The Plane That Was Destined To Crash | Pakistan International Airlines Flight 661
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This is the story of Pakistan international airlines flight 661. On the 7th of december 2016 an ATR 42-500 was flying from chitral airport to islamabad in pakistan. Todays flight would have one captain and two first officers and 42 passengers on board. One of the first officers was being trained on this route. The plane took off from Chitral at 10:38 am the first officer was the one at the controls. The plane climbed albeit a bit slowly the Atr 42 usually climbed at 160 knots but today it was lagging a bit behind at 145 knots. At 10:45 am the plane levelled off at 13,500 feet and the crew and the passengers settled in for the journey. As the plane cruised the captain took over flying duties from the first officer.
As the plane cruised at 186 knots at 13,500 feet the captain started to make an announcement at 11:04 am, he was interrupted by a warning, A pec or propeller electronic control- 1 warning for the left hand engine appeared. The first officer lets the captain know and the fault was acknowledged by the captain. The captain called for the QRH or the quick reference handbook and summoned an engineer who was a passenger on this flight as the pilots did this they also brought back power on the left hand engine the plane slowed down to 146 knots. They were trying to reset the Propeller electronic controller, they much like us hoped that turning it off and then turning it back on again would solve the issue. But it didn't the captain wanted to do the checklist to reset the PEC again. They tried resetting the PEC 3 times with no luck. By 11:10 am the engineer joined the discussion in the cockpit. The right hand engine was holding steady at 82% but the left hand engine was all over the place. At first it was around 82% then it dropped to 62% then it climbed to 69%. It was as if the left hand engine had a mind of its own.
At 11:10 am a sound was heard from the left hand engine and torque from the left hand engine dropped to 0. The left hand engine had failed. The captain said “engine gone”, the pilots carried out the single engine operating procedure and as a part of that the captain pulled back power on both engines. The propeller speed of engine number 1 or NP-1 was quite high it was at 102%, this caused some asymmetric drag on the left side of the plane, sure when you lose an engine you expect the broken engine to produce some drag but the drag by this engine was well beyond what anyone had expected, three times as much to be precise, the autopilot held the plane.. For now. The condition lever was moved to the fuel shut off position. The propeller speed started to drop and it was down to less than 30%, the captain increased power on the left hand engine. At 11:11 am The crew wanted a lower altitude and they put out a mayday call. The propeller speed for engine number one was at 25% as expected. But it didnt stay there. Soon it started to rise soon it was at about 125%, the rise in the speed of the number one propeller went unnoticed, they only noticed it when they picked on the noise from engine number 1. Soon after that the autopilot disengaged. The captain struggled to keep the plane under control. The plane at this point was close to a stall, The speed had dropped to 127 knots and they were descending. The plane turned left as it lost altitude and airspeed. The captain was trying his best to turn the plane to the right but it was stuck in this left turn. The stall warning came on again and the stick shaker activated. The crew were confused; they tried to feather the left engine and maybe they even attempted a restart. The power on engine number 2 was increased and the captain commanded right rudder right as the speed on the engine one propeller dropped. Without the drag from the left engine forcing them into a left hand turn the plane was now in a right turn and the plane stalled. The plane was uncontrollable at this point - Věda a technologie
Imagine the terror of those passengers while the pilots struggled with the plane. Watching the mountains coming closer and closer
“Oh hey look its the mountains.. why is it getting close- OOHHH GOOODDD-“
Dad look a mountain goat near the plane window!
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@@basicallystupid7080 bruh lol
@@cinnow it’s Pakistan. The mountain goat may be in the seat next to you or the overhead luggage bin
I love your honesty about the limitations of your knowledge.
Admitting to one's limitations is a strength, not a weakness.
Another great video, a complex incident well summarized, I think.
and i'm thankful for finding this comment.
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Really appreciate AND RESPECT him🙇🏽 for the sincerity and humility with which he conveyed it.
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It shows ..that it came from his heart.
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and thank YOU for aclnowledging it too.
I too wanted to say something similar, the first thing after the video ended.
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Glad that you did!
