That's exactly what happened HAHAHA Kishimoto always said in some points of the story that he didn't knew where he wanted to take the history :v He WAS inventing everything along the way. An that in tself is not a proble, cause Naruto is a character driven history, where the wordbuilding is less important than the character journey, BUT, when your worldbuilding doesn't tie correctly, and contradicts even the journey your character needs to go, then it becomes a problem
What do you mean? Theres been elemental chakra since Sasuke first used Fire style. Then everyone’s been using Wind, water, earth etc. Naruto just didn’t learn it til Shippuden because he sucks at learning.
Rushking20 #Cheesehead Academy students don’t learn elemental jutsu. Just the basics. There’s a reason why Kakashi state’s in episode fucking 5 that GENIN SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO USE FIRE JUTSU?!?!
@@Binks129 That's a common mistake people make, NO, we had elemental JUTSU! We have people using jutsu that were elemental based but we were NEVER thought or even hinted that everyone has an specific element for their chakra when tey're born. I'm reading the manga from the begning right now and we have only a moment where Kakashi thinks "Elemental jutsu comes later" and "A genin shouldn't learn how to do Katon". We were only showed that yes, people can use jutsu who have elements but it was much more like "These are techniques any ninja can learn, from any element but come nnja will be better at an element than other", and then, only in shippuden we were thought that people are BORN with an element attached to their chakra
The rest of the cast: *You have to control your chakra expenditure to not completely empty yourself and die* Naruto: *laughs in Kyuubi the Nine-Tailed Fox*
And the Uzumaki clan having a large amount of chakra to begin with. So naruto had an unfair advantage from the start making the entire theme of hard work beating everything even more meaningless!
@@lohengramm6969 literally every character has clan traits, shikamaru has his shadows, shino has his bugs, neji has his byakugan, haku has his ice, and naruto has his chakra.
I always thought if those techniques still applied to the established rules, like using a tailed beast bomb requires immense concentration and could cause immediate strain on the body after its usage, it might have helped the series.
"Taijutsu is hitting someone in the face, genjutsu is making someone believe they were hit in the face, and ninjutsu is throwing a fireball at them." That is quite possibly the greatest analogy to explain the completely broken power system of Naruto. XD
Hey man, don't ever feel awkward about distances and arbitrary deadlines between videos. Just make something you enjoy that you're passionate about. We'll be here regardless I do enjoy the power system series though, I'm glad its back!
I think in the MHA power system vid he talked about the bending power system for a bit. He compared both of them and how their similar so maybe that vid might help?
@@oryyyyx3129 yeahh that origin explanation was really unnecessary. I mean the mystery behind bending and avatar and spitual realm is really good to be left just the way it is as it give the sense of avatar as the higher being or embodiment(avatar) of god within that world. After they explain it with a detailed story of avatar wan it kinda take away those divinity the avatar has.
@Excelsior Man, you're not wrong. And the fact that we even get to see each sign they made. Nowadays it's like dudes are just spitting faster than Eminem and Busta Rhymes in goddamn sign language. And that's even if they are using handsigns which is rare.
@Haku infinite You might be fine with the series dumbing it down to big blow up jutsu nukes but I still say it does a massive disservice to what came before. Handsigns lost it's appeal abd uniqueness when the biggest and best jutsu around don't need them.
@@GaryJojo I think it would get boring after a while it's cool when you first see it, but could you imagine if they always stopped and weaved a shit ton of hand seals mid-fight? it's just impractical, it's like a bow vs a crossbow, they could be equal in power but a bow, while it takes more strength (skill in the case of hand signs) to draw it can be used faster, a crossbow has to be wound back up after being fired, a crossbow can be used by anyone but it takes longer between shots.
Yeah, I completely agree about the "details" coming to light later. It felt like he was making up rules as he was going along to justify the direction Kishimoto wanted to take, tbh. And then sometimes just doesn't justify anything, like "TRADING EYEBALLS"
Like when Kishimoto established that Obito couldn't use kamui when he had the Juuubi sealed inside him several chapters later Madara is a Juubi jinchuriki and is able to use kamui after stealing Obito's sharingan from kakashii with no explanation for the inconsistency
The Transplant with Sasukes eyes with Itachi's took days if not weeks to recover but by the war arc they were getting slapped into peoples heads like they were getting ear piercings.
Hand signs were definitely among the best elements of the series. In particular, I loved how they were revisited/addressed in Shippuden during Sasuke vs Deidara. That was cool lol.
They didn’t become vastly unimportant as a ninja grows hand signs aren’t needed as much. Think about them as training wheels in order to prep one for jutsu. After a point with the mastery sage mode and everything else hand signs wasn’t really needed he could form and concentrate chakra on his own without the training wheels.
fierce D was this ever stated in the manga because I don’t remember this being said? Or are we just supposed to ‘infer’ this? Genuine question. If it wasn’t stated I always felt like there was less emphasis on hand signs because the novelty of them wore off and for whatever reason Kishimoto just didn’t want to continue the trend? Maybe he got bored himself? Idk
Lalrivunga Hnamte while I do like the idea, but I always interrupted that line as, those roles of kages were so revered to the point of worship, so they had the mentally of “of course someone said to be so amazing can do something we can’t “
I wouldn’t say that. Lots of characters still use hand signs. Madara used a decent amount of them and the only way to stop the Reanimation was the learn the hand signs. Naruto and Sasuke also had to use a hand sign to undo the Infinite Tsukiyomi and you have stuff like Obito and Sasuke using other people’s hands to do hand signs. I think it’s less that it became unimportant and more that it became a standard rather than something new. After 100s of chapters, I doubt anyone wants to see characters slowly doing 40+ hand signs while chanting the names of each sign.
flameheadshero thats exactly what I mean haha it just was red focused on as much as the shippuden half went on! Like I assume the characters still used hand signs but it just wasn’t always shown because we got the gist of it
@@flameheadshero yes. But to clarify. It wasn't stated, one could only master or have affinity for certain types, and certain styles being the counter of another. Then after this Intro (during narutos rasenshuriken training arc) when "Chakra Nature's" is name dropped. Literally every battle after becomes "my nature counters yours, WHAT CHANGE IN CHAKRA NATURE IS THIS!?!?" This is Oceaniz arguement as it should've been stated at the beginning. Or as you put its things we've known about for a while. same with the word jinchuuriki. Its name dropped by Chiyo, then the entire world just all the sudden knows and uses it.
@@cubedone199 There was no real reason to bring up "jinchurikis" in part 1. Chakra natures.....aye, that still makes me shake my head. I still can't believe Naruto learned that so late into the game.
@@oceanplanet8160 na it woulda been dropped by Itachi or kisame when they met up with jiraiya. Same with Gaara. Plenty of opportunities. But wasn't anything yet. And also yes!! SMDH how after yrs with jiraiya he a NEVER mentioned to our favorite yellow haired dummy what a chakra nature is!? It didn't come up once!?? Haha 😂😤
Yeah that moment where Hiruzen the professor and god of shinobi, forgets all about elemental advantages and counters all the elements from the giant statue with the exact same element, instead of an advantagous one is really cringey. Like even if the elemental stuff had not been introduced countering fire with water feels so intuitive.
You ain't lying there that kakashi zabuza hand sign scene was GOATTTT And good point there I never noticed how the spread of chakra kinda ties into some of the themes of the show
And, if you pay attention to the fights (and I encourage you to), specially later on, the flashbacks happen when the characters "connect their chakras", AKA beat the shit out of each other with Chakra. That's why we have the famous conversations in another plane after Naruto and Sasuke connect a Rasengan with a Chidori, and everything about Obito flashbacks, because that's the purpose of Chakra, to connect humans.
@@VersusThem very interesting I actually was gonna post something relating to this on twitter, it was also weird how naruto and sasuke were able to talk to eachother in a mental plane
I always thought of Chakra systems as a Meta-nervous system they could use to generate energy in specific ways. Which is why I always wondered if some could use real life neurology statistics to hypothesize more.
Same! I think the Bleach power system is underrated. It is interlinked to beliefs and emotions, with Shinto beliefs being at its centre. I love that system~!
Ryon Reyne Yeah, because all of them thematically fit into him. He didn’t just unlock everything in the beginning. It’s unjustly hated too much until hating on it became a joke that makes you the ‘cool guy’. Hopefully, debunking the hate will become a trend instead.
10:10 As you said, it feels off because it would be the equivalent of Togashi waiting until the Kimera Ants Arc to finally reveal that there are 6 different types of Hatsu. And unlike the complexity of Nen, it feels all the more like a Kishimoto a$$ pull because it has close to no application in the rest of the series. To continue with the shaky comparisons, it would be the equivalent of Game Freak spending 3 hours explaining to you the power types system only for it to have close to no application in Pokemon.
@@Jay_SGE Well I agree with you but we at least need to have some rules. In Fairy Tail, for example, you basically never know the rules of magic itself but every magic has some type of flaw: Natsu needs to eat fire to power up, Gray's Ice depends on his imagination, Lucy's ability to summon spirits depends on her stamina, even without a complex explanation, you can figure out things and you know when tey're at their limit. In Naruto it kinda started that way but with a big problem: We had people using elemental jutsu withtout any explanation about Chakra natures. Yes we had an explanation of what chakra is, but we never knew that people were born with certain element in their chakra already, and even when this was a thing, we still had a lot of people with Jutsu that never fit on the 5 categories, people using multipe natures at the sime time, even though this was something to be called rare, we had some interaction between them but never made sense, like Raiton being stronger then Doton, but Lightning is useless agains earth. And yeah, there are some people who was just naturaly gifted and can do shit but Naruto never presented itself as a series like that! Fairy Tail was a series where you could use this argument cause it always presented itself as a soft magic system story, but Naruto always presented itself as a magic system with rules, nuances and complexity so it suddenly trasforming into a soft magic system where everyone can basically do everything is a problem and a very desastrous one
@@blacksmoke6292 I don't have a problem if you are not a JoJo fan but Akira is the name of a manga that was serialised in 1982. So people might get confused. And talking about JoJo, the Araki Forgot thing has been debunked. Its merely used as meme for fun. Some of the genuine Araki Forgot moments are just plot holes in general.
Of course Kishimoto was making most of it up as he went. He was a weekly serialized manga artist, the time commitment that demands is unbelievable. He even said that was what he was doing in an interview.
