Maddie Ziegler 'At Peace' NEVER Talking to Abby Lee Miller Again
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2022
- Maddie Ziegler is opening up about her relationship with former dance instructor and ‘Dance Moms’ star Abby Lee Miller. In a new interview with 'Cosmopolitan,' the 19-year-old actress reveals that she has not spoken to Abby since she left the show and her dance company in 2016.
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Jojo and her mom knew what they were signing up for. Maddie and the original cast members didn’t know what was coming. major difference.
Maddie is not grateful. And if she DIDN’T know?? Why stick it out so many seasons. Theres more here they arent telling us
@@betchpuddin4545 she was a little girl. I think she was only like 12 when she left so she really had no choice. It was her parents doing.
Nina Matthews even if she wasn’t a kid and let’s say she was a grown adult. Many people don’t have the option to say no to a toxic work environment due to living wages. The fact the person you replied to is so far up their ass about it is stupid. But yeah I get you
@@betchpuddin4545 The ogs were on a contract and couldn’t leave. Kelly was trying to leave the show since season one, but couldn’t because of the contract. They also only thought the show would last 6 weeks. Educate yourself before you talk.
@@betchpuddin4545 pretty sure she was on a contract where they had to stay at the studio and if they left they owed abby 100k in cash only and on top of that a contract with life time you saids they have to stay on the show for at least 4 years
There is absolutely nothing wrong with her not speaking to her dance coach, if she felt it was toxic then she did the right thing....nobody needs to stay in a toxic relationship so why is everyone so upset over what is so right?
that’s what i don’t get either. but i also think that it’s bc she was portrayed as abby’s favorite and people would expect for her to not have as bad of a time like some others did, like Nia. but that also doesn’t mean that she wasn’t dealing with a toxic environment so it’s confusing when i see people say that maddie is making bs
I think it’s because she was Abby’s favorite and Abby would moved heaven and earth for her and was a strong force behind her career and then after she took off and she kinda turned her back on Abby but I can also see all the pressure that was on her to be the best could’ve ruined the experience
People are upset because Maddie is a little snot who has forgotten where she came from.
Bravo!
Probably because people feel her and sia have a toxic relationship she went from one to the other
Jojo said it herself, she entered as a fan. It's a different experience, bc as a big fan u accept anything knowing how it could help you and your career. The other girls grew up there, they didn't ask to be that successful, so they weren't ok with the poor treatment they were getting.
That b.s all the girls were there to be famous and dance on broadway 🎭 the girls weren’t dancing because of extracurricular activity. When the show boomed and some of the girls like Brooke and Paige wanted more opportunities! And got instagram famous and wasn’t focusing on dancing 💃… I get that Abby was super hard but the dance world is crucial and now these kids are all adults and do t bend under pressure and are strong 💪 because of Abby
@@genesisone7450 Are you a child? Yelling at someone and insulting them isn’t the only form of abuse. Open up a psychology textbook and look up “emotional manipulation”, “gaslighting”, and “emotional grooming.”
@@genesisone7450 wrong !
@Genesis OG Dance Mom fans will remember that it was always Melissa undermining the other girls’ chance at solo routines and trying to kiss up to Abby that always led to Maddie being panicked. Abby treated the other girls, especially Nia, horribly. And in turn, the girls in their adolescent pettiness treated Jojo and the other new girls in later seasons horribly. The environment wasn’t only toxic because of Abby. The moms were nasty and undermined children to get more showtime.
Okay yes she was a fan but why did Jojo mom allowed her to enter? I once ask my mom at that time when in radio station mention about casting kids with no acting or singing experience to become a star my mom said ABSOLUTELY NOT! you will tank me later. I got so mad at her now that I am 30 I thank her after watching so many CZcamsrs talking about the toxic environment in child start like Disney and nickelodeon.
There's a lot of people that shame Maddie for not talking to Abby anymore, but can we really blame her? Like the pressure that Abby always put on Maddie was insane not to mention that Abby always told Maddie that her friends didn't care about her and she had to listen to Abby constantly dragging them down
....and she put so much pressure on Maddie to win that Maddie was literally having breakdowns every time she lost or messed up. People forget about that part.
Jojo and Nia are literally the only two that are still cool with Abby and honestly it's b/c Nia is nice and Jojo was a Hollywood kid AND her mom was a dance teacher...Jojo was used to the pressure.
yeah Abby definitely emotionally groomed Maddie, and it's sad that no one saw it or cared.
People forget Maddie was only 8 when she began filming for the show, she had an incredible amount of pressure put on her. She was on a national T.V show which went famous world wide, and she had Abby demanding she win competition after competition. I personally think the girl is a queen 🙏❤️
@@caseyjennings7420 Oh yea...she's amazing. I think (on the show) a lot of people assumed that b/c she won all the time that she had it easier than the other girls, but she really didn't.
I wouldn't wanna be one of Abby's faves hahah...let me just fly under the radar....don't pay me any type of attention 🤣
It’s was child abuse both physically and mentally
Abby had an unhealthy obsession with Maddie. She even kissed her on the lips and would mistreat her mother. Lack of boundaries
She wanted to be her she was living through her
I feel like we as a society don’t talk about this enough that kiss was assault
And so does Sia.
Maddie represented the child Abby wishes she had. When Melissa played her by saying she "shared" her girls with Abby, Abby took that seriously. Melissa did that so her children would receive preferential treatment and once they were elevated she snatched them out of there and didn't look back. Abby is acting like a person whose child was taken. She needs to realize the role she played and move on. Maddie is not hers. For Abby's mentality and dignity she needs to leave those young ladies alone and stop acting like they owe her something.
@@leahunfeigned5955 that’s to Melissa left after Abby was about to go to jail as well
I’m so happy because Abby is finally getting everything that she has always deserved. She went to jail, her students are not talking to her, she is not getting any of the credit. As it should be. You don’t get to traumatize and abuse children and still be able to take credit for their success. She did way more damage than she did good. I feel like Maddie was the icing on the cake to publicly announce that she was in a toxic environment, and to say that she never wants to have a relationship with Abby. All of the other girls were very clearly abused but for Maddie it was a little bit more covered up because of the favoritism. I’m so glad that she spoke out as well.
i totally agree, but i i partially also blame their parents - like they KNEW what was going on and knowingly kept their kids in that environment .... very questionable
@@aishaabdulaziz4572 they couldn’t leave with the long ass contracts
@@aishaabdulaziz4572 Yeah I think there was this whole lawsuit against the parents if they tried to leave the show they were going to have to pay like thousands to millions if they broke their contract. I don’t think it was as easy as it looked. I also don’t think that any of the original parents or kids really knew what they had coming until they were in the thick of it. I really have a problem though with the minis and the next generation of kids that started there, like you knew what the hell you were getting into? Why are you crying? Lol
@ChickenNugget abby was a big narcissist she swore it was her that made the kids! NO abby you destroyed them, abused them. She literally groomed Maddie and then got jealous and threw her away once she became more famous than her.
