HIDDEN RECORDING: Disfellowshipped Girl Begs To Be Reinstated As A Jehovah's Witness

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  • čas přidán 12. 10. 2016
  • This was recorded secretly by a girl hoping to see her family again. She begs and cries at the Jehovah's Witness elders hardheartedness because they believe she may have had contact with her family while disfellowshipped. It's a heartbreaking ending.

Komentáře • 202

  • @jwsuicides8095
    @jwsuicides8095 Před 7 lety +38

    It's so cruel. SO cruel. If they had a problem with her parents cleaning her fridge then they should have taken it up with her parents. The pettiness here is beyond humane comprehension.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 7 lety +4

      JW Suicides yes very very cruel and these elders are still at large, destroying people's lives. So happy to be free now

  • @twowitnessrule3753
    @twowitnessrule3753 Před 6 lety +12

    ATTENTION!!! I know all the people involved in this recording. The first names of the elders are used in the recording. Ralph, Gary and Bob. Their full names are Ralph Williscroft, Gary Black and Robert Stevenson. They are all still serving as Elders. Ralph, rather bizarrely, has actually posted a comment below stating that the recording was illegally obtained and asking for it to be removed. Everyone please scroll down, find Ralph Williscroft's comment, reply and let him know how you feel about his conduct. Thanks.

    • @lancemilliken9078
      @lancemilliken9078 Před 5 lety

      Thank you for exposing this

    • @LuludarlingScotland
      @LuludarlingScotland Před 2 lety +1

      What congregation do they serve in? This needs to go viral. My heart breaks for this young woman. She clearly had been through a really tough time. Reminds me a bit of the ' Apostasy film and I did ask the director of that movie had he seen this clip, which he hadn't. I would urge anyone to watch that movie too to see the digusting uncaring way these wee Tin gods treat people.

    • @twowitnessrule3753
      @twowitnessrule3753 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LuludarlingScotlandForres in Moray, Scotland

  • @roxnpennies
    @roxnpennies Před 7 lety +42

    My husband became a JW about 4 years ago. Since then I have come to realize that this unfortunate sect is made up of mainly two kinds of individuals: sadists and masochists. The sadists are the pompous, arrogant hipocrites who will frown upon and belittle all and any who fall short of the Watchtower's nonsensical standards. The masochistic group are those who would do anything for a crumb of approval from the first group of tormentors. Ultimately, their relationship is not with God but with each other and they strive to please nobody but themselves.

    • @darthfader733
      @darthfader733 Před 7 lety +11

      Nailed it! Being associated with the JW ORG is like being in an abusive relationship.

    • @davidhill8565
      @davidhill8565 Před 7 lety +11

      Darth Fader And being a child of a JW is like being a child of an abusive parent.

    • @massagetherapyforinjuriesf8197
      @massagetherapyforinjuriesf8197 Před 7 lety

      sooooo true

    • @annabizaro-doo-dah
      @annabizaro-doo-dah Před 6 lety

      . Unfortunately you can add the credulous to that list, the innocent and trusting types that can't believe that people can lie and deceive. You have utterly summed it up though.

    • @lancemilliken9078
      @lancemilliken9078 Před 6 lety

      roxnpennies very well articulated

  • @lindahartle3137
    @lindahartle3137 Před 7 lety +12

    Sorry but these men are behaving just like the Religious leaders in Jesus day..showing no mercy,The Bible says,those who show no mercy,will be given no mercy….Sad and cruel..

  • @2fasttruck1
    @2fasttruck1 Před 6 lety +4

    I left the religion almost 8 years ago....along with my family! My mother pleaded with me to meet with the elders for a meeting because they felt I was dissociating myself and had to have a formal meeting...I refused to give them that power, and never met with them...I am so sorry for your experience!

  • @rochelle_johnston2703
    @rochelle_johnston2703 Před 2 lety +2

    Big hugs The Pale Emperor, I truly hope you're a survivor and enjoying life with your son. Hugs, hugs and hugs.

