BYD ATTO 3 CHARGING AT TESLA SUPERCHARGER IN AUSTRALIA | February 2023
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- Tesla has opened select Superchargers in Australia to all other non-Tesla electric vehicle so we tested the BYD Atto 3 EV DC Supercharging at the Tesla Supercharger in Bathurst NSW | Tesla Tom of Ludicrous Feed
BYD ATTO 3 CHARGING AT TESLA SUPERCHARGER IN AUSTRALIA | February 2023
NB: At the 11 minute mark, I've since been informed you can lock the charger under the car's 'New Energy' Settings
$A Tesla Supercharging Rates (at time of post | Feb 2023)
66c/kWh for Teslas
66c/kWh for non-Teslas who pay $9.99/month membership
79c/kWh for non-member non-Teslas
* Teslas get the discounted rate without the need to subscribe to the membership
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00:00 Introduction
01:00 Plugging in Take 1
02:00 Tesla App Explained
03:30 Starting to Charge
05:05 Charge Port locations
05:40 Around the Charger
06:30 Plugging in Take 2
11:00 Unplugging when car is locked
12:02 Charging Rate update
13:45 Amenities
14:04 Supercharger Walkaround
15:29 100% Completed
16:29 Unplugging
17:48 Summary
18:59 Charging Stats
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NB: At 11:00 I've since been informed you can lock the charger under the car's 'New Energy' Settings
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$A Tesla Supercharging Rates (at time of post | Feb 2023)
66c/kWh for Teslas
66c/kWh for non-Teslas who pay $9.99/month membership
79c/kWh for non-member non-Teslas
- Teslas get the discounted rate without the need to subscribe to the membership
Why would that not be the default setting. Odd.
Thanks heaps Tom for testing the BYD and yup you need set up plug lock function in vehicle settings 🙂👍
@@emmett3067 Most people still home charge in a garage. So unplugging to walk around the car in a small garage rather than tripping over a cable actually makes sense.
There are 3 lock modes:
Off: no lock at all
On: same as the door lock
Smart: Off (if the battery is full) / On (otherwise)
Happy with the price for the ability to charge the MG ZS EV on a reliable and widespread network (although not all opened yet). Also the idle fees are a great idea to ensure fast turnover if cars.
All DC rapid networks should have this.
Great work Tom, this video will be greatly appreciated by many non-Tesla owners on our journey to the future
Is this V 3 supercharger or V 2
I love the idle fees. I wish all charging networks did the same.
Agreed
It should only apply if additional changing stations are not available.
@@SpaceBound-1No, move your car. It's a charging station, NOT a carpark.
Thanks for testing and sharing this video with us, Tom! Good stuff.
Thanks Tom, I know you tested the range yourself however My Atto 3's getting slightly more than 400km during mixed Highway/Urban Driving. You keep mentioning 300Km which is such a huge difference when using averages. My trips were to the Southwest of Western Australia from Perth, twice. Long Highway drives of 300km with only short sections at a couple of stops to refresh. Then 2 days of urban-ish driving in smaller townships, then back to Perth. I've done 6000km overall so the car and tyres are pretty new although I had packed a few things for the trip so add about 100kg plus two adults. Anyone else getting these numbers?
Not me 300 KM for 60 KW battery pack
Appreciate the test Tom.
Saw your post on linked in! oh wow this is cool!!
No mucking round with you Straight into new things Thanks for all you show us
No time like the present!
Sorry one more question; I LOVE MY BTD ATTO 3, yes it sounds like Tesla’s safety technology seems more ‘refined’ and works better. However, for me, driving, on
country and hwy WITH CLEARLY marked lines it works well, I’m old & still like the idea of ‘driving the car and not relying on the car’s safety ‘intelligence’ , even though it’s fantastic it’s all working in the background !! I guess it’s fantastic that’s it’s all there, it comforting to know !!! Really, again for me, if on a long trip on the hwy at 110km if I started to fall asleep 💤 or start to nod off
off or even worse, the car will keep me on the rd, vibrate and scream at me to keep safe!! (Now my phone, daughter, boss etc tells me what to do!!! Lol, ) so the question is; is it worth spending the extra $20k ????
I started to look at a Polestars 2, a really nice drive, the repayments were $40 more than the BYD Atto3 .