@@aishaabdulaziz4572 they have a contract so some shouldn't leave some of the mom have speak on about that they would have a got a lawsuit
Considering the way Jojo was treated by Abbie, it screams volumes that she's so generous towards her.
Tbh it’s probably because maddie spent So many years of her life on it whereas jojo was only there for like 2 years , she didn’t get effected that much and after a year she opened her youtube channel which allowed her to grow apart from dance moms , definitely not the same situation
@@Tarikkb Let's be honest...Maddie's mother walked once she had used Abbie up. Melissa would have sold hers and their souls all to the devil to make those kids famous.
@@Gurl-5150 oh definitely melissa isn’t any better Maddie even said that she used to wake up mackenzie, make her breakfast and get her ready for a school when Maddie was 8 or smth
@@Tarikkb When she was 6. And that was Kurt’s fault, not Melissa’s.
Jojo is a really strong girl though. She was bullied relentlessly for her bows and hairline by adults online, and she took it in her stride. She’s quite the person. Most people couldn’t do it
For the people that judge Maddie. Ask yourself... would you rather Maddie continue not speaking to Chloe, her sister, and other former dance friends in order to keep her relationship with Abby? Or would you rather her leave the woman that clearly manipulated her and used her as a weapon towards everyone... thus making her relationship with her sister stronger than ever, and being allowed to reconnect with the friends she had to give up on the show.
Because you can't have both honey... Abby wouldn't allow Maddie to have those relationships because she controlled her so much that Maddie didn't even want to go ice skating with her team out of fear she would injure herself and Abby would be mad. She knows where she came from, but imagine being super close with someone that abused others.. you WILL go through some abuse in private. Freaking Maddie danced out of fear sometimes. Even saying "Abby's going to kill me" when she forgot her routine. Tell me why would she be sooo fearful if Abby was super nice.
Thank you I’m glad SOMEBODY ELSE W/COMMAN SINCE , that lady is very manipulative & narcissistic , she can never take accountability of the things she did
but maddie steal talks to jojo and jojo is in contact with abby so what you're saying doesn't make sense because maddie steal speaks with jojo
@@balladofahomeschooledboy0514 So what she talks to Jojo. Jojo isn't Abby the girls are close with jojo they remained friends. Ir doesn't mean that have to be friends with Abby they all have wished her well and thanked her for teaching them to dance. How much more do they need to do to make her happy.
@@bossbabylamarr3347 Exactly so glad somebody has commonsense .
@@sweetreny1155 You're missing the point. They're saying that because of the original comment. This comment says Would you rather her cut off her friends or Abby? There's no need to choose... 1 has nothing to do with the other. Not talking to Abby doesn't make her relationships stronger with her friends. Particularly with when some still communicate with Abby (Kendall and Jojo).
I felt that Abby put so much pressure on Maddie. I'm so glad that JoJo had positive things to say about Abby and that she brought up the business aspect and education that she learned from Abby.
Me too
Abby is a toxic cow that doesn't deserve the kindness imparted by jojo. Those kind of people should be shunned from society. Did you see the way this maniac talked to her young clients during formative years.
Honestly Abby treated JoJo horribly and I feel like her defending Abby is just her inner child still trying to seek validation from her
Abby has issues
@@leftthatbehind6090 Yeah she does, but you know everybody distance themselves from her, so she either adjust, or people will continue to make moves out the door.
As someone who watched Maddie’s journey through Dance Moms for years… I can understand why she wouldn’t want to talk to her anymore. Abby did do a lot to help boost her career but I imagine it took a toll on her because Abby treated Maddie like the golden child and it was evident to the other kids/moms. It’s not Maddies fault but constantly being put on a pedestal in front of your peers can’t have been good for any of them. Glad to see Maddie is doing well!
Yeah but think about the time where Maddie cried because she didn’t get the solo, she can handle the pressure and if she didn’t like it she wouldn’t cry.
@@tianagreen1362 the difference was that Abby often manipulated Maddie. She was rude to all the kids but the second Maddie did something (or her mom really) she would punish maddy for weeks on end, she would tell her she loved her and then proceed to say maddy betrayed and disappointed her, and she’d cry infront of her. And she would do all of this to a 8-10 year old. It wasn’t that she didn’t like the spotlight it was that Abby would use maddy being “better” than the other girls to manipulate and punish her 10x harder anytime she made a mistake.
Parental pressure played a huge part as well. Both Melissa & Abby had her on a pedestal constantly bragging about how great she was then when she didn’t meet the expectations they had, she was subjected to reprimands or shunned. Tbh there was a lot of abusive behaviors (mental & emotional) that some of the girls endured during the show. Best thing was when a few moms pulled their kids from the show and the entertainment industry completely and allowed them to be regular kids/teens. Looking at their social media now as young adults/adults, after keeping a low profile for several years, I t’s easy to see which ones led more stable, normal teen lives & which ones continued (to be pressured ) to perform after leaving the show & the effect it had on them.
@@jhennd literally so true. I didn’t recognize it as a kid( I’m 19 so I first watched the show being the same age as them) and I knew Abby was bad but it wasn’t until I started rewatching that I noticed Melissa is a pretty awful person. She was very manipulative and maybe she thought she was doing what was best for her kid but she was forcing a child to have a maturity that is unreasonable for someone of that age and then blowing up at Maddie she couldn’t handle extreme levels of pressure and trauma. And even with her kids having to deal with her baggage she also let Abby tell Maddie traumatizing things because “it would make her a better dancer” or it would get her favoritism.
@@liajefferson8968 what about the time she slipped and forgot her song Abby didn’t care but when all the others slipped or forgot she punished them over and over again
There’s nothing wrong or selfish or ungrateful with cutting someone toxic off to protect your mental health
Never
Preach 🖐🏽
!!!
Say it louder for those in the back Hannah. AMEN.
Jojo so humble and nice.. Maddie down to earth no time for BS. Both amazing ladies. Never forget where you come from.
Never forgive where you come from, either
@@lucifermorningstarwishesyo2607 that’s exactly what they said..
@@eveek No, it's not. Forget and forgive are not the same words. Why don't you give it a new read, maybe it can help you realize where you went wrong.
@@lucifermorningstarwishesyo2607 love your name
@@lucifermorningstarwishesyo2607 If you never forgive where you came from, whoch is often the right thing, you will also never forget. They go hand in hand.
Maddie was Abby favorite.. It is funny, because Abby treated Jojo the worst other than Nia.
Nah Chloe was treated like dirt 😂
Maybe that was good thing for JoJo. She seemed to put too much pressure on Maddie.
I have a feeling Jo Jo tried to respond in the most mature way she could because she's constantly looked at as a young kid.
Jojo left because she couldn't do ballet
@@RickyRyans Yes, I forgot about that. I still remember when she made a comment about Chole's eyes....
