Jawa Engine overheating?? Not Really!!
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Jawa owners and few Jawa reviews spoke about the engine overheating. This video clarifies what others are calling as engine overheating is actually just a Myth. Different engines have their own optimum temperature and as long as the overheating indicator in the Jawa meter pod doesn't glow there is no problem with the Jawa engine.
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98 degree fahrenheit not celsius. 98 degree celsius roust our leg bro. Its fahrenheit. 98 f = 36 c
Hi Shivam, let me clarify your doubts from my experience in the automobile industry for the last 20+ years ( From working for a couple of automobile manufacturers, to running my own garage).
IC engine (internal combustion) as the name suggests works on principles of heat energy getting transformed into mechanical energy, where hot gases burning inside the combustion chamber of engine during the power stroke keeps the engine running and the vehicle in turn. This burning of gases (fuel air mixture) attains flame temperatures of close to 1000 degree CELSIUS (for petrol engine) inside the combustion chamber. Some of heat is lost(lost for good reasons) in scavenging of exhaust gases, some by the engine's lubricating oil itself, most is obsorbed by using metals with good heat dissipation coupled with either forced air cooling or an liquid cooling system and the rest is absorbed(absorbed for good reasons) by the fresh charge of fuel air mixture by the next intake stroke. This leaves with some temprature as constant (around 88-94 degree CELSIUS) on the surface parts of the engine which is considered as the best or optimum (not too hot.. not too cold) performance temperature of the engine.
This can be calculated in Fahrenheit too but the figures will be 200 degrees then.
Now let me explain in layman terms. Take 2 scenarios.
Scene 1: According to your calculation of 98 degree Fahrenheit (36 degree Celsius) which is almost the average temperature of Chennai throughout the year and most parts of our country during summer. Try touching objects like floors, walls or metal objects placed outdoors which are subjected to the same temperature( 36° C) and hence more or less carry the same temprature. You will not burn your hand as that's is 36° C.
Now
Scene 2: Ride / Drive your Bike / car for 10kms minimum and trying touching your engine or silencer. I would strongly recommend DON'T as that will burn your hand as that's anywhere around 90+ ° CELCIUS.
BTW Did you watch a vlog that was mentioning this Fahrenheit instead of CELCIUS. I know there is one on CZcams about Jawa.
Anyways, Hope the above information helps.
Happy Riding 🤘
Thank you for the information. I wrote this because according to the jawa dealership the radiator starts cooling the engine when it reaches to 98 degree fahrenheit until it decreases to 90 fahrenheit.
@@shivam619309 No worries mate!. don't trust all those who hold spanners in their hands these days. Most do it as as 9 to 6 job. Next time you can ask the showroom guy to touch the engine for 1 minute after the bikes is run for 10Kms. All his doubts about celcius and Fahrenheit will get cleared in that 1 minute. My showroom guy was struggling to put on the side panel of my Jawa after giving me the so called Demo of things. Finally I had to take it from him to do the job myself at the first go..
Anyways, like always.. cheers and happy riding 🤘
No it ks 98 degree c
Yeah, we made peace on the F and C confusion long back 😅
Very logical explanation finally from someone who understands and belongs to the automobile industry I guess. otherwise most people are making vloggs without any knowledge or half knowledge of the subject. Keep making such informative videos.
Thank u ma'am for your kind words of appreciation.
Happy riding!!
For everybody's information Jawa is the only bike which has achieved equal numbers in Torque and Power by increasing Compression Ratio without increasing the size of the bore and stroke.
Any engine which has increased Compression ratio will defined tend to heat more.
Perfect technical clarification for dummies 😉... Great video.. thanks a lot.
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Hi Raj.. This video makes a lot of sense and gives clarity.. Keep em coming mate.. Cheers
Hi Bro, thank you for watching and writing back. Please Subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
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As always very detailed explanation. As Jawa is trending topping many youtubers providing lots of useless information, but you have always genioun and detailed information.
Thanks Raj
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Hey Raj ! Cleanly explained about engine heat and it’s awareness. Thanks 👍
Thanks mate!
It’s an old video . I recently purchased a bobber and had similar doubt about heating issue ..
