Flash flooding in Flagstaff keeps hitting same neighborhoods over and over again

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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2021
  • ABC15 photojournalist Danny Bavaro and reporter Nicole Grigg were in Flagstaff on Tuesday to go along with a FEMA representative and two state officials who work with the Department of Emergency Management Affairs who were on site for a pre-damage assessment of July’s flash flood.
    More about the flooding: www.abc15.com/news/region-nor...

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  • @annspires8380
    @annspires8380 Před 2 lety +488

    The question to be answered is how did the original developers get permits to build residential housing in a wash?!

    • @lulielawry
      @lulielawry Před 2 lety +43

      easy>>$$$$$$$

    • @Marlene-Ferreira
      @Marlene-Ferreira Před 2 lety +22

      @@lulielawry PROBABLY WITH A BOTTLE OF RUM OR BRANDY AND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS... WE CALL THE TEA POTS - ONE HAND IN THE FRONT & THE OTHER AT THE BACK (THE BACK ONE GETS THE BRIBES OR PAYOFFS) REALLY SAD ♥️♥️♥️🌟♥️♥️♥️🌟♥️♥️♥️

    • @texasyankee1013
      @texasyankee1013 Před 2 lety +15

      You see it all the time in AZ.

    • @kathykaura7219
      @kathykaura7219 Před 2 lety +17

      Contractors in Turkey build in washes all the time. 😒

    • @queenmommie8295
      @queenmommie8295 Před 2 lety +15

      How many black and native American people were murdered before they pushed them off of this land??? God is telling you get off of the land. APTTMHY HalleluYah May The King 👑👑👑 Reign FOREVER ♾️.

  • @larryjoy2446
    @larryjoy2446 Před 2 lety +140

    now that's good reporting,kudos to the news crew for staying onsite

    • @MaryOKC
      @MaryOKC Před 2 lety +5

      It’s goes to show how quickly the waters built up to flood. I think the only thing that can be done is for the county to purchase these home or move them.

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards Před 2 lety +1

      They didn't plans on staying. They've been forced to stay because that flash flood was coming.
      That was just good timing.

    • @andrewmedanich2844
      @andrewmedanich2844 Před 2 lety

      Right like they legit caught the very thing they were covering.

  • @LyrxLovesNature
    @LyrxLovesNature Před 2 lety +449

    The first thing my dad did when looking at houses was to make sure they weren't in a flood plain.

    • @sants602
      @sants602 Před 2 lety +15

      Smart man

    • @kathleensmith7022
      @kathleensmith7022 Před 2 lety +46

      My father was a damn engineer with the bureau of reclamation and he also gave me the same advice and we have never bought a home that wasn’t above the flood stage of the 100 year mark. But why oh why did the county board of supervisors allow home building in the flood prone areas? Common sense or lack of sense starts at the top.

    • @oldkayakdude
      @oldkayakdude Před 2 lety +14

      Just wait for all the people in Florida who will get flooded out by the ocean as the seas rise from global warming.

    • @Eric-lx8hp
      @Eric-lx8hp Před 2 lety +5

      Don't forget tornado alley

    • @itsthinking
      @itsthinking Před 2 lety +12

      My Fiancees dad did the same thing. I'm willing to admit, I was kinda a dumbass and made fun of him for being so gung ho about it but I now realize he was right.

  • @alanrobinson4318
    @alanrobinson4318 Před 2 lety +216

    Whether it's forest fires, rock/dirt slides/slumping, floods, etc. The fact that people build in incompatible places still amazes me. The developers, whose greed knows no bounds, create these issues. Just because that "cute little valley" looks perfect for a housing tract, doesn't mean that , geologically, you should build there. There are SO many more reasons not to build places, that are ignored, or blatantly disregarded, or corruptly circumvented.

    • @NinjaBooKitty
      @NinjaBooKitty Před 2 lety +4

      People keep spawning, they keep needing housing.

    • @alanrobinson4318
      @alanrobinson4318 Před 2 lety +13

      @@NinjaBooKitty Rrriiiight ....
      They're building a 23,000 home housing tract in Henderson, NV.. A good portion of it is built on a "reclaimed" section of land that was unlined settling ponds for a chemical plant. Perclorates and God knows what were dumped there for 40 years. There are two pumping stations drawing ground water out, treating it, and pumping it back, before it reaches the lake. The location is prime for that kind of build, but, 3 contractors went bust trying to decontaminate the soil. That housing tract is called "Cadence".
      Would you like to buy a house there, especially if you're raising small children ? Would you trust that the paperwork saying it's safe now will still be valid in 5, or 10, years ? The absolute greed of developers who push for expansion in unsuitable areas is a documented fact.
      So ...... That flippant reply of yours shows you haven't done your homework.

    • @davyjones3371
      @davyjones3371 Před 2 lety +2

      Its can be done with the proper infrastructure the foundation required has to be provided first these are known truths your right in your judgment

    • @christopherlee5902
      @christopherlee5902 Před 2 lety +5

      I don’t have compassion for the choices ppl have made to live in such areas that become a problem from storms. I mean when ppl want to live where there’s runoffs then it on you. If ppl want to live near the ocean where tropical storms/hurricanes are prime to happen then its on you. If you want to live near a body of water that can be flooded then again its on you. No one is a victim in this video, they chose this path and way of living so it’s their reward of their own choices.

