WHY DID EDWARDS + WARD LEAVE LIVERPOOL? Here’s One Theory | Liverpool News
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Craig Houlden discusses the latest Liverpool news that Julian Ward & Michael Edwards incoming, could mean a new direction for the club.
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I wish all the negative folk would be patient…. the new season will be here soon, the reintroduction of Edward’s and Ward is very positive and we are beginning to evolve again as a club for tomorrow…. So cmon you lot kick back and be patient 😅
I want liverpool fc to win everything next season that's my dream for my team build the right squad for the new season
Honestly, I’ll be glad if we start going the ruthless route with no room for sentimentality when it comes to who we keep hold of and who we sell. I feel like Klopp was very loyal to players who were past their best and that maybe is the reason we didn’t win as much as we would’ve.
It’s not about that ..
Klopp and pep explain for a system to work you need player understanding not only of the system but each other .. now it’s easier to bring in 1 player at a time but that costs money .. ox was for sale for 32 seasons no takers as an example ..
now going back to the success under Klopp that was down to player loyalty and understanding ..
Now selling players you can only do if you have takers for those players
Keita , ox and Origi were for sale for 18 -24 months no takers .
So in a limited budget and no takers for players .
Not many clubs sell their captain or one of the best DM’s in the league ..
Edwards has a habit of refusing new deals for older players so they left on frees
Gini , Bobby , Origi ( as no buyers)
Mane forced a move
Pep got his success because of a player didn’t work out he just bought a new player hence the £500m spent just on his defence .. Klopp couldn’t do that and had to coach players and work them till they needed replacements but you need 12 months for each player to bed in ..
Which costs money .
Had FSG done certain things differently we might of got fresh faces in when the club needed them .
Hopefully we see more windows similar to the summer of 2018. If we brought in transformational players it will be massive .
I think jurgen leaving will probably hurt us in the next 12 to 18 months but if it’s true that he is burned out then it’s better to bring someone in who is fresh and can work with Edwards to build the next crop talented trophy winners. The 2017-2020 team was special hopefully we can repeat it.
Damn Michael Edwards moving like a CIA agent 😅
Man that guy is so serious
I hope they get the money to buy some players. Step up to the plate FSG. Pun intended.
Trying to build a Real Madrid model without the Real Madrid money. I call that deluded
FSG for you
Look we can’t have Klopp 2.0 so let’s just trust in the owners again and support our club and team’s decisions and see where it goes. I’m thinking back to when Shankly left and Bob Paisley took over, things just got better and better so you never know, looking forward to the new era.
If Edwards and Ward is absolutely great at everything explain this then. When Konate was signed, one of the red flags raised was his injury record, which apparently was ignored. Well, 3 seasons in and guess what the biggest concern is with Konate: his injury record.
And if the stories are to be believed they also wanted Nkunku over Nunez. And guess what's the biggest concern with Nkunku over the last couple of seasons: his injury record.
That's on top on Keita who again was signed from RB Leipzig. And what was one of his biggest issues at Liverpool: his freaking injury record!
So they have to 100% perfect to be considered great at their job?
@@40yearoldvirgil15 of course not. But that's a reminder that they have made mistakes like everyone else.
@@JR-sj1jzthey signed salah mane and firminho your whole argument is dead just off of my three examples. You cherry picked their worst signings but ignored all of their best
@heavenshound6775 The video was full of cherry-picked situations that showed where Klopp and Ljinders were wrong. And I'm not seeing you complain about that.
All i did was balance it out by highlighting situations when Edwards and Ward also got it wrong too. And with all due respect but Firmino, Salah and Mane are signings from at least 7 seasons ago. Only a couple remain of that generation. They should be judged based on the success of the newer generation. The likes of Diaz, Konate, Gakpo, Mac Allister, etc
@@JR-sj1jz bore off
Someone in the video said that LFC is too big for Slot, but what is the difference between Slot and Amorim?
Amorin has big ambition, slot seems like a manager who'll settle for top 4 even if we have the best squad (I don't even think Ajax would consider hiring him)
@MrLove717 is this the same Amorin who did an interview with West Ham? Yeah, big ambition indeed. Unlike Slot on the other hand backed himself when he said no to Spurs. That took balls and I like that.