But u seem to have clarified it perfectly for me
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Thanks Raj for such a detail explanation. I was also under this heating misconception of JAWA. Now i can go for it.
Yes Nasir.. this is purely a misconception.. you can definitely go for one of these lovely machines.
Happy riding!!
Well done and nicely explained,
Answers what, why and how about misconception...
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Have run it for 12.5 k on rough and mountain terrain and no probs at all ever!
Many thanks for the yet another informative video...thnx dude
Hey bro, thank you very much for your kind and appreciative words always..
Happy riding!!!
Thanks Buddy . i am really waiting fr a video on heating issue. Nw my doubts are cleared
Thanks Anil, please subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
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@@RajkaGarage ALREADY DID BUDDY
Cheers mate!! 😊
Thanks for your informative video.. 🙏🏻
Raj, very clear and technical explanation. Thanks bro. Can you review latest Suzuki baleno? I am planning to buy .
Hi Rohan, thank you for your kind words of appreciation. I will surely make one on the new Baleno. Stay tuned.
Pretty informative and great review. Few owners are complaining about oil leak issues due to a weak or low quality oil seal rubber, does this holds true ?
Thanks buddy... Yes it's true that the tappet cover leaks oils. We have this (though not a intense one) on both our bikes. The rubber gasket material is not designed keeping in mind the engine temperature and characteristics of fully synthetic engine oil which as per it's characteristics generates high pressure unlike mineral oils and hence will try to escape any loops in the system.
Cheer and Happy Riding 🤘
@@RajkaGarage Thanks, bro. In such case, should I look for Kawasaki or Honda over this ?
No jawa or bike reviewer for that matter has given us information on the placement of the radiator fan! Good one! Waiting for your technical review on the Benelli Imperiale 400 and RE 650 twins if you can get your hands on them!
Hey Santosh, thanks again.. hope you saw my Benelli Imperiale first impression video where the Imp 400 is sharing screen with my JAWA and RE Classic Chrome 500.
I have also inked down a high level technical comparison of the 3 on my blogsite. Pasting the link for both the blog and the video, if that interests you.
greasystuff.com/2019/11/22/royal-enfield-jawa-benelli-fight-of-the-titans/
czcams.com/video/FWZGz3ceAqI/video.html
@@RajkaGarage I saw the video and read the blog too! Loved the way you presented the information. What I am waiting for is your ride impressions on the Imperiale and the 650 twins when you can get a test ride. Once you ride them maybe you could provide us more technical insights (thinking is that riding might give us more info. Correct me if I am wrong)! Cheers!
I have noticed that my jawa is not idling properly, had hold clutch and raise the accerlator few times for the engine to not stop like i am riding an old carborator. Any idea why it might happen few times
Hi Tarun, is this happening every time you cold start? And do you crank the engine and move the bike immediately? If yes, then let the engine always warm up for a minute atleast (this is also a good practice to idle warm the engine and let the oil reach the head area of the engine before you start moving. Remember it takes atleast 20-30 secs for the oil to reach the tappet area in the head). One of the reason the Jawa may be showing these kind of flat spots in cold conditions could be because it's a BS6 engine. These engines are made to run on more leaner ratios (more parts of oxygen to Fuel) to kerb emissions and more leaner the engine, it will produce these flat spots. Most ECMs are tuned to read the temperature and alter the engine RPM accordingly (+200/300 RPM in cold start).
Or
Is the engine RPM fluctuating while idling even while warm. If yes, you need to see the service centre as improper tappets settings is responsible for that, which i my opinion may not be the case for a factory set engine.
Hope you can get some clue from this information. Please Subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
Happy Riding!!
Nice video! Thanks for the knowledge
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Very simplistic blog...👍
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Nice... One other video from other jawa user said there is sensor which controls the speed of the engine is over heated...I actually believed him until he messed up degree celcius and fahrenheit... He said 115 fahrenheit the engine heats...dumbass that is 46 degrees Celsius... The temperature that most cities reach these days in summer.... Amazing fools out-there who make videos for sake of publicity...and people follow such people and take their words of advice...
Hi Bro, thank you pointing it out. Please Subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
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@@RajkaGarage subscribed just now after watching all your videos... Great content...