    • @alanrobinson4318
      @alanrobinson4318 Před 2 lety +3

      @@christopherlee5902 If you look at most, who go looking for a house, they are ignorant as to the specifics of geological dangers. That fact, coupled with overly aggressive marketing/advertising by greedy deveolpers, who never disclose those facts creates those, and I hate to say it, "victims". The developers usually make bank and run. This kind of thing has been going on for hundreds of years. Think "The Emperors New Clothes". All who buy a home should research the area they are interested in. Yet, how many are bedazzled by that, "Dream Home", and lose sight of the total picture.

  • @capitanothegreat3994
    @capitanothegreat3994 Před 2 lety +109

    Building houses were you're NOT suppose to. To solve that problem that neighborhood needs $$$Tens of Millions Dollars of Federal Funding to make it liveable, The Easiest and Cheapest Solution is to Relocate them and let NATURE claim back the land.

    • @newvilla8115
      @newvilla8115 Před 2 lety +6

      I am sorry but they CHOOSE to live away from everybody else and tax payers should NOT pay for their decisions.

    • @capitanothegreat3994
      @capitanothegreat3994 Před 2 lety

      @@newvilla8115 true

    • @brendaann727
      @brendaann727 Před 2 lety +9

      If this area was known to be a flood plain, whoever gave permission to develope this land for housing & those who sold it to these people are at fault, they should be held accountable.

    • @timk.3286
      @timk.3286 Před 2 lety +1

      building houses where, not were, you're NOT suppose to. obviously it was compatible at one point. its not like they have been dealing with this issue for a decade. its piss poor infrastructure funding and a lack of urgency by the county and state officials who live comfortably away from these areas.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Před 2 lety

      I agree. They will either have to restructure the entire area to redirect the flood waters away from these guys or relocate their homes.

  • @militaryveteran6185
    @militaryveteran6185 Před 2 lety +58

    This is what happens when greedy contractors & real estate people build homes in flood paths & sell them to idiots that don't know any better! Don't buy a home in a wash!

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner Před 2 lety +4

      Spruce Wash was at best no more than a creek...I don't think that Spruce Wash ever produced a flood like this in all of recorded Flagstaff history. So it was till the Museum Fire caused by humans clearing out the water shed where the fire later started due to their work. Any home near a mountain, is vulnerable to floods, especially when trees are cleared by a forest fire.

    • @JS-jr4dq
      @JS-jr4dq Před 2 lety +6

      @Google sucks trees slow the flow, their leaves on the ground and other organic matter absorb the water. The flow changed and gained speed, also pickups more sediment as it travels thru the fire ravaged area. So yes, fire can change how water flows and if an area floods.

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner Před 2 lety +2

      @@JS-jr4dq Absolutely correct. I have attempted to put up a PDF link on this but it CZcams will not allow it. Just google "Hydrology and Trees" and you will find the PDF and numerous other abstracts on how Trees prevent flooding.

  • @vgslife9640
    @vgslife9640 Před 2 lety +236

    he said they cant fix private property but they sure can repossess your home if you don't pay your taxes. smh fix the problem to help the people.

    • @citycity3660
      @citycity3660 Před 2 lety +8

      Excellent journalistic work, such professionals no longer exist. And I wonder why the city doesn't repair the canals. They obviously have to do something! There is no excuse to justify them.

    • @queenmommie8295
      @queenmommie8295 Před 2 lety +5

      Get off of the land. God doesn't want you there. He is telling you get off of the lands. APTTMHY

    • @capitanothegreat3994
      @capitanothegreat3994 Před 2 lety +9

      $$ Tens of Millions of Dollars need to fix a small Neighborhood built on a Flood Plain. Easiest and Cheapest way is to Relocate them away from Flood Plains and let Mother Nature claim back the Land.

    • @alethia5874
      @alethia5874 Před 2 lety +2

      the great american capitalist system. it's all fun and games until your poor or disaster strikes.

    • @sixfigureskibum
      @sixfigureskibum Před 2 lety

      My federal tax lien disapeered after 10 years.

  • @hilohahoma1547
    @hilohahoma1547 Před 2 lety +157

    I'm a Native person so I'll say it like this, no sane people would CONTINUE to elect other people to make decisions for them about sensible protection for times like these in the SO-CALLED "richest country in the world ", without having consequences for those elected when they don't put at least some effort into helping during dangerous events. Just sayin'.

    • @adamwinters4448
      @adamwinters4448 Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 Před 2 lety +7

      Agreed, this country is just the richest of all the Third World Atrocities created by American greed

    • @EricCanterra
      @EricCanterra Před 2 lety +5

      @@yosquidd242 + Yeah, okay, capitalism is evil, socialism is always the answer. We get it....so does Venezuela.

    • @jonsebastian1366
      @jonsebastian1366 Před 2 lety +8

      Don't mind us, we're just fulfilling ancient prophesy and falling victim to our own greed. Sorry if we take you down with us.

    • @MARKIEBANUNCE
      @MARKIEBANUNCE Před 2 lety +1

      @Some guy I know my vote didn't count. But 80 million votes did.

  • @alasdairblackmore2592
    @alasdairblackmore2592 Před 2 lety +36

    I paused this @0:01 to say ... man, the ignorance / denial etc is strong in Flagstaff !!!
    What do they imagine the words "Don't build on a floodplain" mean to them ?