  • @LuludarlingScotland
    @LuludarlingScotland Před 6 lety +6

    My heart breaks for this girl. I hope she never goes back. I grew up as a JW. I regular pioneered and was a zealous witness, despite being Sexually, emotionally and physically abused by my elder father, ( for 14 yrs) he was privately and then publically reproved ( never disfellowshipped.) I was asked at the age of 15 ( in 1980) whether I was encouraging my step father, and what kind of underwear I wore? Are u serious you sicko's??!! My mother bought my underwear from British Home Stores lol. We were moved cong and warned not to tell anyone about the abuse despite it being leaked by an elder on the committee's wife. I left the org in 1990. In 2015 I watched the Australian Royal Commissions investigation into the cover up of sex abuse within the JWs on you tube. I had not been alone. There were thousands of us who have been let down by the Org. Now I am suing the Watchtower. I hope this young girl frees herself from the clutches of these blood suckers and realises there are fantastic people in our beautiful world. That she can go on and have a wonderful life. Yes it will be hard but she will and can find support. I am free and I am extremely proud that I have brought up my 2 daughters alone and they are strong independant woman who can make their own choices in life. They are compassionate and wonderful girls. I am thankful every day that my children have not been brought up as JWs. There is life after the borg!! I urge the girl in this video to seek support and perhaps councelling and I would be happy to help her out in any way I can if she wants to get in contact. No one should be made to feel guilty for caring/loving someone just because they are in a diff religion. Much love to her. ❤

    • @yvonne3903
      @yvonne3903 Před 4 měsíci

      Hi Lulu ♥️ it's absolutely nothing about what you wear or your underwear, these guys have been wanking to too many underwear catalogue. It's all about control. Which is very much in keeping with Jehovah's witness religion, I know you know this. See you soon hopefully.

  • @edithknox-freedomfighter905

    I'm so glad that I left that cult! I'm a lot happier now then I was 7 months ago!

  • @rachels2606
    @rachels2606 Před 7 lety +6

    Let me say something to you, It took me fifteen years to get reinstated. There was not one time they asked about my family helping me out. I was in my late twenties and thirties. Also, I was doing nothing wrong and made all the meeting while serious sick. M mother had cancer and was dying. The Kingdom Hall was Vancouver Washington Rosemere congregation. Those brother and sister will be guilty and held responsible for how they treated me. Finally, after many years, I went to another hall and was reinstated with in nine months. I can tell you that the elders who reinstated me lied. I can tell you that the elders who refused to reinstated me were not my original elders and they made themselves my original elders which is another lie. I knew nothing about original elder arrangement. I can tell you that the person who reinstated me told me that only the original elders need to know why I was dfd and promised me they would never find out why. Prior to reinstatement the original elders had to meet with me(only one was living) so they put a check on a paper and send it to Bethel. Their conversation was more about the up grade of the kh. They were strangers! I was reinstated then the one who claimed and promise to never find out called the original elder to find out. He probably is dead now, His name was Chuck Martini lied like a big dog. Anyhow, most elders were caught in lies. Meanwhile the congregation was cold. I left because of doctrine lies and I no longer believe in this religion doctrines. Chuck Martini face broke every time he had to see me, knowing he lied. He claimed he wanted to find out so he can help me! Another lie because he told his wife and his wife told the other people! He never apologized for his actions. Also there was another perverted elder on my committee who looked and all the sister bust. Odd! I hope you spare yourself all the hurt and pain of what I went through. The elder who would not reinstated me was famous his name was Bob Card. Everyone admired and respected him a little bit too much! He was Rosemere demi god. They have no right to asked why you wanted to get reinstated considering being able to speak with family members should be a good enough reason. When I was getting reinstated there was not as much on CZcams so I had to go through society books to find the lies. I am a proud Freedom Fighter and hope many will see your video and walk away! I spent time on AOL exJws chat to help others! I had biblical questions and the JWs had no answers to them so I found AOL chat pre You Tube. Forgiveness comes from Jesus Christ. I hate this organization and believe it is ruled by men only! God has nothing to do with it, but Illuminati does!

  • @barbmichaels5351
    @barbmichaels5351 Před 7 lety +12

    Sad. My heart breaks for this girl. What business is it of these men to judge her?

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 7 lety +3

      Don't be sad, I'm ok now, I didn't realise my recording was on CZcams but I'm glad and I hope it helps others see the dark side of the "truth"

    • @marksteel4162
      @marksteel4162 Před 4 lety

      Woe to you scribes and Pharisees hypocrites! You shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men's faces. You yourself do not go in and neither do you let those desiring entry.

    • @marksteel4162
      @marksteel4162 Před 4 lety +1

      @@feelingroovay7080 are you the girl on the recording? I was disfellowshipped myself even though I was the one who went to the elders and confessed my wrongdoing. I remembered this scripture.is anyone in the congregation sick among you? "Let him go to the elders who will pray over him and anoint him with oil if he has committed sins it will be forgiven him." What complete and utter bullshyt!
      I was terribly sorry for what I had done and that's why I confessed to the elders but they did not see it that way.
      Apparently, they can read what's in your heart!