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Venu (Venugopal)
from the sparsely populated Bharat wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhārat_Gaṇarājya
@@sailaab Bharat has nearly 1 billion people... That is dense, not sparse.
It means that he's learning, or at least wants to learn. Very un-American.
Alukuhito yes but not all Americans, we are not all jerks!
It's a breathe of fresh air to see people that dont mind saying they dont know enough, to have an opinion or detailed analysis. Truly the mark of an intelligent and honest person.
The Captain who died had a CZcams channel were he constantly uploaded videos of Takeoffs and landings at Chitral.
What was his channel?
@@danysmith1451 I don't remember. I'll search and post the link here
@@syedbilalrashid2304 so sad to see this. Seemed like a great guy
@@danysmith1451 he was a seasoned pilot. They initially labelled it as pilot error. But pressure from media and others forced them to reinvestigate it
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi Raji'un
To God Almighty we belong And to Him is our return.
Whether it comes in the form of age, sickness, disease or accident, those who understand know it is but a pretense for ONLY guarantee in life - death. May Allah SWT make our day of demise the most pleasant day of our life! Ameen!
A Pakistani friend once told me PIA stands for "Please inform Allah."
🚻🚾🚽🧻🚻🚾shut up
This "name" was already used in the 80's when I lived there.
Bitch really? 😭
Bro thats wrong please do not tell it to anyone else.. PIA stands for pakistan international airlines. ..simple,
@@pmpanda658 So which is worse in your opinion: PIA's safety record or an unwoke joke I heard from--let me repeat--a Pakistani friend?
Your episodes are so informative and simple. No annoying music and really exciting.
yup, unlike "certain" air crash investigation channel
Dumb alot of people died and you care about trash?Dumb
@@AlanIsMyNameOFC ?
@@AlanIsMyNameOFC that wasn't his mistake
@@chootanf “and 205 people died as the plane banked as it’d enter a nose dive as it disintegrated, engines flying off, elevator and tail wing being ripped off as the wing caught on fire exploding in air as people burned to death in air as windows exploded off. Flight 69 *(hehe)* slammed into the ATC tower killing 100+ people, approximately 2,512 people died on ground in the hotel room as the ATC tower top slammed into a hotel while the burning fuselage hit the left terminal..”
*dun dun dundaaaaaan 💃🕺🕺💃 “Its Brighter Here!”*
It was criminal negligence on part of PIA to allow that plane to flight, multiple faults had already been detected in that model of aircraft and yet they continued to operate it. Political appointments to the highest order in PIA like every other public institution in Pakistan have made quality procedures a thing of the past and are no longer actively pursued or held up
Pak me pvt airlines nahi hai kya ???
@@agneyfernandes yes there are many pvt airlines in Pakistan. Serene Air, Airblue, Air Sial, Shaheen Air
Yes it's a crime if a fault detected in maintaince , it has to be fixed at any cost or else don't allow the flight. I hope Pakistan government focus on these issues rather than insulting India and funding terrorist
Pakistan zibdabagh
Madarchood, go fix slums in your country and lack of ability of handle pandemics like covid.
This crash also claimed the life of Pakistan's one the most famous Singers turned Cleric, Junaid Jamshed along with his wife. Such a sad day it was for the whole nation.
Why does a country with a begging bowl is having flights ? You guys dont have enough to feed your citizens yet you need an airlines ?
Who’s rattled your cage, you horrible person.
@@manimalik6505 there is no cage in my country probably you were born in one.. and sometime the truth hits hard..pakistan is a country with begging bowl
@@paganmin8557 Have you even been to Pakistan.
@@titan4110 I've been there. What a disgusting country
To be honest, your investigation is very appreciated.
Feel bad for this crew, the deck was definitely stacked against them
I used to be an Aircraft Mechanic and I had a powerplant licence. I remember the icing issues that the ATR 42 suffered and was happy when they were resolved. This was an accident that was just waiting to happen. Faulty maintenance has cost many lives.