  • @fatlu1378
    @fatlu1378 Před 2 lety +31

    i looked at real estate in Flagstaff, it's a beautiful area...sorry to hear that these people lost out...i went back there last spring, it is way populated , and i think overbuilt

  • @juanirdag
    @juanirdag Před 2 lety +32

    "Its terrifying!"
    *guy laughing in the back
    "First time?"

    • @miss.fuckyouropinion7062
      @miss.fuckyouropinion7062 Před 2 lety

      he was probably laughing at something else. you can hear was already having a conversation

  • @mialee7488
    @mialee7488 Před 2 lety +24

    It breaks my heart.. these poor people need help ASAP and it’s no way to live. Tragically sad 😔.. prayers 🙏🏼

  • @lillypod1337
    @lillypod1337 Před 2 lety +43

    "We need answers..." LMAO! There is a reason why we don't see any above ground geographic drone footage, we would all clearly see where water once rushed through in the past, and will then probably show up again in the future. This is why it is important to do your research before buying/building a house in a certain location. Don't build/buy in dried up river basins (example in Germany: Ahrweiler)

    • @HashknightGaming
      @HashknightGaming Před 2 lety +2

      I am sure Google earth will have the images you want.

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 Před 2 lety

      If youre getting a good deal thats the reason

  • @learnerm3120
    @learnerm3120 Před 2 lety +19

    That's heart breaking. There has been flooding in many places around the US and the world. It seems to be increasing in both frequency and severity. Have these people considered to moving to a different place? I do not think anyone can win in a war against nature. At some point we just have to concede defeat and move out of nature's way.

  • @NLD987
    @NLD987 Před 2 lety +22

    Why did they build houses inside a riverbed???

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape100 Před 2 lety +25

    Floods are just gravities' way of telling you to move, and gravity is the law.

  • @asdfadfafsdfa
    @asdfadfafsdfa Před 2 lety +13

    People usually fail to take into consideration the location of their home…

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 Před 2 lety +18

    Remember that the fires 🔥 killed the trees and ruined the land so the water 💧 just runs unimpeded

    • @philhammond5908
      @philhammond5908 Před 2 lety +2

      Prescribed burns and cleaning waterways mitigate these risks.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Před 2 lety +1

      Good point! That explains why these guys haven't been dealing with this problem for years - only since 2019.

  • @Reaper81805
    @Reaper81805 Před 2 lety +14

    Here in Cali we're dying for storms like this haven't seen rain in over a year

    • @ridgecrestwack9746
      @ridgecrestwack9746 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah man all the natural sources and springs are all drying up over here too, wish we had a little

    • @anchorpoint3631
      @anchorpoint3631 Před 2 lety +1

      Who cares about Colonfornia?

    • @mrbillnot
      @mrbillnot Před rokem

      @@anchorpoint3631 I can guarantee you that you are accessing the internet right now using something that was mostly designed in California. Do you know where Intel and Apple are located?

  • @cthunter41
    @cthunter41 Před 2 lety +12

    Since 2019? I think I would've packed up and left.

  • @foedspaghetti3290
    @foedspaghetti3290 Před 2 lety +13

    “We need answers”, don’t build on low ground? Really, I am not trying to be unsympathetic but a storm drain seems to be one possibile solution for the time being

  • @Summerdaze8
    @Summerdaze8 Před 2 lety +6

    Her: “It’s terrifying”
    Men in the background: “Hahahaha!”

  • @garyloger9416
    @garyloger9416 Před 2 lety +27

    If this has been happening for years, it's their own fault for staying there.
    Trenches and sea walls. Give the water a path to follow.

    • @lillyess385
      @lillyess385 Před 2 lety +8

      Where are they supposed to go exactly? They are probably still paying mortgages on those houses and the houses are worthless. If anything, the State needs to buy them out and de zone the area for residential and commercial structures.

  • @richarda996
    @richarda996 Před 2 lety +12

    That is a natural draw that drains the rainwater, you keep fighting Mother Nature. I always checked out properly in a thunderstorm to see where the water was going.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Před 2 lety +17

    "The avalanche has already started. It's too late for the pebbles to vote."
    - Kosh

  • @Opalsdad
    @Opalsdad Před 2 lety +13

    Seriously you need answers, HERE YOU go sweetie “you bought a house in a flood zone” duh 🙄

  • @brandogeberbin7563
    @brandogeberbin7563 Před 2 lety +14

    why in the hell are they allowed to be so close to a river or stream? Move the housing away from it!
    Flash flooding, a stream or a creek can't handle that!

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 Před 2 lety

      Not all tree huggers a cognizant of true nature.

    • @sistermaryfrances4480
      @sistermaryfrances4480 Před 2 lety +3

      They built those houses in a wash, it's not a river or creek it's where the water runs down from the Hills when there's excess water that's why you see out in the middle of nowhere in Texas Arizona New Mexico wherever it is dry so when the water does come down from the hills it doesn't wash the freeways away duh! It's been doing that for millions of years, these people don't know any better they move to Arizona and buy a house wherever it's looks nice but when the water comes they start crying how can this be happening here, it's been happening for thousands of years you bought your house in the wrong place!