  • @warmccl
    @warmccl Před 7 lety +15

    elder: boys in the world are out for one thing which is sex!
    girl: no I don't think that was his agenda
    elder: so it was yours hahaha!
    wtf.

  • @bankruptbritain6103
    @bankruptbritain6103 Před 7 lety +4

    There is a scripture in the book of Zachia that states:- 'thine shall always check thines aubergine and cabbage draw, if lest ye be sinning and mother and father cleans thinest fridge out, then thou must be smited with brimstones and fire'

  • @tiffanychappel1063
    @tiffanychappel1063 Před 7 lety +4

    She sounds like such a sweet person, and I was so proud that she stood up for her ex by saying that he didn't just want sex, but actually cared for her. I was bristling at the elder saying "worldly" men only want one thing. Surely, they aren't so elitist and sheltered to actually believe that non-JW men are carnal beasts, whereas JW men are asexual. And them spying on her was just creepy. Hopefully, she and her child (if I understood that correctly) are able to have a good relationship with her ex/child's father. Why, if a child was involved, didn't the elders care to help make that family dynamic work, and instead just expected her to cut the ex out of her life? It made no sense.

    • @yvonne3903
      @yvonne3903 Před 4 měsíci

      Me too. I like many grew up with that nonsense that worldly men only want one thing, complete and utter nonsense.

  • @stanley1771
    @stanley1771 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Good for her standing up to these blind oppressors!

  • @gabrielkoncowski9663
    @gabrielkoncowski9663 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi you are a precious girl.you dont need cross examination. You need to be loved by family and true friends. Thks for sharing.we care regards from england

  • @andrethomas4048
    @andrethomas4048 Před 7 lety +11

    This is so terrible. She is completely genuine. May God judge these men

  • @alexstone7035
    @alexstone7035 Před 7 lety +7

    That was really hard to listen to. Poor girl.

  • @SCD4
    @SCD4 Před 2 lety +2

    My goodness I cry at the end. I must have listened to it 20 times. The poor thing.

  • @artisallthat
    @artisallthat Před 7 lety +15

    Well you know that in the story of the Prodigal Son, the bible left out a part. When the father ran out to embrace his son, 3 elders stepped in the way and told the father and son that they shouldn't speak to each other or the father clean out the son's fridge until they had the elders approval.

    • @swordhunter12
      @swordhunter12 Před 5 lety +1

      That's the funny thing about shunning, if you actually read through the Bible, even the Old Testament, more verses speak out against shunning than support it.

  • @RBLTD
    @RBLTD Před 4 lety +2

    So so sad , we’re is the loving kindness these shepherds should be showing. This girl has had problems and on her own!!!!!!!! I’m not surprised that they are loosing so many every year this girl poured her heart out!! Jesus and Jehovah will be furious with this committee.

  • @checkthefacts.
    @checkthefacts. Před 3 lety +3

    So completely contrary to the story of the prodigal son where the father ran out to meet his son no strings attached

  • @MrStardust50
    @MrStardust50 Před 5 lety +2

    This is brutal but helped me to wake up a few years ago. I will be forever grateful that this young woman shared her horrendous experience with us.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 4 lety +2

      I am so pleased it helped someone, it was my normal life at the time. How happy I am to be free of them. Salvation is through Christ not the governing body!

    • @MrStardust50
      @MrStardust50 Před 4 lety +1

      @@feelingroovay7080 Thank you. It was the second "apostate" thing I watched/listened to as I started investigating.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 4 lety

      Alvin Shipperley I hope you are in a good place now?

    • @MrStardust50
      @MrStardust50 Před 4 lety +2

      @@feelingroovay7080 Yes, I'm an actual Christian now.

  • @AlexHernandez-zg2ud
    @AlexHernandez-zg2ud Před 7 lety +2

    My brother was disfellowshipped and from what I've seen the jehovas whitness has torn him away from this family. I'm not at the age to make my own decisions but when the time comes I'm pulling out of the jws like nothing before

  • @Nocturnalux
    @Nocturnalux Před 7 lety +5

    Oh this poor young woman...having to discuss her sex life with a bunch of old guys! It's none of their business!

