a real thing
Lol. I was taught from kindergarten under Shaolin tutelage, in a horse stance for hours upon hours on end learning the correct delivery of a punch. All punches are not the same. However, learning how to “sit” on a punch or punch through the target makes for a hard hitter. As a trained fighter one should always try to deescalate a violent situation. But when it’s clear there is no way out other than violence, then words are done. End it.
This has always worked for me.
Rex Kwon Do is the best
FUHGEHDABOUTIT!
Can confirm
Break the wrist, walk away
That's what Firas says too. He said anyone getting into mma should learn BJJ first because it's fun. After that comes boxing because it's easy. After that comes Muay Thai. Finally, wrestling because wrestling is the hardest and not many people enjoy it.
Im at the wrestling phase....... gods sake. Why is it so difficult.... did Firas really say that.
How would i be able to take someone down and use my bjj skills, if i learn wrestling last
@@insaneguy1197 Because you learn take downs in bjj. You can also apply ground skill principles to stand up. So you have an advantage over an untrained man.
Every school teaches them differently. For example, 1 place I trained at taught a take down at the beginning of the majority of classes. Another place taught it every now and then, a random here and there. Another place I trained at went by weeks, so 1 week will be dedicated to take downs. Another week dedicated to passing. So on and so forth but every place I trained at did teach take downs. It's just that bjj guys aren't nearly as good at them as wrestlers but we are still levels above untrained guys.
So true. I actually got in a lot of street fights and when you fight someone who is trained, it usually is NOT good. I’m not about that life anymore but yeah...
If Jocko EVERRRR wants to attend a ringside boxing mega event and get backstage - I got you 💯🥊
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You should work for CNN
He said it at the beginning so you can click off whenever you want
Just trying to be funny! Must've failed. A very good video imo
Tyler thank you
If you only had one martial art, Muay Thai is a pretty fair “all around” martial art. It gives you A LOT of striking, standing grappling, and ‘takedowns’. No ground game but it gives you A LOT.
I'd say karate after that in 2nd place or maybe even first bc of the focus on grappling is more and more advanced
@@ajmjl9102 But the striking is very inferior to MT. Its kicks aren't as applicable and effective as MT, and has much worse punches
@@uhtredofbebbanburg5493 not really if we are talking full contact styles then no
@@ajmjl9102 Muay Thai striking is above Karate. You can see that in MMA. Full contact Karate is still a a great striking art to train though. Bot saying it isn't
@@uhtredofbebbanburg5493 not necessarily it's seen as better bc it's had more champions and elite fighters with it but take style for style in equal people pure MT vs pure karate karate wins Muay Thai punches aren't too extensive without boxing that most Thai fighters cross train in and less kicks less focus on timing and counter striking although they do have clinch better I mean just look at old school k1 when the first generation of Thai fighters fought kyokushin karatekas they lost (look up Andy hug)
Good video Jocko!
The best thing to do, is practice with sparring. Knowing your distance that your body can feel that "safe" zone, working on your footwork, head movements, reflexes, counter etc.
Boxing is the way hundred percent agree
Hi ....A blow before a throw....thanks for posting this video....very interesting thanks for posting, best regards Stefano.....
Listened to jocko for about 6mths now but 1st time watching on CZcams. Wow echo is a unit!! On the podcast he sounds like a 19yr skinny spotty kid lol
Keep up the good work guys
He's got that Mike Tyson way of deceiving how badass he is.
Kyokushin karate and boxing are better combination,hardcore body conditioning,bareknuckle fighting and vicious low kicks in kyokushin combined with head punches,footwork,head movement and speed from boxing,belive me you will become a tank.
What If no kyokushin near me I live in bakersfield ca.?
@@cesarrosales7793 go for Muay Thai o kick boxing, kick boxing Is the combination from box AND karate kicks, at leats on full contact, It s different on American kick boxing
Good left hook and 50 yard dash.
Got lots of time for Uncle Jocko!
exactly right about the street fighting mindset is the main thing nothing really technical
Crack is a drug...imagine a crack addict crack cracking...
3:43 crack. Don't laugh.