However, when you start matching apples with apples, same features, same safety technology, same real life battery capacity, it became $280 a week more than the Atto!!!!
Buyers beware!!! it all sounds good, but you must read the “fine print”!!!!
What is fantastic are the features & safety technology are standard in any BYD.Atto3 SO YOU DONT NEED TO SPEND THAT extra $1000 plus for every upgrade, per item, that you need to do with other models.. the only thing you get to select is a standard or extended range battery apart from that every ad Atto3 has it all at no extra cost STANDARD!!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thanks again for your time🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
😂 It just seems like you need to silence the notifications on your phone etc, and politely tell your back seat drivers to be quiet.. 😊
I agree seems ridiculous that brands like Polestar make you pay around $6k just to get safety features that are included on other models.
I agree with your sentiment that people should research their cars but at the end of the day they will choose the car they want based on their own criteria.
Important to note however that that the quality of safety features and how they operate between brands varies so it’s two different points really (1.having it, 2. how good it operates) and in some instances the higher price could be justified.
100% agree!! But $20-30k extra?? I’ll just drive it as a normal car lol!! Have a terrific weekend and enjoy the car👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@graememills7778 can I turn of my daughter and boss!! Thanks for advise!! Funny !!!!
Great video Tom. Thankyou Tesla for opening up the network to non Teslas.
Top video, thanks very much.
Cheers 🥂
Yet another “Great work mate!” comment. 😊 Seriously Tom, you’re doing a great job! I as a Tesla owner am all for opening up Superchargers to non-Teslas. NOT high-use ones, of course, but it’s going to be fabulous marketing for Tesla.
Thanks Neil!
Even high use ones - the extra cost is a disincentive to non-Tesla users unless they really need to use that charger, and if they do, fine. And if this model works for Tesla, non-Tesla money spent at their Superchargers will drive them adding both new booths and new locations. It's a win-win to (gradually) open their network up to all users, at a fee.
$.79c per kw/hr….YIKES!!! Glad I own a TESLA! Ya think money is being MADE?!
Thanks for this report Tom. Very enlightening.
👍😃
Very good 👍
Well done Tom, as both a Tesla and previous MG EV owner, this is a good move by Tesla to help out others on the road. Not sure about the charge rates as they are very high, especially with a cheaper charger/option next to them
Agree the rates are higher than other third party chargers for now ... so the SCs will serve as a good fallback option should the other fault
Tesla doesn't have to open its chargers to other EVS. Count it a privelege when and where they do and even if they charged 80c/kWh it might still be cheaper than ICE fuel. We buy EVS for the environment and most people can source most of their electricity at more like half that.
Tesla did the responsible thing by not just dumping EVS in Australia without investing their own money on infrastructure. Haven't seen others doing their bit!
Tesla owners pay a premium for their cars and if the brand wants to sell electricity to others they have every right to charge above the going rate IMO.
@@waynehobbs5175 Chargefox is 30 cents, and they don't profit on car sales as well. Yes, Tesla has a right to charge almost 80 cents, and we have a right to avoid their chargers. First I have heard of ripping-off responsibly, though.
Oh this looks interesting!!!
Great video
I use this site often on the way outwest have to be careful reversing now that wheel stoppers have been removed as the pole is directly behind!
On a slightly different topic- any word on model y long range arriving in Aus
Bathurst is an important destination as you’ve mentioned so it will be interesting to see how well utilised it is by non-Teslas on PlugShare
I haven’t heard much on MYLR as yet
You're at my Home town. Charged there this morning while taking the doggo for a walk
Congrats
As usual…. Brilliant
🙏
If it's like my Kona there is a courtesy button you can press to give permission to remove cable while the car is locked
“….Tesla, if you are watching!” That was gold Tom. Broken chargers are a real drag I do concur.
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BYD's menu lets you lock the the charger to the car's input socket so that it cannot be removed, so please adjust it for next time you charge.
Thank you, I will add a note to the pinned comment and vid description
On our road trip a couple of months ago the NRMA charger was not operational. Tesla chargers were fine.
Tesla SC = super reliable
Great work Tom . One thing to consider is the cost . My V8 commodore on highway does about 350-400 kms per 50 litres of LPG which is about 90cent per litre so its about $25 for the 205 rang that cost $32 . So a real disadvantage for country travelling . When you are charging at home its so much cheaper and urban range is so much more the advantage is EV .. One thing the CO2 emission from an LPG car is about 30% less than petrol . Also a lot of the harmful other emissions from Petrol or Diesel are far less to non existent .