  • @pedrogonzalez6880
    @pedrogonzalez6880 Před 7 lety +17

    I was born and raise in this organization. left 2 years ago, not easy but possible. going 40 years, MUCH happier! !!

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 7 lety +1

      Yh, it's only been 103 years late... it's "just around the corner" isnt it Life Agent?
      How is the generation that will by no means pass away? Any of them still alive?

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 7 lety +1

      Woah, you think Noah and the flood actually happened?!!! 4.5 billion years of geology would disagree with you. Do you also believe that Balam's donkey actually spoke? Do you believe that Stephen Lett is going to be a King and Priest in heaven with Jesus? The book Salvation (1939) p.311 states:
      "At San Diego, California, there is a small piece of land, on which, in the year 1929, there was built a house, which is called and known as Beth-Sarim. The Hebrew words Beth Sarim mean "House of the Princes"; and
      the purpose of acquiring that property and building the house was that there might be some tangible proof that there are those on earth today who fully believe God and Christ Jesus and in His kingdom, and who
      believe that the faithful men of old will soon be resurrected by the Lord, be back on earth, and take charge of the visible affairs of earth. The title to Beth-Sarim is vested in the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society in trust, to be used by the president of the Society and his assistants for the present, and thereafter to be forever at the disposal of the aforementioned princes on earth. . . . while the unbelievers have mocked concerning it and spoken contemptuously of it, yet it stands there as a testimony to Jehovah's name; and if and when the princes do return and some of them occupy the property, such will be a confirmation of the faith and hope that induced the building of Beth-Sarim."

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 7 lety +1

      "There was also a Time when the Apostle's thought the resurrection had already taken place does that make them false?" - YES!
      To be fair Life Agent, you dont know me. You dont know what i do, how i treat people etc. I'm actually questioning your beliefs yet you're responding with hate. I wouldn't want to live in a totalitarian regime, which is precisely what "the new system" would be. Think about it. In your religion there is no room for questioning doctrine, disagreeing with "new light" (which has at times flip-flopped back to previous old light), required to report your family and friends to the society, not allowed non JW friends etc. It sounds like North Korea to me.
      Check out JWFacts.com. It's written by a former Bethelite and elder Paul Grundy. Everything on there is backed up from Watchtowers own publications. I do hope you honestly research your beliefs. People are leaving the Watchtower Society in droves, they're hemorrhaging members (and donations). Did you notice the title of this years Convention? People are waking up leaving thanks to the internet and people keeping old publications as evidence of Watchtower failures.

    • @pauldavid6345
      @pauldavid6345 Před 7 lety

      Did you vote for Trump? Are you a JW?

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 7 lety +2

      Hi Life Agent. You dont seem to understand that i am quite openly a Satanist. That means i worship myself. There is no god and there is no devil. The character of Satan as portrayed in the bible is the savior of mankind fighting back against the oppressive, slavery condoning, rape condoning, stoning condoning "god" you call Jehovah.
      Yes, i remember the "worldwide brotherhood" but dont you realise that the Mormons have the same thing? As do the Exclusive Brethren, Christadelphians, Buddhists and... yep, Satanists too.
      Living in "the new system" is actually a dictatorship, think about it. You're only "free" and "loved" as long as you agree to all of the "new light" that comes from your uninspired Governing Body. Guess what will happen if you disagree with the "new light"? Yep - you'll lose all those "loving" brothers and sisters.
      Check out JWFacts.com and come back to me. May Satan bless you. Hail Satan. Ave Satanas Domini Infirni.

  • @warmccl
    @warmccl Před 7 lety +10

    tbh I got teary eyed when she broke down..she made complete sense. "Please be human"...

    • @annabizaro-doo-dah
      @annabizaro-doo-dah Před 6 lety +1

      warmccl And the worse thing is they would have loved that. They would enjoy the power they have over her life, as a young single mum she must not allow her parents to drive her to an airport. They are sadists.

  • @thefaithfuldiscreetdave9425

    These men have ZERO power. They have ZERO authority. You owe them NOTHING. I’m so sorry you went through this but I hope you now realise the truth. YOU are the one with the power. Not these idiots

  • @paulinesquirrell9117
    @paulinesquirrell9117 Před 11 měsíci +1

    It still brakes my heart that i didn't protect my daughter from these ....men😢

  • @mikesteele500
    @mikesteele500 Před 5 lety +3

    What cruel bastards they really are scribes and Pharisees to the T. I was also a disfellowshipped after confessing my sins to the elders wanting to make things right with Jehovah. They said I wasn't sorry for my sins. If I wasn't sorry then why the hell did I confess them and try to make things right with Jehovah? Who the hell do these men think they are that they can stand in judgment over you and tell what you're feeling inside your heart? Second of all what happened to the scriptures about the Prodigal Son? . It takes your average rank-and-file JW 18 months to get reinstated I never knew it took God so long to forgive someone. Mean while the children of Elders once they get disfellowship they can get reinstated within three months it's happeed many times before. What Hippocrates!