And that’s why it is important to follow the correct maintenance procedures as well as troubleshoot so the aircraft can be maintained properly and the defects can be eradicated
I must say, I really appreciate your humility in asking those who work with the planes in question to correct any errors, so you don't make them again going forward . That is the essence of crash investigation as well, of course, making things better by learning from mistakes, and failure points. Just so refreshing when some channels might say eff off to see someone so open to constructive criticism.
Nice to see an increase in vid quality, the flight simulation is an improvement from previous vids.
Thanks!!
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation no problem man, looking forward to your future uploads. Keep up the good work 👍
ohhhhh laddie I was there. It was back in the days of the Queen mum when she gave all the airplanes to the children. we were in that plane. we ate the lefthand engine and had some asometric drag for dessert. It's ok my lad. the stick shaker.
These kinds of comments, for a growing CZcams channel, are so important 🙌🏾
Except he overdid it - adding various animations of flight that have nothing to do with what happened.
Thank you...great improvement in your videos and the explanation on this was handled well and clearly for non engineers. You're getting better and better!
Your presentation is very good. As an ATR instructor with an interest in aviation safety, I have read the accident report. The cause of this accident is very complex; the odds of getting three failures in the same engine is incredibly small. You managed to explain it well.
Thanks! I was worried that I would mess up something
A question for you pls; why did the pilot/captain not abort the flight during the incident early and return back to the airport it took off from? Why continue on his flight plan?
@@4evertrue830 Hi, from what I understood, the plane was halfway from either airport, The plane has to go over Hindu kush range at Lawari with peaks over 12,000ft. The plane had already crossed the range and was going over the foothills. The plane was having trouble climbing it wouldn't have made over the range. Had it crossed the last mountain where it crashed, it would have entered a flat plain land.
Besides, Islamabad Airport is an international airport with all the facilities, while Chitral airport is a small seasonal airport with nothing, not even a refueling station.
A near relative of mine was the first officer. I remember the day like yesterday when I first heard the news on TV that an aircraft coming from Chitral had crashed and I immediately thought about my relative hoping he wasn't on this flight as they only showed the captain's name and picture and not of the first officer. Few minutes later I got the messages from other family members confirming he was on this ill-fated flight.
you should seek compensation from PIA
From God we come, to Him we return.
May his soul rest in peace.
PEC fault on a ATR in fairly common, usually on the ground the reset does the job usually after start sequence due to small micro circuit cuts on the aircraft.
I have heard of PEC failing in flight too but it’s manageable manually, in this case the plane was pretty much domed due to the various other problems it had which could not have been controlled from the flight deck. The prop not feathering produces so much drag on Pratt Witney engines that it won’t let the ATR plane climb even at lower altitudes. Flying this in the simulator with engine failure and without Auto Feather, it’s a very big deal as it’s close to impossible for the plane to climb and control. There is whole Emergency briefing that dictates manual feathering of the engine before anything else can be carried out otherwise the plane will bank, yaw uncontrollably, loose all the energy, stall and fall!!
You seem to be in the know. Is the propeller motor hydraulic since the OSG seem to bleed off oil to return?
If the blades seized in 0 pitch (100 percent drag, 0 percent thrust), that makes the plane unflyable from what I understand. Can't you just install some form explosive to sever the blade hub from the engine should this situation occur? Hydraulics is incredibly sensitive to any debris so there are many things that could potentially lock the pitch of the blades.
Yes the props move via hydraulic pressure and counter weights on the prop root from windmilling to feathered, only pilots who fly on the line know how serious a unfeathered prop can be, it’s like have a parachute on the back in the aircaft
Thank you Pilot.Explorer and other participants in this thread to share your knowledge.
is a controlled 'crash' possible in an ATR, without feathering the inop engine? Ie. a better situation that just slamming into a mountainside (somewhat controlled landing on the valley floor).
Couldn't it be made that if oil pressure fails, the blades default to a feathered state?
Just want to say I love your vids and it's been great following along because you've made some good progress with the quality of them too. Keep up the great work!