Thanks Graham
I feel that over time, the difference in cost between EV charging and fossil fuel will probably become negligible as the transition completes due to various reasons. I’d say that many people choose electric for other reasons eg comfort, tech, convenience in the cities etx
Hi
Just watched your video as we are about to head to bathurst so it was very handy! Couple of questions:
1. How much was the Nrma charger and how does the charging speed compare to the Tesla?
2. How does one get an invoice after charging as our car is on novated lease so need reciepts to claim.
Thanks
Kim
NRMA charger is currently free - it is 50kW. The invoice (and historical invoices) can be downloaded from the Tesla app after the charging session
Be sure to watch my charging guide video: Tesla and Electric Vehicle Charging Guide Australia 2023 April Update
czcams.com/video/Z4fLrIIQm5U/video.html
Thank you Tom for the hard work and well done! I appreciate your advice on Tesla Gen 3. I have my BYD delivered few days ago and now consider installing a Tesla Gen 3 as the BYD portable charger is only 8amps way too slow at 1.3KW per hour. I have the single phase meter at home. You are only one of few on CZcams who has shared with us that Gen 3 will work with BYD. I’m wondering if the Wi-Fi feature will work on BYD as well? What’s the charging speed? And can I acutely adjust the charging speed, eg from 7kw down to 2Kw because I want to charge the battery using solar production much possible so I doesn’t want it too fast, of course 1.3kw is just too slow. Gen 3 is $550 only on Tesla website.
The BYD Atto 3 will charge at 6kW max with the Tesla Gen 3 Wall Connector. You can manually change the amperage via Wifi backend settings.
@@LudicrousFeed Thank u for the info Tom!
Great Vid again Tom. Good to have real life figures. Two things of interest I noted ... 1. The price is quite high ( roughly equiv to a petrol car for the ATTO 3 ). Is that a higher price than for non-Tesla cars? 2. Seems the ATTO 3 is not that efficient ( 170-200W/km ) I get 132-145W/km in my Tesla 3 LR. So the ATTO is using approx 30% more power! I expected it would use more than the Model 3 but not by that degree.
1. See video description and pinned comment for Tesla Supercharger price at the time of video post
2. EV Efficiency and range is a funny thing. It depends a lot on driver (speed) and environmental factors eg. weather (wind, temp). Highway range tends to drop for most EVs compared to mixed urban usage
I drive an Atto 3 here in China. Can anyone
confirm that when the car is plugged and
charging at a fast charger and you are inside the car with the engine on and the AC on there is a loud running noise comming from the front hood like an engine or something. I got the same noise when I start the AC remotely from the BYD app to cool down the car before I reach to it in the parking lot during hot days. When I drive the car normally I don't hear that sound. Also I noticed that when I increase the AC fan speed the noise is louder. Is it the heat pump? Why I don’t hear this noise when I drive the car normally with the AC on? Is this normal?
Thanks!
The Atto 3 has an option in one of the menus so that you cannot unplug the car even if it's not charging. The plug can only be removed by double pressing the unlock button on the BYD remote.
Good to know. I've added a note to the pinned comment and vid description as per previous comments, thanks!
YW, also what are your impressions of the Atto 3?
@@hartoz Be sure to check out my other vids where I discuss it in more detail but overall it represents very good value and makes for a comfortable midsized SUV for both urban and highway conditions
Great video thank you. I have read that on CCS (fast charging) you should not exceed 80% in the BYD. on AC charging (slow charging) you can go to 100%. Does anyone know if this is correct?
It’s got a BYD Blade LFP battery so my understanding is that it’s safe to go to 100% on a regular basis regardless of AC or DC. However convention is that for longevity it’s better to AC charge rather than DC charge for regular daily usage if possible
Thank you very much for Video, it is good to know there are more charging options for Non-Tesla EV. It will helped me persuade my wife to trade-in our Honda City for BYD ATTO 3. With the Tesla membership, can you stop it anytime? I think it is only useful when we are on road trip!!!! Thanks again for a very informative and prompt video.
By the way, do you the current wait time for BYD ATTO 3?
