Why Rental Car Companies Are Ditching Electric Vehicles for Gas Cars
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Rental-car company is the latest to be hit by weak demand for electric cars. Hertz Global Holdings Inc. said Thursday it is selling about 20,000 electric vehicles from its fleet, or about one-third of the total, in the latest sign that the EV revolution is stalling amid weak demand from consumers.
The move is aimed at better balancing supply and expected demand for EVs, allowing the car-rental company to scrap a disproportionate number of lower-margin rentals and reduce damage expenses associated with EVs.
Collision and damage costs for EVs remained high in the fourth quarter, Hertz said in a regulatory filing. That’s because EVs require special tools and parts and specialist knowledge to repair after a crash, more so than traditional gas-powered vehicles.
The charge is on top of the depreciation costs the company expects to record in the quarter in the ordinary course of managing its fleet.
Hertz will continue to offer EVs but will implement measures to boost profitability, including by expanding infrastructure such as charging stations and expanding relationships with EV makers, particularly as it relates to more affordable access to parts and labor, the company said.
Hertz will reinvest in additional internal-combustion-engine vehicles and expects to improve profits or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, across 2024, as vehicles are rotated.
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No business traveler in his right mind would rent one of these over a gas powered car, just the thought of running late for a flight and then realize that you didn’t charge it back up!
Time is money in business car rental and vacation rental.
Also there was a much higher collision rate in their EV fleet. Some were renting them to race and performance drive for a one time thrill...but did not have familiarity and driving skill to match their speed or acceleration
There is also the novelty factor of isn't this interesting....but once is enough for that.
Hertz bought a bunch of Priuses 20 years ago. People got to try them and some decided to buy them later...but a dangerously overpowered race sedan those were not and Toyota had a stockpile of repair parts...Tesla does not.
Speak for yourself I only rent evs on business trips for the last year and I’ve never had issues
Rental car companies will charge you for a full tank even if you only need 5gal, but it a convenient fee
AJtheceo... he didn't say "nobody"..he said "nobody in their right mind".
It's another way of saying you are crazy.
@@tom1949213 I had a rental car a few months back. The rental employee came out & recorded how much gas was in it. And told me to bring it back with the same amount of gas.
Right on point, finding a charging station and spending hours charging the vehicle. Not in my world.
Good thing your well researched. Charging stations are literally everywhere. Most EVs will tell you where to go to charge. The teslas take less than 20 mins to get over 200miles of charge. So yeah... you wanna try that comment again?
I know you believe everything the republicans say, but it's time to realize you're just an idiot
@@g-urts5518
20 minutes for 200 miles isn't good. It's definitely not smart to go on a road trip and plan on getting whatever your maximum range is, you would stop in between that max range. (If my max range in a gas vehicle is 50 miles I'm generally not going to try to go that 50 miles it's time to stop asap) so with a smaller overall range and (currently) less opportunities to charge than gas stations you would be very silly think any reletivly long road trip in an ev car will go as well as with gas. Possible yes but undeniably it's going to add significant time to long trips...and long trips suck enough already.
But Tesla rich spoil kids told us how they love their cars. Now we are in the real world and real people have to deal with the issues we raised years ago.
Not that many chargers let you charge a EV in 20minutes. That is if they give you like 200kWh+ charging, but most here are at most 50kWh, so that Tesla Model S is charged in 2 hours. Many charging stations share charging capacty. so if you are alone, it goes fast.. if its 7 other cars, you dont get that many kWh
You do not need to find one with a Tesla.
Most people renting a car have a specific task to do in a specific time period.
If it's business or vacation, customers may not feel like experimenting with EVs.
I would rent an EV for my next vacation IF the resort I was staying at provided free EV Chargers. That, and if the rental cost wasn't over a $1000 for the week.
Hertz offered me a Tesla on a recent business trip to Houston. I took it just to see what it was like to drive one. The acceleration was a blast, however it took me 20 minutes to figure out how to adjust the side view mirrors. I had to keep an eye on my remaining charge, knowing that I would've probably been stranded if I ran out of battery. The major upside was no fuel surcharge for returning the car "empty".
A few months ago I had to rent a car at Hertz. They were running low on cars so they offered EV's at a reduced price. There were about 15 people waiting and not one of them took the EV. They chose to wait for a gas car.
re: "Most people renting a car have a specific task to do in a specific time period." bingo, only adults (not children) need apply here. re: "If it's business or vacation..." which if i were to hazard a guess, represents greater than 80% of what all travelers are doing. it was obvious "folly" for Hertz from the very beginning, for them to run out and buy a whopping 100K Electric Vehicles for an "other" rental segment, that couldn't possibly be more than 20% of their business. basically they went to Vegas "gambled" and THEY LOST (which goes some way at explaining why they went Bankrupt off Covid, where other Rental Co's did not).
For real, when I was renting a car on Turo the amount of available Teslas was crazy, but at the time I had a few days to enjoy and I was couch surfing that trip, so an electric car was out of the question. (I rented a Lexus UX btw, great car.)
Nobody wants to use their rental time sitting at a charge station
If you can find one.
Do you even own an ev?
Or renting a car that only does 50 miles in the cold weather.
Including at the last-minute when one is rushing back to the airport rental lot to make their flight home .
u dont need own one it is common sense@@Thelegendarybear
The government should NOT be funding the installation of charging stations. Charging stations should be open market just like gas stations.
Problem... No return on investment.
Don't worry. If Trump wins ev cars will definitely be put on hold
You act like oil and car companies havent been bailed out by the gov over the years.