Sanshou/sanda(kick boxing with takedowns and throws) is also good
You striking period
Boxing. Muay Thai. Couldn't agree more..
As a former UDT/Seal Bud/s class 96, and Players choice Independent All american Linebacker I often wonder the modern day's MMA's approach in conjunction with Navy Seals such as both yourselves great, admired and honored athletes and soldiers to understand your perspectives on "why fight as a sport" and why kill as a sport.. Personally I detest violence however. my question is why fight overall if you do not want to or have kill the enemy. . .Please forgive my run on sentences...I am in Germany as an expat US.
Sparring scrimmaging fighting and playing to win is more important than practicing a move or moves alone.
That opposing point guard is the only person in the world that can say he handled Jocko!
I hate the sanda competition rules, but I have to say Sanda is probably the best for self defense in the street and at the same time very effective in the ring
Boxinggggggggg 💪💪💯💯
Great 👍🏼 basketball 🏀 stories.
I agree. I suppose it's levels. Guy with good live striking training, ie. boxing or muay thai, beats both the guy with no training and the guy with just good karate techniques. However, a guy with live striking *and* good karate becomes very, very awkward for anyone. And that's what has emerged in the UFC. This is especially true for rangy body types which don't have huge power.
However, the guy with just karate against the aggressive guy with no training - the karate guy is in the worst possible situation: unprepared, overconfident. It's ugly. I say this as a lanky former karate guy (10 years) who has started BJJ / MMA (beginner).
What style of karate were you bc this doesn't go for all karate styles
Hey jock... i mean Jocko. I would love to meet you asap. Are you ever doing a meet and greet in the Kansas, Colorado, or Missouri area? Because id love to meet you ask some short questions and go on about my day.
French savate is badass af too
@Jocko Podcast thank you for the consistent podcasts and such, my goal is to be a navy seal. Do you have any tips on how I could be most effective getting into this?
Get in shape and don't quit. You're going to be wet, cold, covered in sand, tired, hungry, in pain, and expected to accomplish certain tasks within a limited timeframe. Learn to enjoy these things.
scombisjr thank you
That kind of depends on your time frame...
If... for instance... You're arriving at this aspiration as a freshman in high school or college, then you've probably got at least a couple years. Take stock of yourself, and yes... get in shape... THEN start testing your metal. Do (or try to do) stuff you haven't ever thought you'd be able to do... PUSH to your limits, and then keep going... get started now in the "do not give up" mindset... Doing it now, when "quitting" isn't going to cause you trouble... so if you're ever actually in "life threatening" danger, you CAN call it off and take stock again... Learn from where it went "sideways".
The major part of Seal training is about making you give up. Ring the bell and quit... That's where you fail at becoming a Seal... AND "absolute faith" is a hell of a thing.
You don't need to do anything reckless either. If you're not going to get permissions or the time-off to go out and try "roughing it" for incrementally longer periods of time, then you can go to the gym and push more rep's out every time... OR swim more laps every time... If there's such equipment, take on the climbing wall exercise for more distance... whatever it takes... BUT the idea is to go further than you thought you could... Whatever record you get the first time, out... break it.
Don't forget, while you're still "looking forward" to this thing... Let yourself recover between these tests. Obviously, you can't just go back to the same test in a day and expect to do better... BUT it needs pointed out, because constant bombardment of injury, weakness, fatigue, etc... stresses... will tear you down more than build you up. The more you can push yourself now, the easier it can be to push through later in the training... A lot of people give up early, because they've never been tested like that... A lot of people get to bootcamp... just plain old bootcamp, and do really STUPID sh*t because they've never worked that hard under that kind of stress either... It's only training, and it's fine to fall short in training, and just DO NOT GIVE UP.
NOW... the harder part. Up front, I was "in" back in the 90's... SO there's a chance it has changed... probably not by much. Personnel evaluations count for or against you trying to get to Seal Training. When I was in, you had to have perfect 4.0+ eval's... The plus, there, indicates that even while the actual evaluations state they are on a 4-point rating system, there's a mythical kind of extra-points... You best be earning those. It's that extra mile, the exceptional attitude, and never hinting that you don't actually WANT to be there, doing the job. Maintaining the uniform is also part of it... (and good luck if you're enlisted)... AND technical knowledge and advancing in that knowledge for your M.O.S. even before you get into the Seals, because (practically speaking) NOBODY EVER signs right up into the Seal-team program off the street.