    • @johnpark888
      @johnpark888 Před 2 lety

      @@sistermaryfrances4480 1,000% rejects

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 Před 2 lety

      @@sistermaryfrances4480 It didn't start happening until a forest fire in 2019 that created a burn scar on the elevated terrain nearby, which totally reshaped the way rainwater flows down the mountain.

  • @clownchaostime3024
    @clownchaostime3024 Před 2 lety +47

    City is going to have to bite the bullet and buy these homes!

    • @cherylemunroe7780
      @cherylemunroe7780 Před 2 lety +3

      Why should the city foot the bill for private property?

    • @clownchaostime3024
      @clownchaostime3024 Před 2 lety +9

      @@cherylemunroe7780 poor planning by city engineers. Nothing gets approved without permits, signatures, and final plans authorizing the project. We had a house 2 streets from me that was flooding during rainfall because it was built too close to a creek. The city bought the house and leveled it. They were responsible because they issued the permit for the house to be built there. Their engineer signed off on the build and gave the thumbs up...and the city ate the cost of the home.$120,000.00

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 Před 2 lety +3

      @@clownchaostime3024 White Flight repercussions

  • @heatherbowlan1961
    @heatherbowlan1961 Před 2 lety +6

    Sending my Love And Prayers to All affected by Henri , I feel scared for you all ! Sending my thoughts ,Love and Prayers fr. Canada . This is terrible ! God Bless you All ❤️🙏🇨🇦

  • @Penessence
    @Penessence Před 2 lety +8

    I always look around for any 100 year flood plains. My dad was on one and didn’t realize it till one day. Always know the limits of the 100 year flood footprint

  • @bellebellebelle5485
    @bellebellebelle5485 Před 2 lety +7

    Come on Mayor Deasy. The roads don’t belong to private citizens. That federal money should be used to mitigate against flooding. Lead with a heart and at least amend a bill that allows you to help with those funds because these citizens pay taxes and those taxes should be able to help

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 Před 2 lety

      You're drunk.

    • @bellebellebelle5485
      @bellebellebelle5485 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tun-tunninc.6492 you’re ignorant and way above your head

    • @doghousejim
      @doghousejim Před 2 lety +1

      @ding dong Never trust a mayor who wears skinny jeans

    • @kRomani-gh4ws
      @kRomani-gh4ws Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@doghousejimthis ain't supposed to happen in republican state 🎉🎉😂💊💊💊💊💊💊☮️🐘🇺🇸

  • @doghousejim
    @doghousejim Před 2 lety +51

    Poor planning, Flagstaff grew so much in the last 25 years that nobody ever thought it out properly.

    • @LisaHumble
      @LisaHumble Před 2 lety

      Where on earth is Flagstaff getting the water if it's grown so much?

    • @joelrausch4824
      @joelrausch4824 Před 2 lety +1

      I thought that was an older neighborhood.

    • @gregknipe8772
      @gregknipe8772 Před 2 lety +6

      check your facts. this flooding is run off from a fairly recent fire. very common. the solution is stabilizing a slope exposed by fire.

    • @iamtheoffenderofall
      @iamtheoffenderofall Před 2 lety +1

      @@LisaHumble Did you not watch the video? It answers your question.

    • @Marlene-Ferreira
      @Marlene-Ferreira Před 2 lety

      UNSCRUPULOUS DEVELOPERS WHO JUST SEE DOLLARS.... THEY DON'T CONSULT THE GROUND LAYOUT GOING BACK 20 YEARS TO SEE WHERE RIVER'S USED TO FLOW BEFORE BUILDING THERE. NATURE TAKES BACK WHAT NATURE HAS LOST.... THE BUYER'S ARE THE ONES THAT SUFFER.....

  • @wandasanders7557
    @wandasanders7557 Před 2 lety +28

    I'm feel so sad for the people of Flagstaff, Arizona whose house 🏠 have been flooded. I hope FEMA will call for a State of an emergency.

    • @user-bb5wq6vw5f
      @user-bb5wq6vw5f Před 2 lety +2

      We are having homes burning in Northern California ,I wish your rain would come to N.Calif. 100s of homes.The United States is in a disasters, Hurricane back east.Pray

    • @seanregehr4921
      @seanregehr4921 Před 2 lety +1

      When FEMA shows up they are not there to help in any way. But it is surely intended to look that way and that is what they will put forward and insist is happening.

    • @kristiblack1428
      @kristiblack1428 Před 2 lety +2

      FEMA has a ridiculously corrupt and horrible track record for helping less than 10% of those that they are allocated billions to help. They are a blatant and International disgrace. How they even still exist and get funded is a Crime Against Humanity! As is Weather Warfare. If the CCP can admit publicly that they can control and/or manipulate the weather at their convenience, why is there a gag order in the "best and Free-est country in the world"? "Cloud seeding with chemicals" is the best we can do here? It's called: Geo-Engineering. It's real. But not really a great policy for any biological lifeforms. Denial is now a new river in Flagstaff, Arizona!

    • @alanmolina9565
      @alanmolina9565 Před 2 lety

      @@caseyschryber1255 so what causes those fires ?

    • @sistermaryfrances4480
      @sistermaryfrances4480 Před 2 lety

      Y'all know that using FEMA is socialism Republicans don't like socialism only if it benefits them

  • @kcleach9312
    @kcleach9312 Před 2 lety +9

    people need to do more than just look at the house and community when buying a house! look at the landscape , is the a river or creek around there look around from a distance, is it in a valley because valleys are made usually from floods !! is the land flat on both sides of the creek/river and then the land gets hilly uneven if so its flooded

  • @randomgayboy9198
    @randomgayboy9198 Před 2 lety +3

    This breaks my heart. I wish them blessings. Idk what else to say.