Planes are so versatile, able to fly through turbulence and halfway around the world, yet one or two broken parts can cause disasters
1 million pieces
Sometimes i think we all need to sit under tree stare into the sky
Oh my GOD IF MACHIAVELLI,COOK,MAGELLAN CAN SEE US NOW.1 million little pieces,Wrights bro say hello
And always at least 1 broken part was due to greed or incompetence
@@Jabarri74 sounded like shortcut and incompetence without care.
@@golfmaniac007 at any timespan and part
Very well made, appreciate the effort that went into the making of this video!
Glad you liked it 💕
Mini Air Crash Investigation for real I would watch this on real tv. Get a deal from somewhere and get some funding
@@patjohn775 Nooooooo!!!! Not TV!!! Lol. Somewhat dramatic, I know. But seriously. Mini does such a good job of researching these events and providing facts of the incident and causes in a non biased very concise presentation. He breaks everything down in a manner that anyone can understand even if they are not a pilot and don’t understand how airplanes work. I’m concerned that producers would ruin his work and shift the focus to the “drama” and butcher (they call it editing) his presentations somehow into a reality TV abomination and hour long, but somehow have less content the way they dilute any show with a modicum of actual tangible information in them. I do agree that he needs more compensation and recognition for the sheer amount of time and effort invested in his excellent work. Could you imagine what the history channel would do to something this good? They would attribute everything without a clear cut causation to fucking aliens!!
@@matthewl67 Yes! Spot on, history channel and National Geographics also, claiming sea monsters as the cause of missing airplanes in the Bermuda Triangle. ( LOL) Rather than a lack of landmarks, as everything looks the same over an ocean. A deviation in unexpected IMC with unknown winds and unknown wind correction angle, whilst navigating by dead reckoning over an ocean, was a definite way to get lost and run out of fuel. Back then there were no Gps or meteorological satellites to determine winds aloft or surface winds over the ocean, which means an attempted rescue would be searching in a completely different area and would also risk getting lost. Add to all of this, compass errors and magnetic deviations, as flying by a compass would have been the only means of direction finding over an open ocean.
Thank you for making these videos. As others already said you strike a good balance in your presentation as well as in your choice of topics.
As I can be rather picky about videos such as yours I especially appreciate the attention to detail and your factual approach. I read parts of the official investigation reports and you summarized the key points very well and precise. Good luck with your channel!
I personally would LOVE to see this crash featured in Air Crash Investigations. I think it would be a very interesting episode.
Just recently found your channel and I really appreciate the depth and fairness in your videos. I'm an aircraft mechanic and I like to learn about every air crash so I can do my part to help prevent the next one and your videos are a really great help for me to do that and I greatly appreciate all your effort. It's entertaining and informative, but I hope you also understand you're genuinely helping prevent any more of these accidents, even if only to a small degree.
Short, simple, informative, straight to the point, no overly dramatic drama. Love your videos mate you've replaced Air Crash Investigation as my prime air crash info source
Moral of the story is Don’t fly on Airlines that don’t maintain their planes.
It’s sad that PIA is not a cheap airline but still they try to cut corners and don’t invest in buying new planes or at least maintain their planes properly.
TSB’s are very important in Aviation.
How do you know if an airline does not service their fleet regularly? Is their a site online or a bulletin that provides such info to anyone worldwide? Just asking.
just use flightradar. you’ll see them go to the hangars for service and maintenance at karachi
@@4evertrue830 just don't fly in Pakistan airlines mate, there pilots are not even well trained to anticipate with harsh weather conditions.
in the video it said that the plain was serviced 93 hours before that
PIA is a national embarrassment. I no longer fly on PIA. Anyone that does has a death wish.
I really appreciate your commentary. I can't always watch another channel because they play music & I have to read the text. I'm busy sometimes so this is very helpful.👍
You are of an attitude about yourself that contributes to your continuing to LEARN what you don´t know and to in turn teach others. Those that ¨know it all¨ will stop learning and be poor teachers. A very fine video. Keep it up.
Stumbled on your channel by chance and after watching this video, Subscribed right away. Great video!
Wow definitely as good a channel as the flight channel and that is saying something. Just watched and subbed. Great work! Love the in depth commentary at the end!
I like the simulation. That was a hard one to explain but you did a good job. Thank you.