Yes, that's what basically every writter do, but the best writter's will make those made up thngs seem natural to the story or appear as if they were always there. Like Haki in One PIece or the Fullbring in Bleach, Oda and Kubo didn't had those ideas by the start of the series, but when they finally did, they introduced in a way where you can go back to the start of the series and understand things like Shanks scaring a sea monster with only his presence as King's Haki and Enel predicting your moves as Observation Haki, and in Bleach you have Chad telling to someone that he feels his powers are closer to those of a Hollow, which in the moment seemed like "Oh yea, okay, is not importante" but when you have the Fullbrings, it was trasnformed into a foreshadowing, cause you don't want your audience to know you havent't figured out how's your story's gonna follow, and Kishimoto never did that properly. He introduced us to one explanation, and then tossed it aside, he showed us some power and said it was high level and months later you see a guy invoking a meteor. And yeah, even Oda said that he doesn't know how he's going to defeat Kaido since he built him up as undefeatable, just Like Kishimoto didi with Madara, but Kishimoto simply shoved some new bigger villain which no matter how many times you come back to the manga, seems foreshadowed or plausible to end the story. When you don't make things seem to fit in your own story is where the problem lays
@Excelsior No, Oda really haven't planed the Shichibukai haha But when he tought about implementing them in the story, he took his time and care to implement them in a good and logical way
@@vcamv2354 To be fair, Haki has it's flaws too. Like apparently Crocodile, one of the greatest pirates in the world who even fought Whitebeard, doesn't know what Haki is.
@@vanjagalovic3621 What? Like... When it happened? Cause, when he fought Luffy he didn't needed Haki, and haki was also not invented yet, so it makes sense he doesn't mention it. And the next times he appears, Haki is not mentioned at all, but you can't say he doesn't know what it is just cause he doesn't mentions it
There are a lot of other fight's in the series. Boruto vs Kokou , Jugo vs Konohomaru. Sarada vs Butan honestly there really great its not dragged down by constant flashbacks and excessive dialogue its to the point. At this point the Boruto hate is a big meme.
@@demonking-zm3rs i think it's more that most people don't have time for anything Naruto-related anymore. The story's done, and its length is alr enough to cement itself as the past Big Three. Honestly, without memeing, Boruto trying to pick up where Naruto left off is kind of a mistake if what they're trying to do is appeal to the same fanbase. Series exhaustion is a thing after all. Look at what happened to Pirates of the Carribean. So rly, while I'm at best neutral about Boruto, I think it existing is categorically not a good decision.
My big issues with jutsu and chakra: At the start of the series it was pretty emphasized that you can't just expect to keep slinging jutsu's out an entire fight since A: the opponent will be actively trying to stop you so you wont have time to constantly be doing hand signs, and B: you will have a limited amount of chakra. These issues pretty much vanish, any character just stands there throwing out hand signs and every one else just lets them, and the "running out of chakra" bit just feels randomly thrown in to make a situation tense. Like sasuke vs deidara, sasuke has little to no chakra, but manages to dig up enough to summon manda, use genjutsu to control him, and escape. Also ninja tools are extremely useless through out most of the series, only really used to make fight scenes look cool
Firstly: It was only a problem when it actually took them time to use handsigns, they just got better. Just like it was such a big deal to learn how to walk on water at first. About chakra running out, what I said earlier also applies, they got more chakra reserves as they got better, but also, it definitely does come up, a LOT. sure they weren't burning through all their chakra in one small fight, it's just not that limited, but in very long fights it comes up a lot near the end of it, or when they have a lot of consecutive fights. First example that comes to mind but there are a lot more: czcams.com/video/8TeGjtlmM_I/video.html Secondly, even at the beginning, Sasuke had a pretty good amount of chakra; naruto just had so much more, but after him getting his curse mark and his intense training with Orochimaru AND LITERALLY OROCHIMARU"S CHAKRA, he got A LOT more than Deidara. Thirdly, did you forget about Sasuke's chidori blade? You know, that one ninja tool he used from the beginning of Shippuden, all the way to his "finale form"?
@@yuvalamir3226 Well, the point about the hand signs, yes, you could say they got better at it, but because of that the opponents simply stopped trying? Like, the only moment you can see someone trying to stop the opponent from completing a hand sign was the final Sasuke VS Naruto where he stopped all his hand signs to complete his own Jutsu, so, why never before? Even if you can do 100 hand signs in a second, your opponent should try to stop you. And the chakra thing was a problem cause first, Chakra was an energy of your body that tires you, that you need to build up inside you and canalize trough hand signs, but then, you could simply spam every move you want, not build up your chakra and go living your life. And we say about the "long fights" but they are only that long in the anime, if you look at the manga, from where the information really comes, battles are much faster, and that's the problem, when in EVERY FIGHT you have characters getting tired and then exploding with chakra cause they have a lot so they never run out, takes you away from the danger and belivability cause you know he will never be in a state where he can't make a jutsu or has to be logical to run away or survive, they can simply attack and attack and attack with almost no strategy cause they never run out of chakra, so they're never in true danger
It's honestly so irritating In terms of how Chakra as a power system forces the story's characters to fight each other in clever and deceitful ways full of tactics (at least until the War arc in Shippuden), how it was originally such a unique, complex, tightly-knit and brilliant system with intricate limitations placed on it so as to not have characters going crazy with its powers, how it was ingrained into the actual world of Naruto and the culture of the 5 nations, how it adds depth to the characters - it was all so awesome I love a power system where even a weak character can defeat a strong opponent through the use of strategy and wits, and Chakra is up there in terms of Shonen power systems alongside Nen from HxH and Spiritual Pressure from Bleach That's why it makes me so disappointed, how Kishimoto manages to power-creep his story at an exponential rate over the course of just 1 arc At least with series like DBZ, the power-creep was more gradual and thus was a little less noticeable Naruto jumped to God-ninja stuff over the span of the last 1/4 of one goddamn arc And now even the monsters like Naruto and Sasuke are simply being manhandled by guys like Isshiki
Naruto fell in the same trap as DBZ where the author came up with a quantifiable concept of power then threw it out of the window in favor of power creep. Pain arc Naruto didn't need more power given to him, his arsenal needed to be expanded, that's where the whole show went from brilliant to a good mediocre shonen. This is the same issue why Black Clover is falling so fast, you give a power goal at the start of the story and personify it as the wizard king, if that is reached and surpassed by the first 150 chapters then your show is going to die an early death and the author of that manga planned it for as long as One Piece, yea lol it's already at it's last leg.
I think Naruto vs Pain was the last good fight in the series. Every thing after was dumb and just some kind of animation flex. Like Madara was already ridiculous in strength. But then he gets stronger when he gets revived, and then stronger again when he gets his eyes, and then gets stronger again when he absorbs the 10 tails. It became less and less about strategy and more about insane power. Only anime I've seen handle power scales well was Hunter X Hunter where the ant king was the pinnacle but it made sense and he was killed off in a way that wasn't just one person was stronger than the other.
@@CloudTribe Yea the top for Naruto were the Kage who had a good excuse to avoid fighting by needing to be at the village 24/7. And then Madara drops and solos all of them 1v5 , that's where the whole show just spiraled out of orbit when he just flexed and erased a mountain. I still don't understand why he had to be stronger than all 5 of them, probably a miscalculation on Kishimoto's part when he tried to prove he was the strongest.
So you're full of shit then? Nothing about Naruto was getting more power and if you're telling me Naruto trying with the toads wasn't expanding his Arsenal then get out of my face
@@lontongtepungroti2777 what I don't get is why he needed to be the source of nagato's rinnegan? No only does it devalue the rinnegan and nagato by saying its just an upgrade of the sharingan, it also makes madara too op since now he has rinnegan on top of his mangekyo sharingan, and then no rinnegan alive madara is even stronger, then ten-tails 1 rinnegan madara is even stronger, then 2 rinnegan madara is even stronger, then rinne sharingan madara is even stronger. All of this makes the previous enemy, ten tails obito, look like nothing in comparison. A better progression would be edo madara (no rinnegan)
The with the power system is that it is contracted later on, like take affinity for example, one people is supposed to just master one element, that is what kakashi establish when teaching naruto, but well, before that we have kakashi himself that can just use all 5 natures, and sasuke, that has fire and lighting, but well you might respond to it saiyng that they are the exception, but in the war arc, shikamaru teaches the whole army earth style saiyng that jutsu was just so basic that anyone could learn, like bro wtf, make you mind you have affinity to one element or not.
and yet the sannin could casually summon their boss toads after an entire fight since part 1. Did you think Naruto would never get as strong as Jiraya or something?
@@TCSyndicate Well no it wasn't "casual". JIraya was completely exhausted (and failed his summon the first time he tried), Orochimaru had to proxy summon Manda via Kabuto, and Tsunade wasn't exactly mentally sound at the time. But let's say for arguments sake that they casually summoned their giant monsters. Even then, it took hand signs, actual effort. My point was never that characters got too strong, it was that they don't believably follow the rules of their world anymore, the rules that made the show stand out from DBZ.
@@nickeel8401 are u dumb. Jiraya and orochimaru had trouble because they were severely weakened beforehand. Jiraya was drugged to the point where he needed help to walk to be a sacrifice and Orochimaru had his jutsu sealed away. The only one who was at proper capacity was Tsunade, who casually summoned it *despite* being cut into pieces and expending tons of chakra before hand. The fact that they were able to summon under those conditions show just how easy it is for them. You actually think the legendary sannin have trouble summoning their bosses? Go rewatch the sannin in Jiraya's flashbacks before fighting pain. Naruto has always shown handseals situationally based on the speed and intensity of the fight. Every since part 1 handseals for substitution jutsus have been shown on and off depending on how fast and sneakily the user casted them. We never see Kakashi or Zabuza cast seals for clone jutsu. We never see Gaara cast seals for his sand sub against Lee. Itachi's seals are so fast we can't see them. And Jiraya casually summons gamabunta sized toads with no seals or markings in sight czcams.com/video/6lCm1XmW58Q/video.html .
@@TCSyndicate Why is it that when people are having a discussion on the internet they feel the need to regress to childish insults? All I'm saying is that all of the cool stuff in Naruto has been reduced down to "hit it with a bigger Rasengan".I can't speak for everyone but for me, I like Might Guy and Rock Lee over Naruto cus those two maintain to strict rules, even when they appear to be going plus ultra. Naruto however is literally ninja Jesus with essentially next to no limits, and might as well have no limits when compared to anyone else who doesn't have the name Otsutsuki or Uchiha.
@@nickeel8401do you think this is a bad thing? because im confused of what your point is. As to whether you believe its an objective truth that makes the series worse or that you are just being opinionated. Because i can tell you its not the former
10:33 This did not just "pop up on the spot". Kakashi talks about how elemental jutsu was Jonin level when he saw Sasuke use the fireball justsu in Part 1. It wasn't brought up after because Kakashi wasn't actually teaching the team anything until that point in Shippuden. This was not made up on the spot. 11:50 Ying and Yang chakra may have been named around chapter 500 but sever characters, like Shikamaru and Ino, were using jutsu that didn't fall into the normal application of chakra (ninjutsu, taijutsu, and genjutsu). So we knew there were more categories, they just didn't say the name. Mainly because we view the story through the eyes of Naruto and not characters using Yin and Yang chakra like Ino and Shikamaru. If it was from their perspective we would have learned the chakra types they were using sooner. That being said, this was also not made up on the spot. 12:50 You not paying attention when reading the series does not mean Kishimoto is clumbsy. Authors aren't gonna info dumb their entire power system in one chapter. He told you the basics of what you needed to know and showed you stuff that was outside of his explanation to show you that there's more to it. Which is what literally every one does.