Unfortunately when rival nations like China are heavily subsidizing their EV industry the US has no choice but to respond in equal measure
@@davianoinglesias5030 Why?
It's amazing to see people who are astounded that an all electric car has a number of downfalls, while people with common sense were aware of the downfalls from DAY 1.
Your talking about the average Jane or Joe. Not everyone sadly has common sense. I mean have you seen sone people on the net try to fill up a Tesa with gas. Common sense doesn't come with all humans.
The people with “ common sense “ need to educate themselves 🤔⚡
ikr...? 😅 it's SHOCKING (no pun intended) how "unobvious" all of this was to EV advocates. and really, i don't have a problem with that because often times as Human Beings we DO have to "live and learn" through our mistakes. however at the same time, the wisemen ALSO have a phrase that states: "Fools RUSH IN where Angels fear to tread..."
Yep, society is stupid AF.
It becomes a little more obvious when you travel to citites with charging stations. An realize you didn't see those before 😅 good he drives prices down tho
Let the market deside not the govt.
Let the people decide, not the government.
You voted for a communist.total gov.control.now do what you are told.
Couldn't agree more. The biggest problem I have is the misinformation surrounding EV's. They promote them as being "good" for the environment. This couldn't be further from the truth. The only difference is the propulsion system. A gas engine burns fuel to operate. An EV burns fuel to charge (in most areas). Oil production involves a form of mining. Battery manufacturing requires a form of mining. Both are made with tremendous amounts of plastics (a derivative of crude oil and natural gas). It could be argued that an EV is slightly less harmful to the environment but stating it is "good for the environment" is just false. But hey, "They can't put it on the internet if that isn't true.".
@@explorenaked there is no misinformation. There is misunderstanding. No one ever said it was not harmful to the environment. Its impact on the environment is just less harmful. And yes let the people decide and not the government. Bullshit. The younger people are more into the shift to EVs. The older generation does not want to accept that. And it's shameful. The younger generation get to decide what type of further they want not some 70 year old crying about how it used to be. I own an EV and gas vehicle. I prefer the gas on certain situations and the EV on another.
RIGHT!
OBAMA: "NEVER underestimate joes ability to F everything up"! Get joe out of it
Had a Tesla rental in Colorado Springs. The hotel didn't have a charger and the nearest one was in a parking deck a few miles away, which required a parking fee to get the car in there. The hourly charge rate was more expensive than gas. All the other chargers in the area either required me to download an app, they were level 1 or 2 only, or they just didn't work. I also had to leave an hour early for the airport for the last charge. No more EVs for me.
Welcome back to the sane side of society 👏
You didn’t do the proper research. You should have booked an hotel that has a charger on site. Problem solved.
@@Jetlife904 idiot sheep
@@nomader999 yeah if you don’t want an EV don’t rent one. But some of us enjoy driving and renting them. I did my research and Booked an hotel that offered charging for my rented EV and it was almost like having my own parking spot on site. And enjoyed my EV rental had a blast
@@Jetlife904Or don’t rent an EV and then you can book any hotel you want.
Who would want to wait for hours and hours to re-charge an EV.
At a supercharger it's 20- 30min
At home it's depends but if you are charging while you sleep it doesn't matter.
@@That-Guy_ superchargers destroy ur battery lifespan so thats like saying if you buy premium gas ur gas tank breaks faster. the total insanity of EV
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n
Not for Tesla's at least. There are 3rd party companies tracking the data from people's Teslas and overall the effects of supercharging is minimal. It's really about temperature management.
so let me get this straight up until the big ev frenzy it was a fact that slow charging a battery was better for the life of a battery but now thats not true? @@That-Guy_
It's easier and more convenient for these people then trying to find the dipstck.
I bought a BMW EV in 2021 and then relocated to the Detroit area. There was no charging at work (and I work for one of the big 3) and few around town. It wasn’t convenient so I swapped it for a 2023 ICE vehicle. Looking at insurance increases and the easy of damaging the battery, I don’t see me giving EV another try for at least another decade.
No taxpayer money should be paying for any infrastructure to charge
or oil subsidies
Totally agree, everything should be allowed to run or fail on its merits.
Let’s stop the 20% tax cuts for the oil industry while we are at it then…
So.. you’re ok paying through the nose for gas,
And you’re ok with the government subsidizing gas companies..
Educate yourself 🤔
@@cback94 I'm not OK with subsidizing EV purchases, Electricity has gone up in price maybe you need to educate yourself about that, not only that but trade in values on EV's are dropping, and EVs really aren't green, they are nasty.
⚠⚠RENTED a chevy bolt in LA to try out an EV. Didn't care for all the range worries and planning. Plus, in the Bolt..if you go above 70mph, eats up KW about 20 % faster. Would prefer not to rent again!
Thanks for sharing your story
They say lose 30% of range at 5 F, but they never say lose 50% at -10 F probably?. My drive Minneapolis to Winnipeg was hell and upon arrival just borrowed normal car for month. For most of Canada and the 50m US above Denver to Boston line the EV winter range literally will be 50% for months, 100 miles of range? To go S to N in MN to Winnipeg was 7 freaking charge ups.... Hiding this 50% loss for us Northerners is bad, my Mom at Ford just keeps being told 30% at 5 F, but she's in freaking N Minneapolis so will she have 50%, 45%, 30% in deep February... It's so weird to be denied info in our modern world.