@@shiftertainment6915 Thank you very much!!
Sir I am 6.3 feet rider does this is comfortable to be
Hi Aravinda, first of all let me tell you, that's a great god given gift i must say being 6.3 feet tall. Talking about the comfort, the Jawa has a straight forward handlebar which will take care of your upper half with your hands bent in the perfect obtuse angle( that's the ideal angle from comfort and comfortably maneuvering perspective which accounts for safety). But coming down due to your height your legs may bend backwards knees below to fit on the foot pegs which may cause some knee pain in long rides. There can be a way around this by adding a layer of high density pu foam to the seat cushion will increase the height little bit and will also take care of the stiff stock seat of the Jawa. I would recommend try your hands on one of test models and see if you feel comfortable in the above 2 things i mentioned (Arms and Knees). I hope this helps. Please Subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
Happy Riding!!
The check engine light turned on after 5 minutes in rain. What should I do as the service center is very far away. Is there anything I can do or how long can I wait before going to service center. Thanks for you videos
Hi Tarun, that's interesting as it goes to prove (though not a general statement) that the Jawa's electricals can respond delicately to rainy conditions. CIL lights are not necessarily a reason to worry about always. They can turn on if any wires or intake/ exhaust sensors malfunction due to wet weather etc. You can ride the bike as long as it in not miss firing, emitting unusual odour from the exhaust or showing in any flactuations in the engine RPM. But
Take the bike to your dealer at the available opportunity for a diagnosis.
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@@RajkaGarage thanks for your time and knowledge
@@tarunbinny4u anytime bro.. cheers
I am planning to buy, and I've seen that people are complaining the faulty sensor of fuel gauge. Can you help on this?
Nishit Khandelwal switch it off and on it again sometimes it works all right. For faulty fuel meter you can fill ur tank to full and when reserve comes up you can fill it again when it shows low fuel indicator.
The bikes which are being delivered nowadays are not facing any fuel gauge issue, as I got my jawa delivered 1 week ago and its perfect.
I have no such issues in my JAWA, fuel gauge showing correct reading,
If bike is inclined then only it show wrong reading. Straight bike doesn't has.
And its noting like an issue because some bikes like RE does not even has fuel indicator.
I am not able to drive my bike when I wear slippers it’s heats badly to my leg
I got that light, what to do?
Get the bike checked from the service center buddy. It can be either the thermostat or faulty radiator fan. If this light comes in that means engine is overheating.
thanks for the information
Jawa is no doubt a good company since 1929 but new jawa is visually good ,I think,,as per various comments
Subscribe karna to banta hai Sir...
Cleared my misconception... Thanks Sir
Ouch.... My rule of buying the bike let it hit the road first then take opinion of genuine buyers....
You are absolutely right bro. That's the thumb rule especially for a new manufacturer coming up with something new. Just a caution with cult followers, generally RE owners will never have any bad opinion about their beloved RE. Dominar and KTM owners will sing gaga about their machines and even Pulsar owner owners will praise it 'as if' it is more reliable and popular than a RX100. So getting a genuine feedback can be little tricky as these are just users and owners of their beloved machines.
Jyada gyan pelne se eska heating issue solve nahi hoga
Bike engin really heats too much
I know the bike heats like any other High revving engine. And I also know that Jawa has too many other issues, but somehow 'today' I realised, that few Jawa buyers like you deserve this junk of metal machine due to kind of attitude you have. A weird mentality of being disrespectful and thinking we are cool by using such language.
This is not a shitty travel blog channel to talk the 'OH bhaisahab' wala shit. This is a technical channel, don't waste your time here. It's beyond your intellectual capacity.
Rusting issues?
Hi Bro, the Jawa, just like the Royal Enfield has a lot of metal parts unlike plastic, in most of the bikes these days and hence may tend to show some rusting during monsoon. Moreover the Jawa has a lot of chrome parts on it which needs to be protected from rusting by applying anti rust oil on it. Chain Sprocket, silencer parts may tend to show rust if bike is not used in rainy season. So please apply anti rust oil on all the metal and chrome parts. I do that every year to my RE Chrome 500 and Yamaha RX 100. Hope this helps and please subscribe to my channel for informative content on automobiles.