@Wrath Incarnate Not really. Togashi does that, but not every author is Togashi. The school is just for the basics. They didn't even teach Chakra control. Everyone who learned it learned it at home or because they studied it on their own. That school didn't teach much now that I think of it. Knowing that the elemental jutsu is Jonin, it makes sense that it's not being taught to kids. In fact the only people we really see use it are Jonin, Haku, Sasuke, and the Kage until part 2. Unless I'm forgetting a character.
No, we never knew that were more categories of chakra, cause we never knew that chakra had categories. We knew that we had ELEMENTAL JUTSU but elemental NATURE'S for the chakra you're born with. You can clearly see that Yin Yang was named in chapter 500 and everything that didn't fit the 5 caegories was just shoved onto that so we could accept it easier. And that's something people get wrong about that scene, I'm reading the manga from chapter one and Kakashi NEVER said chakra nature was Jounin level, he simply TOUGHT to himself "A child shouldn't know wow to use that type of Jutsu". And after that, we had Kakashi teaching Sasuke to use lightning and until now we only knew that Sasuke could use fire, and the elements were more like just categories of jutsus, with everyone being able to use all of them but some had more afinity with one or the other. When Kakashi was teachng Sasuke to use lightning to attack, Chakra's nature should've been adressed. And Kishimoto IS clumsy, cause author tends to HIDE the fact they havend't invented all therules of their power systems yet. They don't simply shove them in and call it a day, they do it in a way that you can go back to the start of the series and give new meaning to old things like, as an example, Observation Haki in One Piece: In Skypiea, Enel, a villain had the ability to see everything that happened in his island and could predict your movements when being attacked, at that point in history, it was called Mantra and was just a power they had, years later when Oda finally decided that Haki was a power system he created the Observation Haki which gave you the ability to sense\see things from long distances and predict your opponents moves and then, Mantra became that and the explanation now is that it was called Mantra cause Skypiea has a different culture where they call it Mantra. Do you see the difference?Even if Haki was not a thing at that point in history, when it was implemented, old events were retconed in a way that you could perceive them as "Oh, so Haki actually existed since here and he was just hiding that from us, clever man you are mister Oda". In Naruto, when you reach the last chapter and go back, things simply turn confuse and senseless cause they were never implemented on that smooth way, like, for exmaple, Shuukaku and Kurama were created by the same guy and always kne each other but when Naruto transforms in Kurama in his fight against Gaara, Shuukaku acts as if he never knew what a 9 tailed fox was and as if they weren't created by the same person. Or like, when you have the chakra explanations and you think like "Well but, what about shikamaru? And Ino? Where they fit in? If you say there are ONLY those 5, where does Shadow goes?" and then years later you have a reminder of like "Oh yeah, it was just Yin and Yang, no explanations. Everything that doesn't fit the 5 categories is Yin and Yang, just accept it"
@Wrath Incarnate Temari was specifically held back so she could participate in the invasion as a participant. Also everything else you said just proves my point. Nobody used it, especially not the main character. The people who did didn't get training arcs from their perspective.
@Excelsior Naruto went there for a long ass time and didn't learn a single thing. Of the Konoha eleven all of them learned their skills and knowledge at home and from their family. Except Naruto, who had to learn on his own and on missions. The hundreds of other people at the school did what exactly? Not a fucking thing because that's what the school teaches you.
Man, I wish we could get see more of Kenjutsu, and espiecally the Samurai and how they use chakra, outside of that one moment when they show us, they are able to infuse chakra into weapons. A bit weak. A whole different culture got brushed off so fast. :/
chakra is so interesting because it already studied, master and well understood for thousands of years in india and i believe in other countries as well and naruto take it and make it more interesting
one huge issue i have is that chakra used to be balanced but then some people became super OP,at least in dragon ball,nothing stops a human from learning kaioken and becoming competitive with that saiyans even the tribeam (which though we only see tien use it,nothing stops others from using it) allowed tien to be pretty strong in the cell saga.
My biggest problem with the power system of Naruto is that mixing chakra elements into a new elemental Kekkei Genkai is genetic. Would be a lot more interesting to see characters train to mix them to create a variety of different elements. Really destroys the idea of the show where you can become stronger through hard work by having an idea so powerful being locked by genetics.
@@koi8613 i think they mentioned it is genetics There plenty of talented shinobi none of them were able to unlock it on it own Everyone who have it either stolen or was already Born in fammily line. But personally i would love the sharingan to just being advanced aplication of chakra on eyes.
I think Kishimoto was hesitant to get into the details of the power system but the strategic nature of the combat forced him to. Luckily, Naruto is a terrible student so anytime he gets stuff like chakra nature explained to him Kakashi or Sakura are all like "Dude, they taught you this in the academy."
It starts off amazing and well-thought. Ends up as a pile of nonsense that even Kishimoto doesn't care to understand. I personally think the strongest jutsu in Naruto should've been Amaterasu. That was the sweet spot and where it should've ended scaling up.
how is it a pile of nonsense? a jutsu like indara's arrow or lava release rasenshuriken makes perfect sense. I'd say something like the reaper death seal is alot harder of a concept to grasp
Two additionnal flaw you didn't really mention: Hands signs seem to become optional the further the series developped, whereas they seemed incredibly important early on, the first high power jutsu we see probably Zabuza's water dragon, and Kakashi had to copy a long ass sequence of handsigns, and it winds up being the longest (I think) in the entire show, when the power creep makes it a nearly inconsequential jutsu. Bit inconsistent there. Genjutsu: It's either vastly overpowered, or absolutely useless. We either have genjutsu that any story relevant character can dismiss, or genjutsu that no-one can. There's not much happening in between, genjutsu is too strong in it's effects and it boils down to either it works, or it doesn't (most of the time), and that's pretty bad design imo. Genjutsu winds up being dismissed as a plot-device and leaves Taijutsu and Ninjutsu to do all the heavy lifting in battle sequences. Edit: Oh third point that just came to mind: Chakra reserves. Jonins in the early days have absolutely nowhere near the amount of chakra available to them as most Chuunin do halfway into Shippuden, it's always presented in abstract terms and never quantified how much chakra any individual has, but it is a limitation that didn't find it's purpose later on in the series and loses any reference point from the early arcs. War Arc Kakashi must have 50x the chakra reserves Zabuza Arc Kakashi had.
It's established in part 1 that a powerful ninja can reduce the number of hand seals needed, as the series goes on the characters get stronger so they can reduce the number of hand seals used.
@@Resters52_official Which is a powercreep problem: Making jutsus overpower because everyone can make it fast and no one can stop it, making 99% of the fights be decided by who has the best jutsus and more chackra.
@@enzojose4001 I never said it wasn't, I was just saying that hand signs didn't become optional, they were just advancing towards the point we saw earlier in the series, that makes sense, as enemies become stronger the protagonists have to overcome them, therefore they get stronger as well, though this in itself is not powercreep, from what I understand powercreep is when the main main characters get stronger and leave everyone else behind (Like DBZ, the saiyan characters kept getting stronger and everyone else was sort of sidelined), the powercreep comes in near the end I think, where Naruto and Sasuke have six paths powers, giant chakra mechs, all the tailed beast's chakra/rinnegan respectively, and can probably destroy mountains pretty casually. Up until that point (to my knowledge) most of the rest of the cast can keep up, Hinata held her own against pain for a bit, Lee has his gates, Sakura can fuck up a landscape, Kiba has the three headed dog transformation and his techniques are pretty good generally, Shino's bugs are pretty powerful, Kakashi is Kakashi, Tea Asuma hold their own pretty well, especially Shikamaru, Guy even fucks up Madara, I haven't seen the entire series so I don't know how Neji did, Tenten got shafted but I'm not 100% sure she didn't start that way, cool ability though, and I can't remember anyone elses names.
@@enzojose4001 There's nothing necessarily wrong with "power creep". Despite all the asspulls that happen in the final arcs, strategy/creativity was apart of Naruto fights basically until the very end.
@@Gabe7Gal For me Power Creep ruined a good part of the story, all Naruto villains have become much less emblematic, Madara Six Paths basically has his butt kicked by any Boruto Character. And the entire Akatsuki has the ass kicked by the Edo Madara, and any member of Akatsuki destroys Zabuza. Kakuzu is said to have fought against the first Hokage, but thanks to Power Creep the guy became a joke. In this sense, I would like Naruto to be more like one piece, characters like Shanks or Mihawak that were presented early in the series, even 1000 chapters later, they are still monsters, they are legends, and are among the most powerful, even if they are overcome, and they will be, they will still remain among the most powerful, it is not as if Zoro was one-shot Mihawk at the end of the manga, or Luffy is so powerful to do the same with Shanks or with some of the Admirals. It would be interesting, if even after the end of the manga, and after Naruto becomes Hokage, if for some reason he had to fight Akatsuki again, Akatsuki would still be a threat to him, he would still win but would not be something he could do so easily. Currently you do not even need to make a discussion if Naruto would be able to wipe the floor with all Akatsuki.
Have you ready any of the Boruto Manga at all? The recent arc that we’re in is actually pretty good. It’s a time where chakra is old school and there’s more technology at play. Interested to see your take on the “Boruto” timeline if you ever feel like it.
To clarify it’s more Otsutsuki and chakra oriented than anything but technology still makes itself known in the series and how it attempts to almost replace the need for ninjutsu entirely.
@@CptnCobblestone Otsusutsuki was one of the things that ruined Naruto in the first place. Ninja aliens, dimensional travel, overpower jutsus and infinite chackra. Introduce new characters to explore other villages and countries in order to make a better world building? Nah, let's keep the old charactets and make them fight gods with their childrens.
I actually have three different views on the whole Naruto franchise. I miss Naruto part 1 for sure. Back when strategy was crucial and things were at high stake and actually felt more threatening than the whole war arc in shippuden. It was gritty and detailed oriented. Once I got used to Shippuden’s style it began to grow on me despite the constant power buffs and plot holes towards the end. I wouldn’t have minded if they had ended Naruto after the fight with Sasuke. Showing Naruto as Hokage. Period. The end. That would have been just fine for me. I personally didn’t care for Boruto himself or the newer generation. This brings me to my third viewpoint, Naruto continued. Even after Naruto becomes Hokage, I still would have liked him and Sasuke fighting side by side now as friends instead of enemies versus whatever comes their way, including otsutski. I feel like Kishi could have done a better job with their characters and purpose. I always was intrigued with their Castle in their dimension and where they came from. It sort of becomes this Goku and Vegeta sort of thing. Goku is a material arts master but also a universe champion in some respects. So I also could see a series like that go far with Naruto and Sasuke instead of it just being “Naruto”. Idk just some thoughts on it. Boruto is alright but we all know the main characters will forever rock.