  • @elisenieuwe4649
    @elisenieuwe4649 Před 5 lety +3

    Wow, this actually goes against human rights. How the fuck it no gouvernment stopping these practices?

  • @lindadent1138
    @lindadent1138 Před 7 lety +5

    She sounds depressed.The wrong was that she had sex with someone dam she didn't murder anyone.The seriousness of her sin.Its called being human.Hell all she can do is attend the meetings to get reinstated.Many don't have a conscious they choose to live a double life.Its hard to talk to men on such a personal issue.She is finding it difficult to talk to them.They act like the F.B.I.This is sad.They expect you not to have feelings this is inhuman.

  • @broomhilda6115
    @broomhilda6115 Před 5 lety +2

    The harm these man caused was and is immeasurable

  • @bettyjanellull1315
    @bettyjanellull1315 Před 7 lety +2

    Just awful. So unkind. So unchristian. So unforgiving. So much a misuse of power. So detached. So much lack of insight. So against The Bible

  • @sermusicusa
    @sermusicusa Před rokem +1

    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

  • @gost4995
    @gost4995 Před 6 lety +2

    I feel for this girl. I was fortunate when I left my mom followed shortly after. I get to see her. Talk to her. Hug her. Tell her I love her and to have her say it back. This "Truth" breaks up families and yet preaches that we should care for our families. Divisive, ugly cult... He said she has to prove to THEM that she's ready??!! Who the fuck is he??!! They are making themselves God's!! So very sad.. There is no love in his voice. No empathy or emotion of any kind. If this was the only way I could get to speak with my family believe me, I would play the part just so I could. My prayers go out to her and I wish her family would wake up and realize this is a devastating cult.

  • @user-ep9iv8gt1i
    @user-ep9iv8gt1i Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely despicable how these elders behaved with this lady, who is asking for their empathy and compassion, which clearly they have NONE. Shame on them. I commend her parents for helping her when she needed the help, that's what good loving parents do. This organisation is cruel, and doesn't represent the true God and his son at all. I wish this lady the best, and hope she is ok.

  • @erichramone7812
    @erichramone7812 Před 4 lety +1

    Love, I hope your ok? I hope you made the good choice to leave that twilight zone world to better yourself. You deserve it. The end of the recording just breaks my heart. Are you doing well now???

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you, yes I’m much better, happier... most importantly free!

  • @thefaithfuldiscreetdave9425

    Oh man this is so triggering. I hate hate hate these men

  • @beyo124
    @beyo124 Před 6 lety +1

    This recording is heartbreaking. I feel so sorry for that young woman. Those men are simply heartless questioning why her own parents were associating with her???. But hey, Jehovah's Witnesses do not break up families!!

  • @esthermarygold-lowe4403
    @esthermarygold-lowe4403 Před 7 lety +8

    how more horrible and cold and sick and twisted could these men be. just for her parents doing only a few things for her.

  • @RobinT8845
    @RobinT8845 Před 7 lety +4

    I hope she has found happiness.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 7 lety +7

      Tani Robinson thank you I did, the scars are still there but I'm free now

  • @newnametemplejerk4723
    @newnametemplejerk4723 Před 6 lety +1

    Never answer questions people try and control you this way. So when they LDS or JW ask questions you would never ask do not answer!

  • @kaydenpat
    @kaydenpat Před 5 lety +2

    I’d love a video of her explaining what happened after this recording. Hopefully she left that awful church.

    • @wena504
      @wena504 Před 5 lety

      Sadly she ended up killing herself. She was a sister of a friend of mine.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 4 lety

      I made this recording, I have been thinking of doing a testimonial but I’m rather shy!