Abby Miller, a grown woman, told an 8 year old kid, Maddie, "none of your friends are happy for you, everyone is jealous of you, better get used to losing your friends, its lonely at the top" she broke up Maddies friendships which were none of her business, and yelled at Maddies mum, undermined and berated her in front of Maddie. Maddie and the girls would cry in the dressing rooms because they were scared of the shouting matches that would break out between Abby and the mums who were trying to fiercely defend and protect their kids from her awful behaviour. And Maddie, like a lot of the other girls, suffered panic attacks from the fear of failure and forgetting routines on stage because the pressure was too much, and whats worse is that they were trapped in contracts which disabled the mums from walking out for the sake of their childrens mental health and safety. Pushing a child to do better is one thing, which Abby Miller is good at, but she did also abuse Maddie and the other girls emotionally and verbally to varying degrees. Heck, I wouldn't have ANY interest in keeping contact with a woman who did that to me throughout my childhood, even if that woman helped me succeed. Sounds like Abby can't let go. You teach someone everything you can and then let them go, teaching is a thankless job, you just move onto the next student and get on with it, she keeps b!tching about these girls for being ungrateful, they're not ungrateful, they just don't want to talk to you anymore, which is their right. Get over it! And Jojo loves to invalidate everyone else's experiences on the show. Abby threw a chair next to Paige ffs, she made no effort to build that kids confidence and did everything the shatter it, then sent her onstage, Paige forgot her routine and then the poor girl got screamed at for it in front of her friends and the mums, and then got screamed at even more for showing any emotion at all. Its a kids dance competition, not the god damn army. And people keep using the statement "it was all for tv anyway so it doesn't matter" when you're a kid and you see your mum shouting and crying at a woman who won't stop taunting her child, I'm sure that feels very real to them, so don't gimme that crap.
Wasn’t it all an act tho
@@rock9121 none of the show was scripted. most of it was staged and heavily edited, but most of the reactions are real
@@luun4rsubliminals oh wow jeez
What she said ^
thank you. couldn’t of said it better.
Some of you don't understand that she can be greatful and still choose not to talk to her. An example would be Britney spears. Her parents put her into acting and singing at a young age. Her parents were extremely toxic and she does not need to talk to them just because they brought her into this world. No one should have to put up with abuse.
Fr. It's so toxic that Abby herself drags the narrative along that they're "ungrateful". It's a spiteful, toxic view on the experience. Funny that Maddie (the child) matured faster than such a bitter lady.
Amen
this
So true. It’s called establishing boundaries. Knowing what’s good and what’s not for yourself and making a mature decision is nothing to whine about from fans
Man I used to love watching this show when I was younger and I related heavily to Maddie the always being put on a pedestal by those close to her the being stuck with being mature, professional and keeping a good face so people don't realize your drowning inside to just wanting to be a kid and hang out with friends without all the pressure and severe anxiety. With adults who are supposed to be nurturers sometimes feel like monsters one of them was my grandma she was like Abby in the sense of actions not personality especially when thinking she did nothing wrong. She used to dress me up in the most grown and expensive outfits put me in the sexiest shoes and the most expensive newest perfume and even tried to buy me diamonds and scheduled appointments to get my ears pierced, now when your younger what girl wouldn't love that! But my parents my mom especially made it clear that I shouldn't be wearing clothes or using perfume or owning a pair of diamonds when I was only 6 in some ways I agreed but I was little and I loved receiving gifts especially when its jewelry, what I didn't realize was that she was disrespecting my parents wishes I heard their rules I brought them back to her and she would say its ok we just won't tell them or you can't show them I remember the "if I buy this for you you need to hide it" a mantra she used MANY times when we hung out so much so that she would make me repeat it "when you go home what are you doing with this? "I'm hiding it". From 5-to 14 it all got to be too much that I had frequent panic attacks when it was brought up from my teachers to friends at school to at home by my siblings and parents and I never wanted to lie I HATED it but it got so overwhelming I didn't know whether she was telling the truth or lying I trusted her. When I told my parents because they found one of the items one day I broke down and apologized they told me it wasn't my fault but they told me that she was the one in the wrong and why it was wrong and that I only need listen to them not her. I was fortunate enough to have adults in my life to tell me that I only have to listen to my parents NOT ALL ADULTS. So I said thank you but gave my grandma the stuff back and told her I'm not ready for it yet, she sighed but seemed to respect it saying she would put it up for when I was older and could enjoy them like I should. The thing with the relationship with my grandma is she could only respect decisions to a certain extent especially mine because she thought she knew what was best for me and when I started speaking up or so I thought telling her certain things that I was not comfortable with like her setting me up for things I never asked for or never wanted she would do it anyway cutting me off saying I would love it or it would be perfect for me even though my mother father and I demanded that she cancel them. She started to set me up for sports because she said I was young and athletic and I loved to run swim play volleyball etc and modelling because she thought I had beauty ,personality and posture. I just loved to take pictures for fun just goofing around being a kid trying on different stuff because I liked it I didn't want to be forced in front of a camera because she declared I'm perfect for it I wasn't comfortable but she would take that as that was something I should be doing for a living to be that I should want to be famous or a name or be rich saying that I had talent and looks and that I and my parents were wasting my potential see the thing was, even if she thought she was right it wasn't up to her it was simply NOT HER PLACE but she never even begun to understand that nor the emotional trauma she put me through for all those years. As those years went by every time she got close to me again she would keep trying saying that I didn't know what I was giving up bargaining with my parents saying that I was letting my life be mediocre I finally had enough other thing that I went through in the life including dealing with her puppeteering I finally had had enough I responded saying that my life is what I choose to make it not you I confronted her that night for the first time ever saying that I wasn't scared of her anymore and that I love her but she had to stop this obsession because I knew she loved me but when she acted like this it was obsession not love and I at 14 had finally figured out and understood the difference. I ended it by saying this is my life I will take control of how I am going to live it either be apart of it or stay out she semi apologized and said she didn't want to lose her granddaughter I told her I loved her but she needed to let go and let me live my life my way. Now we are on okay terms I will always love her and I occasionally see her she does still say certain things here and there with undertone meaning but she knows I will not have it and I will cut her out if I need to she listened and we proceeded to hang out and have a good time but I still keep her at a distance because I know all the damage she has done. I have forgiven her but I will not forget that she almost made me lose my spirit and I will always protect it. I am saying this because I am happy now though I am still figuring out who I am I am content. I was really happy to come across this video and see that Maddie like me learned that its ok to be grateful for the things a certain person taught and encouraged in you while also realizing you were in a toxic environment/relationship and to cut that person off/ or distance yourself and finding peace in that, that is beautiful and oh so worth it and I want every girl or boy who have gone through this to know that your not alone and it is ok and not awful to push people like this away because they will do more harm then good and you always want to keep your spirit that belongs to you and you alone and NO ONE can take it from you. That being said I hope everyone has a blessed day😊
I can see why JoJo still appreciates the show despite Abby's abuse. The show was already a hit and Abby championed for her to join the cast after encountering her on a competition show spin-off (Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition.) JoJo and her mom both realized that they could use being on the hit show as a platform to launch her brand, etc. and they did, successfully. So no matter how their experience was, they have to give credit for Abby for including JoJo and her mom because they literally would be unknowns if they hadn't gotten the exposure to introduce the world to her bows, style, etc.