I think you can probably sub on/off as needed but I will confirm once I get more info
Check the BYD website in your local area for expected delivery times
Thanks for your useful information Tom. I’m planning a trip from Melbourne to Perth in a few weeks in a standard Model 3. Do you have any advice on where there are no Tesla chargers along the WA route?
I’d suggest touching base with guys from Tesla Owners Club of Western Australia when crossing the Nullarbor. They’ve provided very useful advice to others who have done the journey before
DRIVING A TESLA MODEL Y AROUND AUSTRALIA IN 17 DAYS! 2022 EV Road Trip
czcams.com/users/liveG-4IwbCH6qI?feature=share
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom. Will do.
Under New Energy Settings, there is a lock option. I presume that was not set to ON explaining the ability to unplug.
Thank you, I will add a note to the pinned comment and vid description
Can you change current rate pulled when charging, like you can in Tesla? From 36A to lower 26A so you dont stress the battery too much, ofc it would mean slower charging, but the option is top.
Good question. You generally cannot change the amperage for DC chargers (including Tesla superchargers). You can change amperage for AC charging
This is exciting news for ev owners in Oz
The Supercharger thing is good to know when I hire an Atto 3 later in the year cos SIXT just announced a couple days ago they’re gonna add 500 to there fleet this year along with replacing more than half of the 16000 strong fleet over the next several years to EV
Yup, great work BYD automotive and SIXT Australia
there is a setting in the car settings under charging, where you can engage the locking of the charge port when the vehicle is charging and the car is locked, to prevent it from being it taken out
Thanks for the tip! 💡
@@LudicrousFeed you're welcome
Good video. Do you think changing pricing will go up when more people get electric cars. Should there be a built in payment into chargers so you don't have to download all the different apps and have an account for each?
The inside word is that the fees charged by providers do not adequately cover the investment and maintenance needed to install charging sites ie. they would run at a loss without either gov support or a price premium on vehicles in Tesla's case to cover the cost needed. We are told that electricity produced by renewable sources is cheaper than fossil fuel ones so in a perfect world, the price of electricity should either keep pace with inflation or possibly even decrease in price.
In an ideal world it would be a tap and go credit card reader system or just plug and play like the way Tesla owners enjoy
It will, supply and demand
They ain’t messing with those yellow bollards. Those BMW iX drivers are a menace lol
My eBike takes 6 hours to charge 10Ah and gets 70KM range. Battery should last 5 years. Battery life and practical use matters.
Love how people like to watch what they already know
Familiarity is comforting
Did you happen to test the cable reaching if the Atto pulled into one of the rear chargers? Not all SC locations for when they open more up, have side on chargers.
I'lll have to find one that has a rear facing stall
Cheers. I guess just try ducking into any SC site thats not busy that has the rear stalls and see if it reaches? Doesn’t matter that isn’t online yet as can just test the reach.
It’ll have to be one without a wheel stop, not to mention risking dirty looks from other Tesla owners 🫣
@@LudicrousFeed haha good points
Hey mate. Have you figure out how to turn off drl so we can watch a drive-in movie
Perhaps one of our Atto 3 owners can help with this question
That's more expensive than I paid for my Mazda3 same range
Depends on petrol prices … currently I’m seeing $2.30/L around town (April 2024)
You must set the lock setting to prevent unplugging when car is locked.
Thank you
Well all those app issues shows why this is a pilot so far. Get those bugs ironed out. Only in NSW as have to due to government funding guys.
im looking forward to getting an EV to replace my little around town commuter and charge at home, but it still looks like going on long trips would suck in an EV. I'd probably put on weight from eating at the cafes while waiting for the charging to complete.
I was also surprised at the price.
It's a good thing that Tesla is starting to open up their chargers to all.
The ability to charge at any brand of charger would be great and should be mandated by the government.
Owning an EV is second to none in an urban setting but expectations need to be managed for long distance driving for sure particularly when it comes to the cost of DC charging: potential owners need to be aware that it is not as cheap as people may think and certainly not free
Hi Tom,
I’ve just got my BYD Seal and just wanted to know what Tesla app you use to charge the car with at the supercharger, please
Regards
Anthony
Congrats! Unfortunately at this stage, BYD Seal is not compatible with Tesla V3 Superchargers … BYD is reportedly investigating this issue.