  • @jimscott49
    @jimscott49 Před 7 lety +2

    John 6:37 (KJV)
    Jesus said, All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
    If we confess our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

  • @paulbassett6659
    @paulbassett6659 Před 7 lety +6

    MY god how sick man are j,w very sick man

  • @pennytarrant6608
    @pennytarrant6608 Před 7 lety +2

    Those bastards will follow and spy on these vulnerable women. If the organization was providing what everyone needed within the organization, there would be no need to seek help from others. There would be no reason to fall off the path of righteousness and get involved with someone to help them with their struggles. The scriptural directives for the congregation to look after their flock's needs ie helping single and widowed and children. The men have to be good for more that donating sperm. They can get off their high horse and be human enough to provide real assistance. Anyone can read the scriptures, its the day-to-day living which requires GOOD MEN AND WOMEN TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE CONGREGATION RUN SMOOTHLY.

  • @Jade_7_7
    @Jade_7_7 Před 2 měsíci

    This broke my heart

  • @davidstevens618
    @davidstevens618 Před 6 lety +2

    GET RID OF THIS COLT

  • @BJBTJF54
    @BJBTJF54 Před rokem +1

    Was this young girl able to find peace. She originally referred to being in a dark place after being do and yet they glossed over it. Arseholes.

  • @newnametemplejerk4723
    @newnametemplejerk4723 Před 6 lety +2

    Funny who would waist there time with these bozo's in suits! They do not own you! They liked think that though. Give them no power. Do not respond to certified letters

  • @LoriDawnLynn1981
    @LoriDawnLynn1981 Před 6 lety +3

    Ah dontcha just feel that Christianly love

  • @jwsurvivor4170
    @jwsurvivor4170 Před 7 lety +3

    So heartbreaking, listening to this makes me sick to my stomach, I hope those "elders" suffer endless sleepless nights knowing they are responsible for the death of a beautiful young lady. They deserve worse but who am I to judge, sick, twisted cult

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 7 lety +2

      JW Survivor oh no, I am still alive, thankfully I chose to leave it all behind and start my life over from scratch and learn to think for myself and be free

    • @ABN6565
      @ABN6565 Před 2 lety

      And you're not a court you can leave anytime you want you're not a court just understand that okay trust me I left a couple times another call I'm 58 years old does anybody can tell you anything about your business it's me I've been waiting since I was a child and because of my stubborn and stupidity I should have listened to Bible counsel and not let an individual take me off course I should have let Jehovah take care of the person and he will and I maintains my service and I am now

  • @illudineye4469
    @illudineye4469 Před 5 lety +1

    Cruel to the core, without a shadow of a doubt.
    God saved this woman, pulled her out and away from this evil trap called Jahova Witness.
    She will forever be thankful to God for her disconnection from this cult. I hope she is doing well today. I also hope her parents left the cult after the way they treated their daughter.
    She made every effort to be brought back in but in the end, God made the choice for her exit, not this Godless committee.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 4 lety +1

      It took a long time and a lot of prayer to the true god (not their Jehovah) but we are all finally free and happy

  • @ThatWookieGuy
    @ThatWookieGuy Před 6 lety +1

    Heartless!!

  • @jehomahwilliams9003
    @jehomahwilliams9003 Před 7 lety +1

    As with any evil character, they believe they are doing the right thing. Which they are but only from a particularly narrow frame of reference. Many things can be true from a certain frame of reference as long as the ideas don't cross each other.

  • @davidstevens618
    @davidstevens618 Před 6 lety +3

    get rid of this clot

  • @Fmblogger04
    @Fmblogger04 Před 11 měsíci

    They took John 8:1-11 out of the New World Translation Bible. Its because they cannot justify situations like this.

  • @newstart4981
    @newstart4981 Před 11 měsíci

    Such a disgusting organization.

  • @christiansparlock-freedom2660

    Shared

  • @888AshLi
    @888AshLi Před 7 lety

    It's such a crime!

  • @gabrielkoncowski1403
    @gabrielkoncowski1403 Před 6 měsíci

    Judge jury and executioner in closed hidden court. Shame on these men.we are all sinners

  • @tommysmith5479
    @tommysmith5479 Před 4 lety +1

    What would Jesus do? Nothing, because he doesn't exist. As for the elders: yes, they sit in their ivory towers passing judgement on people who are struggling. And the mother and father? Well, they should bloody well love their daughter and their (presumably) grandchild, not shun them. But best of all, all of them should come to their senses and stop believing in anything the bible (or any other religious text) has to say. One last thought: if the woman really was repentant, why would she be recording the meeting? Clearly, there's a little more to the story than we know of.