I very recently discovered your channel and subscribed. What is so very appealing is the narrative of just the facts. I'm not saying lives don't matter but I like hearing what happened and what went wrong without the time consuming sensationalism of the human aspect.
Thank you for the great effort to preparing this video report and posting here. :)
Great job as always!
There was a legend aboard that flight.
Junaid Jamshed
may he rest in paradise ameen
@MURU GAMING he wasnt on a Boeing
YESS
WHO?
@@musicnerd72 Junaid Jamshed
Blades were recommended to be replaced at 10k hours. This failed at 10,094. Do manufacturers leave their guidelines so close to the point of failure?
I would have thought they’d err on the side of caution and recommend replacement at least a thousand or so hours before they’re expected to fail.
That must have been a very premature failure (probably due to poor maintenance on the part of the airline) as there's no way any engineer worth his salt would leave a factor of safety that tiny, it's not even 1%!
Thank you!!! I had been unable to fall asleep for weeks. I was out cold within the first 3 min of this video. Kudos Sir!
You do a phenomenal job on these.
There seems to be an inerrant problem with the ATR 42 & 72 engines, numerous reports of engine problems over the years have led to many incidents. I would not fly on any regional Turbo prop aircraft especially in countries where money is not available for proper maintenance. Back in 2006 I was in Iran waiting for a flight from Mashhad to the old Tehran International known as Maher Abad, our flight was to be on a TU154 there was a problem with one of the engines that they were trying to fix. Four hours went by when they announced boarding, I refused to board the plane as I had a bad feeling about the plane. Iran Air put us on a Fokker 100. Anyway a few days after our return to the UK I heard that the TU154 we were due to fly on had crashed near Shiraz.
Great intuition or good use of intelligence. Developing countries have an issue of " Its ok " mindset.
Lol going to fly in an atr72-600 tomorrow hopefully it won’t crash.
Good call, man. I've never been in a position of deciding to refuse to board. You stuck to your guns and did what needed to be done. Props. (no pun intended).
@@kaustubhsingh16 did you survive? Say nothing if you didnt.
Liked and subscribed! I really appreciate your excellent videos! You have a great way about you and your awesome story lines... Great work! Thank you!
Great video mate :)
Job well done... in this short time you could summarise almost all the aspects of the crash investigation.... thumbs up... subscribed ... will go through all your videos and watch the next episodes ... highly appreciated...
I subscribed based on this video alone .. Well done 👍
I love the new plane SIM stuff!
I LOVE your style of narration. It's made you my fave accident investigation channel.
Great video! I appreciate the work
I found this easy to follow despite the complexity. The only improvement would be to leave the diagrams and bulletins up longer so that we could read and digest them.
So sad for this crew, they did an amazing job and had the great idea to call in the engineer, but the game was stacked against them from the start
Thank you very much for this very detailled analysis of this sad crash!
You have a very clear voice and your informative narration with diagrams is much appreciated.
I'd like to see you do a preliminary analysis on SJ182. Then update when the investigators release their report
Mini Air Crash Investigation: Thank you for the informative video, may all those perished, rest in eternal peace, Amen
Love the detail on your channel
He’s definitely has gotten better. Thanks friend.
Was there anything that WASN'T wrong with the plane? The tray tables, maybe?
Gum underneath
@@obsoleteprofessor2034 It figures. ;-)
On my FlyDubai flight from Dubai to Kilimanjaro, even the tray table was broken...
@@SF-fb6lv Oh, man. Not good.
When the OSG failed it affected the PVM and it's EHV, which flummoxed the PIC and PNF until the plane was SOL.
WTF?
Excellent channel. I subbed!
Thanks for that. Can’t say I followed it all as there was so much to take in but you did a great job nonetheless 👍
I think a very similar failure happened in the USA. I just remember that the feathering mechanism of the prop failed and the plane was uncontollable. A former NASA astronaut was amongst the passengers. They all perished.