Happy riding.
Tnx bro
Can we attach 19 inch front and 18 inch back wheels in that rim
Hi Gokul, on the stock rim, you cannot install bigger diameter tyres. Also please do not put any other wheel and tyre size on the bike for 2 technical reasons. 1. Change in front tyre/rim diameter will give incorrect Speedo reading as the Speedometer is callibrated to the wheel diameter. 2. Change in Rear diameter will have adverse effects on the gearbox in the long run (though only visible under microscopic level). It will have negative impact on the acceleration (pickup) but slight improvement on top speed and mileage. But not advisable over all.
Happy riding!!
Bro
Tell about seat modified
Its look really too good,but dont have any driving experience
Hi Vikrant, it's good in terms of riding just that may need special care and attention like a RE and given the fact that even the Harleys tend to break down, Retro biking and some small hiccups will always go hand in hand. Let's wait to see if it has better longevity than the RE atleast or not. Please Subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
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Sir mene 24th December ko jawa classic maroon single channel ABS book kari thi
Lekin dellivery kab milegi uska kuchh pata nahi
To sir kya aap muje bata sakte ho k dellivery kab milegi
Thanks
Hi Montu, mere group mein 2 classic book ki hai on the 28th of November in Pune. Pune mein waiting period minimum 10 months hai aur baki sab jagah 9 months to minimum 8 months. Upar se Forty two ka production Classic se jyada hai aisa lag Raha hai kyunki jitne bhi reviews aur on road Jawa hai woh Forty two hai with rare instance of a Classic. Btw aapka location kya hai.. They seems to have no planning at all. But let's hope hum sabko jyada wait karna na pade and we all get deliveries of our Jawa soon. Also please subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
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Hi Raj, I have Jawa Classic maroon. From the day 2, there is huge squeaking sound at rare drum. I don;t understand why this is happening , It was almost one week in the showroom , guys said it is been rectified and resolved. But It didn't . Can you please help me out on this.
Hi Karthik, this noise comes when there asbestos material on the brake shoes have some hard particulates in it. Ask the service centre to nicely file them also sand the brake drum with a good 80 number sand paper. Also if possible get the brake plate (on which the brake liners fit) replaced under warranty. If the brake shoes are not sitting firmly inside the brake plate at both the pivoting end and Cam side even then this squeaking noise may come. If the problem still persists then I am sorry to say that this may be again due to poor quality parts from Jawa.
Happy Riding 🤘
Raj sir meri jawa me apn bike on off karte hai to selfe ki cut karke jo awaj aati hai use koi problem to nhi
Nahi bhai..woh khat wali ajwaz normal hai.. so koi tension nahi..
Which colour is best for jawa classic?
Jawa Grey is a head turner.. telling from my experience now.. people cannot avoid looking at it. Had similar experience when I had bought my RE Classic White (Ash colour). Looks outstanding in crowd.
Happy Riding 🤘
Ok and did you see that colour directly? ... please make video on colours coz people are confused between colours.
@@ganjaboy3176 yes mate.. my bro and another friend got their Jawa grey on the 15th of August. Have posted a video on the delivery.
@@RajkaGarage go for Grey, I have one.
I have no such Heating issues completed 1st service yesterday
Cool.. that heating is kind of the characteristics of this engine and is getting better as it's putting miles on the speedometer..
Cheers and Happy Riding 🤘
Or haa sir log kehte hai bullet lena thi mera dimag kharab karte koi achi bat batao sir plz
Mera kehna ye hai sir arag or bike ki tulna kare to bahut jaldi garam hoti h
Exactly 🤟
Ha who to hai
Mera bike band ho janta ha when in neutrality or when I shifted the gears
Yes, even we are facing this issue. The engine cuts off abruptly.. will be taking to the service center soon. I am going to ask them to remap the ECM. Will let you know if that works..
Cheers and Happy riding 🤘
Bro before 1st service in jawa 1000km
We can drive above 80 kmp on speed
Hi Sam, i would strictly recommend sticking to speeds of 60KMPH till atleast the first 2000 kms. This is called the running-in or Engine Rolation period when all your frictional parts are trying to set with each other like in a marriage.