You rented one of the worst BEVs
Life is too short to be in a recharging station
15 mins yea what a stressful time.
lmao it's not just 15 mins, you need to factor in the time you wait for an available charger and the time you wait for people to come back to their cars, and also that's assuming the charger will even work in cold temperatures@@kylereese4822
@@kylereese4822Have you heard the news on Chicago ev drivers lately? 🤔
They'd do anything for a "15 minute" charge 😂
@@kylereese4822 15 min is eternity. Compared to 2 min
yeah go get a bicycle
I had 2 teslas. After last winter, I sold both of them. In the winter, you lose a good 30-50% of range if it’s cold. The tires were terrible to. I had to get new tires on the S Plaid after 18k miles. They bald easily! I went back to gas and can’t be happier.
Last year Hertz kept pestering me to rent an EV. When I'm on a work trip driving all over the place, the last thing I want is to have to deal with potential EV issues. Also, I hadn't even thought about having to return the vehicle charged. That sounds like sheer idiocy. It's hard enough to find a convenient gas station to refuel prior to returning a car. Why would someone opt for having to locate an EV charging station and build in time to wait for the vehicle to charge prior to catching a flight? Daft.
You have to worry about an ICE not filled up with gas. You idiots make points that have no merit at all.
re: "Last year Hertz kept pestering me to rent an EV." while i have on occasion rented from other companies, however for the last 30 years my "go to" has always been "green" ie, ENTERPRISE.
Hertz is now selling off , most of their EV'S.
Rented a low mile 2022 Model Y in California since I was considering buying one. So glad I gave it a trial run on a two week vacation talk about a vacation planned around the car.... Even in cali it was a massive hassle to get it charged. Due to it being summer the batteries and a/c weren't very happy. The build quality was mehh and the performance seemed varied at times too... With these things exploding and burning houses down glad I walked away from that idea!
thanx for your input... but they dont burn and explode - thats a meem... with ice vehicles, you have a real problem on that department though
I live in California and have had a tesla for 5yrs. Absolutely no problem finding charging stations at all. Haven't seen 1 story about one burning a house down.
@@atg1338 yes i havent either, and no stories of cellphones burning houses down neither.. but ice vehicles-different story (London luton inferno recently)
@@siitan83 because you're a Kool aid drinking idiot
Don't go spreading misinformation. Electric cars burning are lot less likely compared to ICE cats and mostly happened with a bad batch of LG chem batteries.
I am afraid that we will have fields and forests full of such abandoned crap.
And forests cut down for wind and solar power.
We already do.
recycle cars use them for pet homes a dumb investment egg cars battery crap or eventually they were suppose to drive by themselves and stations are full but no one theres a mystery/ Good luck on new Nova cars!!
@@harrymills2770solar can go on existing roof and lots of windmills in plains where no forests exist...so not so much
If only we had some sort of government that could require recycling... look how long it took to get simple bottle bills pass because of all the whining by businesses aboit how it would hurt profits...by the way, Coke and Bud seem to be doing just fine profit-wise with mandatory recycling
Not to mention the EVs will have virtually no resale value as their battery warranties get close to expiring.
That’s just a flat out lie….
@@Audioremedy0785 explain how, I thought it was a good point , an ev with 90,000 miles
Might have a battery that’s all most out of warranty.
@@Dieguito507 the battery pack has a warrantee of 8 years and an expected high end life expectancy of 12+ years. The cost is currently £7k in the uk to replace the battery (less if you are just replacing part). In 10-12 years, given the increasing popularity of EVs this will be even less. The battery health can easily be diagnosed at time of sale. So it’s true that a warentee expiring impacts value to an extent. But to imply that it’s taking the value of a car to zero is just a lie.
@@Dieguito507 battery pack isnt everything letalone battery warranty... when some teslas now have their first ever service at 380k km (referring to Piero Longhi's model s for example) ... I would easily drive a long range version of a tesla for up to million km. AND! model s and x hold their value great. few years back when tesla was raising prices, some people resold their teslas for more money then they paid for it.
That is a nasty smelly lie
I'm a Hertz Gold Club member, travel and rent cars weekly for work.........I'd call Uber before renting an electric car - they use to offer them to me at no upgraded fee and I still PASSED. I'm in town for WORK not to charge a car......
It is not about the charging stations! It is about the cars themselves!
Its both
In the UK, charging infrastructure is a joke. Insufficient at best, and a lot of them don't even work. You need a myriad of different apps to use them, many of which won't download, and prices are astronomical. Works out at double the cost of diesel, if you have to charge away from home. Until things improve, EV ownership simply isn't viable for most people.
You have to plan your entire vacation around your car. Dumb.
There is a problem with the cars. First the batteries are more dangerous. Theyre more susceptible to damage and when damaged they can cause a fire that is much more difficult to put out. Manufacturers have been advising people to charge outside so if it catches fire your house doesnt burn down. Accidents are much more likely to total the vehicles due to battery damage. Repairer dont want to repair damaged packs because of liability. Which leaves replacement as the only viable option for many. Replacement of the pack means Replacement of all the heating and cooling systems as well as the battery managment system that monitors the heat and charge of the battery. This is prohibitively expensive. Used cars dont sell well. Its hard to sell a used ev when you cant get a good look at the battery internals or expect an expensive battery replacement.
I don't like the fact that African children are forced to mine this crap, get poisoned by the metals and die so some smug virtue signaller can claim they are saving the earth when co2 has zero effect on the climate considering that the concentration of co2 is closer to zero than one percent.
The sun has more effect on the planet's climate than Co2 does.
EV's in all forms should be rejected. Its old tech that didn't work in the 1800's, and yes, I have seen an EV from that time period, and it doesn't work now.
The option to disconnect, privacy and have total control of your personal vehicle, is paramount. Privacy and the right to repair is non-negotiable.
Is Biden getting rid of his Corvette and his armor-plated limos?