As for Maddie, Abby wants to claim her championing her got her noticed by Sia and therefore she would have never had the opportunity without "Dance Moms." Which is true. But it's Maddie taking the opportunity and knocking it out of the park that got her the world's attention and made Sia want to keep collaborating with her. So it's mitigating her talent by constantly saying "Oh, I'm only here because I was on a reality show that Sia watched." Maybe that's how she got noticed but that's not how she became a star and yes, Abby's training helped her to be a stickler for perfection but she still was disciplined and passionate enough to excel under her guidance. Abby wants to say "Without me..." and Maddie's talent is evident regardless of who she coached with. So she can only give her so much credit.
According to Abby, they gave her free acting classes and free privates and the producers didn’t want Maddie to do the sia thing, Abby was the one who fought for it and made it happen. When I watched abbys response it made a little bit more sense cause she wasn’t saying oh I made her famous, she just felt like Maddie should acknowledge ALL her teachers.
@@Shophiamondar2 I work in film/TV and cast for movies/TV. When Abby gets people from Pennsylvania to give her acting classes, she's 1) focusing strictly on facial expression for the sake of dance and 2) they're not people who know film/TV. Maddie just has that "it" factor and it's how she was able to carry an entire music video to the scope of getting a billion views. As for the producers not wanting Maddie to do it, she doesn't need them nor Abby's permission to take on the gig. It sounds like Abby is just trying to justify she changed Maddie's life when, in reality, Sia notoriously loves watching reality TV and writes songs about the shows (like "Pretty Hurts" by Beyonce was based on watching "Toddlers & Tiaras") so yes, she became aware of Maddie through "Dance Moms" but not because of Abby but because the choreographer she uses (Ryan Heffington) was able to identify how talented Maddie was based on her performances.
Abby said on a podcast INFRONT OF JOJO that she loved her but didn't want her there in dance moms
Abby didn’t want jojo. The producers fought for her knowing how the audience reacted to her. Abby actually fought against her multiple times.
@@ManpreetSingh-fw1lu Well, whatever the case, JoJo was using "Dance Moms" as a platform to launch her brand and no matter how horrible the experience was at times, she's appreciative because it was all a means to an end. And Abby accepted her enough to include her as part of the team and not harass her to get her to leave a la Chloe/Christi.
But I don't know where you got this information. Abby has had to include people against her will and she seems to turn on them immediately. With JoJo, she seemed friendly to her in her early episodes, calling her "JoJo with the Bow Bow," etc.
You can both acknowledge that Abby trained the girls and respect the girls distancing themselves from Abby.
Maddie Ziegler stay strong don’t ever let anyone pressure you into being in a toxic situation
jojo is always invalidating the other girls experiences and decision to not talk to abby. jojo called christi ‘arrogant’ for saying giana was ‘just as bad as abby’. these are the girls experiences, which WERE toxic and abusive, jojo clearly had a different experience, she doesn’t always have to act as if the girls are wrong for distancing themselves from an abusive woman.
EXACTLY! Like girl you were there for barely two seasons and think you know everything Chloe and Christi were at the ALDC for 13 years!
@@serenafossi FR
I didn't know she called Christi arrogant, wow.. Giana was as bad as Abby, literally was Abby's biggest enabler and could be really nasty sometimes.
But she didn't, she said everyone has their own experience and her perspective is different because she came in as a fan, and dipped out as a fan
And here you are invalidating JoJo's experience lol. Get a grip. It's okay that some of the girls actually had positive experiences. You can't complain about the golden girl being "invalidated" and in the same breath do the same exact thing.
Good for you Maddy...that stuff was outta control. All the yelling was a bit shocking. 😬
I don't think adults should be allowed to yell at kids the way that you were yelled at, or bossed around. I'm glad you're speaking out about it. Very very brave dude.
Adults shouldn’t be allowed to yell at kids or be the boss of them ?? What backwards ass world do you come from !??
@@whatever7588 theres a healthy way to discipline and raise children. Yelling for no reason is not one of those ways. Constructively guiding and calmly explaining would be a nicer method.
How was that show even legal?
@@veronicabanasiewicz9323 No freaking clue.
im actually so happy that maddie and nia are neighbors. as children, nia was definetly the odd one out. and then the longer they danced together the more like sisters they all became. so i love even in adulthood, you know that feeling when you graduate high school and you never see those people again, i love that nia and maddie actually live their lives beside each other. that makes me literally so happy, because watching the show, i knew nia struggled. but its amazing to see how as adults they live right by each other.
The fact that ALL of them feel the need to distance themselves…..should let you know that you might be the problem. 🙄
facts
Exactly. Like there is one common denominator here
Jojo’s mom had a better understanding of show biz than Maddie’s mom, and helped Jojo put things into perspective, not take things too seriously, stay grateful, and forgive. While Maddie is the stronger artist, Jojo seems way better suited for celebrity status.
Abby was abusive with textbook narcissistic personality disorder and she’s lucky if she doesn’t have any students that have commit suicide because of her
No
Agreed. These little brats were spoiled and coddled and if they're not used to tough love they call it abuse. At lease Jojo still appreciates Abby.
@@christopherluvsaidan67 They can be grateful for what the show did for them AND acknowledge that they went through ab*se. They can say that what they went through was hard AND that they wouldn't change it. It doesn't have to be an either-or. Also, you really shouldn't call them spoiled or say that they weren't ab*sed. The stuff we watched them go through was INSANE, and we only saw 45 minutes of their entire week. It has been acknowledged many times that Abby said and did worse things to them that were so bad the producers felt they couldn't show it on TV. I say this acknowledging that I don't personally know you or what you have gone through, but your comment raises a lot of red flags. Might you have gone through similar trauma to them and pushed your feelings to the side in order to survive, and now expect everyone else to do the same instead of acknowledging what they went through? Because if so, there are resources out there to help you safely unpack that sh*t. I can help you find some if you want. Just something to think about.
none of them have ever denied the fact that abby has helped them get to where they are today. it’s okay to move on from people who have been in your life. maddie is allowed to move on and not want to be in the same environment as she was.
I play a competitive instrument. None of my instructors have ever treated me in a way that I felt traumatized. Strict and mean aren’t the same thing and Abby was straight up mean.
Are you on a semi-scripted reality show for your music
@@dancer4life273 None of Abby’s lines were scripted.
Yup. And Abby is still pretty offensive and tone deaf to this day. She says a lot of fucked up things and no one holds her accountable for it. And why are we shying away from the word "abuse." That's what these children underwent. They were abused in order to get viewership for the show. Abby's toxic energy has manifested itself in so many different ways. So sad she can't see it.
@Trashina Baggarino I agree their mothers should've put the health & well being of their children above all else. They should be ashamed of themselves.
@Trashina Baggarino you are right to , Abby should've said No to using the OGs because the girls are to young and immature to handle the schedule , & insisted that they stay in dance training.
