संवाद # 138: Sawani Shetye on the horrific history of Goa Inquisition |
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- Sawani Shetye is an archaeologist by education with a specialisation in Ancient Indian History and culture. She has pursued her Masters's Degree from Deccan College, Pune. She is currently pursuing her PhD in History from Goa University. Sawani has presented thorough research on the Kaavi art of Goa and Karnataka. Sawani has expertise in Ancient Indian Temple Architecture and iconography.
Sawani is passionate about India, the land and her people and is keen on writing the story right with due importance to India’s civilisational ethos and narratives. To help change Goa’s image as limited to beaches and booze and reveal its true story to natives as well as tourists, Sawani made use of her academic background and launched heritage tours to explore the real Goa through its temples, archaeological remains, local cultural experiences such as festivals and folk performance
0:00 Promo
3:42 Why Portuguese came to Goa
9:36 Why Portuguese banned Sati
12:12 Portuguese, Orphanages & Conversions
16:52 Why Inquisition was established
20:30 Methods used for conversions
24:45 Flight of deities - Goa edition
28:15 Horrors of Inquisition
31:56 Obsession with banning Hindu rituals
37:30 Hindus reduced to 2nd class citizens
42:18 Christians with Hindu Characteristics
45:38 Tactics of converting Hindus
50:20 Shantadurga Mandir of Goa
54:45 Condition of temples under Portuguese
58:15 Why Portuguese didn’t expand
1:01:26 Role of ‘Fathers’
1:05:20 Temples of Goa & Shivaji
1:09:23 Unique temples of Goa
1:15:15 Revival of Temples in Goa
Only bcoz of Marathas, SHIVAJI MAHARAJA and Sambaji Maharaj we Hindus in Goa survived from Portuguese atrocities in coastal belt.
Peshwa bajirao ne bhi bohot pela tha purtgaliyo ko
What about counters?
It was Rani Abbaka devi chowta who defeated the Portuguese 17 times in coast of Mangaluru , She never let them set foot on our shores ,it was due to her Karnataka was saved from inquisition .
My god why are you trying to spread wrong message about shivaji maharaj stating he saved only hindus no he saved humans belonging to all religions.. but the RSS wants to send a wrong message among masses..
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu Chatrapathi Shivaji maharaj lives in heart of every hindu for he stood against oppression and hindus were oppressed by invaders in this nation. His contribution to the survival of Hindu civilisation from foreign invasion cannot be doubted .Stop making everything a RSS propaganda. Shivaji was
always known as Hindu hydray samrat and it isn’t an RSS slogan but it is the truth as he lives in our heart . And nobody can take that away from Us .
As a Konkani Saraswat Brahman whose ancestors fled from Goa because of the Portuguese persecution, I almost cried watching Sawani ji speak. The situation was very similar to what Kashmiri Hindus faced but here the colonizers were Christian zealots. I am a proud Hindu not because of my achievements or some false sense of superiority but because of the great sacrifices of my Hindu ancestors. They held on to their faith, their gods, and their Dharma even in such dire situations. I can only imagine the kind of courage and commitment that they carried in their hearts to be able to let go of everything but not their Dharma.
जय श्री राम 💐💐💐🌹🙏🙏
Thank you. I belong to the GSB community to and this is exactly what my ancestors went through. My podcasts like these is my tribute to them
Nice
Exactly my thoughts
@@sawanishetyearrange a meet up if you ever are in Pune
I think the government of Goa should focus on the concept of “temple tourism” on the lines what is being done with Kashi. It could become a small step towards reclaiming our heritage in this part of Bharat 🇮🇳.🙏🏽
It is being planned
Yes, Goa Tourism has started it now. Goa as Dakshin Kashi
temple is not a place of tourism
@@rajanipatil90 Temples help in developing a particular area. But yes, I believe that the basic sanctity of the place should be maintained
@rajanipatil90 it is for wise nice people not modern chutiyas
As a Konkani brahmin having Ancestry from Goa now residing in karnataka...It feels bad to know about our past history 😢
I still visit Mahalaxmi and Damodar Termple once in a Year
Very good knowledge.for everyone
@@SalmaSalma-bj5yqPortuguese persecuted Muslims as well because they hated Adil shahi
@@ATMmm62 but the irony is the portuguese was invited by the hindu king to protect hindus from Muslims so are you saying hindus are responsible for the mess...
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu but they (Portuguese ) misused that deal.