Otherwise, non-Tesla vehicles in general must use the Tesla app to use the Supercharger network
Hi Tom,
One other question has the Tesla app removed the charge your non-Tesla option from the app as on only see “charge your EV” when I downloaded the app
Regards
Anthony
@@AnthonySams-ty8vy Hmm perhaps it’s the same thing? Given I have a Tesla perhaps it’s listed as “non-Tesla” for me but maybe it’s “EV” for non-Tesla owners 🤔
Hey Tom, I am contacting you from Canada. Can you post the screen in the app that shows all the countries that non native TESLA'S can charge. That is a very interesting screen. That was quite a long list of countries. Currently, in North America, only Teslas can charge at super chargers.
BTW, the proper etiquette should be to charge your vehicle at a charger that can maximize its charge speed. Leave the faster chargers open to vehicles that can actually utilize the higher speeds.
Also, the cost per KWH is quite expensive .
A video with the list of countries would be quite interesting.
In my Tesla app, I can see most of Western Europe with Superchargers open to non-Teslas. I won’t be able to see North American sites regardless because we use CCS2 instead of the Tesla proprietary plug you use on your continent.
In an ideal world yes etiquette dictates that cars with faster charge rates go to faster chargers but I think in reality people will just be guided by price and convenience. Pricing for Tesla SCs are more expensive than our third party chargers but of course you are paying for reliability
Thank you so much for great news!!!! I have now traveled nearly 6 1/2 thousand km’s and have pull into the Tesla charging station & nothing works so it’s wonderful to hear potentially in the next 12 months. Tesla station should be available to all Al Byd Car owners. Thanks for another terrific informative video I LOVE MY CAR.!!!
Pleasure! Safe travels 🙏
Tesla has indicated, at least in the US, through comments on the Auto Focus CZcams channel that they will be extending the charger cable lengths post pilot program to reach different vehicle charge port locations.
Yup since this video was posted, we know now the V4 super chargers have longer cables for this reason 🔌
79c/kWh seems like a fair bit. Definitely better having Tesla charges as an option is fantastic but doesn't exactly seem ideal in terms of cost
In reality, I’d be happy to pay that if all other chargers were faulty, there are hungry kids in the car and I still had a fair distance to travel with the setting sun. It’s a great backup option 👍
Just looking at the Google map setup on the Polestar, you can’t select a Tesla supercharger as a destination. This means the battery preconditioning won’t work enroute.
Google may need to amend that
Just select the NRMA charger
@@LudicrousFeed It's a Polestar issue, nota Google one.
Could be that future software updates have a manual button for battery pre-heating.
How can we turn on a/c and infotainment screen while charging
You can. Just leave the car on while it's plugged in - you can run AC and listen to music etc
Our newest Tesla park is open for other brands, but does not work with My Atto 3. So it is not a given that it will work even if they are open for other brands. ID4 works fine for example.
There’s a known issue currently with BYD Atto 3 and V3 Tesla Supercharger hardware (Dec 2023)
@@LudicrousFeed good to know.. any updates by now, Marc 24
@@somewherehere424 Still waiting for BYD to sort this out …
So a Tesla owner has to pay another membership to charge their non Tesla vehicle at a Supercharger for the Tesla vehicle price? Even if the case, this will be good backup when taking the Ioniq to Tamworth instead of our Y. Thanks Tom.
Agreed, it's a great fallback option for if/when the third party chargers fault
I read that there are only 5 stations in Sydney enabled for this
0 in Sydney but 5 stations in NSW - watch toward the end of the video where I discuss
Having sold my Model 3 and ordered a Seal Premium - do I need to reinstall the Tesla app on my phone and create an account without being a Tesla owner anymore AND recover the charging functionality ?.
You shouldn’t need to. The Tesla account will remain with you after you sell
@@LudicrousFeed having done a reset on the car, it now doesn’t use/recall my old account when I attempt to reinstall the Tesla app……I need to register BUT I don’t have a car to link to……….hmmmm
@@davidpearn5925 Ahh that’s a shame. May require a call to Tesla
Good report Tom. That removable plug is a worry. So how many km did you travel in that 2 and half hours? What was the kWh/100km rating for that trip. If it was as high as 16 it would make the BYD fuelling cost a worry. My wife's i30 diesel which uses 5.4l/100 x $2 a litre equals 11c per km on the highway (sometimes down to 4.5). If the Atto3 used 16kWh/100 x $0.79 equates to 13c per km and if it were 20kWh/100km 16c per km or 40% more than her car.