Yup - lol
What flavor ice cream?
How lame.... you are pathetic!
@@JAMESWUERTELE what a pathetic life you live.... bagging on someone for eating ice cream. ...people like you are what's wrong with this great country.
Why does Evs have to be political? Evs are great people who don’t own one just say whatever they think.
I live in Alberta Canada, and due to the cold weather the weather alerts system told everyone to unplug their electric cars ASAP, or there would be rolling blackouts 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
EV drivers are so naive, that it kinda makes me hate them quite a bit. Not gonna lie.
Gasoline cars become more fuel efficient in cold weather. Because the waste heat is used to heat the interior of the car which would otherwise be lost to the environment by the radiator. And with this artic freeze, everyone wants to stay warm. So the colder it gets, the more efficient the car becomes as that waste heat is recovered and repurposed.
You are obviously not a physicist.
@@OldManTony obviously you’re the only one that doesn’t get it.
WRONG... the engine has to work harder to burn the fuel thus burns more fuel. Fossil engines are at best 28% efficient electric motors are 97% efficient.
My tesla lasted one month with me these tard comments here just cover up the truth my model 3 would get 300 e miles of range in normal condition but in the winter that was almost cut in half around 170, that tard said ev 97 percent efficient 😅
well probably not but still way better than EVs that simply wouldn't charge and lose significant battery capacity in the cold
EVs are city toys for the rich
and just like that you made a bug eating socialist want it even more. finally he will be the elite
They're making pretty cheap, small EVs for getting around town. But not full sized cars and definitely not trucks.
Subsidized by the tax payers.
@@sorbabaric1 Oil is subsidised by the tax payer... they make millions of $ ever 60 seconds...
Problem with that is places like NYC parking garages don’t allow ev’s to park there. Weight and fire issues. Otherwise I agree they are perfect for rich city dwellers.
When you have to download a half dozen apps and have to wait and charge when you’re on vacation, it’s too much trouble.
I am curious. How old are you?
Imagine going on a road trip or vacation, being in a new city, and having to deal with charging...makes zero sense.
I get annoyed if I have to wait 10 minutes for a gas pump. I never want to wait an hour for a charger.
Interesting about Hertz dumping EVs. Makes sense though. They just want the cheapest per mile cost and just shows that even with less maintenance costs for ICE parts and pieces, the overall costs are still greater than a comparable ICE vehicle. And they really want them brought back with a full charge? That seems like a huge inconvenience for the renter.
Tire costs and maintenance issues are there issues along with renters not wanting them
@CarCoachReports Exactly. My long time car body shop repair friend wont touch them. Besides the high voltage, and wait for parts, a seemingly minor accident in the wrong areas can total these things.
Daft idea, running a real car on AA batteries, there are so many obvious flaws (that I've been telling anyone that'd listen for years) slowly people are seeing thru the carefully crafted BS. Nothing wrong with the principle but li-ion simply isn't the right solution. It's never going to work for buses and semis, which is where it's needed most, ICE cars don't pollute enough to warrant getting rid of ICE for 3rd rate EV's, those batteries would do more for the environment if they were used to take homes off grid.
All that and burning to the ground. Anyone see what happened at the Luton airport? It might have been a diesel hybrid that started it, EV’s finished the job.
EVERYBODY'S DUMPING THE ELECTRICAL VEHICLES...
Fossil fuels are still our best, most reliable and accessible energy source. They can also be very clean.
And they aren't fossil fuels, they are compressed methane, and they found tons of oil on a moon orbiting Saturn. Fossil fuel is actually green and renewable.
Fossil fuel will never be clean,must be living under a rock to not know about the massive oil spills in the oceans from tank Bunkers,Crude Oil line braking on land spilling millions of gallons per day.
@@darksideblues135 You mean titan? Because that moon has so much oil on it that its entire atmosphere is oil, it has entire lakes, rivers, and oceans of oil and it literally rains oil.
Fossil fuels, now that's another newly questionable topic. See video of world class scientist explaining that hydrocarbon fuels (fossil fuels) are created many miles further underground than humans can possibly go.
until they arent clean, they arent the best
Please talk about lithium fires. Who would want one of these in your garage??
in a year you probably have to confirm with your homeowner insurance if you have an EV lol
That's what I've been watching the last week and oh boy there has been many of them. The EVs will even reignite after it has been put out. Scary stuff
Yet EV fires are claimed to be very rare. EV charging stations are being installed in underground condo parkades with no considerations about insurance let alone fires.
@@andrewscasualmtb I haven't seen any fires put out, they wait for them to burn out. Lithium even burns under water. Poorly planned battery tech. Safety was the last thought.
That's the deal breaker right there. I would never charge an EV in my attached garage.
Love that Hertz is the company that caused the shortfall of model 3s available and caused the prices to skyrocket....they did this to themselves
20,000 EVs.
well now that they and other rental companies are dumping Teslas, you can imagine what's gonna happen to the prices
Wrong... Hertz started buying Teslas when vehicles were at peak prices. Didn't cause and shortages..... you are a typical lying EV hater
You mean the company that added $100 billion to Teslas valuation in one day? Where were the complaints then?
I will never buy a battery powered car.
When oil runs out in 50 years I bet you would buy one over walking or taking the bus…
@@Combat_Medic Oil is not going to run out in fifty years. 😆
You don’t complain about high gas prices, air pollution , health issues..🤔
Over my dead body, I’ll move to another state!
@@opencarry3860liberal are trying to scare us oil is going out,😅 lol.
When does the white house outfit their fleet to electric?