Very well presented video and supporting simulation. I can only add that compromise on safety standards and lack of professional attitude led to that tragedy which could have been avoided. Pia engineering is one of the oldest and largest in the region yet they failed to implement the safety standards in its letter and spirit. I really hope that they have started addressing such issues as they just passed the IOSA safety audit
well explained and a fairly complex topic. Poor guys could not have known what they had coming but the ending was sort of inevitable considering the mountainous terrain. Thanks for another good episode.
Great video as usual, thanks 😊
Just depressed that I got to find this channel any sooner!
Love your content!
i still remember seeing the news of this crash... i was so sad to hear it
I have 25 years of public/civil service under my belt. This started off as one of the most complete investigations/reports I have ever heard/read.
Having said that, I would like to see/hear about all maintenance requests and/or pilot complaints for maybe, five years leading up to the incident (if more or earlier maintenance requests were available, I would probably peruse them as well). Names of everyone having done maintenance during those said dates; and the disposition/changes made, to either parts or protocol that occurred in the aftermath and subsequent investigation(s)and official report(s).
This video definitely deserves a follow-up.
Maybe interviews with pertinent witnesses.
Hour-long documentary? CVR and ATC recordings?
Great work, i am subscribing ringing the bell.
Just found this amazing channel. Keep up the great work bud. These explanations are perfect for my simple mind.
We lost great souls in the crash. Generations in the country cannot forget Junaid Jamshed.
Junaid a HERO
In fight for the mountain peaks
i must go take a look
Seemed to be doomed for that ending ...RIP to all passengers & that crew who seemingly couldn’t have done much more to avoid that endless jog. RIP
Great explanation. Great summary. Thank-you.
In all honesty, I wasn't understanding your technical explanations tonight! ? What soothes me though is the fact that I've had a drink and a smokes, and the fact you said it's one of the most complex incidents you have tried to summarize .... Thanks for this video and I'm looking forwards to the next one..
rip junaid jamshed and other 49 people onboard
Beloved junaid jamshed wad on this plane !
May Allah grant him jannah !
I love your videos because of the fact that you actually research.
Very good explanation of this crash. I will def look at more of your videos
A simplification of the events ! PIA was asked to cease ops . Might be the best solution . Very good video and very professional .
Would any of you say that they might've been able to land somewhat safely had they not been in mountainous terrain?
I feel like they might've stood a slightly bigger chance if the area surrounding them had been flat, but sadly, the odds were really against them. :(
I ask because I'm not really an expert. What I've come to know about aviation is all thanks to videos like these!
Rest in peace, everyone aboard.
Great video! Superb.
Junaid Jamshed Was In This Aircraft 🥺💔 May Allah Give Jannah To All The People Who Died In The Crash Ameen Suma Ameen
Now I know why the PIA is banned in so many countries.
Tea was very nice
@@timduncan9696 so were those f16's
@@timduncan9696 and so was Bangladesh 😂😂😂
Mayank Kumar ok you got me that was a good one
@@timduncan9696 shit😂😂. Just a joke. No offense.
That's an airline that taught 30 other airlines including Emirates and Saudia, how to fly, and in the meanwhile was reigned down by cultural incompetence itself, the last being in 2020.
30 is a big number if true, but fortunately they didn't learn from PIA how to slaughter a goat on the tarmac for good luck, because that would have been ridiculous
@@Ducktility lmao 🤣
Much better quality video compared to your earlier ones, with footage of planes landing and taking off, on constant loop.
Just found this channel yet already I like it more than any other air crash investigation yt channels :D
The lack of maintenance oversight is typical of PIA and other carriers with little government mandated requirements for suggested repairs from the manufacturer. Also you can see that these were airplane operators not pilots.. (Typical of PIA. See the PIA crash 8303. Failing to put the landing gear down???) If they flew by AQP standards they would not have stalled the plane. They would have attempted to put the plane down. Great job in describing this event!
Junaid Jamshed singer and preacher also killed with his wife in this crash,it was very sad millions of people loved him .
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thank You!
Posting on...
My phone crashed while watching this. I had to turn the phone off and on a few times to reset it.
But seriously, a good video and RIP to the crew and passengers of this unfortunate incident.