I could recommend getting through college, so you can go officer, and join the ROTC program to start your quest. At least, if you're a little bit lucky, you can find others who may share your mindset. BUT the double edge to that sword carries the chance of "bad influences" and however innocently you get with buddies who want to be Seals, too... One can start that cycle of "one-up-manship" that invariably ends up with someone injured, hospitalized, or killed.
Finally, aspire... It's fine to aspire to your highest and noblest intentions. Forgive yourself, though. Not everything goes according to plan, and you most often DON'T get it right the first time "out of the gate". Every night, you'll need to forgive your shortcomings. After all, you are only human and can only deal with so much. Apologize for where you know you've come up short... Forgive that of yourself. THEN make a promise to yourself that you'll try to do a little better tomorrow... Do that every night, and you can get through just about anything.
...unless it kills you of course...
...in which case, it's no longer your problem be default. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 thank you so much for taking the time to help me and thank you for all the advice, ive been looking for colleges in my area with Rotc for the navy. Ive heard mixed things about being able to chose to go to buds if your an officer after college, is that how it works or do you need to be selected
@@davidkanouse9873 It's a bit of both, honestly... The Seals want the top less than 1%... SO everyone has a hard time even being accepted. Everything counts for or against you.
Officers, are going to have a certain level of advantage, but they do require enlisted too... Eval's are often a "hair splitting" line they go by... BUT there are other factors.
You can also build your reputation (which will help) while you're still in ROTC and school. Along with working hard on becoming the best you can, keeping your nose clean is paramount.
It's about like any other "prestigious" duty or station. There are lots more applicants than they can possibly accept.
It's worth saying somewhere, that you CAN just flat out choose your M.O.S., and you can try to get into Buds... BUT if/when you get into the service, you're better advised to make the best of where you are, and what you're doing. You may be there a while before you get accepted to Buds. Most guys are.
Taking on extra certifications and education is also worth going after. Some of those "duties" are worthy of letters from your superiors and even Captain's and Admiral's letters, which add some of those "bonus points" to your personnel eval's.
Good luck! ;o)
Lethwei
Good luck training those headbutts
Jocko thinking basketball ball had sparing was very funny. Great clip by the way.
Jocko's dad: "you're gonna be good at ball handling"
2:18 three piece and a soda
I'm a retired professional boxer (formally ranked in supermiddleweight). Boxing is the best to get started with for the reasons given by Jocko and then progress to other martial arts.
There are no shortcuts when I say that fitness is a huge part of the game and the fitter you are the better your chances are of surviving. There's a reason why it is called "Survival of the fittest".
Your own personal conditioning/fitness is key to any success.
Your fitness is key in 4 ways:
1) The adrenalin (fight or flight) of a fight usually results in fighters 'gassing out' after 30 seconds in a street fight, so therefore you need fitness to see you past that initial burst.
2) Your personal fitness (running/rucking etc) helps develop your mental strength to endure challenges you dislike immensely and will enable you to break past the barrier of fragility we all feel.
3) In a real fight (street fight) it will often go to the ground and you need fitness to keep a cool head and to think clearly about what is coming and what you need to do next.
4) Running develops the strength in your legs and as a fight progresses you become weary (especially after round 6). Running helps you maintain your balance and keeps up your ability to absorb impact...and to keep your bloody chin covered!!!
My personal advice for the best cardio exercises for fighting are running, hiking/rucking (weighted) and skipping.
Jocko said that we should start with bjj and then transition to boxing
I took boxing and kenpo since i was four years old and fought on streets and you are right they sucker punch alot
Is kenpo good in a street fight?
Jocko has the most confident I don't knows
Based on the substantial range and speed advantages, coupled with a high power per shot ratio, I feel inclined to vote for 'Gun'.
