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its good to see failures too and ngl, knowing what the "story" of the diorama was, its like the ratling tripped a security system that distorted reality in that room so in that sense it looks dope af.
I actually LOVE how it turned out - it looks a lot more complex and intricate, and I could stare at it for hours, imagining that the bubbles and cracks are like caves (or clouds) and there is a story going on inside, compared to other diaramas that are pretty but tell the entire story at a glance. I'd sure happily keep this "failure" for inspiration! :D
You guys did good, that just means that our mistakes lead to greater opportunities with resin
Tzeentch :" I love it when a plan comes together!"
Commander Farsight demon warlord of korn conversion?????!!!!!!
It was so much fun to meet and we're so gutted for you! You put in so much hard work and the idea was so cool! Thanks again for finishing off our diorama and fixing it's so beautifully! ❤🎉
I'd love to see this redone if possible, the idea and the aesthetics are awesome.
Yeah same, I'd love them to learn how to use resin properly and give this another crack.
I agree
+1
I think with the toy testing Jazza did in his recent video, the TTT team might be able to use that process to make more heat resistant diorama minis. And use a hefty mini fridge
Yes please!!
When I saw what happened I thought WOW, such a great accident, you can't even do that effect if you want to! That's legit the best frozen scenery I've ever seen! Feels like a mage went out of control and perma-froze the cave! I know it's a different story, but the mage wanted something else too :D
Yes, that what I think too it's a great frozen lump that happened suddenly and the figures on top are trying to work out what happened there and if they could still get to the treasure.
Same!! I thought it could be a frozen cave or even a crystal cave! It didn't turn out like they wanted but the end result was still very cool! As Bob Ross would say, happy little accidents 🤣
I had the exact same thought, it still looked really cool in the end, with the miniatures all set up on the top. Just not the cool they were going for, but still
I thought so too
exactly what i though
Never throw it away, keep it on a shelf to remind you that when things go wrong it can always be worse.
You can just imagine that the "failure" is just what opening Pandora's Box looks like. The artifact treasures inside the box had within it demonic warp tented objects and opening the treasure chest imploded. The implosion caused the Black Stone Fortress area to either transport to the warp or create a 4th like dimension. I think you could make up some interesting head cannon thoughts around this "mistake." All I would do is clean up the sides paint it black and label it 'Pandora's Box Unleashed"
Absolutely. I followed the video thinking about another "looky pretty nice, maybe some time i may come close to that"-result. But frankly, that unpredicted "desaster" looks so much more interesting and sparks so much more curiosity - and my first thought was also: opened the chest and now the warp takes hold at this deck. Just cool! Just finish it properly and mark it as a project that had its own ideas over yours :)
Honestly one of my favourite videos of yours ever. Would love to see it retried but seeing how resin looks when it goes 'wrong' was eerie and awesome.
Chin up guys!
This isn't a fail.
It's a success in learning how not to make a deep resin pour diorama.
🎼🎶"For up from the ashes, up from the ashes, grow the roses of success!"
You F@cked up, so we don't have to.
If you’ve never failed, you’ve never tried hard enough.
The end effect is so unique and interesting. It's not a disaster, it may not be what you wanted or spent all that time on, but you created something very compelling from all angles.
It is, for sure, a cautionary tale on resin for the future.
While it is a "disaster", it is a very cool looking "disaster"!
Side note: With any 2 part epoxy/resin pours, the larger the pour the greater the thermal output of the chemical reaction will be. This is one of the main reasons why deep pour dioramas with plastics are very rarely done until all of the plastics have been fully encased in that resin with smaller pours to protect them from melting.
Resin is a very fickle mistress!
now it just looks like a treasure room that had a trap go off in which actually makes it look cool!
Thanks so much for sharing your failures. It's so important for all of us on our learning journeys to see that mistakes are not just normal but an integral part of the process. Lots of love and respect.
I actually love how that looks because it looks like an hidden underground town covered in ice
Hey guys it's a pitty that it didn't turn out the way you guys wanted and cracked. But like you guys said it was your first time so no one would have guessed that!