I think the introduction of Senjutsu was handled well. Because it was such a rare skill and had a high difficulty learning curve, it made sense that no one would know about it and we would need an explanation.
Great analysis, it really is a great and interesting system overall that offers a ton of unique and very cool abilities. Many critics of the power system get too hung up on the Sharingan being too overpowered, but honestly the sharingan was so cool and added so much to the story that I don't mind that. I think your criticism in this video, that basic elements of the power system were unnaturally introduced way too late in the story, is a much more valid point.
The problem with the sharingan is that its progression of power does not seem natural. At first, it was a psychological power: you can read your opponent's movements and put them in genjutsu. Then, you can summon a giant chakra armor, izanami and izanagi (the most broken genjustsus of all time) and provide unique power (amaterasu and dimensional travel)
@@enzojose4001 Actually at first, Sharingan made you able to COPY your opponents moves and jutsus, THEN it became only reading your opponents movements and creating genjutsu and then became a "Do eveything you want". And fun fact, Kishimoto said that he abandoned the idea of Sharingan being able to copy people's jutsus cause he thought that would make Sharingan too overpowered for the series
i would argue that kekei genkai are a system flaw because of the thematic clashing the cause as soon as they are introduced. They are handled so poorly. These genetic advantages should feel special and contrast naruto's need to earn his strength. But instead they fell overused and that naruto having the 9 tails always compesates for the power they bring.
nigga huh? for every evolution of the sharingan naruto was either slightly behind or on par and that wasnt because of kurama. Not in a ill give you energy way anyway. naruto was fighting on his own for the most part. sasuke was given near everything he had in his arsenal, while naruto had to work with a tailed beast who was trying to kill him or make his life difficult. he literallyy did not want naruto learning sage mode and in turn made it harder for him to. kurama didnt start “helping” naruto until the damn war arc. kuruma hasnt “won” naruto that many if any at all fights until the later portions of the war arc
Yin/Yang wasn't introduced at one time in chapter 500, it was a mysterious concept that generated lots of discussion anticipation and theory-crafting over the course of shippuden. First there were yin release techniques as far back as part 1, such as Yin healing wound destruction. In part 2 it was mentioned by Yamato and Kakashi but not explained to keep it simple for Naruto ( this was for the readers to start thinking ). Then Jiraya mentioned that Nagato had mastered all *6* changes in chakra nature ( another reminder of yin/yang ). Then Danzo brought out the Izanagi, which gave us our first look at how yin/yang gets to the fundamental nature of magic in the verse and just how powerful it is. I also don't agree with the idea that the fundamentals of the system has to be revealed early. The journey in Naruto is mostly learning more about the fundamentals of the world as you go through it. Just as we go deeper and further back into the history of the shinobi world, we go deeper and further back into the nature of chakra. It makes sense because if you really understand a system, there's no more mystery. If your system has a complete explanation you've just lost something for viewers to be interested in.
11:00 Elemental chakra was introduced in the very first arc. When they fought Haku, Sasuke thought his fire would melt the ice mirrors, and it failed, because Ice element is a combination of elements one of which fire is weak to. Element was already mentioned and in place right from the beginning. Why would it be necessary to explain it sooner when a better place to learn about it would be when Naruto learns about it?
Because it's a bad world-building. If you are a soldier in a world where people can summon fireballs and control the elements, anyone with two brain cells would want to know how it works and learn as quickly as possible. In hunter x hunter, for example, nen is a secret that only hunters and government officials know exists. However, when Gon and Killua learn about the existence of the nen, they do everything possible to learn everything about it, since their survival depends on it.
I gotta say I disagree with you when you said "I don't believe he was inventing it along" and from the amount of Retcons, massive worlbuilding problemns that seems little we can see since the beginning of the series, the fact that Kishimoto himself said that, when he was on the Naruto VS Gaara fight he still didn't knew where tot ake the story, and only knew that he wanted Sasuke and Naruto to fight at the end, the amount of moments where he does something just because he likes it irl, like the Gaara VS Naruto being a Kaijuu fight cause he loves Godzilla and wanted to put it in his show. And I say this cause, as a writter myself, I do those kinda things! I create the begning, the end but I never work right on the middle, so it feels always like a race to get to the interesting part about the end, while letting the middle parte be messy as hell, cause in the major points, like Naruto VS Pain or Sasuke VS Itachi he does very well, but in the middle, in the progression for those amazing moments, is always choppy and bad executed. I'll do this in the future on my channel, where I'll go trough every arc of Naruto analyzing everything, picking aparte very plot hole, every error in wordbuilding and every Retcon just to see how much of them have and how much of a mess Naruto actually is, how much emotional manipulation the series use to grasp our attentions and everything, not to say that Naruto is bad, is actually in the middle, like, is not a good work, but it's not bad either, is just like... Middle, normal, full of flaws but with cool things to aprecciate (Sorry for any writing error, english is no my first language)
@@thabokgwele5268 Yeah, like, if you watch just to see battles and nija stuff and to remember nostalgia, just like I do, you can really enjoy, but if you try to think about anything, for just 1 second, the series crumbles entirely
Thabo Kgwele too bad, it is and has cemented itself as such. Sounds like you guys are just “tired” of it Becusse you’ve grown up with it and now you think you’ve gotten into bigger and better things so trashing naruto is the cool thing to do 😂
@@daelanbro Well, actually no o.O As I said, I LIKE Naruto a lot! And yeah, it has cemented utself as masterpiece cause everyone watched as kids when they didn't have OBJECTIVE capacity of criticism so they cried easily. Unfortunatley, NO, Naruto isn't a masterpiece, but I'm not complaining or saying people are wrong for liking it. You can like everything you want, but be comscious tgat YOU liking it, doesn't actually mean it's good. Naruto has A LOT os writing problems, and everyone that know a little about writing can sre that
@@daelanbro And actually,have grown up with Naruto is what makes so many prople thibk it's cool cause they attach memories and nostalgia to it, instead of like, paying attention to what's really hapoening and they always talk about the themes it has but Never talk about the EXECUTION of them, cause it doesn't matter if you have the best themes in the world, if you don't execute them properly
I’m glad you mentioned the Yin Yang release thing because I remember watching the show as it aired and I was so lost on what they were and why I had never heard of it but now it’s like a BIG thing when someone has it. I honestly thought I missed something lol.
I've always considered Chakra a middle magic system in how it was implemented. It definitely has categories of a hard magic system where it is predictable and consistent. But I argue as the series went on, it lost a lot of that. One of my biggest frustrations with Kishimoto was his overeliance on eye-techniques and Kekkei Genkai. Specifically, the Uchiha clan. The Sharingan already was a really powerful ability with some good drawbacks. But Kishimoto made the fatal flaw of just arbitrarily adding on more and more powers. Brandon Sanderson in his rules of magic makes it clear that whenever expanding a magic system, you should go inwards and focus on existing elements as opposed to introducing newer abilities tied to it. So for example in the book Mistborn(his book), the magic system is metals. The user consumes metals in liquid and burns them. Tin is a metal that enhances senses and burns the less. In the final book, there is a character who learns that they can actively keep Tin burning for such an extended time that their senses can be permanently altered for the best. Keep in mind, this is an EXISTING ability but it is taken to its zenith. It isn't stacking on new powers arbitrarily, cough Izanami. But to be fair, a lot of Jump titles tend to do this.
Stamina is a component of chakra. Stamina plus spiritual energy = chakra. Its why when naruto was training his nature, even though he was basically just standing around afterwards he was super drained.
it's explained in great detail in chapter 90 page 4-6. Naruto's a big story, lots of confusion comes from the fact that most readers just don't know it.
I really like the additions of Shippuden but like you said, the placement felt weird. I will always think that if we ever got some like Naruto KaiBrotherhood where Jump just have us a complete top to bottom retelling of Naruto with all the hindsight and everything. Naruto would be super tight. Like, the ideas are all great, but the execution left a lot to be desired.
I think kishimoto introduced things and explained them at a fine time. We learn this stuff as naruto learns it. He is a big dumb ass who from the very beginning had issues with controlling chakra. Naruto learned chakra as a genin rather than academy. He skipped out on that lol. Chakra being a softer magic system became a bit nebulous in shippiden . That is something I can agree with as people’s chakra levels and the abilities tossed out became bigger and bigger. Chidori took so much chakra that Kakashi could use four shots before being empty. Late game shippuden was just kamui spam and chidori spam.
@Wrath Incarnate Sasuke probably does understand the concept of nature change. Sasuke already was doing firestyle jutsus that surprised Kakashi. Sasukes true utilization as a dueteragonist wasnt until he offed Orochimaru
chakra is basically magic where other magic users call it mana or ether or magoi etc it's still the same life energy used to create the magic that is drawn from one's self and the world around them thou naruto tries to be more specific like saying chakra is spiritual and physical energy combine and is more precise with how chakra flows around the body in coils/pipes. other series have energy pools up and flow in different areas. and naruto most ninja focus on using personal energy until they learn sage mode to perform their magical abilities. others the users naturally use their personal energy with the energy around them to perform magic where to control the natural energies or absorb them to perform powerful spells and restore strength which would be called channelers.
It’s ironic that the people who “hate” narutos ending comes from an age where everyone bitched about it in youtube around 2012-2015 meanwhile I know someone who didn’t experience naruto with the anime community and the hail the 4th great ninja war as one of the best arcs in naruto. People who bitch about narutos ending act like the whole war was bad when in fact they just didn’t like kaguya. It’s not nearly as bad as you guys make it out to be at ALL.
Well... I mean this is going to sound bad but.... The war arc and Kaguya are very culturally specific. Her appearance and her being the source of chakra as the moon princess actually makes a lot of sense, but if you don't know the legends and culturally integral images, it just feels hollow. Oceanis mentions this when he speaks of the breach between ninshu and ninjutsu. He's right when speaks about how late certain things come up, but it doesn't take away my enjoyment of the war arc. I liked it, but I waited for the arc to be over and read it as a whole.
Ever heard of a soft and hard magic systems? Soft magic is when magic can do anything (e.g end of shippuden or lord of the rings) while hard magic are set in stone system(e.g avatar the last air bender) then there’s some in between and their extremes (e.g fma extremes to soft while fmab extremes to hard)
Can't be kenjutsu because the samurai used it in shippuden. Karma as a concept is just the curse mark and Biju combined so its not really a new system. Maybe the scientific ninja tool but that's basically like the weapons scroll but more compact. Its basically what Jiariya did to itachi's amaterasu in part one.