What you do in this crucial period is how your machine will behave like for the rest of its life. One of the best thing of doing an engine running-in is start and keep the engine running for atleast 2 hours in fast idle speed immediately after delivery. This is one of the best ways which we normally do in a workshop for newly built engines and ensures that the engine is not subjected to the loads which are observed while driving in traffic/ on road (abrupt gear shifting/braking etc). Just a catch while you do this, put 2 table fans on either side of the engine for extra cooling as the engine will tend to go hot in a stationary bike. Hope this helps.
Happy riding!!
Coolant boiling point is not 100° C, and jawa not have thermostat it have continue flow of coolant through radiator to head it only have sensor of fan, (thermostat function is different it bupass the coolant) and last i think maybee at 95° or 98°c of degrees sensor is activate or it can be high
Hi..In my video I have never mentioned about the Jawa having a ' WAX Thermostat' I am referring to the electrical Temperature Sensor (T Sensor) for switch on/off of the radiator fan. Point no 2. I didn't even mention about coolant's boiling point, I said waters boiling point. Coolant's boiling point can differ from brand to brand and is generally somewhere between 105°C to 115°C (but to be honest in my 20+ of experience never bothered to do a bench test of coolant's boiling point and no one dares to open the radiator cap once the engine is hot) and last, again I said generally the temperature is 80-90°C and didn't mention that this the Jawa's optimum temperature. Anyways the video overall is to clarify the 'myth' of Jawa's overheating.
Trust this helps.
Happy Riding 🤘
@@RajkaGarage Nice to talk with you, i have find alignment problem in my jawa 42, even 3-4 more jawa have same problem in showroom when i tested (while riding 60-80 release the hande and bike goes slightly left) after finding all possibilty professional find that rear tire is not in-line with front tire. I found this problem in all jawa's at showroom those were in same trailer truck.
Plz Make a video on this .....
@@TanudeepSingh Hi Tanudeep, same here.. even I did notice this slight pulling of left side on both the bikes we have. The problem seems to be a little understeer at slow speeds due to a fat front tyre and the handle tends to drop towards leftish side of the bike. But no such problem at high speed. I have tried riding without hands on the handlebar to test this. But will surely observe closely and make a video soon. It's been a long time I made a video as currently I am down a back pain and hence was on bed rest for sometime.
Cheers mate..
@@RajkaGarage Get well soon Raj, today i got one more problem bike indicates ECU-MIL light, it goes stop at 20kmph. 😓
@@TanudeepSinghThanks bro.. The MIL indicates that The next thing that might happen to your machine is a Lambda sensor failure. I got to know that every 5 out of 10 bikes are getting the lambda replacement and all the 15 samples I saw appeared to be roasted. Did you observe this while riding in heavy traffic. As I feel this is associated with Engine Heating. Jawa folks seriously need to rethink on the fans 'switch on' duration. It needs to run for some more time than its current duration.
Fuel gauge not working properly.
Hi Nitish, thank you for watching and writing back. The fuel gauge is a analogue signal fuel gauge and will show readings that are not very accurate (and in the Jawa's case it seems to be over sensitive). If you park on the side stand or during braking the fuel level may show inaccurate reading. There are also various other drawbacks of analogue signal fuel gauges. Keep an eye on the Fuel low level indicator light in the Speedometer. If that comes on, you need to refuel as riding long with that light on will damage your fuel pump. Hope this information helps and please subscribe to my channel for more informative content on automobiles.
Happy riding!!
But the problem is i cant keep my legs for roasting..! Its unbearable to me.. It heats a lot.
If you ride mostly in city traffic, then this will be natural. Many, including superbikes become unbearable to ride in city traffic. You can't even touch thier chassis in such conditions.
Baqwass bike hai engine 👎👎
Rust ka problem ho raha hai I saw few videos.. I fear more since I have booked a Jawa classic..it has more chrome in it.
Do ceramic coating
Hi Raj sir,
Tumacha number milel ka sir..
Plz..