I think all parasite ... oops i mean politicians should set an example by flying from place to place in electric planes .... especially long distance flights piloted by ai 🤔
If you live in the city, an EV is the furthest thing from perfect. No house, no driveway, no charger at home, on street parking. The perfect ev owner is in the suburbs. In a moderate climate that doesn’t get too hot or too cold.
Dang! I liked EV's. It meant more gas for us who drive real cars.
😄 that's a good one!
real car? you mean those old weak frail, costly, maintenanceneeders? smelly, smokey noisy ones? :D ye those are real ones
@@siitan83 You sound like a liberal. LOL!
@@siitan83EVs fart like toys
@@siitan83When the gloves are off, and the sky is the limit, combustion cars annihilate EVs in every performance metric known to man. An electric vehicle is weak. Hybrids dominate the track (four-cylinder engines powering the rear wheels), V8s dominate acceleration, top speed, horsepower, and torque, Six-cylinder engines dominate the altitude climb, hybrids win the 24 Hours of Le Mans (V6's powering the rear wheels). An all electric vehicle will never dominate anything
No way in Hell owning an Electric vehicle.
Brandon is not getting his way on this !!!
It's not about Biden. Many nations in the world are Banning new gasoline vehicles in 6 years.
They've already reduced demand for gasoline by 2% which has been enough to significantly lower prices and prevent OPEC and Russia from Raising those prices again.
I am in an internal combustion vehicle for now but my next vehicle will be an electric vehicle. I think in about 3 years.
Go put your mask back on libturd
I think they’ll revoke license of station and wanted open electric charging station.
Grow up small brain boy. Ev work for some people and not all. I agree they shouldn't be forced but the Brandon thing is so lame and childish.
@@jacknguyen5677 thats bad
First time Tesla renters couldn’t figure out how to operate windshield wipers, radio, and other accessories. Also, many people think looking down at the center screen is awkward and dangerous.
Oh, and of course, the rental car agents have no clue how the EV works either, so there's nobody to show you how to drive it.
It is dangerous. Any distraction while driving can be fatal.
@@Steve_in_NJ. My Hertz agent in San Diego gave me a good briefing, downloaded the Tesla app on my iPhone so I could use the “key” and other features. Some app features are blocked to renters but at least I was helped. A friend with a Model 3 gave me some time with her car the day before. This all said, I think it would be very hard to arrive off an airplane in a strange city, handed a Tesla without any briefing unless the driver had prior Tesla experience. It would not be safe to operate without some tutoring.
And, it’s an embarrassment to drive around in one.
Imagine having a 4 hour journey and then having to add on another two hours for waiting and charging at a charging station (if there is one).
And that extra two hours if no one is charging. And if you start charging and a person starts charging too, your time increases again.
20-80% about 15-20 mins...
I have never spent more than 30 minutes at the charger. Keep making stuff up though.
@@Combat_Medic30 minutes is alot
It's doesn't take 2 hrs drama queen... 20 at a fast charge drama queen...
Why the hell I want to spend hours of my vacation waiting for car to get charged as well !!!
There it is,most people want nothing to do with EV’s
thats completely fine. go ride bikes!
Not true... they fit alot of people's lifestyles.
@@siitan83 you are not one of the most!
@@atg1338 exactly,but most people are not convinced.
mos people want fresh air, and im one of those. So BAN ICE ENGINGES FAAASSSST! thank you government
EV's simply aren't ready for Prime time and until they solve there Battery and charging challenges they are basically a niche vehicle. When a replacement Battery costs more than the cost of the car who is going to take the chance not to mention the Depreciation which is basically 50 % when you drive off the lot.
It never will be.
Musk fooled everyone with the left zealots, using climate BS and the end of the world.
Tesla has passed the 500-000 charging stations...
re: "EV's simply aren't ready for Prime time and until they solve there Battery and charging challenges" which ironically PRE-SUPPOSES that these issues even can be "solved" in the first place...? however this is NOT a forgone conclusion. welcome everybody to the "Law of Diminishing Returns", and welcome everybody to something known as the MYTH OF PROGRESS. unbeknownst, what EV advocates are "bumping up against" in the context of engineering is "The hard wall of REALITY" (aw crap). if you guys haven't figured it out yet, Elon Musk is NOT remotely a "classically trained" Engineer in terms of Math, Physics, Chemistry, etc. yeah, he knows F%*K ALL...!!!
@@phillyphil1513 Musk is a fraud. A genius in Marketing himself as inventor of things that already exist, but worse
You get what you vote for.
Dump Trump 🤓
The Public does not want EVs
Yeah never mind Tesla Sales are up 50% YOY throughout 2018-2023.
The public don’t want mass immigration, but we are having that forced on us too.
Only the brainwashed sheep….👍
@@successtrainingservices9937 there is over 5 million Teslas on the road. Nobody wants them , lol.
Those sells are from dealers registering them and then trying to sell them as used. Also, government agencies are buying them and companies are being forced to buy them. Not an organic number.
EV fiasco reminds me of another government mandate; the CFC light bulb fiasco. The outlawed the incandescent light bulb and required use of the CFC bulb, which was not only extremely expensive, worked poorly, but turned out to be toxic waste once burned out. Luckily, industry came up with the LED light.
I would say incandescent still makes sense in cold climates. The waste heat offsets your heating requirements for the house.
LEDs are VERT bad for the eyes.
Last time I played with a battery operated car, was the Aurora track, I grew up and not planning to play with batteries anytime soon.
Your loss…🤓
Blah blah blah
I have heard numerous times that the estimated distance between charges is far less than they advertise.
I did that mistake once and rented a Tesla at LAX. Driving in LA and even in San Diego was fine but driving to Las Vegas was simply a nightmare. Never again!