I feel like the reason because the information comes so late is cause naruto is just learning it or that all of it at once would be too boring at the beginning
rolay 7 Most of the new generation’s new jutsu are starting out grounded closer to part 1 from Boruto creating the Boruto stream to Konohamuru creating a new sealing jutsu. Even the jogan and karma have abilities outside of their general strength and speed boost that keeps them interesting.
It holds to the fundamentals? I mean dude, Boruto as a pre-teen is somehow able to add chakra nature to a rasengan without clones or any type of hax. The fact that he was even able to completely master the base rasengan is already a huge stretch, as naruto wasn't able to create a rasengan without hax until the freaking war arc. But full on wind and lighting release too??? Naruto had to use 3 fuckin clones to do it until the war arc and even then he never mastered it without using hax until AFTER the the series ended. Not to mention that people like Minato and Kakashi, some of the most talented characters in the series, were never able to add chakra nature to the rasengan whatsoever. So yeah, I wouldn't say that the Boruto series is super great at aligning with the original series.
@@Gabe7Gal the vanishing rasengan was created on accident just like the chidori. The Boruto’s vanishing rasengan and wind style are both incomplete. Boruto has had a better understanding of chakra natures than Naruto did early on. Minato just died before he could experiment more with the rasengan, besides he did the hardest part by creating the jutsu in the first place. Boruto being skilled and having a more beneficial academy experience doesn’t take away from the power system.
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I lowkey think Kishimoto just realised "oh shit i haven't talked about elemental chakra yet" - mid shipudden
That's exactly what happened HAHAHA Kishimoto always said in some points of the story that he didn't knew where he wanted to take the history :v He WAS inventing everything along the way. An that in tself is not a proble, cause Naruto is a character driven history, where the wordbuilding is less important than the character journey, BUT, when your worldbuilding doesn't tie correctly, and contradicts even the journey your character needs to go, then it becomes a problem
Literally lol that was shit they should of learned in the academy
What do you mean? Theres been elemental chakra since Sasuke first used Fire style. Then everyone’s been using Wind, water, earth etc.
Naruto just didn’t learn it til Shippuden because he sucks at learning.
Rushking20 #Cheesehead Academy students don’t learn elemental jutsu. Just the basics.
There’s a reason why Kakashi state’s in episode fucking 5 that GENIN SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO USE FIRE JUTSU?!?!
@@Binks129 That's a common mistake people make, NO, we had elemental JUTSU! We have people using jutsu that were elemental based but we were NEVER thought or even hinted that everyone has an specific element for their chakra when tey're born. I'm reading the manga from the begning right now and we have only a moment where Kakashi thinks "Elemental jutsu comes later" and "A genin shouldn't learn how to do Katon". We were only showed that yes, people can use jutsu who have elements but it was much more like "These are techniques any ninja can learn, from any element but come nnja will be better at an element than other", and then, only in shippuden we were thought that people are BORN with an element attached to their chakra
The rest of the cast: *You have to control your chakra expenditure to not completely empty yourself and die*
Naruto: *laughs in Kyuubi the Nine-Tailed Fox*
And the Uzumaki clan having a large amount of chakra to begin with.
So naruto had an unfair advantage from the start making the entire theme of hard work beating everything even more meaningless!
@@lohengramm6969 literally every character has clan traits, shikamaru has his shadows, shino has his bugs, neji has his byakugan, haku has his ice, and naruto has his chakra.
Not Important - except that’s clearly the point Naruto tried to make against Neji in the hunter exam.
@@RedMan-vf3ck shikamarus and shino don't have kekkai genkai they have techniques invented by thier clan,
@@lohengramm6969 yeah there was never any point to naruto having more chakra than he already had.
The rules and limits of chakra just seemed to matter less in Shippuden.
The goddamn ocular powers
Haha tailed beast bomb machine gun go **BRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRRBR**
@Vipsnap Lol that's that meme
I always thought if those techniques still applied to the established rules, like using a tailed beast bomb requires immense concentration and could cause immediate strain on the body after its usage, it might have helped the series.
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I can't believe Buddhism ripped off Naruto lol
Your going to hell for being Disrespectful to the Buddha
@@majinmyron936 That is not how it works.
@@joelsasmad Thank Buddha
@@majinmyron936 They were joking, dude, relax.
@@b9morion hH
"Taijutsu is hitting someone in the face, genjutsu is making someone believe they were hit in the face, and ninjutsu is throwing a fireball at them."
That is quite possibly the greatest analogy to explain the completely broken power system of Naruto. XD
The system is not broken, it’s separated out and explained in stages because it’s extremely complex.
@Pixel Smile uP
I expected him to say "and ninjutsu is throwing a fireball on their face" haha.
How tf is it broken?
@@RoundShades537
Outside of a few specialists, Taijutsu and Genjutsu fell way behind in what you can do with it
Hey man, don't ever feel awkward about distances and arbitrary deadlines between videos. Just make something you enjoy that you're passionate about. We'll be here regardless
I do enjoy the power system series though, I'm glad its back!
Lara Tonkin Agreed!
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I think a deep dive into bending from Avatar the last airbender could be really interesting although that series is discussed quite a lot already.
Also I'm not counting the korra explanation of its origin.
I think in the MHA power system vid he talked about the bending power system for a bit. He compared both of them and how their similar so maybe that vid might help?
And Naruto isn't discussed quite a lot?
@@oryyyyx3129 yeahh that origin explanation was really unnecessary. I mean the mystery behind bending and avatar and spitual realm is really good to be left just the way it is as it give the sense of avatar as the higher being or embodiment(avatar) of god within that world. After they explain it with a detailed story of avatar wan it kinda take away those divinity the avatar has.
the little prince nah, they did an amazing job with Wan’s story and origin of bending/avatar
I still miss handsigns mans. Shit was so cool.
Now they just shoot it out of there hands and ass like bruh why...
@Excelsior Man, you're not wrong. And the fact that we even get to see each sign they made. Nowadays it's like dudes are just spitting faster than Eminem and Busta Rhymes in goddamn sign language. And that's even if they are using handsigns which is rare.
@Excelsior uP
@Haku infinite You might be fine with the series dumbing it down to big blow up jutsu nukes but I still say it does a massive disservice to what came before. Handsigns lost it's appeal abd uniqueness when the biggest and best jutsu around don't need them.
@@GaryJojo I think it would get boring after a while it's cool when you first see it, but could you imagine if they always stopped and weaved a shit ton of hand seals mid-fight? it's just impractical, it's like a bow vs a crossbow, they could be equal in power but a bow, while it takes more strength (skill in the case of hand signs) to draw it can be used faster, a crossbow has to be wound back up after being fired, a crossbow can be used by anyone but it takes longer between shots.
Yeah, I completely agree about the "details" coming to light later. It felt like he was making up rules as he was going along to justify the direction Kishimoto wanted to take, tbh. And then sometimes just doesn't justify anything, like "TRADING EYEBALLS"
In Naruto, you remove someone's eyes like a goddamn light bulb😂
@Wrath Incarnate and nejis entire curse seal that deletes his eyes lol zabuza and Haku explained the shit from the beginning... not to mention KAKASHI
Like when Kishimoto established that Obito couldn't use kamui when he had the Juuubi sealed inside him several chapters later Madara is a Juubi jinchuriki and is able to use kamui after stealing Obito's sharingan from kakashii with no explanation for the inconsistency
The Transplant with Sasukes eyes with Itachi's took days if not weeks to recover but by the war arc they were getting slapped into peoples heads like they were getting ear piercings.
@@CloudTribe Kakashi used obitos eye the same hour lol
"Boruto doesn't exist to me, and it shouldn't to you either."
Me: *"I like this guy."*
One of the best mangas out there
Hand signs were definitely among the best elements of the series. In particular, I loved how they were revisited/addressed in Shippuden during Sasuke vs Deidara. That was cool lol.
Thabo Kgwele nothing lol about this comment
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how hand signs became vastly more unimportant as the series goes on.
They didn’t become vastly unimportant as a ninja grows hand signs aren’t needed as much. Think about them as training wheels in order to prep one for jutsu. After a point with the mastery sage mode and everything else hand signs wasn’t really needed he could form and concentrate chakra on his own without the training wheels.
fierce D was this ever stated in the manga because I don’t remember this being said? Or are we just supposed to ‘infer’ this? Genuine question. If it wasn’t stated I always felt like there was less emphasis on hand signs because the novelty of them wore off and for whatever reason Kishimoto just didn’t want to continue the trend? Maybe he got bored himself? Idk
Lalrivunga Hnamte while I do like the idea, but I always interrupted that line as, those roles of kages were so revered to the point of worship, so they had the mentally of “of course someone said to be so amazing can do something we can’t “
I wouldn’t say that. Lots of characters still use hand signs. Madara used a decent amount of them and the only way to stop the Reanimation was the learn the hand signs. Naruto and Sasuke also had to use a hand sign to undo the Infinite Tsukiyomi and you have stuff like Obito and Sasuke using other people’s hands to do hand signs. I think it’s less that it became unimportant and more that it became a standard rather than something new. After 100s of chapters, I doubt anyone wants to see characters slowly doing 40+ hand signs while chanting the names of each sign.
flameheadshero thats exactly what I mean haha it just was red focused on as much as the shippuden half went on! Like I assume the characters still used hand signs but it just wasn’t always shown because we got the gist of it
Chakra nature's was the same as the word "jinchuuriki" it was Introduced. Then all the sudden EVERYONE knew of the word.
Unless I remember wrong, weren’t people saying things like “Fire Style” and “Water Style” from the very beginning?
@@flameheadshero yes. But to clarify. It wasn't stated, one could only master or have affinity for certain types, and certain styles being the counter of another.
Then after this Intro (during narutos rasenshuriken training arc) when "Chakra Nature's" is name dropped. Literally every battle after becomes "my nature counters yours, WHAT CHANGE IN CHAKRA NATURE IS THIS!?!?"
This is Oceaniz arguement as it should've been stated at the beginning. Or as you put its things we've known about for a while.
same with the word jinchuuriki. Its name dropped by Chiyo, then the entire world just all the sudden knows and uses it.
Yes Lmao
Kishimoto became the Retcon Man
@@cubedone199
There was no real reason to bring up "jinchurikis" in part 1.
Chakra natures.....aye, that still makes me shake my head. I still can't believe Naruto learned that so late into the game.
@@oceanplanet8160 na it woulda been dropped by Itachi or kisame when they met up with jiraiya. Same with Gaara. Plenty of opportunities. But wasn't anything yet.
And also yes!! SMDH how after yrs with jiraiya he a NEVER mentioned to our favorite yellow haired dummy what a chakra nature is!? It didn't come up once!?? Haha 😂😤
Yeah that moment where Hiruzen the professor and god of shinobi, forgets all about elemental advantages and counters all the elements from the giant statue with the exact same element, instead of an advantagous one is really cringey. Like even if the elemental stuff had not been introduced countering fire with water feels so intuitive.