@@ATMmm62 so in other words was adil shah better and if it was then why did hindu king took help of portuguese to protect hindus from adilshah
Coz you said to Muslim in your own words 'portuguese persecuted Muslims as well' so what about adilshah(Muslim emperor) persecuting hindus? Due to which hindu king took help from portuguese. .. let's see how you can defend that...
As a Goan. I thank you for sharing our story.
I’m a Goan Brahmin. My kuldevi is Vijayadurga in Keri. My ancestors fled Goa and went to Karnataka. Even our kuldevi was moved twice from her original location. The current location of the temple is on the hill top and it’s quite secluded!
The story goes that the priests hid the idol and carried her on the mountain to prevent Portuguese from vandalizing the idol.
My Kuldevi is VIJAYADURGA. JATRA is on 22nd Dec
JATRA is on 22nd Dec
Do you have the evidence for it like a real authentic historical source or is mouth-to-ear heard of fancy stories?
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xuthere are tons of historical evidences regarding portuguese cruelty in Goa. If onle you know where and how to look. This cruelty was not unique to Goa but also in Africa, Brazil. It was also carried our by the Catholic Church and European cpuntries worldwide. Read, edify yourself. Your catholic church was as crues if not more than Islamic invaders. Read will and Ariel Durant.
@@anandandyiyer Waffling won't help you if you have no evidence to prove it, so go ahead put forth your evidence and you win the argument if not you are just making a mockery of yourself as by your talk it shows you have no idea of catholic church about its work neither in Goa nor in Brazil or Africa or so as to say in whole of India... All you are doing here is reciting the script of bhraminism taught to you in RSS school of terror that has tortured the shudras & acchuts (untouchables) in our beloved country India since ages much before Christianity was born, these bhrama-bulls were first challenged by Lord buddha then by our beloved brother the greatest son of my motherland India our very own Dr Bhimrao ( babasaheb) Ambedkarji whom the bhrama-bulls of RSS terror camp hate to the core.. FYI I have read Ariel Durant who has just vomitted venom against Christianity with no evidence...
I know one such Christian family from Goa which went to visit Vaishno Devi last year, as they still have the knowledge of their roots in Goa.
Mostly all Catholics know their ancestral Hindu surnames, their ancestral village and in which Church their ancestors were Baptized. Specifically high caste Catholics have their records, it is maintained in the Church also.
Doesn't matter.... One generation will detach themselves and from then on - it is all anti-Hindu. With this woke system all over the world, the process will only escalate. Many hindus have left worshipping of their Daiva and Devi.
Some Christians visit fatorpa temple and do the rituals thats to be done once in year
@@vinaydhopeshwarkar7102who are hindus where did this word hindu derived from did indians called themselves hindu or was it outsiders
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu who called you chritian ?
Btw u r a tulukan . Who called u moslem ? Only mohammedan tulukan was ur identity nd a converted one 🤮
Thank you For Providing this information over here. As a Goan hindu i have heard lot of incidents from my Grandmother. She even told about pakhlos who had abducted village ladies which never returned.they use to hide in the maatiyer (a kind of basement in the fearful atmosphere)At that time Portuguese were called pakhlos 😢.
Mee too heard same
This is one of the most important History lesson. Thank you for bringing her in the podcast!❤
इन्हे एक और पॉडकास्ट में सुन चुका हु। गोवा का मूल संस्कृति ,गांव की पूजा पद्धति हमारे क्षेत्र के जैसी है,मैं बस्तर क्षेत्र का रहने वाला हु।इन्हे सुन कर गोवा को देखने का नजरिया ही बदल गया।मैं पहली बार भी 2014 में गोवा घूमते समय सभी घरों के सामने तुलसी चौरा देख कर थोड़ा अचंभित था,हैरानी तब और हुई जब क्रॉस लगा हुआ तुलसी चौरा देखा।
धन्यवाद देवेन्द्र भाई.कोसिस करते रहो सनातन की खोई हुई महिमा हम फिर से लाएंगे
Punjab aur gujarat mein yeh sab chal raha hai...abhi bhi...Modi Govt kay ander!!