Shedding 20,000 EV's is another indicator of how out-of-touch politicians, CEOS are with the average consumer.
Even if there are 3 times the number of the charging stations, it’s not going to work. The power grid won’t be able to handle it.
It's-10 outside right now. I see no eV's on the road! 😅
Tesla`s work in The Artic circle where it gets below -35 and where diesel freezes...
@@kylereese4822 Maybe so in theory. In actuality there are no eV's on the road right now.
I often wonder what will happen to the 'grid' once a majority are E.V plugging in at home in the evening?... 😂
Imagine a family with little kids on a trip to Disneyland trying to charge an EV rental for an hour with toddlers in the car. What a nightmare!
White House spending $600M on new charging stations...
This administration never runs out of ways to launder taxpayers money.
A drop in the bucket, compared to billions spent on oil subsidies.. 🤔
@@cback94 It's better than starving to death. I'll take oil subsidies any day. At least food is getting on the table to the markets and off the farm land thanks to diesel oil and not electric
@@thatwhatisaid So.. if it takes gas and diesel to run a farm 👍 subsidies are more for the general driving public
to help cut oil consumption,
reduce air pollution 🤙
@cback94 one day you'll realize that the global warming alarmist are nothing more than Socialist world order members out to control every aspect of your life..from food to travel to the way you live...it has nothing to do with climate
"The lucid goes 500 miles" I doubt it goes even 300 miles.
Once they get everyone on board with EV's they can move on to the next step of everyone just eating bugs.
They can also ration the electric power....see California for details.
They can go gargle gallons of fermented cricket shit
mmmmn, tasty...
Get back in your pods, don't worry be 😊
Soylent Green may already be part of our current status , , EV's jammed down our throat, along with removing gas appliances.
Rental companies more than likely receive government funding for the purchase of EV's and now will sell them off before they depreciate.
They depreciate like a lead balloon though.
Too late, Tesla already royally screwed them by slashing prices.
like so much Walmart, Hertz is "ROLLING BACK PRICES...!!!"
@@phillyphil1513 Can't disagree, I wonder how it felt to get stabbed in the back by those price cuts after they already spent the money... Nothing like watching your material assets drop in value instantly.
EV's one word, Inconvenient.
One huge hassle
In 1986, I had a black and decker 9v cordless screwdriver. It took all day to charge, ran out of juice fast, and coul barely turn a screw in butter. That's a good analogy for today's EV's. The screw driver didn't cost more than a house and didn't burn the house down either.
I have the same screwdriver & I thought it was broken!
That's the funny part, lithium batteries are actually good for stuff like that and it's no greek tragedy if your screwdriver takes an hour or two to charge. In fact, most of the electric screwdrivers I've used will work perfectly fine as normal screwdrivers if you really need the function. I can't say those same things about cars, lithium batteries are s shit technology for that use.
That was at best NI-CAD technology that was replaced with NI-MH then later Lithium... it`s 2024 not 1986.
@@kylereese4822 Agreed 👍⚡🤪
What a lame comparison.... you must watch fox news....
They are veryDangerous LithiumDeathhTTraps - Buses-Ev's-Trucks-Bikes areBursting intoFlames - why would Anybody Buy or Rent an EV?????????????????????
Did you know??? The cost of insuring a Tesla is $7500 a year. Chances are, if you're in an accident, your car will be totaled. The new Rivian Electric Truck, if you're in a fender bender, your truck is totaled because the body is one piece. Lauren is HOT!
My C8 costs about 2000 a year to insure. That's funny.
Did you have 6 DUIs🤣🤣🤣 do you own one? I've had 2 teslas and you are FLAT OUT LYING!!!!
@@darksideblues135 that dudes lying
Just say no
Why is there vvery little reporting on the costs and environmental impacts involved when recycling the batteries?
Because… there is very little costs & environmental impact…
Do your research.. over 95% of the battery packs are recycled,
Cheaper, better grade quality from recycled batteries,
Means less impact on earth mining raw material 🤔
@@cback94 according to who? brandon?
@@ruleoftwo6174 no... open ur eyes.. don't believe everything you read or tv...
Google battery recycling 🤔
With our tanking economy people are finding it hard to pay the rent and buy food let alone buy an EV that would cost them 3 times the price of a used ICE car with a zero resale value when the battery is no good anymore. EV companies get lots of subsidies we get entitlements, if any.
Tanking economy? Record stock market.... 50 yr low unemployment ..... the economy is actually doing so good that fox news reported on it🤣🤣🤣 stop lying
It’s good to hear our great friends in The USA are leading the way and telling POLITICIANS and vehicle manufacturers where to put their EV’s and green ideas.
Whilst I appreciate the need to save the planet, the cost of doing so will and is leaving the vast majority of decent hardworking people unable to afford (as is being seen with EV’s) the costs involved by having to replace all fossil fuel type heating etc etc.
We in the UK are experiencing similar issues, EV sales have slowed here too.
The race for NET ZERO is being forced upon the people by stupid, gormless and inept Politicians who are excellent at coming up with unsustainable ideas, ie for EV’s they are threatening manufacturers with massive fines unless they produce a certain % of EV vehicles however, the same stupid, gormless and inept Politicians did not give one thought as to the charging structure or the Electricity demands required as currently we have no Country wide charging structure nor the capability to meet electricity demand.
STUPID is what Politicians are first class at achieving, COMMON SENSE is something they never seem to understand.