Also I feel like it's a good thing you guys still uploaded it, because it shows amateurs like me in this topic that it can happen to anyone.
So cheer up from the experience and the amazing collab time with the two other amazing CZcamsrs!
They are amateurs just like you too. They've never done it before, so makes them just as much of an amateur as you are.
Watching this halfway through and everything looks like it's going well, combined with the title, makes this feel like watching a horror movie that hasn't gotten scary yet.
The video is NOT a disaster. It is a great look into what happens in real life. Not everything is sunshine and daisies. sometime shit happens and the best we can do is learn from it and move on. You guys have SO much talent and creativity, i know that with a little more research and study of this process, you'll make a HELL of a diorama. Keep your chins up and keep up the good work.
Ah that is gut wrenching! It’s a cool effect, but it would’ve been so cool to see what it could have been at its full potential
When dealing with epoxy resins, thicker castings are more prone to what is known as "thermal runaway" where the chemical reaction causes a feedback loop and generates more and more heat with the neighboring volume of resin. This sort of thing can also happen if you over-catalyze the resin (adding too much catalyst/hardener) which in some cases can even start small fires.
Okay but the fact that you still glued the figures on top shows an impressive level of commitment 😂
Always heartbreaking when a resin pour goes belly up like that. Even if the final product didn't turn out, it was an awesome idea and I can say we all still love everything you guys do. And As Dave said. It's the journey that's important and we all love being able to join you on this journey. Love all your videos!
Despite being labeled a Fail, it really isn't. The end effect was super eerie and interesting to see, despite not being your original vision. Thank you for sharing and being honest and raw with the story. ❤
Sorry for your loss; however, love the giant gelatinous cube you built. Keep the awesome content coming, love your work!
Le gasp! A Gelatinous cube with a Mimic hidden inside. Dastardly DMs
We dont have separate words for squids and octopus here on Sweden. Both are 'bläckfisk', "inkfish"
Squids can be called Kalmarer if you want to seperate the two
are you kidding me - this is amazing - the best gelatinous cube diorama ever. I think it totally works as a crazy deathstone fortress trap room...
The bubbling inside looks so amazing! It's not wrong, it's perfect guide for someone who would like to that effect (or hurt himself with fumes :D )
I think it still came out beautifully. It's not what you wanted, but look at the way it still captures the light from every angle. So pretty!
Maybe for the next resin pour you could collaborate with another Aussie content creator who does a lot of deep resin stuff himself - Ben's Worx!
This is a masterpiece of art.
It shows all the hopes and wishes of a great team combined with the collapsing dreams burning in the bubbles of hell ...
23:43 Fact that he still put the smoke machine on for the reveal was funny tbh
I think the end product would have been very cool if it was clear, but it almost has a simple beauty to it with the shattered look. Almost something like a shattered multi verse type diorama with the characters on top trying to save the shatered/frozen world inside. Lesson learned, I guess, and now for the next thing. Keep up the learning and great videos!
I really appreciate that you put this video out there, and that you put in the extra effort to make it a video at all! In this community, we see hundreds of amazing projects and it's great to see the process that everyone goes through to gain the skills.
Honestly, even though it didn't go according to plan and how you wanted. The explosion with resin in my opinion actually makes it look pretty cool.
Hugely informative, thank you for still putting this video up, I’ve got resin projects coming up in my future and these kinds of lessons are insanely helpful. Thank you for sharing all your hard work 🫡
you know what, I'm glad you put this video up, it just shows that even people who do modelling/diorama building for a living can even make a mistake that seems like a simple fix in hindsight. it gives me hope that if I try this, it wont be the end of the world for it to screw up for me. Thank you for not sugar coating the mistake guys, it makes a beginner like me feel better about my mistakes
I loved watching the process. The fun of resin is learning and improving! I hope you all had fun on this project.
Resin is always tricky, it can go great a dozen times and then massive failure or have so many bad batches you do one last pour to use up the remaining resins before they expire and it turns out fantastic.