दुर्भाग्यपूर्ण यह है कि यह पूरे देश में चल रहा है। इसमें कोई संदेह नहीं है कि इस सरकार ने इसे रोकने के लिए बहुत कुछ किया है। हालांकि हम सभी को एक छोटा समूह बनाकर और उन्हें एहसास दिलाकर अपने स्तर पर प्रयास करना होगा।
बने बने मितान
U are saying something wrong, TULSI CHURA woth Cross npt possible. Catholics keep only cross outside the house, they copied these from Hindus
Unfortunately Indians really had a hard time from the Muslims and the Christian’s as their primary aim was to convert them. But the mystery is after all the conversions that have taken place we are still Hindus and going strong. Just imagine how much of physical violence and torture must have been undergone by each of them to stay as Hindus. Never forget our forefathers who sacrificed everything than changing their religion and we should never forget this!
Now we must reclaim India as Hindu rashtra. By Hindu rashtra we means that a country for Hindus, Zains, Sikhs and Buddhist.
I wish I could give your comment a thousand likes.
Sorry your wrong they Portugese were Roman Catholics and not Christians. Though Catholics and Christians believe in Jesus , but not all their beliefs are the same.
@@saviocoutinho8730 can you answer who Christians & who Roman Catholics are?
True Bro 😢😢😢
I literally cried in my room.i could not control tears from eyes. Savaniji and vaad both deserve appreciation for bringing these facts of atrocities of Portuguese towards Hindus. Goa ! My pranams to the land and its water to instill love towards God and our rituals. I felt proud of our ancestors of Gomanthak land ❤❤❤❤.In our Telangana state almost every village has Shivaji Maharaj idol. We don't know the hidden facts about the actual History. Nobody had told the facts but respect continuing till today to Shivaji who is equallly treated as a Kul devata.. These are eye opener episodes and every Indian must watch. Thank you very much both.
Magarmach key asoon hain tere.
Why are FAIR SKINNED people doing episodes of Goa???
In 2023 Hindus are doing Human Sacrifice for prosperity. In 2023 Hindus mis-treat Dalits even piss on them. In 2023 temple in MP put up board saying Dalits Harijan not allowed to enter. Hindu Nepal did not join Bharat. Bhutan expelled Hindus in 1980s. What were Hindus doing in 1515
90% people caught spying for China and Pakistan are Hindus
@@GeorgeFernandes-bf8ziconversion Mafia
I just came back from Goa. I stayed in Benaulim (Banavali). I had absolutely no idea that that is supposed to be the place where Parashuram hit the arrow. As a Bramhan, I am ashamed for not knowing. Thank you for spreading awareness.
धन्यबाद सावनी देवी जी। जय देव भूमि गोमांतक। 😢🎉
😊🙏 जय देव भूमि गोमांतक 🚩
Started listening accidentally and did not stopped till it finished... aam janta kitane maje se jee rahi he but humara freedom kitane logon ke struggle and sufferings pe khada he ye aaj samaz ata he... Immediately subscribed bhai 👍 we should not forget our history, if we wish not to experience it again.
हमारे शिवाजी महाराज के हम पर कितने ही उपकार है...😭
महाराज आपकी बहुत आवश्यकता है।😢
I was in Goa from 11.11.23 to 13.11.23. This time I travelled around Madgaon remote villages and everywhere it’s churches nothing else even after there is only 25% of Christians. It’s really surprising to see very less temples with 60% Hindu population.
*There are many huge temples which are located in the interior places around Mardol and Madkai.* Like Mangeshi, Mahalasa, Navadurga, Shanta Durga, Mahalaxmi.....
@@bvshenoy7259 yes I know but if you see the ratio in terms of population than it’s really bad situation.
Very true. I visited first in 2017, was too young to understand the history and was impressed by the churches and Portuguese culture. Recently read the Goa Inquisition by AK Priolkar and had the opportunity of visiting Goa again in 2022, completely changed my outlook of looking at Goa. Temples and Sanatan are very deeply rooted in everyday life. Truly impressed.
@@doppelganger1947 1st time visit i was also fascinated with churches but this time I knew the truth so it’s kind of sad feeling you know.
Madgao town is in salcete taluka 1 out of 4 talukas that Portuguese had control on that's y more churches are here in madgaon
Truly Goa is Dev & Devi Bhoomi.
Thanks for this podcast. Its great to know about the history ,struggle,pain & rebuilding.
It was really insightful to listen you Sawani Tai,The Portuguese Atrocities On The Western Coast Especially Of Konkan And The Resistance And Counterattack From The Maraths And Hindu Kings/Queens Of Coastal Karnataka Should Given More Focus In Theatre Of The European Invasion..