Hi Purushottam, mail me your number on thegreasystuff@gmail.com
Nasty dikhri black colour🤟
Black beauty as always..🤘
Jawa is big flop
Yeah rightttt😂🤦♂️
Really??
Lol no
Bro my bike engine sound become noisy after engine heating same bike. Why
I know you return from English country. Phir v ek request hain aapse, agar kripa karke suddh hindi main bol ne ki kashis kare to hamara upkar hoga.
नमस्ते राजू.. आपक फीडबॅक accha है. लेकिन में jhanbhujkar Hinglish mein video banatu hoon kyunki bohot sare log hai jinhe hindi samajh nahi aati. Aur bohot si technical batein hai jo automatically English mein nikal jati hai.. aur meri hindi bhi puri Mumbaiya wali hai isiliye shudh hindi Bolte Bolte angreezi nikal jati hai.. but koi nahi..mein zaroor koshish karunga ki mein jyada se jyada hindi bolu. Mere channel ko zaroor subscribe karna automobiles ke barein mein real technical videos dekhne ke liye.. Happy Riding!!
Bhaiya apko boiling point aur heating ke bare me knowledge ni hai...water ka boiling point 100 degrees hota hai... aluminium ka heating point 660 degree hota hai..isi lie kahte the ache se padh lo ni jindagi bher loko ko manipulate karna padega..aur khudka mjak udana padega
Kamles kumar ji.. mujhe water boiling point and aluminium melting ke bare kitna knowledge hai ye toh aap ne bata diya.. lekin aapko automobile engineering ki koi knowledge nahi ye bhi sath mein pata chal gaya. Jaise aluminium heating point aap ne Google pe 'padh' liya waise hi Google se hi pooch lete ki Automobile liquid cooling system kaise kaam karta hai. Aur TS 2:56 mein wohi bata raha hoon main.
Aur waise 660° aluminium ka HEATING point nahi MELTING point hai.. Heating or Melting mein utna hi farak hota hai..jitna Google University se ratta marne mein aur practically hath kale karke knowledge kamane mein hota hai..
I generally don't reply in such manner..but you are a special case.
Overheating is only a ploy to sabotage the Jawa by paid PR by cheap CZcamsrs who don't know shit about mechanical engineering and technology.
( And you can easily understood yourself which companies benefit from this!)
Personally I have Not noticed any such overheating (in real technical terms) and all the heating that the Jawa has is its engine own charecterstics or optimum running temperature. (Pasting a link below where in the initial days I have tried to explain the myth related to Jawa's overheating)
In the past when the bike was launched I did see some videos talking about the Jawa getting overheating issues but haven't seen any of late.
honestly speaking I have now 3 Jawa in close circles ( one just added last Sunday) and in terms of quality..Jawa needs to act and act fast and real world coz there are several petty issues which keep and creeping up every now and then. Paint coming off the bike after a wash for the so called quality improved parts is a serious issue. My battery has been replaced 3 times before finally replacing the rectifier unit.
About paid PR not sure if there is anything really called as paid PR for CZcamsrs.. who will sponsor such stupid things.. when we all know opinions /conclusions could be someone's personal ones and not necessarily based on facts..
Cheers and Happy Riding 🤘
czcams.com/video/kt9wEZcWx40/video.html
Ye to khud ko engineers se bhi jyada hosiyar samjh raha , kuch soch samjhkar hi aisa design kiye honge
Hello Anil, 20+ years jab iss field mein Kam karke..Honda jaise company ke product strategy team mein Kam karke.. mein hakkh ke sath bol sakta Hoon ki design flaw hai.. aise aur bhi design flaws hai jiska ek example tum bhi check kar sakte ho.. kabhi kisi Jawa Classic pe riding position pe baithkar speedometer mein 50-60 kms Wala digit padhne try karna..nahi pad payega.. meine ek 6 feet 3 inch height wale bande ko bhi bithake try Kiya.. wahan speedometer ka headlight dome ke angle galat ho Gaya hai.. ye just ek example hai Jo koi bhi non technical insan bhi Bata sakta hai.. baki engine level ki cheeze hum jaise 'old school' engineers pe rehne do.. anyway cheers and happy riding 🤘
bhai respect someone's knowledge and efforts .