Thanks for this video, you guys have given me hope and brought a smile back to my face😁😁
Paul🇬🇧
So what can be done in the UK? The problem here in the U.S. started with the war on fossil fuels. One honest election will help solve that problem. We want energy independence. BTW....British cars are the most classy! Love the old MG, Triumph, Austin Healy! Still have my 68 BSA Lightning from high school! A classic!
@@northdakotaham1752
Hi and thanks for your reply🙏
It seems both our Countries are being run by Net Zero fools.
In the UK, Politicians are making more U turns than a toilet bowl over saving the planet,no idea what they are doing, sadly we, the people are suffering as a consequence.
Politicians do not listen to the people and there lies the problem😡
You guys in the States are leading the way by walking away from EV’s for the same reasons we are having.
TOTAL RESPECT ✊
There are signs that we too are kicking back on EV’s, so fingers crossed.🤞
Great to hear you’re a UK classic car /bike nut too 😎😎
We must be related!
I owned an MGB GT, a Triumph Spitfire, a Triumph Vittesse and a Triumph Tiger Cub bike.
All fabulous from an era of fun driving/riding and carefree living!.
My all time dream was to own a Jaguar, the brand that shouted British. Sadly I never got to fulfil that dream (my wife hates them) 🤣🤣
Ps BSA (great bikes) were affectionately known over here as Best Scrap Around)
Only a nickname, lovely machines, keep enjoying yours😎👍
Great to chat Northdacotaham1752.
Paul 🇬🇧
The planet will be just fine, it never needed saving.
@@ironclaw6969 100%👍👍
Well said.🙏
Tell me there wasn’t issues back when,
The “ Horseless Carriage “. was trying to replace the horse and buggy….🤔
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In my opinion, the least polluting car is the one that hasn't been produced yet.
Here in Europe they are stupidly forcing the immediate transition to EV and owning a diesel car is considered almost a crime!
But currently millions of cars work perfectly, they do 900km on a full tank (10 minutes) and I can't spend 70,000 € to buy an EV and only have complications that I don't currently have.
The least polluting car has been made. Its any car before the 70's that's still on the road. In the Summer, my town is a car show, you see cars from the 40's still on the road and they look gorgeous. Parking lots are filled with cars as impromptu car shows spontaneously occur.
Also, co2 is not a pollutant.
@@darksideblues135 I'm perfectly agree with you.
The simplicity and charm of the cars of those years are unattainable in a world where, now, cars are all the same.
If instead of changing cars every 5 years we drove them for 15 years or more, much less pollution would have been produced.
One thing clear… you are not being stupidly forced to transition…
Research why transition is happening… driving diesel.. should & will be banned..
Walking down a city street ( like London) with stop and go traffic.. all the while,
Diesel car, trucks, buses, cabs, spuing out toxic fumes 🤮.. it’s a heath thing..
Google.. pm 2.5. 🤔
THIS IS A MESS... JOE BIDEN HAS MESSED UP REAL BAD!!!!
Tesla Model S prototype revealed in 2007-8 on sale 2012...
Another great video again, Lauren. I'm with you about EV's. I'm not against them, but it I need to rent a car for vacation or a business trip, I do not want to spend that time charging my vehicle. Also, if I do decide to go green, I'll probably look into a hybrid over an EV. To me, especially if you're on vacation, a hybrid is a better compromise over an EV.
I want an EV because there's so much support out there.😜
I work at the Ford truck plant and all along we the hourly workers have voiced our concerns about the EV’s not only are they expensive but they are not practical for the average consumer including us the auto workers.
Ford jumped in with both feet and built a billion dollar plant in Tennessee to produce 60 plus trucks per hour right now in the pilot plant in Michigan we have cut production to 10-15 per hour and cut 2 production shifts because they are not selling, it looks like Ford has been sucked in by the Biden White House and their green energy plan and most likely will have an assembly plant that will be mothballed before it can be opened.
Everything you produce these days is worthless garbage. You should all be embarrassed and ashamed.
So… tell me what’s wrong with this picture…
It’s ok to build and sell expensive, oversized, polluting vehicles..🤔
re: "it looks like Ford has been sucked in by the Biden White House and their green energy plan..." that's actually not the Biden White House's "green energy plan", no, that's ELON MUSK'S GREEN ENERGY PLAN. the legacy OEM's have made it clear from the beginning that they really didn't want to produce EV's, but the REAL pressure has come from DUMB CONSUMERS buying Teslas, and thus they (Ford, GM, Hyundai, the Germans, etc) have been FORCED to respond to the market (which was occurring well before the "Gub'mint" got heavily involved).
The technology is just not here yet these EV’s are more of a novelty right now, the pollution generated to manufacture, the damage done to the environment digging for the rare earth minerals and then having to dispose of the batteries when they expire does not outweigh the benefits to the environment from the EV. Let alone the power grid capacity cannot handle the energy consumption needed.
Resale of EV's is also a major concern, mostly because of the cost of batteries. Now we have rental companies dumping onto the used market. Additionally, people are gradually waking up to the level of hype and BS relating to the true cause of climate change and how tossing money at it isn't going to stop it.
Not only the cost of the battery, but also wondering what the previous owner may have done to it e.g. hit a speed bump with it, charged it on supercharge all the time, etc, etc...
They never had a "luster" in my eyes!
No way in hell would I rely on an EV instead of a gas vehicle!
I see EVs the same way I saw home computers in the 80s and 90s.
NOT ready for public consumption!
As always, thank you for the invaluable information Lauren! The numbers never lie, right?!