  • @jofo817
    @jofo817 Před 5 lety +1

    Be happy, not sad that you were thrown out of a satsnic cult

  • @pedrogonzalez6880
    @pedrogonzalez6880 Před 7 lety +8

    remove all magazines, books, and especially THERE own interpretation of there BIBLE!!! START READING King James bible and you will understand.
    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of CHRIST!!!, HE is none of his.
    Romans:8:9
    Psalm 146:3 3 Do not put your trust in nobles Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring SALVATION . 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;On that very day his thoughts perish.

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 7 lety +2

      Hi Pedro. I think it's safer to read many different translations of the bible to get the right meaning. I did read that the King James version has a few errors in there, and since it's publication in 1611 there have been found earlier manuscripts that are more reliable.

    • @pedrogonzalez6880
      @pedrogonzalez6880 Před 7 lety +4

      +ExJW AGREE: most ppl would not do this. I myself have several different bibles and this includes Spanish. This is how I waked up. All my family are JW. but I BEING a husband and 4 children got them out.

    • @thesacredmom2784
      @thesacredmom2784 Před 7 lety +1

      Pedro Gonzalez I go to a website called biblehub to comparatively read individual scriptures sometimes, it icludes a king james version (I wasn't paid for that plug lol)

  • @thesacredmom2784
    @thesacredmom2784 Před 7 lety +3

    This made me cry, made me remember my own trials all over again. But something she said, 'can't you be human, please' ? Those nitpicking bas******, I don't know why some people who become elders lose their humanity but they do. I was asked in my meeting 'what did I do to make my husband mad enough to beat me' - I mean I must have deserved it right? One of the 5 elders said, "Lots of Elders beat their wives, you just need to turn the other cheek." Not brothers, he said Elders. Wasn't sure if it was a Freudian slip or not. She most likely didn't want to be shunned any more and wanted to be with her family. Was making the tape for her dad to hear her trying. Bless her heart, she young enough to be my daughter, I wish I could hug her and tell her that soon enough it will all be okay, just give it time.

    • @feelingroovay7080
      @feelingroovay7080 Před 7 lety

      The Sacred Mom that is very true, and the exact reason I recorded it.... sad times but hopefully you have come out stronger and happier as I have

    • @melaniecossey1508
      @melaniecossey1508 Před 7 lety

      I'm so sorry you had to be humiliated like that. It broke my heart thinking of my own JC and the disgusting situation I was subjected to. I'm so glad you are fine now and got the hell out of that poor excuse for a religion.

  • @craiglange4550
    @craiglange4550 Před 5 lety +1

    How heartbreaking, these eastwards are playing God, scripture even shows Jesus would never treat a person this way. It's not worth talking to elders or going to to their futile courts the way they think their authority is above the family arrangement. I hope this poor girl is ok.

  • @davidstevens618
    @davidstevens618 Před 6 lety +2

    get rid of this colt

  • @jf8461
    @jf8461 Před 7 lety +5

    If I were this girl's father I'd kick these GD elders asses!!Oh yeah, he is enforcing their policies... So damned sad

  • @checkthefacts.
    @checkthefacts. Před 3 lety

    There is something completely warped about a couple of guys asking nosey questions about a girls private sex life

  • @marksteel4162
    @marksteel4162 Před 4 lety +1

    Can anyone find one single scripture where God has a timetable for forgiveness?
    Where does he say tell me you're sorry and in 18 months from now maybe I'll forgive you and let you back?
    If so I guess the story of the prodigal son is b*******.

  • @jehomahwilliams9003
    @jehomahwilliams9003 Před 7 lety +1

    I found 11:00 quite disturbing considering they have meted out a form of discipline that they haven't (likely) experienced themselves. so they are jokey jokey about the subject.

    • @shetlandpony8903
      @shetlandpony8903 Před 6 lety

      Jehomah Williams also highly disrespectful, inappropriate and verging on harassment given the meeting was held privately between the girl and three older men.

  • @sergioalmirez6732
    @sergioalmirez6732 Před 7 lety +1

    JW DOCS checkout in the life of the disfellowshipped

  • @broomhilda6115
    @broomhilda6115 Před 5 lety +1

    And are thrown into the sea

  • @NoCoIntelPro
    @NoCoIntelPro Před 6 lety +1

    OMG. Horrible!!