I’m watching the dance moms girl talk. And I just feel so bad for Maddie. She talked about how much pressure she was under and how She would literally cry at night because of how Abby treated her when Melissa didn’t do everything she wanted she literally felt like Abby didn’t like her and didn’t want her to dance. And I can’t imagine how that must’ve felt to have someone who u look up to so much reject you for something that’s not your fault
Please stop putting words in her mouth lol. She has never said that. That sounds more like what Chloe said. If anything Abby wanted Maddie to dance the most and Maddie knew that, that’s why she was under so much pressure lmao so why would Maddie even say that? Y’all gotta stop lying on here. 😂
You can talk about Maddie’s awful case without lying to garner more sympathy. It’s bad enough. You don’t need to lie and add fake details that don’t even make sense.
@@corimoon3360 actually…YES. She did lol. I hate when ppl try to correct me and they’re wrong. In dance moms girl talk the girls discussed how there were many occasions where Abby would punish Maddie for not betraying her friends or she would be upset with Melissa and would treat her badly. She talked about begging for a solo and crying at night because she felt like Abby didn’t like her anymore. Do your research before you try to reply to my comment. You just embarrassed urself by accusing me of lying and adding fake details💀 yes Maddie was treated badly and people like you shouldn’t invalidate her story because you don’t feel the need to educate yourself
@@asyriawillliams7018 Ignore them, they’re a toxic Chloe fan & Maddie hater. Recently I thought they got better because their comments about Maddie got a bit more nice and she wasn’t dragging in Maddie every time she complimented Chloe, but now it’s gone back to the way it was before.
@@fantasyaldc8802 yea I feel u, it’s just annoying when ppl try to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and they’re too lazy to even do their research before replying to my comment💀 like literally it takes a second to google it
@@asyriawillliams7018 Exactly lmao. These toxic stans won’t even do research and only take into account things that support their own point and deflect things that don’t.
Jojo is a perfect example of grateful her parents did a great job..
Jojo really proved to be a very grateful and well raise kid
Jojo has a positive energy. Not a fan of hers but she seems down to earth and makes sense when she talks
Maddie is also grateful but traumatized. She was there since the beginning and started very young. Jojo showed up when the show was almost over. She was older and much more aware of what the show was all about.
She is grateful for what the SHOW did for her... it gave her a career, but she doesn't have to be grateful to Abby because if you were in their shoes... with having to endure/survive a toxic and mentally/emotionally abusive teacher, especially at such a young age... as much as Abby did teach them you do not get to tell others to be grateful for the mistreatment they received when they were literal children.
@@kiemgallagher9670
contradiction.
always so proud of Maddie, and all the girls!! lifetime made them all famous, and their talent made them successful! They are allowed to choose who is healthy for their life and i support them!
Can't blame her. Protect your energy queen!
How many times must we relive this drama with them. They should blame their mother who was desperate and would’ve sold them up a river if it gave them fame and fortune
Well said..
I didn't see her blame she just moved on with her life like most people do when they become adults
I love the fact that they are ALL still great friends! The girls always showed love between each other in spite of the moms and Abby!
I completely forgot about that show. A lot of people seem to be having conflicting opinions here. They were all kids and it’s completely fine if the majority of them don’t want to have a relationship with someone that caused them trauma. While I do also think all the adults in this situation are to blame, I don’t think it’s Maddie’s or any of the girls fault for having negative emotions towards their instructor. I barely saw any of the show when it was on the air because I couldn’t believe this woman could treat children like that, let alone be comfortable with it being aired. Show biz
Or not, if my kid was in a dance school and their instructor yelled and berated them like that and then me for sticking up for my kid, we’d be out of there so quick. You don’t have to tear someone down so you can rebuild them. That’s a really toxic way of teaching.
I agree, except for the part when you said all the moms are to blame. The earlier moms like Christi and Holly and others didn’t realize what the show would exactly bring.
If you wanted to leave you had to pay a MINIMUM of $100,000 and have your child blackballed from the industry
@@berrisfueller6221 Yes, they originally signed up for a 6-week documentary and then somehow the producers legally entrapped them for a 6-year show. To be unable to leave was likely tr**matizing in and of itself. It's one thing for JoJo, Kalani, etc's families to willingly sign up for that (although I don't think the parents should have done that to their children), but to only sign up for such a small period of time and then be, in a way, k*dnapped for years was SO awful.
Here's the thing everyone grows up and moves on as they should Maddie is now a grown up and doesnt need to stay in the past ❤🥰
Abby will always try to take credit for Maddies' success, that's just who she is. The fact is that Maddie has been a stand out star from the beginning. Abby saw that and pounced, knowing that one day she'll "get credit". Maddie is a straight badass and is far above Abby in every way, professionally and personally.
That's bc Abby had every right to Maddie. Abby made Maddie. Abby hated Chloe bc she was better than Maddie naturally. Abby had to create Maddie by giving her extra practice, teaching her solos before everyone else, and bribing the judges. Chloe won without any extra practice, less time to learn her routines, and while Abby tried to talk the judges into deducting points. So yes, Abby had ownership over everything Maddie became and nothing over any of the other girls.
Once Maddie started to get a tiny taste of what the other girls were experiencing and she plateau bc Abby always kept her in a box thats when she wanted to leave. She'd never experienced any of the abuse Chloe and Nia suffered.
@@ndlamont01 FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH!!!
Fun Fact: Even ABBY herself said Maddie didn’t have the natrual talent but she pushed her and gave her all this extra time and attention to help her get better. Abby knew Chloe was lowkey better than Maddie and that’s why Abby tried her damndest to crush her spirit and hold her back. All you have to do is watch Chloe’s old Musical Theater solos to see just how talented she was… and she did it all on her own. No help from Abby and no extra privates and producers backing you either. She just had pure talent and Abby HATED that.
The Maddie haters thriving on here lmao. (Not to the OG comment). Abby did not “make” Maddie. She offered her more training and treated her more kindly, yes, but Abby on her own didn’t do anything. It was the tv show, the platform, that got Maddie noticed by Sia, and it’s because of Sia that she reached the fame she has today. Abby had NO connection with Sia. Sia reached out privately to Maddie.
Without the tv show, none of the kids would’ve gotten the fame they did. Name one person who got as big as Maddie did before the show from Abby’s studio. Nobody.
Before the show, Brooke was the favorite, not Maddie. Kelly even admitted that. And even then, Maddie was beating the girls, Chloe included, left and right. This was before the “super secret lessons” and favoritism. So clearly, Maddie would’ve made it even without them if a literal 7 year old had an undefeated year. Chloe was better than Maddie naturally, but natural talent is nothing without the work put into it. Chloe had more natural talent than Maddie even before the show. She had the perfect body. But who came out on top in more competitions - Maddie. If you don’t believe me, LoomerE has a video with official scoresheets. Maddie beat/placed higher than Chloe around 20 times before the show, while Chloe did around 3. Maddie was always the harder worker.