EVs were shiny new toys. Americans love shiny new things. Now the shiny is wearing off. It's practicality is poor to say the least. Charging times are long. Maintenance is practically dealer only and very expensive. Often a simple fixes are often made by replacing a large expensive part of the vehicle. If traveling forget it. You can figure on doubling the travel time because of the need to frequently recharge. And it's not Government. It's Democrats and Progressives when they are in charge of policy.
Unrealistic EPA CAFE demands....defund them will help.
EV chargers are not working in Chicago due to the cold.
Who's going to purchase a used EV if you KNOW the battery WILL fail and WILL cost $20,000-$56,000 to replace? This will probably take place before your car loan is even paid-off. Dumps and junkyards will refuse to accept EV's that might look like new yet contain dead, highly toxic batteries with high 'hazardous waste' disposal and handling fees. Goes without mentioning the probability of massive fires.
Whenever the government tells me that gasoline is bad and EVs are the future, I add another turbo to my Mustang. Guess I'll have to buy a Challenger, next. Too bad I can't drive both gas guzzlers at once.
Blah blah blah... you can't afford it anyways
If they can afford s mustang and challenger, why wouldn't they be able to afford an overpriced battery?
EVs are pretty much like cell phones. They go obsolete quickly making them worthless in the resale market.
*Let the people and the market decide, not the frigging govt. This whole EV thing is a scam.*
This expert is excellent.
Remember if you buy an EV, you will be replacing tires twice or more often compared to an ICE vehicle. This is due to the increased weight of the car. 50k miles on our regular car? If you get 20k you’ll be lucky. Glad she brought that up.
Not true..🤭
Battery replacement, chances of fires, cost of EV, electric home upgrade cost, waiting in line to charge, no thanks.😊
EV’s are for the people at South Park.
South Park residents don’t want them. It’s cold, snowy and rural.
The headline, “are evs losing their lustre” Made me kind of chuckle as they’ve never had any “lustre” for me
Loren has it right on point. And when did politicians become salesmen and engineers??? EV's great as second car and commuting less than 100 miles a day - then charge at night. Long trips, cold, bad weather, downed power lines (no electricity for a day or two) will temper your ability to drive anywhere. Forcing the issue helps no one.
The best time to buy an electric car is never.
...like the first ev's...in the early 1900's...not ready...
Most sane individuals want nothing to do with the EVs nightmare.
Hertz only 3 or 4 months ago bought thousands of them, what a reversal. Hertz did not do its homework.
They jumped on this electric bandwagon.
Hertz is a business.. you have costs in a business…
Yes , maintenance costs are higher than they expected,
Because parts network is not as strong..
But, EV’s are more cost effective than a gas vehicle 🚗
-16 degrees in Colofornia, hows your range 😅
Google the Tesla in the artic Circle that still drives in -40 and diesel trains freeze up....
kW/hour costs double what gas costs. Battery replacements are frequent and very expensive. Insurance costs are about to be 5 fold for EVs now that more EVs are catching fire and it takes very specialized equipment to put them out because they burn like blowtorches and dont require oxygen to burn. That means any garage/house/parking garage is more likely to burn down when an EV spontaneous combusts. Insurance companies might not even cover EVs at all, soon.
Whoo…. Don’t know how long you’ve been living under a rock..lol
This is 2024… your comments…🤮 better do some research, fact checking 🤔
Remember to rewind those VHS tapes before returning as well.
"Be Kind - Rewind"
$10,000 to replace an EV battery.
EVs needs perfect climate …too hot it catches fires & when too cold its battery discharges quickly.. chraging stations dies… This is just few major issues of many
Excellent report! Excellent !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really it’s starting to BACKFIRING , it cost 1/3 more , 1/3 less range, 4x to blow up , cost 20-30k to replace battery so USED EV HAS NO VALUE, takes 4x time to refill 10m /40m , tires last 1/3 , Weight 1/3 more so less carrying,
EV's are the biggest SCAM in modern times!
The FACTS:
EV's cost nearly 100% more than an ICEV - Entry-level Tesla Model 3 - $50,000 VS Chevy Malibu - $25,000
Charging an EV to FULL takes ~90 minutes on a special L3 charger, if you can find one VS 5 mins to "recharge/refuel" an ICEV
272 miles of range for a Tesla Model 3 vs 400-500 miles of range on a Chevy Malibu
EV's just aren't able to compete with ICEV's when it comes to ease of use, reliability and convenience. It will be a LONGGG TIMEEE before electric cars garner even a 25% market share in the automotive world.
Base model 3 is now $40000
@@diani748 And I can tell you haven't bought a Tesla lately, like my neighbor has. $40k, but like a typical EV fanboy, you forgot all the incidentals...you didn't add the taxes, fees, surcharges, paperwork transfer fees, registration and tag transfer fees and the Tesla delivery fee, which is $1500 alone. All in all, over $45,000 for a car that you have to mold your life around, as my neighbor is now learning the hard way.
@@jaroessa294
The FACTS:
The Tesla model 3 lists for $40,630 including destination fee.
The Chevrolet Malibu lists for $26,195 including destination fee.
Taxes and dealer fees apply to both cars.
The Tesla costs 55% more.
I’m not a fanboy, I’d rather buy the Chevy.
Your not a mathematician.
20-80% 15 minuets...
The Model 3 does have a 272 mile epa range.
The Malibu has a 474 mile epa range.
Imagine being late to catch a flight than realising your range plummeted because it's cold 🥶❄️
In a Ice you stop for 4 minutes and put Fuel, on a EV you lost the flight 😢
GM just stopped producing EVs, other companies scaling way back.
Because they don’t understand electric vehicles 🤓
Tesla is not scaling back..🤔
I don’t forget about all their lawsuits for their shady practices filing false police reports for stolen vehicles on their customers.