Irrelevant really as EV ownership is about tailpipe pollution at the end of the day.
Check out my previous SYD MEL SYD BYD road trip vids where I calculated the efficiency where it worked out to be approx 200Wh/km
I have been driving my Atto3 now for 9,000km. This includes freeway driving on long trips of up to 800km for more than half that distance. The cars computer says consumption on highways average 15.6kw/100km. Consumption off freeways (country driving in and out of town) 14.3kw/100km. Range and consumption is idiosyncratic.........not only is it about the car but also about how and where you drive and who and what is with you at the time. Driving in town, on my own and imagining an egg under the accelerator I'm down to around 13kw/100 km.
@@paulgannon7479 Very true Paul. We’re all individuals and drive in our own unique way 😃🙏
Hi Tom, as always love the videos. Quick question. Am I correct to say that when telsa opens the network to others at a supercharger station, that means all the stalls are unlocked? Or only a couple and the rest for tesla?
Reason for my question is I'm slightly worried when this takes off. Coming into a v3 supercharger wanting to top up but having to wait for a BYD hitting only 60 or 80kw.
Also the Jag EV having the charger on the front left means they take up 2 charging stations..which is actually ridiculous. That will not be something that people will tolerate waiting for an I-pace to finish charging at its top 100kw and taking up 2 bays.
This is very concerning.
I agree there are kinks that need to be worked out with regards to parking non-Tesla EVs. I don’t know exactly what the logistics of the eventual opening of the network will be - we just have to assume that the boffins at Tesla have thought this through
Great move to make sure that all EV drivers have access to chargers when out and about. Much more charging infrastructure required too.
I am thinking of buying a BYD. Do you need to download the Tesla APP to do this even if you don't own a Tesla?
Yes the Tesla app is required
How can I get free supercharging for my (soon to arrive) ATTO 3?
Can you let the rest of us know if/when you do 😁
darn, 79c for kwh? that is expensive, especially considering energy is so abundent in australia. does tesla charge extra for non tesla evs?
We pay higher rates on the highways for the speed, convenience and reliability (esp for Tesla SC) so that we can get back on the road. It’s a different scenario comparing it to domestic usage at home
- As explained in my video, non-Teslas are charged 13c/kWh higher than Teslas. This can be discounted to the same as Tesla owners if they subscribe to the membership for $9.99 per month. Tesla owners don’t need to subscribe to get the lower rate
@@LudicrousFeed the relative high rates should encourage more third party investment into charging facilities, which in turn encourage higher ev ownership, which makes chargers more profitable and eventually drive down the cost. hopefully things go like that.
Tesla do need to fix the ability for unplugging while charging as the CCS should lock in place like it does on other DC fast chargers, well even AC it does. Good to see another option for road trips when the Tritium charger is broken and has been for 6+ months. Nice to see the Atto 3 again as well. :)
It's the car, not charger which controls the locking of the connector. The car should NEVER ask the charger to deliver energy with the connector unlocked.
As others have mentioned in previous comments, there’s apparently a charge lock setting in the BYD
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom, didn't know that definitely something I would have turned on then. Would be good if it could be set for DC charging when charge complete whatever that was set for then it can be unplugged and the port is unlocked at that point and only that point.
What version is the charger? V3 or V2?
V2
Does the cafe have a WC? Otherwise people are expected not to go in evening or night?
Toilets are open 9-5 everyday as I mentioned in the video. The cafe is not open 24/7 so unfortunately no, there are no WC options after dark
@@LudicrousFeed That is awful. ALL charging locations need HUMAN facilities, 24hour, well lit with staff. This is why single women fear getting an EV.
@@honesty_-no9he Honestly I wouldn’t want to turn up to a poorly lit EV charger with no facilities at night either
BYD ATTO 3 👍👏💪🇸🇬
The chargefox, nrma, aka tritiums have been pretty good in working locking with all ev.brands ..surely Tesla can work thru to make their SC behave the same for all EVs.. guess they ve so far geared their software interface for SC to behave / work with their own cars..
Apparently I’ve since been told the charger can be locked via a setting in the car
Of course Tesla have geared their software ecosystem to work seamlessly between car / Supercharger, that’s what makes it an awesome experience. .