Everywhere the word hindu is viral shows they are completely ignoring buddhist who were tortured by bhramins..
The best ever of Vaad telecast … learnt so much about Goa in one go🙏💕
Thanks for sharing this with the world…not many are aware of this…❤ from a person with Goan ancestry…
Thank you Sawani Madam .. unfortunate part is that all the occupier who came from outside they did everything in their disposal to destroy sanatan culture . We should be happy that offlate there is hindu awakening and are realising the atrocities we have bore in the past .
Islam have been most ruthless and tried everything to destroy our culture however other religion are not far behind in effort the detroy sanatan .
Thanks for a great episode with Sawani ji. She is amazing at Goan history. So much of our own history is kept away from us.
जय श्री राम 💐💐🙏
सावनीताईंचा अभ्यास अवर्णनीय. हा विषय वाचला होता, पण आज नवीन माहिती मिळाली.
अजूनही बाटगे ख्रिस्ती लोक येऊन कन्व्हर्ट करायचे प्रयत्न सोडत नाहीत.
Also no matter what people say about Vijay Mallaya, he was the one who rebuilt the current Mhalsanarayani Temple in its Divya form.
Please get the facts right. That's not true.
Sawani ji, thanks a lot for such a nice description of Goan history. Really shakened by the atrocities of Portuguese. We only know about Britishers atrocities most of the time.
Thank you very much Arihant जी for bringing out the real truth about Goa, which I am sure more than 90% of Bharatiya don't know, leave alone the Indians. The whole story should come out in wide public arena!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Yes I completely agree with you it should be brought in public how the Brahmins tortured shudras & untouchables since ages what was the reasons why buddha left sanathan why ambedkarji left sanathan???
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu Read the actual history and then make your comments! Don't vouch on the propagandas!!!
@@keshavsingh1672 Exactly my opinion to you is the same read the actual history of India not the propaganda made by bhramin lead RSS...
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xufirst of all its bharat and bharat is not your missionaries convention ground... I see you every where typing se message of torture of bhramin over Shudra blah blah... you sound so much fake trying to desperately prove your fake propaganda...
Its shameful that Hindus feel cool about Goa now as tourist spot without knowing the horrific past of conversions😢😢 Jago Hindus... thanks maam
jaag kar kide kartalo hindu?
There is nothing shameful about it. Theta is our history
I think people should be more worried of their future generations then past, cause our Yuva peedhi is completely spoilt
False propaganda
jago 8 ghante sone ke baad har hindu jaagta hi hai .tum kiss gufa mein mar gaye teh joh abhi jaagne ki khayal aaya.
I couldn’t hold back my tears after listening to the plight of innocent Hindus who were humiliated, murdered, converted and driven out of their lands. After reading the Goa inquisition book by AK Priolkar Goa isn’t the same for me anymore. So many Hindu killings and genocides and still no justice. What’s appalling is that some people try to justify that colonisation was a good thing! I mean it’s calling Osama a freedom fighter!
The more appalling thing is that most of the Hindus who visit Goa for recreational purpose, go to visit old churches as ancient architectures. They don't know the history behind those churches. And even guides too either don't know or don't reveal the history. When I visited Goa, I refused,to the ashtonishment of our guide, to join the swarms of people entering the churches. I told him the history in brief and to my surprise by his response and jestures, I could realise that he knew it.
@@pankaj29904 it’s a shame that the state govt and the ministry of culture doesn’t feel the need to change the distorted history in books museums, restoration of forts, correct history by tour guide. One way to control the distortion of history by tour guides is by creating these QR codes which can be scanned by the tourists to listen to the correct history of the place.
@@Pearls103 for your information this sawani Shetye is a liar an also not a goan, she belongs to rss an they are the once who are promoting her. Her ancestors migrated to goa during Portuguese rule in such of employment. Now the question here is if the Portuguese were so cruel why her ancestors migrated to goa? I had challenge her for a public debate at Azad maiden in panjim last year but she has not accepted my challenge, I am still ready for that challenge. One more think all her interviews an other press meets are held outside goa but never in goa. She is the one who only makes videos in goa but never come before press or public to explain the contents an the purpose of making such video.
Coin has two sides.