Maddie didn’t plateau in the later seasons, Abby’s training just wasn’t challenging her anymore. Then she started training with real, professional choreographers like Brian Friedman and this world renowned choreographer complimented her on her own spark and what she did to the number. This “spark” is something no teacher can teach.
She's angry at the wrong person. Her mother signed her up for the show & kept her there week after week. If the environment was so toxic, it was her mother's responsibility to remove her from it.
EXACTLY. At the end of the day, non of this was an issue when she was touring and being favored over everyone. Her mother said nothing. I understand Abby being over the top by making the environment toxic but WHO drove them their everyday? It is crazy how they won’t even call her for being sick no I stand by that. Because at the end of the day she invested In These kids. A little call to say get well is NOTHING hard to do.
Y’all are ridiculous. Yes, Melissa is partially to blame, but at the end of the day, a bully is a bully and that’s that.
If someone comes up to you and hands you their child and you beat the child, and they bring the child back, are you all of a sudden free of guilt?
@@fantasyaldc8802 no quite frankly Melissa is to blame if it was that toxic of an environment she could have pulled her but she didn't want to pull her kids from that because she wanted every opportunity that came from that show. She wanted to try and be like Kris Jenner and she's not even a fit to hold Kris Jenner's purse
@@dancer4life273 It was mostly Abby’s fault for making it that toxic of an environment. If literal 9 year olds are having panic attacks, crying themselves to sleep at night because they think Abby hates them, and don’t want to come to class because their passion and love has been beaten out of them, then that’s an issue on the teacher. The teacher gets paid to teach and treat their students well, not cause anxiety and other mental health issues.
@@dancer4life273 can we not pick sides.. not all situations are pointing fingers to only one person. this is the case where both the parents AND abby were in the wrong. the parents for allowing their children to continue in such a toxic environment, and abby for being super mean on the show. there’s a fine line between strict and mean, and abby crossed it. any logical person would know that the way abby behaved was very harmful to a child mentally; the things she would do and say in front of them was so not appropriate, and even if it was for a reality tv show or not, that DOESN’T make it okay. as for the parents, it was their responsibility to do their job and to protect their kids from these kinds of environments but they chose not to because of the idea that their daughters would become stars.
Jojo is a businesswoman. She always wanted to be in the entertain business and she took the hits to get to where she is. She knew dance moms would launch her and it did give her great experiences. I’m sure Abby has made peace with the moms never speaking to her and the girls as well. She is living out the rest of her life now, she can’t worry about one chapter of it.
Maddie didn’t leave the studio she said it herself she just didn’t want to be on dance moms anymore
The bottom line is her mother allowed her to be in a toxic environment from a young age. Shame on any parent who exposes their child for monetary gain/fame. Sad!
This isn't in a hating way but please do your research, in 2011 the ogs auditioned for the show, THEY CHOSE
the environment wasn't that bad in the begin but it got worse. No one expected it to get worse. They also couldn't just up and leave the show because they had a contract.
exactly! Those moms were just as toxic. Christie and Kelly were the only two who finally decided to put their kids first. The others wanted their kids to be famous and blamed Abby instead of themselves for their poor parenting.
Actually, because Melissa's family were OGs, they originally signed up for a 6-week documentary and then somehow the producers legally entrapped them for a 6-year show. (Again, this only applies to the OGs, including Cathy and Vivi. Abby was also tricked and entrapped, but with a slightly different contract.) To be unable to leave like that was likely tr**matizing in and of itself. It's one thing for JoJo, Kalani, etc's families to willingly sign up for that (although I don't think the parents should have done that to their children), but to only sign up for such a small period of time and then be, in a way, k*dnapped for years was SO awful. Melissa did do other things that seemed fame-hungry, but I just wanted to clarify that her getting her kids on the show was not her choice.
aw that picture of nia and maddie grown up made me smile.
Good for Maddie!! She deserves whatever comes her way. The young lady has worked for everything she’s gotten. Abby is just as mean as she was before.
Maddie's looking for free publicity for her fabletics collection and her movie projects. Time for her to grow up dance moms has been over for years and she's been off the show longer than that. I hope Abby and Collins entertainment sues her for defamation
@@dancer4life273 yeah it’s a good thing you have no idea how the law works. The last thing Abby wants is for the truth to come out. By the way, you have to be a sick person to go after Maddie who isn’t even old enough to drink. Get a life Abby, we see you!
@@ellemarr7234 Abby knows a little more that would be damaging if the truth came out. Abby was right when she stated she trusted the wrong person. Abby has a right to call out her idiotic accuser- but she learned from the best. Her mother. Maddie & Mackenzie get caught with resurfaced video with their racist antics - people like you blow it off or they were young and didn't know what they were doing . Little FYI, if Maddie's antics start affecting Abby's livelihood she can sue for defamation. Your original comment Maddie hadn't had to work hard to get things most of her projects were connected to Sia, who has been kicked to the curb like they do everyone else when they are done with them.
@@ellemarr7234 by the way if Abby was so toxic why did Melissa sign Guardianship to her when Melissa just had to get away with her boyfriend? Why did they stay at the studio if it was so toxic?
She was handed a lot of things but sure.
My personal experience with psycho people is that they don't do the bad treatment to EVERYONE. So when the badly treated trying to talk to someone the one receiving good treatment will just brush it off, saying it is not true and accusing of making stories. So the person receiving bad treatment will start to doubt themselves and spiral deeper into depression.
Probably not related to this story cuz I don't know this show and what is considered toxic.
I’m glad Jojo is grateful for Dance Moms, and I’m happy for Maddie fro being strong and not letting anyone pressure her into a toxic relationship.
There wasn't a "Dance Mom" show. It was Abby dance studio and people was interested in her first and the girls. But it was both the girls and Abby who made dance moms bigger.
I'm just happy that Maddie is happy and stable now. She doesn't need to hear her name being talked about by adults every one minute and she's not hurting or stressing because of Abby anymore
I bet if she hadn't become famous as such yet and Abby show was still going.. Maddie would still be on the show
Definitely
Honestly I thought about that too but I think maybe she would have moved on like Brooke did and become burnt out.
Maddie was burned out and wanted to leave by Season 4.
@@fantasyaldc8802 yeah I agree I think she would have left or find other opportunities like broad way.
Abby was mean and racist to Nia. To this day, I don’t care for Nia’a mom. She did not protect her daughter. Nia, cried a lot from Abby’s insults. The other moms, said nothing as well.
Holly did stand up to Abby when it came to get racist comments towards Nia.
NIA DIDN'T CRY ALOT! AND HOLLY STANDS UP FOR NIA AND THE OTHER KIDS ALL THE TIME!!!!
@@JoyOgbatue but she still stayed and brought Nia back to the studio because of the "bigger picture". Nothing should be bigger than making sure your daughter is not subjected to racist comments and treatment. I had to stop watching the show because Abby was beyond cruel to those girls, especially Nia.