Tae kwon do as a base is very successful for striking... Example israel adesanya ,connor mcgregor, wonderboy thompson ignacio copllonch.... Ect
MUAY THAI
How to be aggressive and ballistic like Mr Jocko said in the video? And also how to develope that mentality?
CRACK. Do crack
Well in what context? Competition or self-defense?
I would agree that boxing is a good art in general to start. However for self-defense I would say I like old school hand strike heavy Karate like Goju-Ryu.
Woah get some!!!
Echo Charles reminds me of a better shaped Lee Syatt from the Diaz podcast 😧
True. High pitched voice
As a Hoosier I can say honestly that street ball games often lead to street fights
I somehow managed to avoid them, probably because by the time I was really into the street ball scene I was fucking gigantic
I do Kyokushin Karate (full contact), Muay Thai and Boxing. Adding Karate or Another traditional Martial art such as Taekwon or Kung Fu to kickboxing will make you a better striker.
Kyokushin Karate deserves just as much respect as Boxing and Muay Thai.
The bit about live fire practice at the end made me think of the scene in Moneyball where Jonah Hill is asked to practice firing someone and Brad Pitt, in the role of the player being fired, begins freaking out and accusing him of destroying his life. It makes sense that if you haven't actually pressure-tested yourself that you don't actually know how you'll do in a real life situation.
the way I understand it, in sports and fighting, the reality of 'the field' is hugely about reading your opponents body language and as everybody has slightly different body language this is incredibly hard to learn and isn't helped by mechanics
Could Jocko win a fight vs Richard Marcinko?
What about classical pugalism or bare knuckle boxing.
I like boxing but I’m not the best at it, I can take hits all day and be fine and every now and then land some good hits but my biggest problem is I’m a short, stocky guy with some short ass arms. I get punched and I have to reach like 6inches closer to hit someone, so that’s why I always loved wrestling. I’ll stand up at first in a fight, get close take a few hits and take you to the ground and use my tree trunk legs to lock them down then go for a choke hold
How tall are you, I'm 5"7
What about starting with Muay Thai first, then boxing?
Muay Thai. Always been my favorite 😁
One can find some fine teachers on CZcams these days.
Yeah, boxing and muay thai is pretty good. The average person will only train once or twice a week and have lives. Also most people are not athletic. Just boxing is already alot. It's like being a heart specialist compared to a generalist. You focus on certain subjects but it's still hard to learn. If the average threat is a street punk who flails punches it's enough. Muay thai could be next if you want to be well rounded but you're probably not going to catch kicks.
Also the thing about street fighters is not wrong. Alot of boxers used to be and they had a easier time training because they were used to being punched. Others we're thrown aside because trainers didn't have patience for the more nervous type. That's coming from a trainer.
Whach yah, lookin craack!!..
Punching someone who says “what’s your problem” is a fantastic way to lose a shit ton of money and go to jail
well there are actual "street fighters" (streetbeefs etc) - people who do actually start a one on one fight. Just on a street. Sucker punching and aggression is not really a fight in same way ring fight is
Ring fight is a game. Street aggression is a broader game of mindset, status, pack instinct etc
ridiculous. violent thugs carry weapons and fight in groups. they aer not skilled at hand to hand except for body slams. everyone from the any rough neighborhood knows that.
Wow... drilling has been helping me immensely on certain things I'm involved in, such as jujitsu, video gaming etc.... But Jocko is arguing against it to some extent. Maybe it depends on how closely the drill mimics reality that determines its effectiveness. The drills i do to help in Apex Legends, for instance, have improved my game immensely. But i guess I'm also doing the real thing right afterwards.
Exactly, drilling is really great but if you don’t test it then you won’t really improve. I’m learning about how testing yourself is one of the best forms of studying in my study skills class and I’m using that to improve my bjj
I’ve been listening to jockos podcast for 3+ years and this whole time I thought echo was some nerd that had a lot of knowledge( his voice )… didn’t know he was some jacked beef cake 😳🤣🤣🤣
Interview Paul Vunak
You know when the you saw Jason Bourne’s fighting style back in 2002 you wanted to get some of that training. What was that? Kali?
Jason Miller Filipino Martial Arts
Jocko, do you still ball?