  • @radiofreealbemuth
    @radiofreealbemuth Před 2 lety +11

    This is why people are moving to Los Angeles and San Diego. They're tired of floods, snow, hurricanes, etc.

    • @southfieldtrill9690
      @southfieldtrill9690 Před 2 lety +2

      If u want to escape Natural Disaster's or the high probability that one could occur move to Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Kentucky.💯

    • @thesdlizlifestyle
      @thesdlizlifestyle Před 2 lety +1

      It floods in San Diego, too.

    • @southfieldtrill9690
      @southfieldtrill9690 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thesdlizlifestyle It can flood anywhere. There is a big difference between a flash flood and a Flood( MIDWESTERN STATES 1993 - NEW ORLEANS after hurricane Katrina 2005 thats a flood and what u actually call flooded.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Před 2 lety +1

      @@southfieldtrill9690 enjoy tornadoes do ya?

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Před 2 lety +1

      @@thesdlizlifestyle not like that!!!

  • @jsebastian72
    @jsebastian72 Před 2 lety +3

    My heart goes out to them, I hope they get the help they need as soon as possible. That is no way to live, to be scared of rain every year..sad. My youngest son lives in Flagstaff, worries me all the time.

  • @TheDoorspook11c
    @TheDoorspook11c Před 2 lety +16

    Looks like nature is building a new river! Starting with the riverbed.

  • @genecoppedge5972
    @genecoppedge5972 Před 2 lety +1

    That’s devastating. If you’ve ever seen a dry wash turn into a raging river in a matter of minutes and the roar it makes, you can understand the heartache when it’s their street thats turning into a river right in front of their homes.

  • @shenanigans-20__20
    @shenanigans-20__20 Před 2 lety +2

    So glad I stayed to watch, rather than my usual youtube click-surfing.
    It's a great report!
    May God send some sunshine into your neighborhoods and into your sad hearts. Enclosed are many prayers and warm HUGS.

  • @wendywhite2642
    @wendywhite2642 Před 2 lety +7

    Wow! So sad and what incredible footage! This should go viral and win an award, everyone should see this.

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 Před 2 lety +1

      We know this is nothing new. Happens through time and memorial wherever White Flight settles.

    • @wendywhite2642
      @wendywhite2642 Před 2 lety +1

      @@yosquidd242 whatever the f*** that means

  • @The-Ordinary-Man
    @The-Ordinary-Man Před 2 lety +4

    I'd love to buy the whole neighborhood and save those folks from their problems.

  • @scootermom1791
    @scootermom1791 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow! I have never seen a flash flood develop IRL. I'm astonished at how quickly it happens. I'm glad the news reporters were there when this happened. Maybe that will put more pressure on FEMA or the state government to help these people find a permanent solution to this nightmare! I can't imagine having to deal with this every day. I feel so bad for them!

  • @bigad21
    @bigad21 Před 2 lety +1

    Heartbreaking when that gentleman said his house is worth zero. He couldn't give it away even if he wanted to. That's a frightening site.

  • @ajett5081
    @ajett5081 Před 2 lety +13

    Remeber this axeum of life. Politicians don't solve problems they create them. Dont't ever forget this.

  • @roblangsdorf8758
    @roblangsdorf8758 Před 2 lety +11

    This story needs some maps to show where the water comes from and how it could be redirect. Otherwise it is just exciting pictures.

  • @sirthesoulmanprophetofgod5076

    I lived in Flagstaff from ‘84 to ‘94 & it has CHANGED! Even back then while studying for my Real Estate license I could not believe the thousands of houses/Apts they were planning to be built…now we see the results of this poor planning. RAIN is not the problem bc it is what makes Flagstaff beautiful…greed & poor planning is.

  • @paulross499
    @paulross499 Před 2 lety +19

    Flash floods are lethal and devastating.

  • @TheGhungFu
    @TheGhungFu Před 2 lety +14

    " ........ gives us a look at what happens when people build in the wrong places ....".... and they'll want my tax dollars to pay for it.

  • @SRSchoner
    @SRSchoner Před 2 lety +12

    I watched this soon to be called "Museum Fire" start on that Sunday on July 21st 2019 as I was going to Church that morning. It was one small plume at 10:40 AM. It was very dry and hot that morning, near 90 F, and I thought with the fire observation tower on Mt Elden I was certain that a call would go out to put that fire out. Did not happen, and as I was returning to home after church that morning it was a full blown blaze. The cause... Fire mitigation in that watershed doing clearing work that morning. Had it not been done on that very dry and "tinder box" day in 2019 this catastrophe would not have happened. According to the AZ Daily Sun which reported: "Museum Fire was sparked by forest thinning work from the Flagstaff Watershed Protection Project’s steep slope project when an excavator struck a rock during their operations..." They are RESPONSIBLE, along with all the government agencies that allowed this operation to continue on a very dry day, 1% humidity at 90 F+ conditions ... And they should be held accountable for all the damage to Flagstaff Sunnyside homes. Many of these homes are beyond repair, and cannot be repaired as they are now in a flood zone. A CLASS ACTION suit might be in order.