@@Myworldisgoa
Use Samay ka pata nahin par abhi ka Dekhe to Jo information De Hai vah Sahi aur dusri BaatAnd don't forget the North Eastern front of India which is totally in the hand of Christians and the Hindu Hriday Samrat is appealing them with the full asslicking to getChristians vote of KeralaDon't forgot 48 professor 48% what the scenario of Lahore but it went to Pakistan because of 4 guass whom
I am so happy that my direct ancestors funded the Peshwa's (specifically Shrimant Chimajiappa - brother of Peshwa Bajirao and his son Nanasaheb) who kicked the Portuguese out of Vasai and north Mumbai in 1730's and later. The Portguese and their bigoted practices were even detested by the French English and other European traders at that time.
being a konkani this hits deep into my heart.
Learned a lot about Goa durning the time of portuguese rule.
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On a separate note, I had a colleague, she is Goan Christian, her mother-in-law when she was a child (around 5-6 years old) was sent to Mozambique by the Portuguese. She was made to do hard labor in her childhood. This lady came back to Goa when she was 15 years old. She doesn’t know anything about her family, her relatives or her village.
How very sad indeed
जय शिवाजी महाराज। जय शांत दुर्गा। 😢🎉❤धन्यवाद दीदी जी। थैंक यू वाद❤🎉💐दक्षिण काशी गोआ। आभार बहुत बहुत।
Thank you Sawani ji and vaad for enlightening us on this hidden portion of Goan history. Very moving narration; it brought tears in my eyes knowing about the horrific treatment meted out to our brotheren in Gomantak. Good quality documentory film on Goa Files should be made and shown to our future generations. Jai Hind
It would be censored in just first 10 minutes. Most of goans nowadays also don't have any idea how cruel that time was for their own ancestors.
Extremely enlightening Podcast .Thank you to Sawani ji and Team Vaad
Everyone should read the following:
-Denaming of Goa by Bernardo Elvino DeSousa
-Castes of Mind: Colonialism and making of modern India by Dirk
-will sweetman's publication on 'The Dravidian Idea in Missionary Accounts of South Indian Religion'
-and to understand how missionaries were involved in slave trading of so called lower caste you can read publication from portugese scholar 'Manumission of Slaves in Goa During 1682 to 1760 as Found in Codex 860' by Teotonio R. Desouza.
Reminder india wasn't the only land where this has happened. Every non-white and non-christian ruler land which was colonized or inquisitioned faced the same. Native american tribe, Native Canadian tribes, central and south africa, aboriginals of australia, latin america.
It wasn't until the treaty of yandabo (1826) that the christian missionaries didn't start the conversion in what they termed 'North-East India'. Read about heraka movement, seng khasi movement etc.
Its only because of two Abhramanical faiths that this land has endured so much.
True💯
Bhai Hindi me samjhao na. English utani samajh me nahi aati
भारत के हिन्दुओं ने न जाने कितने - कितने यातनाएँ झेली , बेहिसाब , केन्द्र सरकार कम से कम आज भी आँखें खोले ၊
It is so sad that our history textbooks do not teach the Goan Inquisition. Sometimes they even glorify the Portuguese.
Credit goes to congress govt
Goa should be renamed as its orignal name, 'Gomanchal' can be a beautiful name, as new as original name. Bharat Sarkar/ Indian Government should reclaim it. Very sad real story of Goa, never ever heard of it before. Thanks for this podcast to both people.God Almighty God Shiva bless Gomanchal people all true peace, love, happiness, power and bliss.
Water in my eyes though out the video. Long live our ancestors our culture. 🌼
Need more informative videos from Sawani Madam. 😍😍 loved this video
What a fantastic podcast , Bravo sister & bro
I couldn't agree more. The image of Goa atleast among Indian has to change.
Sawani great job done ✔️ 👏 👍 Thanks vaad ❤
Being a Mangalorean, my hearts mealts to Konkanis. Whatever they suffered it could have happened to us too but with gods grace RANI ABBADEVI did not let it happen.
Jai Rani Abbakka ❤🤍
Kudla ❤
Yes but Your King Krishnadevarsya Helped Portuguese Capture Goa in 1510 AD and even sent envoys to them in 1514 AD. Krishnadevaraya is surely a traitor of India . He may be a hero for Portuguese.