I'm glad u guys still posted the video cuz I feel like this is a good lesson about learning and safety when it comes to resin. Hope this doesn't deter u guys from trying something this big again
Good on you for posting this ❤ this is exactly why I love you guys xo showing reality and not just showing everything perfect!
Unironically it looks absolutely fucking amazing, as if those Drone-thingies activated some sort of Defense Mechanism to try and kill the Explorers....
Thank you for being willing to show that even experienced artists struggle sometimes. Y'all do good work! Keep it up😉
*TO AVOID BUBBLES AND CRACKS ON DEEP RESIN POURS* For this technique you'll need one of those horizontal garage freezers. First, seal completely your object all around with a layer of resin to make sure there are no voids, trapped air will off-gas and bubble out as the pressure and heat of the curing process will push it out, let it fully cure before moving on. Then you'll need to keep your resin in the refrigerator for 48h before pouring, let it get to 60F / 15C or so. Place your object and the mould inside the freezer before pouring. Mix the resin and degas it as normal then pour the resin and keep your freezer as cold as possible. It will probably still take a few days to cure but you can perform a single pour (no layers!) of a block about 60 x 40 x 30 cm, possibly larger. It depends on the brand of the resin of course, but I believe MAS Deep Pour was the one used.
*CREDIT TO: BM Sculptures* , you can see his technique in this video: Carving a (turtle) out of Epoxy & Wood
As someone who is learning this hobby I thank you for sharing this video. The idea and the painting were so well done it's heart-breaking to see what the resin did.
I love that the title is dramatic and implies everything goes wrong, and then it does. So refreshing.
I know you cant see the items you guys worked so hard on but the layered structure of the bubbles and stuff is actually really cool looking.
I love watching your videos. I've seen many youtubers try to finish resin pours quickly to make a deadline. I don't remember seeing a video where a fast pour turned out well but hopefully this is a good lesson for next time.
Oh my gosh Murray’s votann looks exactly like my custom votann league colors (i use bronze, copper, and blue)! It’s so cool that I wasn’t the only one with that color scheme idea for them!
I am sorry that this one project failed but I am so glad you guys posted the video! It is often difficult seeing YT’bers pump out amazing works of 40K art, never seeing the “learning experiences” and “fails”along the way. Gives all us ‘average joe’ hobby warriors a reminder that even the greats sometimes stumble. Table Top Time is a one of the greats channel for its incredible work. I would say this video shows more of your passion, humility and character. Can’t wait for the next video and attempt at Blackstone Fortress.
Thank you for sharing your inspired ideas, enthusiastic execution, and most importantly, the frustrating finish. This is still a beautiful part of the process.
We all live and learn. It was really a great concept for a diorama. Keep up the good work! 🤗
I feel like this could be AWESOME as a prop for a game- maybe as a relic the group has to get, or to show the group the ruins they're exploring, something like that.
Im really hoping you guys are going to try it again because idea for this diorama was really cool!
Oh my goodness, that melting broke my heart! But everything was looking sooooo beautiful, that even with all the bubbles it still looks cool (not what you were aiming for, but one can still see how cool each element looked
Oh this was very sad to see after so much work but to see you stay positive in the end and take it in stride was very nice to see. It shows that not everything you make turns out ok and thats just the reality of being creative and trying new things. The models looked beautiful and atleast you have this video to see them again outside their resin grave.
In Squidmars language Squid and Octopus is the same word possibly denoting the number of arms 8 or 10. 8 armed or 10 armed inkfish directly translated
Would love to see this redone! Such a great diorama and ideas.
squidmar brought me here and how you saved them was amazing. Thank you for showing that it doesn't always work the way you thought it would. I'll sub to that! You guys should remake what it was. Never let the creativity die. not that ever would.
This video has been out for three days now. Over 90.000 people have seen it.
Seen the creativity, the process, the techniques, the fun and the failures.
90k people now know not to trust sparkly stuff in resin pours and to baby their pours the first few hours.
Tabletop Time is about creativity, fun and learning.