Sure Tesla could program the app to work with an infinite amount of brands / models or those other manufacturers could agree on a standard behaviour for charging so charging operators can function in a consistent manner.
This all comes down to standards.
I guess as EV owners we just look out for these quirks moving forward, it can only improve. 👍🏻
It's the fault of the car, not the charger.
Thanks for testing it. With the pricing though, I can see the NRMA charger being a more popular option at that location. Unless it's a lot slower.
Until NRMA start charging a fee I suppose
Time is money.
.79 .kwh. sounds like expensive electricity to me when our residential rates are around .25 /kwh on average in BC Canada including the wacky fees & taxes. Is this a huge up charge on Tesla's part or typical for charge stations? Sorry, I don't know the rate at Tesla charging points here but at 3 times the residential rate would have me charging at home as much as possible.
Yeah it’s the norm in Australia that DC rates are higher than home electricity given we pay for speed and convenience. I personally also don’t use DC fast charging unless I’m on a road trip or if I’m demonstrating for CZcams
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks
First choice BYD
$32.39 / 205km range added ($0.158 per km)
This shocks me for sure.
I'm getting consistent $0.17 per km on the highway in a new V8 manual Mustang.
I really expected this to be much cheaper.
Be interesting to see how other Tesla owners in general react as "their" stalls become more occupied in busier locations.
Thanks for the video!!!
Yup you only have to check out the results of the poll from my recent live stream to gauge the reaction
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my v8 diesel touareg is cheaper than that
Thing is though, when you charge at home, it's typically around 1/3 the cost. Sometimes a little more. That's before you factor in Solar, and some people put their chargers on an off peak circuit.
Lots of free chargers around too, particularly at shopping centres.
My Leaf is costing me less than $35 per 1000km.
So realistically speaking you only pay the high prices on road trips. If you were driving between capital cities weekly, a Hybrid or Diesel might be cheaper to fuel (but not to service).
@@LudicrousFeed how did it go Sydney to Bathurst? You started this video at 46%, you went over 1900m-ish in altitude, did the Atto use a lot of juice going up the mountains? Did you charge anywhere? Did you go Bells Line or Great Western?
Ta 🙂
@@nadnerb2k Great Western Highway. Stopped once at Lithgow for coffee. Didn’t charge at all until I got to Bathurst
Can you stop the membership fee if only needing it once for a trip?
Sub on/off as needed?
Is a monthly subscription.
Not bad, I think Tesla did quite well considering a lot of other brand EVs have different quirks like power buttons etc and different behaviours when charging. Time for other manufacturers to step up and update their settings if they want their customers to access the Supercharger network.
How come BYD does not have a contact phone number and no customer parking in the Sydney showroom.
From the BYD Automotive Australia website: 1300 293 288
Why can’t it be credit card based? Just getting the app to do what it needs to do has wasted 10 mins. And how unsafe is that location in the middle of the night for a lone driver especially females.
Does any one know if there are laws to prosecute people that unplug charging EV's? I see that this may be necessary as I have witness people unplugging EV's at my local charge station.
The car physically locks all Type 2 or CCS2 connectors. Only Chademo and Type1 connectors have buttons for unlocking on their handles,, both standards are not used on modern EVs.
@@moestrei CHAdeMO also has the capability for the car to lock the connector in place during charging. The release button won't work unless you stop the charge from car or rapid unit.
Good luck getting the police to follow that up..
So if I have done my math correctly. The difference in having a membership is .13 a kW. So that means you need to charge 76 kW a month to break even on the 9.99 membership fee.
Yes that’s correct. For this car at 200Wh/km on the highway, you’d need to travel at least 380km to make the membership worth your while
That's correct but it doesn't have to pay back back monthly just because it's a monthly subscription. You could also get it to payback 12 months of membership on single trip like Tom did to Adelaide (assuming the pilot program is extended across the country). I don't think many will join but some might take up the option. Most will just use on an ad hoc basis.
Try unplugging with the car locked but the keys aren't on you or near the car
As others have said in the comments, apparently it's a car setting to lock the charger
How many Tesla's are going to be seen with pole strikes on the boot lid?? They are going to be pissed!
I find the rear camera in our Model 3 extremely helpful
is it possible to have sowtware stop the car at the correct distance
If you can park a car properly this will not be an issue 😂
Teslas got great reversing cameras.