👍👍👍 being a Maharatrian i was not knowing these fact. though, i had served in Goa in a defence, (and seen all these temples )very deep study....one more thing i must admit that, mam ur face is very close to Actress Rakhi..🙏🚩
As a young child i always wondered how a very harmonious community with a distinct vedic culture, speaking Konkani language came to be amidst the heartlands of Kerala that too in a town like Kayamkulam .It was only when i grew up that i learnt the of the unfathomable struggles they had gone through and how they sought safety along with their deities to the Odanad Kingdom where the King gave them an existing Temple of his own to accommodate the deities including the existing Sri Vittoba Temple administered by the Gaud Saraswat Brahmins.
Pranam to all the Goan fraternity who had to endure such pain. The need of the hour at the very least is a Truth and Reconciliation initiative to ensure that wounds are eased ( if not healed ) and the stories included and taught in the National Academic History syllabus . For even if one forgives, it must not be forgotten. 🙏
Have visited the Goa's Mahalaxmi Mandir in Colva few days back. Thank you for highlighting, I wasn't litterly aware of this.
The discussion on Goa was excellent but should also have discussed the same situation on Diu and Dadra and Nagar Haveli. They have also suffered the same
Portuguese Catholic Inquisitadors sent more than 45000 female Rajput prisoners from Dadra and Nagar Havelli to Goa for burning them on the stake.......
Goan Inquisition also desserves a movie.
Thanks Sawani u change my way of thinking about gova. I wish to spend time with my family to understand their cultures
Excellent podcast
Always thought of Goa as a western concept, never connected it to Hinduism in any way. We could only learn now in the age of internet and super connectivity that Goa had such bloody history and is as Hindu and Indian as the rest of us
Thanks to our erstwhile govts and Abrahamic education ministers, hindu history has been wiped out from school education.😮
This is a rather strange assumption that you thought of Goa as a "Western concept" and that you are being able to ascribe Sanatana Dharma to it only after the advent of social media. It is the most nonsensical admission that I have heard in recent times.
Either your history teachers must have been horrendously ignorant or the choice of books that you must have been reading must have been really poor.
How can Goa which is a part of India have a "Western concept"? And your admission that you needed social media to tell you otherwise makes it all the more laughable.
@@Rastapopoulos... nothing to scorn about and no need to sound so condescending. It’s not as if I couldn’t stop thinking about Goa for a moment. But always knew of it as a fun destination with lots of foreigners. The other side was not known to most or maybe we didn’t think much about it. You might have which I appreciate. But still, there was not really any need for such a long schooling
@@kiranbahety8438goa was actually a Buddhist state for almost 2000yrs it was the frist religion which came to goa an the native goan accepted it. since in the beginning natives never had any religion. The next religion to enter goa was jainism in was in practice for almost a 1000yrs. Then in 52AD Christianity came to goa before it reached Europe or America although it had very few followers at that time. Then in around 1198 there was a genocide in goa whereby most of the Buddhist an jains were either killed or forced to abandon their faith an some took shelter in the neighboring kingdoms, Christianity was saved from this genocide because they never had any places of worship because the concept of church was not there at that time. An that's how present day Hinduism came to goa. Most of the temples which are before 13th century are actually either Buddhist or jains places of worship which were converted into temples. An at that time of history there were no muguls, Portuguese or British in India or goa.
@@Myworldisgoa Hello in 54 AD Christianity came to Tamil Nadu through Thomas the Apostle 🙏
Don't spread false history, to hide your secrets. You are descendent of Portuguese Soldier and your comments are part of Portuguese Conspiracy.
Thanks for the interview
Sawani... amazing 👏 I'm so glad n proud, u are doing this great job of sharing true history 👏
What the Portuguese did, it should be recognized as a holocaust and genocide. 500 years is not a long time ago in the grand scheme. And Sawani, well spoken; excellent that there's a historian aming us who speaks on the basis of evidence.
That sawani Shetye is a big liar put forward by that termite organization called rss to spread false history of goa an spread hate. She is a maharashtrian not a goan from the bordering district of maharashtra who's ancestors entered goa during Portuguese rule. An now claiming to be a goan. You ask her only one question that is if she is a goan then she a gaunkar of which village of goa. Because before Portuguese rule started there were only gaunkars staying in goa.
Another meaningful podcast from Vaad. Keep it up
Excellent explanation by Ms Savani ji. Thank you for the initiative and discussion.
Excellent video and it is really eye opener. Thank you
Atrocities were also done on newly converted Catholics if they still followed initial Hindu customs, so such Catholics migrated outside Goa.
Beautiful deep insights into our Goa history 🙏🏻
Thank you so much 😊
Today i know about Goa..