    • @sedonars1
      @sedonars1 Před 2 lety

      Sue yourselves; great solution! Let's go cry to the government for all our problems, meanwhile rail against every government agency the rest of the year. Idiots, buyer beware!

    • @clairea-t7045
      @clairea-t7045 Před 2 lety

      Why didn't you call it in when you drove by?

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner Před 2 lety +1

      @@sedonars1 Sue those responsible for the loss of homes. This Museum Fire was human caused. Done at the driest, 90 F plus day of 2019. So I suppose it is OK for the over a dozen so far home owners to then have property, and homes that are worth "0"? That area has not flooded in all of recorded human history, and even American Natives lived nest to that creek that we call Spruce Wash... No, a Class Action is in order, and once the homeowners that have lost their home come together a suit will follow.

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner Před 2 lety +1

      @@clairea-t7045 On the way to church, which is in the or on the side of the affected location, i told church members that I saw the plume of smoke, and several had seen it an called it in. But what I find very perplexing... The fire tower observation post that should be manned. Certainly a person manning it would have seen that plume as it was only a mile away. Was the guy asleep? Maybe there was no one in that tower to report this fire that went to wildfire stage very quickly. And being a Sunday, the crew that caused this fire the day previous did not show up till it had become uncontrolled.

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 Před 2 lety

      That's infuriating. These people should absolutely sue the city then. Force the city to buy their worthless houses from them for whatever the price of their mortgage was so they can start over again somewhere else.

  • @vanessasylvester6151
    @vanessasylvester6151 Před 2 lety +28

    Lord Jesus my heart is so sadden to see this devastation to these people lively hood. Have mercy Lord! I pray God will vindicate everyone impacted by those flood waters. Ridiculous! scenario happening in Arizona in 2021 really.

  • @macb.43
    @macb.43 Před 2 lety +4

    My heart breaks for these people. Anyone who says it’s just things needs to keep their opinions to themselves. We work and sacrifice much of our time, our youth and some their health for “things”… sending thoughts and prayers from Somerset England. I had the privilege 20 years ago to spend 6 months in America.. even time in Flagstaff, and have such fond memories of the people and places.

  • @JohnADuerk
    @JohnADuerk Před 2 lety +3

    This is truly heartbreaking. How could someone build this neighborhood without the proper infrastructure to redirect the water when it rains? It reminds me of Houston, Texas, where countless homes were built in a flood plain. Then, Hurricane Harvey struck in 2017. Homes were in 8-10 feet of water. Sometimes human error comes with a high price tag attached.

  • @janicefoundas9163
    @janicefoundas9163 Před 2 lety +15

    The poor man and people suffering thru this!

  • @robinleavitt7919
    @robinleavitt7919 Před 2 lety +1

    Omg this is so sad and it brings tears to my eyes my prayers go out to all of you

  • @theprayingiguanabengalmomma

    This is way too sad and messed up! They need good ppl representing them since no one does anything! I truly hope they find closure soon and God bless them and they can count on me for prayers!!!!

  • @Comin_at_U_Live
    @Comin_at_U_Live Před 2 lety +7

    The old guy is crying as if they weren't told when they bought the place and decided it was worth it anyway..

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 Před 2 lety +2

      Right. You can clearly see where the water is going to go how can you continue to he surprised?

  • @VinciGlassArt
    @VinciGlassArt Před 2 lety +4

    Curious, is Arizona able to at least capture this water to help mitigate the drought? Meantime, its not ideal, but just adaptation, but yes they should accept, build and build bigger, stronger, permanent walls at least to channel the water and hopefully direct it somewhere useful. Plan and do. Up to us.

    • @barbaraholzgrebe4710
      @barbaraholzgrebe4710 Před 2 lety +1

      We have received so much rain in the whole state this year. It's as green as can be. The snow in the winter fills up the lakes and reservoirs. I've been here my whole life and never seen it like this. The weather mutilation is true issue. Control the people and keep them in fear.

    • @VinciGlassArt
      @VinciGlassArt Před 2 lety

      @ding dong Great. Another example demonstrating how having anti-government people IN government does NOT serve the community of people that the government represents. smh. Maybe the severity of the problem here will change some minds. I hope so, for the sake of the people in the story.

  • @noorazmiralmohammadnoor3230

    Flood in flagstaff, i was at nau studying there, just snow, no floods at all for 4 years, i dont recall i have seen rains when i was in 4 years there. Love the place..

  • @ridgecrestwack9746
    @ridgecrestwack9746 Před 2 lety +3

    "What are we supposed to do?" Idk, move out of a flood zone maybe?

  • @michaelbrinks8089
    @michaelbrinks8089 Před 2 lety +4

    I won't be surprised if the city tells them they're not allowed to leave the sand bags up and threatens to fine them if they don't remove them.

  • @presidentcamacho
    @presidentcamacho Před 2 lety +5

    Seems to be an issue with the people who put homes where the water naturally flows.

    • @submechanophobia768
      @submechanophobia768 Před 2 lety

      Yes, those people who are in bed with land developers who make decisions on where houses can be built safely. Most likely all republican types who care of only money.

  • @neiljohnson6815
    @neiljohnson6815 Před 2 lety +2

    A place that once (or many times) flooded has flooded again! I am shocked and amazed.