Well if you can't drive for shit.. oh that's right.. Tesla drivers
The charging cost is almost $30, on top of that you waited for 50mins. It's not quite good value for money.
Yeah the BYD charges relatively slowly
Welcome to EV's 😂 Smart people will stick with ICE cars
Good info well presented. (Tesla 3 owner). My absolute bugbear are ICE parked in EV bays. How would ICE drivers like it if EV were parked at petrol pumps!
In NSW, there’s a max fine up to $2200 for any vehicle that’s parked in an EV spot and not charging - this includes both EVs and ICE
Shouldn't of made the change then champ 😂
It appears that Tesla is trying to make non- Tesla charging just as irritating as seems to be the norm for 3rd party charging, but not quite getting there yet…….
I wish they would open destination chargers to non Tesla's
Tesla is starting to open their Gen 3 chargers to non-Tesla EVs. Take a look at the same non-Tesla section in the app and you will see them
On most Gen2 Destination Chargers you can switch to all cars with a Dip Switch inside the charger (Dip2 down to Legacy mode). On Gen3 models it can be done using the app. Operators of gen3 Destination Chargers can opt to have Tesla charge money as operators cannot legally sell electricity.
Are all tesla superchargers max 150?
V2 130kW
V3 250kW
The V2 have two plugs whereas the V3 are only single
Winner winner chicken dinner yay lol
How are you gonna pay if both your EV and phones run out of batteries?
Then you really need to plan your life better
You can’t activate charging unless you’ve set up your payment method in the Tesla app beforehand
still waiting Y performance in OZ. My account still says Jan to March, they will reach out when they allocate a VIN.
So all Aussie Tesla owners, how many days weeks b4 delivery did you get your VIN?
Anyone know at what point I am legally liable for more than my $350 AUD deposit?
I used to think I'd buy an electric vehicle after I've retired when I'll have more time. Now I think I'll wait till I'm dead.
That’s really sad 😢
Great, Tesla has given away access to existing charging infrastructure for absolutely zero benefit to Tesla owners.
Now Tesla owners can wait at busy Supercharging locations while slow BYDs, and other EV brands that have invested zero in Australian charging merely charge away. Absolutely outrageous.
At the moment Teslas clog up public chargers even though there are Tesla chargers nearby because of the cheaper rates. This will even things up.
'Tesla Tom' might need to change his name to 'BYD Brian' ;)
And they give up on having the only reliably working network in Australia to be avaiable exclusively for their cars. I used to say if you want to travel a Tesla is the only EV to buy.....
Suk shit champ 🤣
Ps can the power charging ever be increased ( from about 88kw) as an over the air update?? Or it’s 100% a hardware issue??
WHEN WILL APPLE CAR PLAY BE COMING; SOON???? I read it’s possible the dealer can update it using their USB???
Pps range anxiety is going to be a real illness in years to come!!! when that orange battery comes on so does anxiety!!!, especially when it’s 11pm at night and half the charging stations are teslas or not working, even locked locked up in Brisbane city.
I finally found a charging that runs at a massive 4kw !!!??!! ( why would they bother making a public charger so slow!!??!! That’s ONLY nearly double my granny charger, 1.4kw )WT approx 9hrs to fully charge ( f^%*#) . after 4 hrs had 50%, which I thought would be enough to get me to Byron Bay where there’s a free NRMA fast charger (40kW) 20% to 80% approx 25mins.
Then you go through the issue that when you have only 10% left, what happens if there’s an issue with the charging station arrrrrrrrr!! I guess really they’re bigger problems on earth 🌎 BUT ITS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE AT THE TIME LOL and really becomes in issue in emergency and they don’t happen too often🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Thanks again
Bring on more sites and show the feds how its done.
I may have made a similar comment from my gaming account on the Insta reel but; I would definitely buy in if it was brought to metro superchargers
The real question that should be ask. How many chargers has BYD invested in countries they sell their EVs?
BYD partner with various networks eg. there's a deal with Evie networks in Australia
But no, there's no BYD 'Supercharger' per se
Would be good if you screen recorded your iPhone and then overlayed the video instead of trying to film the actual phone screen while you use it.
Thanks for the suggestion
My diesel doesn’t look so bad after all.
it’s going to be so inconvenient when you have to download all these apps
Or you don't have reception..