Thanks both
Thank you so much
Important information related to श्री संस्थान गौडपदाचार्य मठ, कवळे also must have been discussed. It was the धर्म पीठ for the कुलदेवस्थान in goa.
Nice to see sawani Tai again ❤
We need to rewrite our history textbooks I am really amazed that this is not taught in schools
Each and every Hindu should watch this...
Savani maam has such calm aura although her field of study is so horrific
Incredible podcast, every Indian must know the history.
What was the role of those Christians in Kerala and around there who say they've been Christians way before these Europeans came in and also role of these all converted ones during the fight for independence. That would be actually huge unraveling
Yes indeed that would unraveling and all the bhramins are enjoying lavish lif
e in Europe & America the world's biggest hindu temple is built in America...
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu yes not on doles but they work hard , find good jobs nd built tempoe not like the jihadists . Go as refugees , live on doles ,, demand mosque, madrasa everything for free 🤮
Yes. The syrian christians came during the islamic invasion in the middleeast just like the jews.
Ofcourse the armenians also came as refugees.
Some came as traders but remained here becos of the brutality by pisslams in their countries .
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu BTW, the temples are built by the rich hindus mostly from business , kshatriya families . Get ur facts right . For whoch u must go to school
Not mad rasa
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xuProtestant
Thanks Sawani Shetye Madam n You -Both Of You for Such Wonderful Broadcast,I hav visited Thrice Goa...Visited Temples everytime & Must say they r really enhanced spiritual energy inside our soul....All temple places Ur mentioned & other 2 Shiv temples also...Must add One Some Navnath Temple in deep forest Hill,we were Unable to Visit n take darshan due to heavy rain(somewhere near Mangeshi temple or Our Marathi Actress Versha Usgaonkars Nativ Village!!!
History Was Not known to me that time& till now madam.
Really Thanks again Contribution of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj ji - Chatrapati Sambhaji Raje in Goan Freedom.. proud Us all Maharashtrian.
We Love Goa n Govan for they gaves Us Legends in Many fields & Our Lataji & Sachin Tendulkar....
Dr Jaybhaye,
23/12/23
I am greatful to U Both...
Salute to your dedication.
We get lot of history of tyranny and cruelty forced on Konkani in Goa during Portuguese’s reign. Smt Shifali Vaidya has written books on the persecution suffered by Konkani.
Excellent Vaad!! Truly inspiring !!
You are so resourceful
It s so interesting. Feels like listening again and again
सावनीजी,खरोखर आपला अभ्यास खूपच आहे.तुमची भाषेवरची पकड, तुमचा आत्मविश्वास आणि तुमची विषय मांडण्याची शैली अप्रतिम. तुम्हाला साष्टांग दंडवत.
Best historic lesson on Goa, respect to those who kept the Sanathana Dharma alive in cruel times. Image of Goa needs to change in people in years to come
गोमांतक। गोमांचल। गौ ।जय गौ माता। सह्याद्रि खंड। परशुराम भूमि। 😢😢बाँहल्ली। 96 सारस्वत भरहमन। कामाक्षी मंदिर।मंगेश। जी
Great work keep it up never stop.
Goa is different because of its history. Now I understand why there's natural friendship and affection between Goans and Maharashtrians.
Wonderful podcast. I loved it and listened to it several times.
Sawani is my navodayan classmate....Nice to hear our own real story which shall be known by every goan.I recommended this History must be part of Education and shall be taught to every goan and people should know the real truth...
Great podcast...people should understand why Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is great...he understood that these people are a nuisance..Jai Shivrai
All old stories just teach us one thing. Dushman par kabhi vishwas mat karo.
पान का पत्ता माताजी ओर हमारी कुलदेवी जी के भी चढ़ता है। दीपावली पर बीड़ा चढ़ाते हैं। 🎉
गोवा से संबंधित अभूतपूर्व जानकारी के लिए बहुत बहुत साधुवाद
I really like the personality of Sawani.
Goa has a wide history and beautiful things to see, more than what we have heard about it.
I like the video when I saw the thumbnail as Sawani is there.😍
Our Kuldevata is also in Shirodwadi Ravalnath Mahalaxmi and my grand mothers kuldaivata is dhakti vandevata....
Really very informative ...thnx fr making this video.