I feel like Maddie (Abby’s favorite) refusing to talk to Abby and keeping contact with Nia is the only thing thing has the potential to hold Abby accountable for her actions. But of course Abby is using this to victimize herself instead of taking any accountability for the harm she causes.
@@cayndii30 it’s called having to be in a 6 six season contract, duh? 🙄 That’s why they couldn’t leave the show. Like really? Have you ever watched the show?
thats how you get blessed, being grateful
There's a thing called boundaries. Adults often lack of them. Not a child's fault.
@@wasitjustadream2345 oh please she’s an adult, she’s seems very ungrateful
@@PipesSquadDrama Often you have to be ungrateful to not be blind. It's part of life. If you are hurt, first heal, then forgive, there's a time for everything. You cannot be genuenly grateful if a part of you is traumatized, she was a child, again.
@@wasitjustadream2345 on top of that I feel you aren't entitled to forgive people too, honestly up to you as an individual on how you go on about dealing with your trauma as long as it's healthy
Maddie you got it!!! I saw it in you as a little girl!! You are one bad ass dancer!!! On point 100%!! You’re phenomenal🥳🥳🥳
Everyone who watched the show knows it was toxic...
When it comes to maddy, I'm surprised because she was the one who was treated the best ,and her family was privileged compared to the other kids.
It doesn't mean Maddy was compfortable with it.
They were all privileged except Jojo
Having money doesn’t necessarily mean you have a great home life it’s been said that their father was very neglectful and their mother was having an affair with her boss who was possibly also married at the time that’s not exactly a great upbringing for a child.
The producers knew which mom too cuddle up to so to speak cuz I would put their child out in the forefront and of course that was Melissa.
Everything is not what it seems, don’t judge a book by it’s cover. Obsession is not healthy. And that’s not being treated the best, that’s called manipulation.
I admire Jojo.She is the BEST.
Jojo has grateful loving heart for her dance teacher Abby.
Because you are so good at heart Jojo God continues giving you great success in life.
she doesnt have to talk to her, but forever be thankful that she helped put ur name on the map.
"Never put all your eggs in one basket" Christi and Kelly were right about Melissa.
💯
Melissa played the industry game and played it well. Nothing wrong with the girls distancing themselves from Abby. They paid for her classes and she was an amazing teacher but could be extremely toxic, constantly pitting them against each other. They don't owe her anything. On the flip side it's also nice that Jojo continues to have a relationship with her.
@@02loud The rest of the mums paid too for classes. Thats the thing. Abby make sure Maddie was always given first pick when it came to opportunities, solos etc
@@fatimateresa19 And that’s a fault on her. Maddie never asked for any of that and she would’ve been fine without it.
@@fantasyaldc8802 without the opportunities of the show at Maddie would have been nowhere acceptable little fairy tale world that her mom created.
You are such a beautiful young woman. Don't look back. Just keep going toward the future.
That’s why you don’t pick favorites. That’s the thanks abbey gets for making her a star⭐️ and giving her the opportunity. Jo jo is super humble and will never forget where she came from
Abby didn’t make her a star or give her any opportunity lmfao. *Producers* casting her on Dance Moms gave her the platform and chose things like who got solos every week, and Abby wasn’t even her actual teacher (or supposed to be on the show at all in the first place). She was the dance studio owner, while people like Gianna, Mark and Matt etc. were working with & correcting her and demonstrating. She doesn’t talk to her now because she’s out of that environment can clearly see the effects of her abuse, grooming and manipulation at the hands of Abby? She’s not going to pretend to like a woman who contributed to her PTSD and having consistent anxiety breaks and attacks. Maddie has thanked Dance Moms and her training (and even Abby herself, which she doesn’t need to) literally several times.. She’s never “forgotten where she’s came from” pls.
it’s weird how they don’t resent their moms for letting them stay for so long
Thank you for this comment. They were fine living in the toxic environment to make money and gain fame. To each his own. They don't have to talk to her anymore. But let's not ignore that these parent put their children in this environment and kept them there when all of us were screaming at the TV saying "GET OUT OF THERE!!!".
They're were trapped in their contract as it was a six season contract.
@@pryfy7746 Correct. I work in production and can tell you now...working your way out of a tight contract can easily bankrupt you...
The parents were in a contract not the kids ! And who’s fault was that???? Not Abby’s who’s signed the contract ? And I don’t care ! If a woman was abusing my kids and you had evidence of abuse Any judges would have let them out easily if there was child abuse ! This is all fake PR Bullshit
They were trapped in contracts. Kelly would lash out in order to be told to leave by Abby to get her kids away
I love, love, love Jojo’s hairstyle! 😍
Hi Janet how are you doing?
Abbie was tough but maddie wouldn't be where she is now if it weren't for her
She will be in Pittsburgh
Abby NARCISSIST 🤢🤮
I admire all the girls for how they’ve grown to be. Despite all those years of toxicity & abuse, they’re lovely & respectful young adults. ❤
I’m glad her and Nia are close ❤️ Yes!!
Was it toxic? Yes! Give thanks to Dance Moms and to Abby. You wouldn’t be where you are today without both. Jo Jo is a class act!
I love Maddie so much she’s my idol.
Ok, now can we talk about Maddies unhealthy relationship with Sia
Bruh i feel you i thought they have a crazy relationgship too
What's so crazy about Maddie doing some videos for Sia?
Sia is Maddie’s godmother
Yes i always said its weird that she claims that girl is her muse finally someone says it
@@mave143 its not the videos its what sis says about this young girl . This is way back if you fig into it its kind of weird Sia a grown woman had said she’s obsessed eith this girl that this girl its her muse but if it was a man then it would’ve been all over the news
Jojo wasn't dismissing Maddy's experience or any of the other girls' experiences. She was simply stating her own.
The music business is hard so she was hard Abby has a good heart god bless me
Abby was straight up abusive to her students in that show. There’s no reason for any of these girls to have to defend their decision to cut her out of their life. Coaches don’t have to demean and degrade their students in order for them to succeed. Can’t imagine how much psychological damage being on that show did to all of those girls in the long term.
She is so amazing!
Maddie was my favorite dancer and now she is grow up now follow your dream what ever that is
Hello 👋 Michelle how are you doing?
@@jammyhoofman2302 I'm fine
@@michellelewis9519 How is the weather over there and I hope you have something to eat already?
I'm a huge fan of the show. (Ironically I am watching it again right now as I type) I don't think I really understood the pressure and stress on everyone until I watched dance moms uncovered. I hope one day all the girls will be able to maybe message Abby. But I think as young adults they are finding who they are, & I'm sure there is trauma to work through on all parts. I just hope eventually they will be ok with just saying hi or visiting Abby. She did alot for them. Although I have mixed feelings because of the way Abby was especially in later seasons. They all did something right, because they are definitely stars, but was it completely worth all of it. I don't know
that show may have brought opportunities to you, but you got were you are today because of YOU and all YOUR hardwork and dedication!!!!