  • @hippiebits2071
    @hippiebits2071 Před 2 lety +1

    Really expected this to be about people complaining about a one time event that had concerned them. It's absolutely unconscionable this has been going on since 2019 without considerable improvements!!!

  • @drmodestoesq
    @drmodestoesq Před 2 lety +5

    Where is all this water going? I'm assuming it'll find its way to some local river and then contribute to a reservoir. That's some small good news I guess.

  • @barryah4132
    @barryah4132 Před 2 lety +5

    YOU ARE LIVING ON STOLEN LANDS SOAKED WITH THE BLOOD OF GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 Před 2 lety

    Things are getting crazy. I live outside NYC and my town had massive flooding. I never even gave flooding a thought. Some poor man died a couple of miles from our house. It happened in a very busy part of town. He was not the only person to die. People had feet of water in their yards all the way to their first floors. No rivers or streams overflowed just massive rain and a sewer system overwhelmed. I feel for these peoples. One flood was enough for me and my damage was light. My 68 year old neighbor has lived in this neighborhood his entire life and had never seen anything like this before. He never thought a flood was a possible. Its the new normal, crazy weather that is.

  • @annien4353
    @annien4353 Před 2 lety +1

    Never knew about this. Thank you 😔

    • @user-bb5wq6vw5f
      @user-bb5wq6vw5f Před 2 lety +1

      Monsoons,come every year to Az. vary dangerous to families that want to enjoy rivers at summer time. People have been sweepted away to their death. This is the northern part of the State.

  • @swflfishing2902
    @swflfishing2902 Před 2 lety +6

    So what changed to start flooding these homes? It didn’t all of a sudden start raining

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 Před 2 lety +1

      Polar caps.

    • @edgarb.9176
      @edgarb.9176 Před 2 lety +6

      There has been a combination of drought, extra rain, and lack of vegetation growth after the fire in 2019. The water after a storm just runs off the mountain where as in the past, the vegetation would stop so much water from running off Mt. Elden.

    • @EMRAE_8
      @EMRAE_8 Před 2 lety +2

      Some areas around Flagstaff had wildfires that took out acres of trees and the likelihood of flooding is happening more often. The San Francisco peaks are in the foreground of this part of town. On the north side of town heading north on hwy 89, this happened in the early 2000's where the wildfires burned the trees and vegetation along the peaks there and the next monsoon season flooded those homes there badly until the city created huge runoff channels to divert the water.

    • @eljefe4473
      @eljefe4473 Před 2 lety +6

      This is an older neighborhood in flagstaff but the unchecked growth in this small town that lacks the proper infrastructure is causing this. You used to be able to drive through flag and have nice trees and undeveloped areas. Now it’s an asphalt concrete hellish Phoenix type place. When I lived there in late 90s I never understood the NO big box store policies the town council had. Now I get it.

    • @michaelangelos5117
      @michaelangelos5117 Před 2 lety +1

      @@eljefe4473 yep

  • @carrowxhex6891
    @carrowxhex6891 Před 2 lety +3

    Those people look on the verge of mental breakdown and they deserve a solution. That’s an embarrassment to the county and state officials.

  • @brendasprankle9394
    @brendasprankle9394 Před 2 lety +1

    Prayers for healing and safety. So sorry for your troubles. God is good. Keep the faith.

  • @gwenjosie
    @gwenjosie Před 2 lety

    I wish people were that kind and friendly in the town I live in. They seem to really care..

  • @nickymatthews2465
    @nickymatthews2465 Před 2 lety +6

    Arizona. GOP controlled. No zoning. You get the government you voted for, and the repercussions.

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 Před 2 lety

      In the Southern USA everywhere, there are lying land developers, unfair tax advantages giving tax-free incentives to corporations for relocating to the Southern regions to create jobs for the white ruler's minority voting block. Republican made in the USA.

    • @georgewashington7374
      @georgewashington7374 Před rokem

      Ain’t nothing GOP about Flagstaff you stupid fckn commie!😂

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 Před 2 lety +10

    The mayor is so busy worrying about his re-election instead of helping with the real problems in flagstaff.

  • @SicilianStealth
    @SicilianStealth Před 2 lety

    During Sandy my street was under five feet of water. We were evacuated that day Grand Central Terminal being a mess I took the subway up to 241st Street where my mother and my sister picked me up and I went to stay with my parents for several days in Rye we had no electricity but we had hot water and the stove.
    FEMA came to my parents but didn't need to apply. I did and I'm very grateful to FEMA they put me up at the W Hotel for 3 months. Sent me a $2500 check and put me up at Gild Hall - a Thompson Square Hotel for an additional one month.

  • @tinapredmore3215
    @tinapredmore3215 Před 2 lety +2

    This is so heart breaking 💔

  • @FireShine-ss4sb
    @FireShine-ss4sb Před 2 lety +3

    The state can make cattle ponds in outback places and make many of them and large so the water gets dissipated along the way into those ponds and by chance......only guessing and by estimates, the water never rushes a town down main street. You cant easily build a retention dam but you can build 20 smaller holding ponds to help the water table and maybe their volume equals a larger dam. There needs to be more work done with track hoes on state owned land to help ranchers with cattle ponds, for wildlife, and to lessen flood severity.