İnsan nah ohnoki was putting in work with his old ass I find it hard to believe the third couldn’t beat 2 severely nerfed hokage
@@SlickSkuddy but he did beat them. He sealed them both away
@Excelsior That does not make him dumber, he could have been been more effective while using exactly the same amount of power he did use in that scene
The Symphomaniac he died in the process and him being old isn’t an excuse because ohnoki was still on the battlefield field putting in work
I don't even know what counters what.
You ain't lying there that kakashi zabuza hand sign scene was GOATTTT
And good point there I never noticed how the spread of chakra kinda ties into some of the themes of the show
And, if you pay attention to the fights (and I encourage you to), specially later on, the flashbacks happen when the characters "connect their chakras", AKA beat the shit out of each other with Chakra. That's why we have the famous conversations in another plane after Naruto and Sasuke connect a Rasengan with a Chidori, and everything about Obito flashbacks, because that's the purpose of Chakra, to connect humans.
@@VersusThem very interesting I actually was gonna post something relating to this on twitter, it was also weird how naruto and sasuke were able to talk to eachother in a mental plane
Chakra: You always have as much as the plot requires you to have.
I always thought of Chakra systems as a Meta-nervous system they could use to generate energy in specific ways. Which is why I always wondered if some could use real life neurology statistics to hypothesize more.
people where actually doing hand signs
that just very funny
After watching this, I'm curious to see what you'd think of the Bleach power system if/when you get around to reading/watching it
Same! I think the Bleach power system is underrated. It is interlinked to beliefs and emotions, with Shinto beliefs being at its centre. I love that system~!
The goat 😫
Oh so you mean the “My name is Ichigo so I am descended from every power type in the series” Power System?
Ryon Reyne Yeah, because all of them thematically fit into him. He didn’t just unlock everything in the beginning. It’s unjustly hated too much until hating on it became a joke that makes you the ‘cool guy’. Hopefully, debunking the hate will become a trend instead.
Witch power system there are like 8
10:10 As you said, it feels off because it would be the equivalent of Togashi waiting until the Kimera Ants Arc to finally reveal that there are 6 different types of Hatsu. And unlike the complexity of Nen, it feels all the more like a Kishimoto a$$ pull because it has close to no application in the rest of the series. To continue with the shaky comparisons, it would be the equivalent of Game Freak spending 3 hours explaining to you the power types system only for it to have close to no application in Pokemon.
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Bruh fr I’m pretty sure it got revealed before that
Not every power system has to be nuisanced and complex. Some people are naturally more gifted than others and can just do shit
@@Jay_SGE Well I agree with you but we at least need to have some rules. In Fairy Tail, for example, you basically never know the rules of magic itself but every magic has some type of flaw: Natsu needs to eat fire to power up, Gray's Ice depends on his imagination, Lucy's ability to summon spirits depends on her stamina, even without a complex explanation, you can figure out things and you know when tey're at their limit. In Naruto it kinda started that way but with a big problem: We had people using elemental jutsu withtout any explanation about Chakra natures. Yes we had an explanation of what chakra is, but we never knew that people were born with certain element in their chakra already, and even when this was a thing, we still had a lot of people with Jutsu that never fit on the 5 categories, people using multipe natures at the sime time, even though this was something to be called rare, we had some interaction between them but never made sense, like Raiton being stronger then Doton, but Lightning is useless agains earth. And yeah, there are some people who was just naturaly gifted and can do shit but Naruto never presented itself as a series like that! Fairy Tail was a series where you could use this argument cause it always presented itself as a soft magic system story, but Naruto always presented itself as a magic system with rules, nuances and complexity so it suddenly trasforming into a soft magic system where everyone can basically do everything is a problem and a very desastrous one
Oda is the Foreshadow man.
Togashi is the Exposition man.
Kishimoto is the Retcon man.
Akira is the Forgetful man.
@@blacksmoke6292 I think it's Araki not Akira, if I'm not mistaken.
@@scaramri782 Akira forgets things too and...I'm not much of a Jojo fan to think about Araki.
@@blacksmoke6292 I don't have a problem if you are not a JoJo fan but Akira is the name of a manga that was serialised in 1982. So people might get confused. And talking about JoJo, the Araki Forgot thing has been debunked. Its merely used as meme for fun. Some of the genuine Araki Forgot moments are just plot holes in general.
@@scaramri782 The Akira I was talking about was Akira Toriyama, DBZ creator, lol.
0:20-0:30 is a fucking mooood
Of course Kishimoto was making most of it up as he went. He was a weekly serialized manga artist, the time commitment that demands is unbelievable. He even said that was what he was doing in an interview.
Yes, that's what basically every writter do, but the best writter's will make those made up thngs seem natural to the story or appear as if they were always there. Like Haki in One PIece or the Fullbring in Bleach, Oda and Kubo didn't had those ideas by the start of the series, but when they finally did, they introduced in a way where you can go back to the start of the series and understand things like Shanks scaring a sea monster with only his presence as King's Haki and Enel predicting your moves as Observation Haki, and in Bleach you have Chad telling to someone that he feels his powers are closer to those of a Hollow, which in the moment seemed like "Oh yea, okay, is not importante" but when you have the Fullbrings, it was trasnformed into a foreshadowing, cause you don't want your audience to know you havent't figured out how's your story's gonna follow, and Kishimoto never did that properly. He introduced us to one explanation, and then tossed it aside, he showed us some power and said it was high level and months later you see a guy invoking a meteor. And yeah, even Oda said that he doesn't know how he's going to defeat Kaido since he built him up as undefeatable, just Like Kishimoto didi with Madara, but Kishimoto simply shoved some new bigger villain which no matter how many times you come back to the manga, seems foreshadowed or plausible to end the story. When you don't make things seem to fit in your own story is where the problem lays
It may be, but then we can see oda who didn't really plan the sichibukai or the supernovas and can integrate them perfectly
@Excelsior No, Oda really haven't planed the Shichibukai haha But when he tought about implementing them in the story, he took his time and care to implement them in a good and logical way
@@vcamv2354 To be fair, Haki has it's flaws too. Like apparently Crocodile, one of the greatest pirates in the world who even fought Whitebeard, doesn't know what Haki is.
@@vanjagalovic3621 What? Like... When it happened? Cause, when he fought Luffy he didn't needed Haki, and haki was also not invented yet, so it makes sense he doesn't mention it. And the next times he appears, Haki is not mentioned at all, but you can't say he doesn't know what it is just cause he doesn't mentions it
nen: hold my aura
Chakra:: One rule, it has a limit! You don't know it, but it does! Also, I can break that rule whenever.
I think chakra is so incredibly fuckin underrated
Don't worry pops, the only thing I even acknowledge about Boruto is that his dad is really cool
While true, you have to admit fights are really good. Like Naruto and Sasuke vs Momoshiki
@@andresousa101 it's the best fight in boruto according to basically everyonr
There are a lot of other fight's in the series. Boruto vs Kokou
, Jugo vs Konohomaru. Sarada vs Butan honestly there really great its not dragged down by constant flashbacks and excessive dialogue its to the point. At this point the Boruto hate is a big meme.
we can all admit that while the manga may be good, it’s still gonna be memed about
@@demonking-zm3rs i think it's more that most people don't have time for anything Naruto-related anymore. The story's done, and its length is alr enough to cement itself as the past Big Three.
Honestly, without memeing, Boruto trying to pick up where Naruto left off is kind of a mistake if what they're trying to do is appeal to the same fanbase. Series exhaustion is a thing after all. Look at what happened to Pirates of the Carribean. So rly, while I'm at best neutral about Boruto, I think it existing is categorically not a good decision.
I'm still Hoping that this Series Manga and Anime had a Little bit Remake
My big issues with jutsu and chakra: At the start of the series it was pretty emphasized that you can't just expect to keep slinging jutsu's out an entire fight since A: the opponent will be actively trying to stop you so you wont have time to constantly be doing hand signs, and B: you will have a limited amount of chakra. These issues pretty much vanish, any character just stands there throwing out hand signs and every one else just lets them, and the "running out of chakra" bit just feels randomly thrown in to make a situation tense. Like sasuke vs deidara, sasuke has little to no chakra, but manages to dig up enough to summon manda, use genjutsu to control him, and escape.
Also ninja tools are extremely useless through out most of the series, only really used to make fight scenes look cool
Firstly: It was only a problem when it actually took them time to use handsigns, they just got better. Just like it was such a big deal to learn how to walk on water at first. About chakra running out, what I said earlier also applies, they got more chakra reserves as they got better, but also, it definitely does come up, a LOT. sure they weren't burning through all their chakra in one small fight, it's just not that limited, but in very long fights it comes up a lot near the end of it, or when they have a lot of consecutive fights. First example that comes to mind but there are a lot more: czcams.com/video/8TeGjtlmM_I/video.html
Secondly, even at the beginning, Sasuke had a pretty good amount of chakra; naruto just had so much more, but after him getting his curse mark and his intense training with Orochimaru AND LITERALLY OROCHIMARU"S CHAKRA, he got A LOT more than Deidara.
Thirdly, did you forget about Sasuke's chidori blade? You know, that one ninja tool he used from the beginning of Shippuden, all the way to his "finale form"?
@@yuvalamir3226 Well, the point about the hand signs, yes, you could say they got better at it, but because of that the opponents simply stopped trying? Like, the only moment you can see someone trying to stop the opponent from completing a hand sign was the final Sasuke VS Naruto where he stopped all his hand signs to complete his own Jutsu, so, why never before? Even if you can do 100 hand signs in a second, your opponent should try to stop you. And the chakra thing was a problem cause first, Chakra was an energy of your body that tires you, that you need to build up inside you and canalize trough hand signs, but then, you could simply spam every move you want, not build up your chakra and go living your life. And we say about the "long fights" but they are only that long in the anime, if you look at the manga, from where the information really comes, battles are much faster, and that's the problem, when in EVERY FIGHT you have characters getting tired and then exploding with chakra cause they have a lot so they never run out, takes you away from the danger and belivability cause you know he will never be in a state where he can't make a jutsu or has to be logical to run away or survive, they can simply attack and attack and attack with almost no strategy cause they never run out of chakra, so they're never in true danger
@Excelsior
It isn't. He was already exhausted until Kurama shared chakra with him, which was the basis for Naruto sharing chakra with everyone.