This video checks all three of those boxes. So thanks Dave, Murray and Jen.
I love seeing all your attention to detail and also showing the rest of us how things can go horribly wrong. While I agree your original plan would've looked absolutely incredible, I think what you ended up with also looks pretty cool! Especially when you added the figures at the top and did some lighting effects. I feel like there's a story here about a treasure hunt gone wrong -- maybe unleashing some horrible melting/freezing spell when opening the chest...
Lmao, this is unironically awesome! The result is garishly cool, and I love that you show things going wrong!
Whoever picked the music at the end deserves some major props!!!! :D
I'm so sorry this happened. I really liked your ideas. Thank you for sharing this with us even though the project didn't turn out the way you wanted. I do think there is something compelling about the chaos captured inside.
I echo others in the comments and say that I would also like to see this project tackled again using what you have learned. I definitely understand if it's a long while before you all want to tackle something like this again.
Again, thank you for sharing this so that we can all learn together.
Don't think you guys are idiots at all, I'm just appreciative that you share the successes along with the failures and how to learn from them. Lord knows I fail all the time, so it's refreshing to see others experiencing the same challenges! Keep up the great content, we appreciate all you do!
What you did is still light years ahead of what I or your average hobbyist could do. I'm so sorry it didn't work out, but next time it will! This collaboration is amazing and I love it!
OOHHH i'm so glad you all met !!! And too bad the project didn't go as expected, still looked really cool before the resine pour!
Thank you for airing this video. Its nice to see the people we look up to fail sometimes too❤
Hell at least you tried. Would love to see you redo it and take your time the whole concept and everything you put into it was amazing
You failed while striving for an incredible goal; there's nothing wrong with that and it seems like more than a few lessons were learned in the process. I'd call that a win overall. I also love that this channel posts the whole process of the projects you undertake, for better or for worse, and that helps the rest of us pick up tips and tricks of our own. Great job as always guys, even if the final results weren't what you were hoping for!
I appreciate seeing the things that didn’t go well. It helps us know things don’t always go well and that’s okay.
All in all, the figurines came out glorious. First step into deep resin pours was painful, but it only means the next one will be GLORIOUS. Best of luck on your next resin project
Honestly I felt so bad but couldn't help but laugh because I have seen myself at points like this so many times. But I certainly felt the finish it anyway with still adding the guys on the top😂. Keep up the good work you guys are all huge inspirations of mine, thank you for all the work you do!
Thank you for sharing this. My heart breaks for you guys seeing how this went so pear shaped at the end. From a viewer perspective, however, it is nice to see that those of you that do the hobby things living come up short and things go pear shaped for you from time to time also. It helps us, the weekend hobbyists, to realize that these things do happen and to not be quite so discouraged when they happen to us. I would love to see this one redone, in a kind of "well, that went horribly, but lets see if we can try again and get something close to the vision we were shooting for" way. Keep your collective chins up mates. Love your work.
I'd just say that instead of delving into the depth of the Blackstone fortress, they inadvertently stepped into the warp. And well, that is a pretty bang on depiction of what it could look like if you went into the warp unshielded.
Loved the video!
There is resin that is for deep pours like this. It takes longer to cure but it is safer.
I love how you put the little figured on top. It’s kind of beautiful.
The idea and everything up until the resin was poured was great, and I really like what you did for Squigmar after they had to catch their plane back home. Hope you try more deep pours later on.
Absolutely love the collab! Bummed the resin didn't work out, but trying again when things don't go your way is part of the hobby!
Still loved watching the video! It's amazing to see your fun friendship and working creativeness!
it kinda looks trippy and cool. The paint job of the minis on top are great.
There’s always some kind of curse when you’re treasure hunting. This seems so fitting, but what a bummer.
Chin up! It's a learning process, and sometimes things happen. At least now you know. Would like to see you try this again. I would say, not only do you want to do it in layers, but you might want to make it small enough to fit in a vacuum chamber. It would sufficiently syphon off the heat and any potential hazardous gas.