  • @toddbest8347
    @toddbest8347 Před 2 lety +4

    THEIR OFFICIALS ARE FILMED LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!

  • @standepain
    @standepain Před rokem

    2:28 The look she gives the camera is just heartbreaking. We had flooding issues like this in my town and they figure out it was a new set of developments that were put in and with so much concrete and asphalt all over the water had no place to soak in the ground anymore. They added in a few retention ponds and it's flooded out but it didn't affect any homes. I really hope they solved this.

  • @danielchayra401
    @danielchayra401 Před 2 lety +1

    I was an insurance inspector for underwriters and I learned so much, You have to look at all the surrounding factors. Flood planes, fire hazards, factories, trains, airplane routes, rivers, roads, the list is long but very important. Insurance companies look at all of this and CHARGE you accordingly !!

  • @pauldempsey9065
    @pauldempsey9065 Před 2 lety +3

    Im so sad for these poor folks

  • @Richard_the_V
    @Richard_the_V Před 2 lety +5

    Dude, I see water that high, I'm out. Clearly it's past "moving foward"
    Can we agree their state version of gov sucks..

  • @clariemorales1246
    @clariemorales1246 Před rokem

    We are watching from SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO .
    WE ARE CRYING CRYING, CRYING.

  • @jameswilliams5257
    @jameswilliams5257 Před 2 lety +2

    I grew up in sunny side and I am 62 now and I seen a lot of storms and it never flooded like that. The city is to blame for the flooding. All the comments about building in a flood plain don't know what they're talking about. Don't comment on items you don't know anything about.

    • @sedonars1
      @sedonars1 Před 2 lety

      You need to get used to Climate Catastrophe in every neighborhood in the world. All of this was predicted in 1989 when the NWS testified in congress that if you don't stop subsidizing oil companies, you will pay the consequences.
      Now shut up and take your medicine, and quit crying to the government that has been bought and paid for by giant industry!

  • @junbug1love
    @junbug1love Před 2 lety +7

    I'm in Tempe Arizona just a couple miles from ASU and here in Phoenix we got three alerts back-to-back as well State emergency imminent alerts for flash flooding... And not just last night but recently we have received those to let us know but at the same time last night was the first time I got 3 Alerts... within one or two hours.

  • @MajCyric
    @MajCyric Před 2 lety +13

    That's what happens when you live in a house in a flood plain zone..

  • @calvinjohnstone2664
    @calvinjohnstone2664 Před 2 lety +1

    🙏 for those affected.

  • @yliberal6355
    @yliberal6355 Před 2 lety +1

    I would look at the city and county for not clearing out the drains properly. My heart goes out to those people!

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Před 2 lety +4

    So funny!
    Imagine the same place getting hit by floods!!
    How is that even possible???

  • @arnesste000
    @arnesste000 Před 2 lety +4

    I feel for these folks

  • @verothomas1524
    @verothomas1524 Před rokem

    I’m from Hawaii and we know rain. Much of the challenges in tropical regions comes from rerouting old river beds when developers plow under tracts to build homes. In the 70s, as a child, I watched the rivers of water coming down the streets in our neighborhood . The state had to go into the mountains and build large drainage system designed to carry flood waters to the ocean and then the flooding stopped. However, it’s also extreme costly. It’s why we pay the cost of housing that we do. Infrastructure planning is a must. This has to have been happening up there for some time now. The movement of that water indicates, to me, an existing river flowed through thus area and was never rerouted before it was developed. Any ideas how old these homes are?

  • @A_World_Full_of_Lies
    @A_World_Full_of_Lies Před 2 lety +1

    They are making me sad!! This is heartbreaking!!

  • @judithhollandsworth3766
    @judithhollandsworth3766 Před 2 lety +5

    Infrastructure would cover what needs to be done. Get your Senator to approve this legislation.

    • @NewOne-ey1wm
      @NewOne-ey1wm Před 2 lety

      Like demolish the houses and build on higher ground?

  • @toniblunt2906
    @toniblunt2906 Před 2 lety +5

    Dry in Phoenix smh wow look at all that water

    • @krazybryan45
      @krazybryan45 Před 2 lety

      Nah bro its cali thats dry but this vid is about flagstaff lol

    • @toniblunt2906
      @toniblunt2906 Před 2 lety

      @@krazybryan45 right in az as is phoenix, that's dry. This is horrible and people should not live like this.

    • @deadazzz
      @deadazzz Před 2 lety

      @@krazybryan45 cali could never be as dry as az

  • @darlind6463
    @darlind6463 Před 2 lety

    Prayers are with all of you.

  • @pyrojoe711
    @pyrojoe711 Před 2 lety +2

    Hang in there my fellow Arizonans. Hopefully some relief comes soon.

  • @stevencochran2845
    @stevencochran2845 Před 2 lety +3

    I have had to start all over more than once. And it was always a Blessing.

  • @williamemrich9349
    @williamemrich9349 Před 2 lety +4

    🤔Is it possible to turn Flagstaff and potential washes around Flagstaff into a sponge city like China sponge cities are doing to divert the excess water towards Arizona’s interior needs.

  • @allyshivers3082
    @allyshivers3082 Před 2 lety

    So is it flooded or bone dry in Arizona cause Ive seen video saying both in the last two days and it dam well cant b both

  • @bearbones4347
    @bearbones4347 Před 2 lety

    God bless those people. There beautiful