I am partly Goan as my Mom is from Goa. They are Hindus too. I always used to think that the Goa which I experience or see is completely different from what people describe it to be. Goa is not only about beaches and clubs but it has a rich cultural heritage. I think it’s high time that all the names of places in Goa be changed to it’s original name. People promoting Portuguese culture as something exotic must be stopped. As a lot of localites have suffered due to this inquisition. Also, our school names must not be kept on the name of these so called Saints because they were really not Saints. Killing innocent people for selfish reasons is not a kind of behavior any Saint would have.
So in other words you will use the English language to show your frustration & jealousy on other religion why don't you stop using English language, is it not belonging to invaders & how about CZcams, Facebook, Twitter Instagram all these modern day technology are you going to stop using them, also you said you wanna change the name of places as well & you wanna change the name of saints those same schools gave you education & English language how about your people enjoying lavish life in those same invaders countries in Europe USA
My friend stand by your words or you'll showcase your double-standards that's called hypocrisy...
The xtians in goa will still claim that they are Brahmins!!
Only Hindu
Yes, they have caste system like Hindus. They have maintained the original caste. The High class Catholics call themselves BAMON Brahmin, they are Landlords, they speak either Portuguese or English at home, they do not marry with lower class Catholics who are called as SUDHIR SUDHRA.
Every converted after claims Brahims😂😂😂
Zantye cashew
There is one category among them called 'Brahmin Catholic'.
अच्छा संवाद 👍
A powerful conversation that was an eye opener. Cried listening to the ordeal that Goan Hindus had to go thru to keep their religion and customs alive.
Very Good Sister Sawani . Rightly elaborated
My ancestors left Goa due to Portuguese atrocities....we visit Goa to meet our kuldev kuldevi...we no more speak Goan konkani but influence is still there In maharashtrian konkani Jay Maharashtra Jay gomantak
If your ancestors were goans then please tell me your ancestors were gaunkars of which village of goa?
@@Myworldisgoa chorao...chodan
@@Myworldisgoabefore that try to find you ancestors name... you will find that they were converted... lol
@@Prakruti1234 all goans are converts because we goans never had religion in the beginning an Buddhism was the first religion to enter goa, an goans got converted to this religion.
@@Myworldisgoa On what basis you r saying that the goans didn't have any religion and why are you differentiating goa from bharat... cause the temples all around bharat including goa are proof that the only culture that was practiced is sanatan dharma...
Kerala main bhi dekha hai ki church main jaane wali mahila mangalsutra pehne hue.
Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj ki Jai ❤❤
Great discussion salute you both.
Thanks for the explanation, it was an eye opener.
I had read amarathi novel in which all this information has come. One Portuguese with a gun riding on a horse having ahindu attendant running alongwith the horse would go village to village and tame the people to convert and destruct the temples.people ran away with their family deities.i do not remember the name of this novel now .pl if anyone has read it give the name so that others can read it. Very nice book .
तांडव - लेखक : महाबळेश्वर सैल? This could be the book,
If I may add , Sati was not dominant any time in India.
Take Kunti of Mahabharata fame.
If Sati was prevalent , even she should have been pushed to Sati
Sati was an option which allowed the wife to enter Sati ONLY AND ONLY if her family responsibilities were over , and then too she had to go to the guru who would say yes or no.
( A very important saint [Shri Vasaraja teertha] in our Kannada tradition was born only when the guru said NO to the wife and the guru was powerful enough to bring the dead husband back to life).
Sati would be brought into a forceful practice only to prevent the widows from being sold to prostitution.
Hence , evidences of Sati are more dominant in North India in comparison to South India due to rampant attacks there
Agree but madri committed sati didn't she?but I agree it was the choice of the woman and her family and not a compulsion... Another example is Mata Ahilyabai holkar.. She wanted to commit sati but her father in law Malharrao holkar stopped her. Later we all know what pious deeds she did and ruled Indore successfully for several years
Sati pratha never prevailed in India before the cruel invaders who captured all kanya Gurukuls and village ladies were abducted forcibly and gang raped as Maleganimat or spoils of war. Sold these ladies in Meena Bazaars for prostitution work. All red light areas were created by Mughals and Christians. All badwords had come from Abrahamic religions. There is no respect for women and are considered as soul less property or material objects that can be sold in market. This practices still goes on secretly in Democracy and openly in Muslim countries. Afganistan videos are available to see live video of selling girls in Burkhas in the market.
Amazingly knowledgable Sawaniji! Thanks for such an information-packed interview.
Thanks for bringing all this history to the notice of people.