  • @paulkiddconsultingptyltd7356

    Disgusting

  • @ABN6565
    @ABN6565 Před 2 lety +1

    Trust me the no one gets away with anything Jesus is on the throne with his angels of 144,000 on a standby as they continue to eccend is only a few left here on Earth.
    If Jesus finds out that one elder kept the sister under his thumb because of personal issues Jehovah will take care of it nobody's getting away with anything that's why I was hoping to see you to stay focused get back in here and share with Jehovah because Jehovah she's a creator and he looks down upon seems like this so does the angels and the brothers the blessings that this supposed to get and be careful just get you this phone take care take your medicine and and come back even stronger okay I know cuz I am disgusted and appealed it and they made their decision before I could even talk to them about my pill but remember it's Jehovah that's going to make the final decisions so don't worry keep going to the meetings and and remember get with a good friends just good ones there just like every organization there's a couple bad apples but it's always watching Jesus on standby and 145,000 angels they're not going to mess around when you have someone that's been fractured by elder personally and he just won't stop that elder was certainly pay for it can I pay for it even though he may still be an owner he ain't getting away with anything she's hiding behind his eldership but you keep me know he can't hide behind is Jesus Christ because Jesus is on the throne right now. I had to swallow my pride I was going to another congregation that was just beautiful to poured out on me and I was like why isn't my congression

  • @T120RT
    @T120RT Před 7 lety

    Here's more on shunning: czcams.com/video/47Ph7D5KPDs/video.html

  • @gabrielkoncowski1403
    @gabrielkoncowski1403 Před 6 měsíci

    Hey you cant read hearts.you dont know what your doing. 6 months jesus can do in 1 day.your actuons are not biblical. Attendance is not the most important. Stop judging this king girl who makes mistakes like everyone else.

  • @ralphwilliscroft4545
    @ralphwilliscroft4545 Před 7 lety +2

    This audio clip has been illegally obtained without the permission of 3 of the participants and should be removed from the site as well other 3 similar which are repeats of the original post

    • @thepaleemperor3445
      @thepaleemperor3445  Před 6 lety +4

      Seriously? The girl killed herself after being isolated by her family and that is your main concern?

    • @twowitnessrule3753
      @twowitnessrule3753 Před 6 lety +10

      Hi Pale Emperor. The reason why Ralph Williscroft is asking for it to be removed is because he is the elder leading the meeting in the recording. I know him. I have posted a comment trying to draw everyone's attention to that fact. Your help to spread the word would be kindly appreciated. Two Witness Rule.

    • @shetlandpony8903
      @shetlandpony8903 Před 6 lety +8

      As one of the judicial committee members Ralph, you are a vile incompassionate excuse for a human.

    • @FrozenWillow1980
      @FrozenWillow1980 Před 6 lety +7

      Did Jesus not say to "Love one another, just as I have loved you"? Moreover, Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
      Elders are meant to be shepherds.
      Matthew 18:12-14
      "What do you think? If any man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go and search for the one that is straying? "If it turns out that he finds it, truly I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine which have not gone astray. "So it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones perish.
      What blame do you take for causing so much pain and anguish Elder Ralph Williscroft? By doing this and causing so much grief to one person and albeit the family of this young woman you have literally not loved the way Jesus loved. He emulated his father in heaven. The governing body obviously do not do so either.
      A real christian would not treat his congregants in such a wilful disregard for his sheep. You are mandated by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to carry out such wilful psychological and emotional abuses on your members. It is now illegal in Scotland to abuse others emotionally. I wait with love for those who have been harmed with this abuse, to take you all to court for it and see you properly fined and the victims compensated for such treatment. Shunning causes suicides. Shunning causes mental ill health. Shunning is not christian. Shunning should be illegal. Which I have taken liberty of approaching the government. Shun away people you don't like, that serve you no purpose, this is fine. But an organisation telling you to do this is mandated by that organisation and is wrong. Jesus would never mandate shunning. Even Jesus washed the feet of a Pagan or as you like to call them, gentiles or nations in your bible. Seeing as I am not a christian now I will leave it up to you as to whether this mandated shunning is loving. I know it is not. You are welcome to view my blog as to why I would never return to this group. And this video, stays up so that people know the secrets of the back room. Or are you embarrassed by such wilful disregard for other human beings?
      silentlamb2silentnomore.wordpress.com/

    • @claudiuciorcas8236
      @claudiuciorcas8236 Před 5 lety +2

      Ralph, do not worry, your turn is coming soon.

  • @edithknox-freedomfighter905

    I'm so glad that I left that cult! I'm a lot happier now then I was 7 months ago!