It's honestly so irritating
In terms of how Chakra as a power system forces the story's characters to fight each other in clever and deceitful ways full of tactics (at least until the War arc in Shippuden), how it was originally such a unique, complex, tightly-knit and brilliant system with intricate limitations placed on it so as to not have characters going crazy with its powers, how it was ingrained into the actual world of Naruto and the culture of the 5 nations, how it adds depth to the characters - it was all so awesome
I love a power system where even a weak character can defeat a strong opponent through the use of strategy and wits, and Chakra is up there in terms of Shonen power systems alongside Nen from HxH and Spiritual Pressure from Bleach
That's why it makes me so disappointed, how Kishimoto manages to power-creep his story at an exponential rate over the course of just 1 arc
At least with series like DBZ, the power-creep was more gradual and thus was a little less noticeable
Naruto jumped to God-ninja stuff over the span of the last 1/4 of one goddamn arc
And now even the monsters like Naruto and Sasuke are simply being manhandled by guys like Isshiki
Naruto fell in the same trap as DBZ where the author came up with a quantifiable concept of power then threw it out of the window in favor of power creep. Pain arc Naruto didn't need more power given to him, his arsenal needed to be expanded, that's where the whole show went from brilliant to a good mediocre shonen. This is the same issue why Black Clover is falling so fast, you give a power goal at the start of the story and personify it as the wizard king, if that is reached and surpassed by the first 150 chapters then your show is going to die an early death and the author of that manga planned it for as long as One Piece, yea lol it's already at it's last leg.
I think Naruto vs Pain was the last good fight in the series. Every thing after was dumb and just some kind of animation flex. Like Madara was already ridiculous in strength. But then he gets stronger when he gets revived, and then stronger again when he gets his eyes, and then gets stronger again when he absorbs the 10 tails. It became less and less about strategy and more about insane power.
Only anime I've seen handle power scales well was Hunter X Hunter where the ant king was the pinnacle but it made sense and he was killed off in a way that wasn't just one person was stronger than the other.
@@CloudTribe Yea the top for Naruto were the Kage who had a good excuse to avoid fighting by needing to be at the village 24/7.
And then Madara drops and solos all of them 1v5 , that's where the whole show just spiraled out of orbit when he just flexed and erased a mountain. I still don't understand why he had to be stronger than all 5 of them, probably a miscalculation on Kishimoto's part when he tried to prove he was the strongest.
So you're full of shit then?
Nothing about Naruto was getting more power and if you're telling me Naruto trying with the toads wasn't expanding his Arsenal then get out of my face
@@CloudTribe And after all of that exponential power up, he died by just 1 hit by black zetsu and only to be replaced by kaguya
@@lontongtepungroti2777 what I don't get is why he needed to be the source of nagato's rinnegan? No only does it devalue the rinnegan and nagato by saying its just an upgrade of the sharingan, it also makes madara too op since now he has rinnegan on top of his mangekyo sharingan, and then no rinnegan alive madara is even stronger, then ten-tails 1 rinnegan madara is even stronger, then 2 rinnegan madara is even stronger, then rinne sharingan madara is even stronger.
All of this makes the previous enemy, ten tails obito, look like nothing in comparison. A better progression would be edo madara (no rinnegan)
A lot of chakra system is a retcon.
“Ending heavily disappointed me” *puts Kaguya* LOLOLOL SAMMEE
The with the power system is that it is contracted later on, like take affinity for example, one people is supposed to just master one element, that is what kakashi establish when teaching naruto, but well, before that we have kakashi himself that can just use all 5 natures, and sasuke, that has fire and lighting, but well you might respond to it saiyng that they are the exception, but in the war arc, shikamaru teaches the whole army earth style saiyng that jutsu was just so basic that anyone could learn, like bro wtf, make you mind you have affinity to one element or not.
Remember when Kakashi could only use chidori 4 times a day? Or how it took all of Naruto’s chakra to summon Gamabunta? Yea me neither
and yet the sannin could casually summon their boss toads after an entire fight since part 1. Did you think Naruto would never get as strong as Jiraya or something?
@@TCSyndicate Well no it wasn't "casual". JIraya was completely exhausted (and failed his summon the first time he tried), Orochimaru had to proxy summon Manda via Kabuto, and Tsunade wasn't exactly mentally sound at the time. But let's say for arguments sake that they casually summoned their giant monsters. Even then, it took hand signs, actual effort. My point was never that characters got too strong, it was that they don't believably follow the rules of their world anymore, the rules that made the show stand out from DBZ.
@@nickeel8401 are u dumb. Jiraya and orochimaru had trouble because they were severely weakened beforehand. Jiraya was drugged to the point where he needed help to walk to be a sacrifice and Orochimaru had his jutsu sealed away. The only one who was at proper capacity was Tsunade, who casually summoned it *despite* being cut into pieces and expending tons of chakra before hand. The fact that they were able to summon under those conditions show just how easy it is for them. You actually think the legendary sannin have trouble summoning their bosses? Go rewatch the sannin in Jiraya's flashbacks before fighting pain.
Naruto has always shown handseals situationally based on the speed and intensity of the fight. Every since part 1 handseals for substitution jutsus have been shown on and off depending on how fast and sneakily the user casted them. We never see Kakashi or Zabuza cast seals for clone jutsu. We never see Gaara cast seals for his sand sub against Lee. Itachi's seals are so fast we can't see them. And Jiraya casually summons gamabunta sized toads with no seals or markings in sight czcams.com/video/6lCm1XmW58Q/video.html .
@@TCSyndicate Why is it that when people are having a discussion on the internet they feel the need to regress to childish insults? All I'm saying is that all of the cool stuff in Naruto has been reduced down to "hit it with a bigger Rasengan".I can't speak for everyone but for me, I like Might Guy and Rock Lee over Naruto cus those two maintain to strict rules, even when they appear to be going plus ultra. Naruto however is literally ninja Jesus with essentially next to no limits, and might as well have no limits when compared to anyone else who doesn't have the name Otsutsuki or Uchiha.
@@nickeel8401do you think this is a bad thing? because im confused of what your point is. As to whether you believe its an objective truth that makes the series worse or that you are just being opinionated. Because i can tell you its not the former
Ninjutsu
Yin/yang
Shadow style/light style
Fire style
Lightning style
Wind style
Earth style
Water style
Kenjutsu
Senjutsu
Taijutsu
Genjutsu
Summoning
Walking on water/surfaces
Kekkai genkai
Kekkai tota
Kekkai mora
Dojutsu
10:33 This did not just "pop up on the spot". Kakashi talks about how elemental jutsu was Jonin level when he saw Sasuke use the fireball justsu in Part 1. It wasn't brought up after because Kakashi wasn't actually teaching the team anything until that point in Shippuden. This was not made up on the spot.
11:50 Ying and Yang chakra may have been named around chapter 500 but sever characters, like Shikamaru and Ino, were using jutsu that didn't fall into the normal application of chakra (ninjutsu, taijutsu, and genjutsu). So we knew there were more categories, they just didn't say the name. Mainly because we view the story through the eyes of Naruto and not characters using Yin and Yang chakra like Ino and Shikamaru. If it was from their perspective we would have learned the chakra types they were using sooner. That being said, this was also not made up on the spot.
12:50 You not paying attention when reading the series does not mean Kishimoto is clumbsy. Authors aren't gonna info dumb their entire power system in one chapter. He told you the basics of what you needed to know and showed you stuff that was outside of his explanation to show you that there's more to it. Which is what literally every one does.
@Wrath Incarnate Not really. Togashi does that, but not every author is Togashi. The school is just for the basics. They didn't even teach Chakra control. Everyone who learned it learned it at home or because they studied it on their own. That school didn't teach much now that I think of it. Knowing that the elemental jutsu is Jonin, it makes sense that it's not being taught to kids. In fact the only people we really see use it are Jonin, Haku, Sasuke, and the Kage until part 2. Unless I'm forgetting a character.
No, we never knew that were more categories of chakra, cause we never knew that chakra had categories. We knew that we had ELEMENTAL JUTSU but elemental NATURE'S for the chakra you're born with. You can clearly see that Yin Yang was named in chapter 500 and everything that didn't fit the 5 caegories was just shoved onto that so we could accept it easier. And that's something people get wrong about that scene, I'm reading the manga from chapter one and Kakashi NEVER said chakra nature was Jounin level, he simply TOUGHT to himself "A child shouldn't know wow to use that type of Jutsu". And after that, we had Kakashi teaching Sasuke to use lightning and until now we only knew that Sasuke could use fire, and the elements were more like just categories of jutsus, with everyone being able to use all of them but some had more afinity with one or the other. When Kakashi was teachng Sasuke to use lightning to attack, Chakra's nature should've been adressed. And Kishimoto IS clumsy, cause author tends to HIDE the fact they havend't invented all therules of their power systems yet. They don't simply shove them in and call it a day, they do it in a way that you can go back to the start of the series and give new meaning to old things like, as an example, Observation Haki in One Piece: In Skypiea, Enel, a villain had the ability to see everything that happened in his island and could predict your movements when being attacked, at that point in history, it was called Mantra and was just a power they had, years later when Oda finally decided that Haki was a power system he created the Observation Haki which gave you the ability to sense\see things from long distances and predict your opponents moves and then, Mantra became that and the explanation now is that it was called Mantra cause Skypiea has a different culture where they call it Mantra. Do you see the difference?Even if Haki was not a thing at that point in history, when it was implemented, old events were retconed in a way that you could perceive them as "Oh, so Haki actually existed since here and he was just hiding that from us, clever man you are mister Oda". In Naruto, when you reach the last chapter and go back, things simply turn confuse and senseless cause they were never implemented on that smooth way, like, for exmaple, Shuukaku and Kurama were created by the same guy and always kne each other but when Naruto transforms in Kurama in his fight against Gaara, Shuukaku acts as if he never knew what a 9 tailed fox was and as if they weren't created by the same person. Or like, when you have the chakra explanations and you think like "Well but, what about shikamaru? And Ino? Where they fit in? If you say there are ONLY those 5, where does Shadow goes?" and then years later you have a reminder of like "Oh yeah, it was just Yin and Yang, no explanations. Everything that doesn't fit the 5 categories is Yin and Yang, just accept it"
@Wrath Incarnate Temari was specifically held back so she could participate in the invasion as a participant. Also everything else you said just proves my point. Nobody used it, especially not the main character. The people who did didn't get training arcs from their perspective.
@Excelsior Naruto went there for a long ass time and didn't learn a single thing. Of the Konoha eleven all of them learned their skills and knowledge at home and from their family. Except Naruto, who had to learn on his own and on missions. The hundreds of other people at the school did what exactly? Not a fucking thing because that's what the school teaches you.
@Excelsior We can agree on that. To be fair we learn later the school hadn't even been around that long.
i was already making a jojo stand analiys the i came across your video and got the idea to make videos and make a series
Man, I wish we could get see more of Kenjutsu, and espiecally the Samurai and how they use chakra, outside of that one moment when they show us, they are able to infuse chakra into weapons. A bit weak. A whole different culture got brushed off so fast. :/
ahhh Naruto !!!