So huge to quantify
@@MrLove717😂😂😂
@@40yearoldvirgil15 who knows? But I hope slot works out well for us and we win trophies in abundance 😂
Craig, some good info 👍
Love your vids and your options new Era
Ward & Edwards not into "RELATIONSHIP" football,they want to win trophies
Trophies are what matters to the fans.If you expect loyalty and people spending their hard earned money on tickets,you have to win trophies.Loyalty to non performers is disgusting
What a load of bullcrap! So everyone should support Man City now, because noone else wins anything, and it is disgusting supporting teams without trophies?
Go suck on a pacifier, because you must be 3 tops.
I just watched the Spurs vs Burney game, well the last 20 mins of it. Burnley were denied a penalty in the last few mins when their player was clipped in the box. VAR did nothing. Brought back memories of the Spurs game and made me wonder. Is there a pro-Spurs bias in the VAR officials? The Spurs game where we were robbed and ended the game with 9 men was so egregious that it's hard to just pass it off as human error. I wonder if there is a stat on how many contentious decisions Spurs have gotten against opponents from VAR this season.
Mike Edwards and Jurgen Klopp both wanted the final say on transfers, so one of them had to go, simple logic!!
New era coming and hopefully a change in fortunes,let’s send Jurgen off with the credit he deserves,but back room team is vital and all coming back is a plus
Do you glad that all medical staff are also leaving?
@@hashshashiinme7656 yeah I'm glad, our players were frequently injured in weird times with our current medical team so we need a new one
@@MrLove717 also john achterberg and konrmayer are leaving too
Clearly Edwards and his team are really smart, calculating and structured in their planning and approach.
I believe thats fantastic.
But they overlooked the Klopp factor in this. The players signed0 became successful because Klopp brought out the best in them. Thats a world class coach. I hope Slot is that too. Because if he isnt able to do that, the stats and strategies wont matter at all and performances will suffer.
But I'm hoping for the best.
As for Real Madrid., they sign world class players and the best upcoming players in South America and Europe.
LFC since FSG has been signing bargains and value for money players with rarely splashing cash.
World class players win you trophies with the right coach
Even the thiago signing they way they made it out in the contract was top notch work ❤❤
Posch from Bologna FC plays RB & CB , could be a bargain & scored today against Napoli
The thing is here, yes Michael Edwards did good research work, but also Jurgen got more out of players than most other managers. Were all these players hidden gems, or was Jurgen making superstars out of average players (think Hendo). I think it was a combination of the two. We've seen Jurgen create success at other clubs, without these guys. We haven't seen these guys create success without a superstar manager. I do however agree with the Real Madrid part where they swop managers and maintain success. They however buy superstars. Jurgen deserves to be at a club that gives him an unlimited budget, the world deserves to see what he's capable of with a Pep budget.
It's a business..
People have conflicts ..
This is no different from any other business..
Why are we making a deal about this
I really hope this is true about Edwards trying to 'model' Liverpool going forward on Real Madrid. They are clearly the go to Club in the world and are building a new Galactico era
Conformism at its highest level!😊
To be honest I like the idea of a well oiled machine.
Well, makes sense that Ljinders never stood a chance despite what all of us wanted with Edward’s, Ljinders disagreement and mocking Edward’s cost him the managerial position that he clearly should have been head of class on
where can i read this my self?
Who cares why he left, he’s back and we have the future ahead of us.
Just gonna ignore how those two clowns operated whilst Rodgers was manager? Ok
@@Synysterjmz Rogers was out of his depth and wanted control of everything - he didn't have the managerial credentials to demand control of player transfers and also it wasn't the clubs strategy. Edwards was doing the job the club asked of him.
Since Rogers left I think we can see what Roger level truly was, and we can see the work Edwards has done for LFC. If thats the work of a clown, I'm down with the circus.
Rogers was a stepping stone to Klopp.
Mismatched Hodgeson to caretaker Kenny, to rookie Rogers to world class manager Klopp.