This is great! I immediately had a storyline in my head about how two parties fighting over the treasure made them trigger a trap, causing the treasure chamber to be flooded by this hot toxic liquid, killing everyone inside, making the treasure disappear forever 🥰🥰🥰
I hope you’re trying a project like that again!
It's like the plunderers triggered some defence system that annihilated them, pretty cool moment frozen in time. But a real bummer it didn't turn out the way you wanted, was looking forward to this one the most!
Still, nice video. The process was a great watch and you included a resin PSA as an added bonus.
If you do this again, it will be so so great! Your Idea was so awesome! Lots of love from Czechia!
I've been doing resin for probably at least 5 years now and still have times like this. One of my more recent projects flash cured while pouring into essentially a frozen waterfall.
Heartbreaking for you fine folks! That thermic reaction with resin is no joke for sure! Pouring anything over 2 inches at a time is rough even with perfect environmental conditions. I have spent no small amount of time over the years doing epoxy pours ( floor coatings and back fill pours) and even at relatively shallow 1/8" pours, I have still ran into bubbling, humidity level caused cracking and leveling issues. Even Jazza, pouring at a roughly 2" depth pours, still had an issue with those pesky layer lines between pours. Getting rid of those requires precise scientific measurements of tint to as well as sanding between layers from low to very high grit to manage. The painting work you all put in was very nice! Once again, my condolences to the Tabletop Time Crew!
I actually love this video. It just really shows the perspective of an artist. Sometimes u succeed and don't know why and sometimes you fail hard and learn a lot. Please keep on trying. I smell a redemption arc coming in ❤
Was not expecting Emil and Lucas! Two of my favorite channels smashed together. Ultimate win!
Had this happen to me two times, the speed, heat and smell of the reaction is insane.
Every step of the ways was amazing and it all looked beautiful.
I knew it didn't go right from seeing the other videos, but I didn't imagine how much.
Whatever the result, you can be really proud of yourself for doing such an amazing work.
(And to be honest, I think the end result can still tell a story. There were traps the adventurers didn't notice and opening the chest blew up the whole room. A TPK is never something we wish to have, but hey. It's Tabletop. It happens.)
Gutted for you, it was all looking so amazing! But you learned a good lesson and the madness still looks kinda dope 😉
The work you did before the pour was amazing. I wonder what epic story could be told using the scene you created. Something horrifying happened. I bet you guys could create an amazing story based on the scene.
I watch a lot of woodturning videos where they mix resin casting with wood. They use a special deep pour resin for anything deeper than 4 inches. The more resin you use, the hotter it gets as it cures. That heat can melt molds, or cause thermal cracking. To avoid this, you can either do thinner layers, or use the special deep cast resin, and keep it cool as it cures(like putting ice packs around the project while inside the pressure pot, or store in unheated area of workshop). That deepcast resin takes 2-3 days to cure however.
It is sad that it did not turn out like you wanted it, but I absolutely enjoyed the video and the colaboration with the other two channels. It still has an unique effect in the glamour shots. And it tells "normal people" that resin pouring IS hard. Only success would make this pretty challenging medium look easy. I would love to see this retried.
At the end, the way you guys presented what you called a disaster, actually now gives off the vibes of a post apocalyptic horror scavenging deal.
Guys put some rex lighting underneath the box and it might look like the depths of hell bubbling from below up to the surface
That's so unfortunate that this happened, but it can definitely be considered a learning experience. Not only did y'all learn something, but us Tabletop Time fans were able to learn something new about resin pouring too! I hope you give this diorama another go if y'all get your hands on another Blackstone Fortress set. I loved where this whole diorama was going and it'd be great to see it redone :) thanks for all the great content!!
Watching this... your idea is freaking awesome, take these learning's and do something similar!
It actually looks amazing like that honestly, really unique
I actually still love it. Give it another shot please! I believe in you!
I started watching all these dudes separately as like a cool down before bed thing. Nuts to see everyone together lol. Props
I love it like this!!! it looks like there was a big disaster I the past, where a substance froze everything in time