Gorgeous graphics and good narration! I didn’t even care that I’m a total girl when it comes to mechanics.
Girls can be great at mechanics.
What does gender have to do with anything? Lol
Uhm girl? There are world renowned female mechanics and engineers
Thanks for the informative video.
I came back on the same plane from Chitral to Islamabad with mother and siblings 2 weeks before the crash, this plane was really fucked up, stayed on the runway for so long, PIA almost cancelled the flight due to some unknown technical fault and then decided to fly and at the moment I turned to my mother and said if I wasn't with you guys I would have gotten off right now coz this feels wrong and during the flight, looking out the window I was amazed as to how did that plane edure air friction and not come apart, the sound the wings and engine were making was not normal. 2 weeks later, saw it on the news and I took another week to accept that the same flight me and my family took crashed, the feeling was bloody weird, gave me chills
WOW!
Well atleast you were in an air blue. Them shits will warp shape because of a light breeze
Very good, except the continued display of animated flight segments that are totally unrelated to the accident with the recitation of investigation results are very distracting. You interspersed diagrams of failed parts (relevant) with a plane bouncing on the runway during landing (this plane crashed into a mountain). Don't use filler like that - it detracts from the product.
The problem i see with this flight is more about pilot pressure to complete the flight regardless of circumstances. On climb out, they only reached a max speed of 145 knots; just 25 knots over their minimum? That's the point I would have started looking for a landing site and getting that plane on the ground safely. Then you add the fact they didn't feather and shut down that engine at the first sign of a pitch alarm? That's problematic. Let alone the fact that they were allowing autopilot to fly the plane when there were obvious mechanical problems that the autopilot may not have been able to account for.
In this situation the saying, "Its better to be alive and embarrassed, then dead."
And by that, I mean, at any time after seeing just that 25 knot window to the planes stall speed they could have turned around.. but chose to continue.
@Kevin Payne
I would just like to add the following;
Oftentimes in these situations there are "other unknown" pre-existing maintenance issues which the airline will try to hide either from accident investigators or from civil lawsuit attorneys, but was a serious issue for the pilots. Yet it never gets to the knowledge of the general public. 2) It is so easy to armchair quarterback in the comfort of a quiet room. Where there are no blaring bells and loud sounds, and no impending fear of doom. In that emergency situation where you don't have control of the aircraft and you are literally fighting for your life, you need extra time to think of something new, when what you have been trained to do is not working or correcting the situation.
I love this channel
I feel so sorry for the all the human beings who died in this horrible plane accident. I only can imagine the horror they went through watching tragedy to unfold right before their eyes. Poor maintenance to those planes operating in Pakistan and countries like that, caused the deaths of those innocent people. This was murder in disguise. MAY ALL THEIR SOULS REST IN GOD'S HANDS. Amen.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Jeff Rachel I knew someone would beat me to that 😄
@@ted.angell7609 lol
I always wonder, how you can read what has happened from the parts left over after a crash.
how do you know what's impact damage and what was broken before the crash?
I can't even tell you in which way these investigators are amazing, because I can't comprehend how this works :-P
You can actually tell if something broke off during flight or if it's impact damage there is some great documentaries here on CZcams explaining how that's done.
In principle, that's what you do your entire life: draw conclusions from previous experiences that include countless tests in controlled conditions. That's how it works.
@@AviationNut Pls provide links to these documentaries.
Ur video had so much information. I left the ads to finish playing. 😉
That would be a horrible situation for any PIC to deal with. Thank you for the sharing.
I’m an ATP pilot. Your understanding and presentation was actually good. Is the video an example of PIA landings?? I’d be fired if I bounced a plane that bad lol
The video is an example of my bad simulator skills 😂
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation American...
‘Climbed to 69%’ Nice
Nice
I'm impressed by your impartiality; by your not making "a drama out of a crisis"; and admission that you're analysis may be flawed so asking for additional information - corroborative or otherwise - again to make the content more "educational" and not "entertaining".
This is a topic outside my normal range but it is worthy of support - hence my like and sub.
Thanks for this meritorious video.
Very good content, instant sub.