@@chilled99 it’s easy to criticise Rodgers years after his tenure, but he didn’t have control of transfers; there was a committee, featuring Edwards and Ward. Let’s not forget, Rodgers came to LFC with the same sort of credentials as Di Zerbi, perhaps more and many have likened him to the LFC job. As for Slot, most hadn’t heard of him until a month ago. The point I’m making is that this watered down managerial role, with a lot of the footballing direction handled by Edwards, Ward and Hughes may not follow the same success as what we saw from them with Klopp in control. Yeah, they signed some great players, but they also signed some absolute and the ones that excelled did so because of Klopp.
Obviously I hope this change in set up is successful, but what I don’t want to see if Slot getting thrown under the bus when things go wrong.
@@Synysterjmz Rogers did get with the program. At the end of the day the club brought in a structure and he didn't want anyones advice on transfers. Time has proven him and those who were attacking the transfer committee to be wrong.
How does that make Edwards and Ward clowns? Why is it Klopp could work with them, who is a superior manager and won everything working with them and not too much since, but Rogers couldn't?
@@chilled99 well if you believe the reports, Klopp didn’t work well with them and is probably why the both initially left. It’s a bit of a coincidence that as soon as he decides to call time as Liverpool manager, they come running back. Perhaps clowns is too strong of a word, but bringing in Edwards, Ward and Slot to essentially do Klopp’s job just seems like too many chefs (ignoring Hughes here because he’s the sporting director). And are we really going to sit here and believe that Edwards overarching say on everything football, possibly undermining Slot in the process is a good way to run a club? That model might work if you’re Florentino Perez at Real Madrid and you have the money and pull to sign any player you desire; but at Liverpool, working within a moneyball approach to spending, in a league where Chelsea, City etc are allowed to flaunt FFP rules, I doubt it. Edward’s success is because of Klopp, let’s not forget that. I don’t doubt for a second that we’d have the same success in that period with any other sporting director working with Klopp. The same cannot be said for Edwards & Ward yet and it will be telling in the next season if Slot can imitate Klopp’s successful coaching under this managerial set up.
Im just happy with Michael Edwards being back and in a larger role. Michael Edwards makes FSG'S transfer policy work brilliantly. He can buy 3-4 players for 100 mill which people would scoff at but then the stats based analysis hes used would prove they'd be good signings. Up the reds! Up Arne! Up Michael Edwards!
Edward's power struggle for control at Lfc has become a realty. Hope he does not let himself down as a result of stubbornness or ego.
Can somebody explain why Klopp has such an soft spot for Pep Lijnders?
Lijnders got Buvac out and now we hear he got Edwards out.
He practically ruined the club.
So my question is Micheal Edward Michael Edward, what has he done for Liverpool lately other than buying players for cheap to save the owners money, purpose of football club is to win trophies
Raj Chauhan is an incredibly well connected individual 💯 ..
I agree
Edwards is the one who got salha in so he has a very good track record delboy edwards ..
Getting all these big positions in the board room won’t win football games against the elite it will come down to a special manger getting that extra 10% out of the players and a don’t think slot is up to that task hope I am wrong
We all know why they left...klopp won the power battle with the thiago signing
Pity youtube don't show the thumbs down anymore.
@@danieloneill9093 i take it you dont agree?
It's probably where ll klopps energy went after Edward left he was doing everything
So we're bigger than Man U. Huge haha. Loved the vid
Please I Need A Honest Answer From You.....Are You A Klopp Fan??
Great times are coming back to Liverpool Fc
I am worried about LFC next season. M. Edwards and all those guys, fine fine, very nice. But it is still just a fire brigade. Don't forget that Klopp made all those signings and youth products work. Why you think we won the league cup this season? It was kids, trained by Klopp.
I like the upcoming manager but when I read his profile I get angry at the owners. Again fleecing the club. He is known for over achieving with limited budget. He is a yes man. no doubt about it. I would have wished we got a Conte, Mourinho(Ok no Mourinho), Simeone kind of type in temporarily that berates the owners for small budget, gets the transfer fee, does not deliver trophies within in 2 years and gets sacked. Then Klopp comes back or Xabi if he is still performing.
Every press breifing of the coach next 2 years is how tight the budget is.
And I don't even want to mention the what seems to be the upcoming sales of players. Salah, Diaz, Nunez, even VVD and Trent are now all rumored to be leaving.