Yep I actually started with boxing HAHA before transitioning to muay thai
Was it worth it?
Strike first. Strike fard. No mercy.
Strike first or lose first.
you can be an experienced boxer and still break your hand punching someone
echo charles ~ korg 😁
How to motivate yourself as a mechanic: sit down, start this video, then spam 6 until motivated.
Every one has a plan till they get punxhed in the face- Tyson. Yall hit the head of the nail with that.... Get uaed to getring punched and used to punching someone
If yo know you have a killer puch or a kick combo, doesnt matter how many times you get hit, or how confident your opponent gets. YOU WILL GET HIM.
You type like you've been punched too many times.
@@Mishkola I have been punched a lot during 4 years of kickbox traning. Mastering a martial art is not easy work.
@@Mishkola yeah its been a good life...thanks for the comment..let me know if you are in ft. Lauderdale and we can exchange techniques...actually i believe Jocko has a gym not far away...im not in as good of shape as id like but it will be interesting
@@alocal1334 I'm not sure that comment was meant for me lol. All I did was give you a hard time about your spelling.
100 %
I'm I hearing this correctly? Is Jocko breaking down a movie TO Echo that Echo hasn't seen? You don't hear that..... ever. LOL
The best art to train for striking is either Combatives or JKD, period
You're going to get a bias opinion from me. Former competitive Boxer here (always a boxer). I was fascinated with fighting from a young age. I technically started boxing in Middle School when I was 13 yrs. old. Wasn't serious with it yet though.
At 14 I made the Wrestling team in highschool (having never wrestled before) I was in love with it. I was a Freshman destroying seniors who had been wrestling since they were kids. I just had a talent for it. I started by getting my face planted in the mat, yet I always knew that I was better than the guys smashing my face (from my team). Eventually within that first year from when I started, I was beating all of them.
Fast forward, I got kicked off the wrestling team for bad grades and bad behavior. I was crushed. Then, I found a boxing gym and fell in love all over again. But this time it was different. It was like something I had never experienced before. I spent hours upon hours training in the gym. Yes, I will say I was a natural.. but that meant nothing. I had to practice just like everyone else. I had to overcome pain. and I did well in Golden Gloves -- almost went to the Olympic Trials but I opted out to go serve a proselyting mission for my Church. As a kid I remember sometimes their would be tough guys coming in to fight me. I even had a couple of special forces guys step in the ring with me (when I was a teenager). They weren't jerks though, they were actually super cool. A couple of them always tried to get me to join the military.
My point is this: A solid boxer is dangerous. There is soooo much technique that goes into a simple jab. Most people don't realize that. If you break it down into a formula: Technique = Speed. Speed = Power. If you don't have the proper technique, you are cutting yourself short in a MAJOR way. My beef with most MMA guys is: they don't know how to hit right. AND... they don't know how to get hit.
Nobody wants to get hit -- Nor should you. It's dangerous. However, I found that I had to build a tolerance to getting hit in the face. I try not to get hit in the head/face -- but if I do, it doesn't phase me the way it would to someone who doesn't have enough experience getting hit in the face. Street fights don't give you that experience in my opinion. Only by sparring, fighting, constantly putting yourself in a position of getting hit by trained fighters. Anyways.. that's my two cents. Don't discount boxing's efficiency in a combat situation. I'm still a good wrestler (I know it's very different from jiu jitsu, which I don't have experience in) but you put me on the floor and try to hit me down there. You will lose. Your best odds are to submit me quickly -- which is doable. But if I hit you first, it's going to be very hard. I'm not going to hit you like you've ever been hit before... and I may not be a jiu jitsu fighter, but I'm not bad on the ground either.
Dutch Kickboxing and Greco-Roman wrestling
"Hey you want some CRACQ!"
Go get a massage, ya’ll.
There's been a lot of "crack" in my life Jocko...
The mindset is something that pretty much all martial arts don't address. Geoff Thompson from the UK was probably the first serious pioneer of the mindset in street fights.
Geoff Thompson was so a head of his time and so underated....👍👍👍
"hei what are you doing"
"CRACK"
Kajukenbo?
**crack** x13 **run-away**