Without the show they would be just little girls from Pittsburgh. They would have been average students except for Chloe and Nia cuz they were straight a students
@@dancer4life273 that's why they said they were thankful for the show otherwise your comment would be relevant to OP
I am so sorry for what happened maddie
Jojo! Your hair! 😍
People who are shaming Maddie for not talking to Abby have their own issues with toxicity
People in the comments really don't understand the entertainment industry is pressure enduring and stressful, Abby while dramatic was being normal in terms of her job. It isn't an easy job and this is how they push for quality and bring the best out of people
@Josh Johnston It's the mums, they should've known what's best for their child at that age, all the mom's thrived off of the money they all received and the fame they were getting which attracted further business for the girls. They were just children Abby set their careers but it's the parents that should say what's enough and obviously Maddies mum and many others didn't.
Kinda yes I agree but also what adults don't realize is that they are so little and children are sensitive so if they are too hard on them then the heartbreak can stay with them for the longest time
Telling children that they’re fat and ugly isn’t normal youre just a sociopath
I disagree she wasn’t pushing for the best of them she was pushing for wins which is why so many of Maddy‘s routines contained the same elements and they weren’t really challenged with new technique only at perfecting technique they’ve done for years. They needed a teacher that cared more about their progress than their number of wins which is something Maddy mentioned.
Jojo is so sweet, bless her
I cant stop thinking of her solo “lights camera action” where one of the lyrics say “catch me later on entertainment tonight”
and look where she is..
That’s right Jojo!
Mad is so amazing❤️🔥🧿
Lovly to hear the girls still gud friends ❤
Cheryl Burke, from the "Dancing With The Stars" dancing competition TV show, did try to help out the "Dance Moms" in it's final season, as a coach, before the show finally got cancelled in 2019. For Abby, it was either: Maddie, Maddie's sister (Mc)Kenzie (Ziegler) or Chloe (Lukasiak); or any replacement who could become the next "Maddie." I did feel bad for Nia (with her doctor mom, Holly) and Kaya "Black Patsy" (a Dance Mom) and Asia (Monet) Ray, three of the few African-American figures on the show; Lexine (Maxine (Cantoria)'s daughter; an Asian girl) and Tua (Shayna (Tevaga)'s daughter): the latter two was from Season 1): Patsy was feisty; she was nicknamed after Patsy Ramsey (the wacky Dance Mom of the late child pageant star, JonBenet Ramsey); I liked the long-time ongoing rivalry between Abby (ALDC) and Cathy (Candy Apples); the Candy Apples had broken up in Season 5 to become Jeanette's BDA.
Her mother allegedly took a legal deal to avoid any investigations into her contributions to the federal indictment Abby was facing.
Also, she didn’t need to use Abby anymore. Maddie had, “Made it.”
Wake up, people… if they were as rich as they always bragged about on the show (from a wealthy step daddy), why didn’t he just contribute to the legal fees to break the contract?
Because the money and fame was worth more at the time than principals and beliefs they now claim to have.
Get with it.
🙌
THIS!!!
Funny because they never claimed they were “rich” on the show. Melissa even admitted to having to work Front desk to pay for privates. Seems you all like to make stuff up.
@@fantasyaldc8802 They aren't Melissa married a rich guy. In the first season she even says my boyfriend knows how much I spend on dance because he signs the checks. I think it was the season two Christmas special that Abby gifted Melissa a certificate to a match maker and made a comment about Melissa needing a millionaire boyfriend. Melissa responded to that by saying I don't need one I already have a millionaire HUSBAND. You also see Melissa driving a brand new Audi after they got married. Melissa only worked at the front desk to PAY for her girls dance in the very beginning why she kept working it after he was paying leads me to believe it was just another way for her to kiss up to Abby and assign her daughters privates first.
@@fantasyaldc8802 Melissa was in charge of the books. Funny how payments prior to dance moms made it it to creditors for the bankruptcy but after the show started some how got misplaced.
Watching this reminds how much I want to see Maddie dance again in one of Sia's music videos and hopefully, it'll happen soon. And yes, I've seen the "Music" movie and everything that followed in association with the film.
Maddie and her mom never thought it was toxic the whole time Abby made Maddie her number 1 girl and she had done no wrong. Several of those girl were good and weren’t given a chance that Maddie was. No of these girls were actually top notch and even Maddie was shown that when Asia Monet game to the studio. You can bet Maddie was glad that asiA wasn’t in her age group because Maddie wasn’t in Asia’s league. Obviously Maddie has forgotten where she has come from. Yes Abby was rough, my child wouldn’t of danced under her, but Maddie really didn’t suffer what the other girls did
Sad to hear. It really is. Maybe it was too toxic but you do owe her so so much
Agree.
Sometimes we have to leave toxic people behind. Wish them well , not worth being mean, holding onto grudges just go
good for her. she owes her nothing. if anything, abby ought to be thanking maddie for carrying that show on her back. what an absolutely horrible, horrible person. I had a bitch for a dance teacher too and I had to leave the studio once she began harassing me and my family. between abby and the weird relationship with sia, i'm pleasantly surprised by how well maddie has turned out.
Es muy interesante que está de regreso dance moms en 2024.
Gosh I LOVED this show
all the girls were kind of destroyed by Abby and they didn't want to dance anymore when they left the show but I'm happy for Maddie for saying what's right
People praise jojo for still being friends with abby
But it's literally so obvious abby only wanted something to do with jojo when she became famous
Abby in a podcast INFRONT OF ALL the girls said she loved jojo but didn't want her there
She was also very mean to jojo and jeslyn many times
Honestly it's toxic that jojo still accosiates with abby so much after all she did to her and the girls
I get having respect but I think jojo should keep her distance as abby has clearly not changed her ways.
People keep trying to justifying abbys teaching methods but there's a difference between constructive criticism and tough love
Compared to being straight up disrespectful
I also feel if Jojo didn't receive the fame she got Abby wouldn't even acknowledge her anymore
Notice how Jojo didn't mention:
Chloe
Clara
Brooke
Paige
Payton
Brynn
Davianna
Cameran
Elliana
Lilliana
Areana
Peyton
Alexus
She mentioned:
Maddie
Kenzie
Nia
Kalani
Kendall
Maddie is just gorgeous!!
She should thank Abby For this success
She did many times. However. Abby wanted a piece of Maddy’s income. Abby is mad that Maddy did not take her on the journey of success with her. We don’t really know what happened behind closed sores. But if all of the original members are speaking with Abby. Then something must of happened that we did not see.
She adored maddie
6 years 😍.
jojo is so mature, strong, and professional, its crazy
And so is Maddie just because you cut toxic people out of your life does not mean you’re not strong and professional and mature
Gorgeous Maddie ♥️
Jojo said it very well that she doesn't forget where she came from and to me that makes her the most humble and respectful towards Abby. I've always respected Jojo and she in my opinion has come out on top of the rest of the girls.
Jojo S is such a COOL solid chill person
This is what i mean even after it all shes still greatful
Abby was abusive. Maddie owes her nothing and I'm glad she left, went no-contact, and feels zero guilt. Anyone else's two cents on how they think she should have handled it is completely irrelevant.