It is a fire brigade and if FSG gets 150 million in transfers in, it is 150 million budget. If we don't sell anyone however it will be like a net transfer of say 50 million.
Don't forget that first 4 full seasons Klopp had, they turned a transfer PROFIT in 3 of those seasons. Will next manager replicate that success on that tight budget, I seriously doubt it.
Bottom line, resist selling anyone, extend contracts etc.
Edwards the best
Edwards want good young talent to come in .. then Edwards should get his scouts out to stade rennes .. desire doue 18 .....
Raj is the footyDoctor not my title his,not a fan of Klopp signings it seems,
Amiron wanted full control and mega money
That's where his immaturity comes into play. He may have all the attributes you want, but having some dream that he's Jose Mourinho reincarnated has led to him losing one of the biggest jobs in world football. Flying back to Portugal with his tail between his legs
@@rakune7252 he’ll end up at Chelsea
I 100% believe klopp is leaving because Edwards and the crew are returning.
Don’t forget the players were trained by Kloop. So it could have been a bunch of mediocre players that Kloop made great. Most were rubbish after leaving Liverpool
New football will be coach ,and team sorting everything else out ,and players will be like cricket franchise moving around all over the world tournament to tournament
Finding it surprising that nobody has commented on the going to spy on Jurgen thing. I find that pretty classless, not the kind of person I want associated with our club. What the heck was the need for that no morality stuff? Everyone knew already what an amzing guy Klopp was. Ethics are important, something FSG have needed the fans to remind of them of too many times.
Klopp undermined Edwards and Ward
So? Klopp and lijnders did a brilliant job
@MrLove717 Don't undermine what Edwards and CO done behind the scenes
@@bon3s325 but it seems like you're undermining Klopp and co who were more involved directly with our success on the pitch turning average players to world class, Edward and co never did that
Slot is coming because he is cheap, willing to work with a little budget and won't rock the boat. He DID NOT turn down Spurs previously either. He didn't get the offer. Similar to Amorim with us this time. I fear for the post Klopp era. Slot is OK but he's not great. Amorim might just be.
He absolutely did turn them down and it’s well documented, including quotes directly from Slot
Calvete no te creo nada , ni frio. Ni tibio, voltiarepa ....
Buying player for Klopp is one thing, buying player for Slot is much more difficult. Edward just looked at was Dortmund was buying and copied that.
I can't see a Real Madrid model working in Liverpool. We are not in spain... If it was that easy then other English clubs and us would have done this a long time ago..
Who cares seriously
you liked it before... so now you chnage your tune.. ..lordy.
We need to copy Brighton model,tap youngsters from americas,salah will run down contract and get mega mega signing on and wages
Na Real's model is better, they buy players just before they go up a level and become world class, whereas Brighton buys players that require more development and time.
I’m soooo tired of the Edward’s love in with the fan base, for some bizarre reason you all think he’s great, how great was his signings under Rodgers was he part of the Carroll signing? Klopp has transformed mediocre players (hence their fall when they leave LFC) and for some bizarre reason everyone says Edward’s is responsible for this
Waffle waffle waffle
Look into who wanted which players, Klopp wanted Brandt and Edwards wanted Salah. Think we made the right decision.
Kenny signed Carroll and Suarez with the Torres money.
@Fergz2049 to be fair, Roy Hodgson was the man who identified Suarez for Liverpool.
@@ruairiwhite6303 possibly did, but he wasn't the one being photographed at their signing. 👍
Move on
Edwards is overrated
The Edwards and Julian Ward love fest from Liverpool fans is embarrassing. Did you all forget the dross these guys brought in when Rodgers was manager? This is a return of the transfer committee and Arne Slot is the fall guy.
All we should be doing now is giving Klopp a good send off and hoping Slot have a good start to next season.Stop being critical, you don't know the future.
So Craig honestly if u was manager n you got players picked for u wulith u havin no input or not much input you are not a yes man?????
As a manager, this would not work for me, I am the one that gets sacked for someone else picking players that don't fit how I want to play.
For me the manager has the final say and the team behind identity the options, go and get the players, sort the contracts etc