I'd also say that Chakra has a power creep problem, which is avoided much better in HxH and Jojo's for example
chakra is so interesting because it already studied, master and well understood for thousands of years in india and i believe in other countries as well and naruto take it and make it more interesting
one huge issue i have is that chakra used to be balanced but then some people became super OP,at least in dragon ball,nothing stops a human from learning kaioken and becoming competitive with that saiyans even the tribeam (which though we only see tien use it,nothing stops others from using it) allowed tien to be pretty strong in the cell saga.
Huge props to you for not caring about Boruto. 10/10 video
My biggest problem with the power system of Naruto is that mixing chakra elements into a new elemental Kekkei Genkai is genetic. Would be a lot more interesting to see characters train to mix them to create a variety of different elements. Really destroys the idea of the show where you can become stronger through hard work by having an idea so powerful being locked by genetics.
yeah, that never made much sense to me.
My problem with chakra in naruto is that it came from aliens.
That was never the idea of the show
they probably can its just really hard lol
@@koi8613 i think they mentioned it is genetics
There plenty of talented shinobi none of them were able to unlock it on it own
Everyone who have it either stolen or was already Born in fammily line.
But personally i would love the sharingan to just being advanced aplication of chakra on eyes.
Who who who. Is anyone gonna talk about the spider guy!?
I think Kishimoto was hesitant to get into the details of the power system but the strategic nature of the combat forced him to. Luckily, Naruto is a terrible student so anytime he gets stuff like chakra nature explained to him Kakashi or Sakura are all like "Dude, they taught you this in the academy."
What about the power System of our World called Electricity?
Sasuke broke the Chakra power system with the Great Snake Escape Jutsu.
Rasengan looks so much better in the games anime
The heavens and earth scrolls, forbidden forest.
I was waiting for you to do a Naruto video and I'm hyped as fuck!
It starts off amazing and well-thought.
Ends up as a pile of nonsense that even Kishimoto doesn't care to understand.
I personally think the strongest jutsu in Naruto should've been Amaterasu. That was the sweet spot and where it should've ended scaling up.
how is it a pile of nonsense? a jutsu like indara's arrow or lava release rasenshuriken makes perfect sense. I'd say something like the reaper death seal is alot harder of a concept to grasp
amaterasu wasnt that strong to begin with even when it was introduced
You should do bleach’s power system next
Two additionnal flaw you didn't really mention:
Hands signs seem to become optional the further the series developped, whereas they seemed incredibly important early on, the first high power jutsu we see probably Zabuza's water dragon, and Kakashi had to copy a long ass sequence of handsigns, and it winds up being the longest (I think) in the entire show, when the power creep makes it a nearly inconsequential jutsu. Bit inconsistent there.
Genjutsu: It's either vastly overpowered, or absolutely useless. We either have genjutsu that any story relevant character can dismiss, or genjutsu that no-one can. There's not much happening in between, genjutsu is too strong in it's effects and it boils down to either it works, or it doesn't (most of the time), and that's pretty bad design imo. Genjutsu winds up being dismissed as a plot-device and leaves Taijutsu and Ninjutsu to do all the heavy lifting in battle sequences.
Edit: Oh third point that just came to mind: Chakra reserves. Jonins in the early days have absolutely nowhere near the amount of chakra available to them as most Chuunin do halfway into Shippuden, it's always presented in abstract terms and never quantified how much chakra any individual has, but it is a limitation that didn't find it's purpose later on in the series and loses any reference point from the early arcs. War Arc Kakashi must have 50x the chakra reserves Zabuza Arc Kakashi had.
It's established in part 1 that a powerful ninja can reduce the number of hand seals needed, as the series goes on the characters get stronger so they can reduce the number of hand seals used.
@@Resters52_official Which is a powercreep problem: Making jutsus overpower because everyone can make it fast and no one can stop it, making 99% of the fights be decided by who has the best jutsus and more chackra.
@@enzojose4001 I never said it wasn't, I was just saying that hand signs didn't become optional, they were just advancing towards the point we saw earlier in the series, that makes sense, as enemies become stronger the protagonists have to overcome them, therefore they get stronger as well, though this in itself is not powercreep, from what I understand powercreep is when the main main characters get stronger and leave everyone else behind (Like DBZ, the saiyan characters kept getting stronger and everyone else was sort of sidelined), the powercreep comes in near the end I think, where Naruto and Sasuke have six paths powers, giant chakra mechs, all the tailed beast's chakra/rinnegan respectively, and can probably destroy mountains pretty casually. Up until that point (to my knowledge) most of the rest of the cast can keep up, Hinata held her own against pain for a bit, Lee has his gates, Sakura can fuck up a landscape, Kiba has the three headed dog transformation and his techniques are pretty good generally, Shino's bugs are pretty powerful, Kakashi is Kakashi, Tea Asuma hold their own pretty well, especially Shikamaru, Guy even fucks up Madara, I haven't seen the entire series so I don't know how Neji did, Tenten got shafted but I'm not 100% sure she didn't start that way, cool ability though, and I can't remember anyone elses names.
@@enzojose4001 There's nothing necessarily wrong with "power creep". Despite all the asspulls that happen in the final arcs, strategy/creativity was apart of Naruto fights basically until the very end.
@@Gabe7Gal For me Power Creep ruined a good part of the story, all Naruto villains have become much less emblematic, Madara Six Paths basically has his butt kicked by any Boruto Character. And the entire Akatsuki has the ass kicked by the Edo Madara, and any member of Akatsuki destroys Zabuza. Kakuzu is said to have fought against the first Hokage, but thanks to Power Creep the guy became a joke.
In this sense, I would like Naruto to be more like one piece, characters like Shanks or Mihawak that were presented early in the series, even 1000 chapters later, they are still monsters, they are legends, and are among the most powerful, even if they are overcome, and they will be, they will still remain among the most powerful, it is not as if Zoro was one-shot Mihawk at the end of the manga, or Luffy is so powerful to do the same with Shanks or with some of the Admirals.
It would be interesting, if even after the end of the manga, and after Naruto becomes Hokage, if for some reason he had to fight Akatsuki again, Akatsuki would still be a threat to him, he would still win but would not be something he could do so easily. Currently you do not even need to make a discussion if Naruto would be able to wipe the floor with all Akatsuki.
Have you ready any of the Boruto Manga at all? The recent arc that we’re in is actually pretty good. It’s a time where chakra is old school and there’s more technology at play. Interested to see your take on the “Boruto” timeline if you ever feel like it.
To clarify it’s more Otsutsuki and chakra oriented than anything but technology still makes itself known in the series and how it attempts to almost replace the need for ninjutsu entirely.
@@CptnCobblestone Otsusutsuki was one of the things that ruined Naruto in the first place. Ninja aliens, dimensional travel, overpower jutsus and infinite chackra.
Introduce new characters to explore other villages and countries in order to make a better world building? Nah, let's keep the old charactets and make them fight gods with their childrens.
I actually have three different views on the whole Naruto franchise. I miss Naruto part 1 for sure. Back when strategy was crucial and things were at high stake and actually felt more threatening than the whole war arc in shippuden. It was gritty and detailed oriented. Once I got used to Shippuden’s style it began to grow on me despite the constant power buffs and plot holes towards the end. I wouldn’t have minded if they had ended Naruto after the fight with Sasuke. Showing Naruto as Hokage. Period. The end. That would have been just fine for me. I personally didn’t care for Boruto himself or the newer generation. This brings me to my third viewpoint, Naruto continued. Even after Naruto becomes Hokage, I still would have liked him and Sasuke fighting side by side now as friends instead of enemies versus whatever comes their way, including otsutski. I feel like Kishi could have done a better job with their characters and purpose. I always was intrigued with their Castle in their dimension and where they came from. It sort of becomes this Goku and Vegeta sort of thing. Goku is a material arts master but also a universe champion in some respects. So I also could see a series like that go far with Naruto and Sasuke instead of it just being “Naruto”. Idk just some thoughts on it. Boruto is alright but we all know the main characters will forever rock.
3:03 shigaraki had tons of those to throw....
Emphasis on *HAD*
You just reminded me I have like 3 chapters to catch up on
This show made everyone throw gang signs
Yooo boruto manga is great.
Dude look at the world trigger power system. It is awsome.
I think the introduction of Senjutsu was handled well. Because it was such a rare skill and had a high difficulty learning curve, it made sense that no one would know about it and we would need an explanation.
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Great analysis, it really is a great and interesting system overall that offers a ton of unique and very cool abilities. Many critics of the power system get too hung up on the Sharingan being too overpowered, but honestly the sharingan was so cool and added so much to the story that I don't mind that. I think your criticism in this video, that basic elements of the power system were unnaturally introduced way too late in the story, is a much more valid point.
The problem with the sharingan is that its progression of power does not seem natural. At first, it was a psychological power: you can read your opponent's movements and put them in genjutsu.
Then, you can summon a giant chakra armor, izanami and izanagi (the most broken genjustsus of all time) and provide unique power (amaterasu and dimensional travel)
@@enzojose4001 Actually at first, Sharingan made you able to COPY your opponents moves and jutsus, THEN it became only reading your opponents movements and creating genjutsu and then became a "Do eveything you want". And fun fact, Kishimoto said that he abandoned the idea of Sharingan being able to copy people's jutsus cause he thought that would make Sharingan too overpowered for the series
@@vcamv2354also kishi never said that nigga
@@enzojose4001the only unnatural progression was the armor. that was insane. everything else made sense.
Chakra comes from a sanskrit word and is mentioned in Buddhist and hindu mythology
i would argue that kekei genkai are a system flaw because of the thematic clashing the cause as soon as they are introduced. They are handled so poorly. These genetic advantages should feel special and contrast naruto's need to earn his strength. But instead they fell overused and that naruto having the 9 tails always compesates for the power they bring.
What thematic clashing?
nigga huh? for every evolution of the sharingan naruto was either slightly behind or on par and that wasnt because of kurama. Not in a ill give you energy way anyway. naruto was fighting on his own for the most part. sasuke was given near everything he had in his arsenal, while naruto had to work with a tailed beast who was trying to kill him or make his life difficult. he literallyy did not want naruto learning sage mode and in turn made it harder for him to. kurama didnt start “helping” naruto until the damn war arc. kuruma hasnt “won” naruto that many if any at all fights until the later portions of the war arc
Power system from Gurren Lagan please! Helix life energy!
Yin/Yang wasn't introduced at one time in chapter 500, it was a mysterious concept that generated lots of discussion anticipation and theory-crafting over the course of shippuden. First there were yin release techniques as far back as part 1, such as Yin healing wound destruction. In part 2 it was mentioned by Yamato and Kakashi but not explained to keep it simple for Naruto ( this was for the readers to start thinking ). Then Jiraya mentioned that Nagato had mastered all *6* changes in chakra nature ( another reminder of yin/yang ). Then Danzo brought out the Izanagi, which gave us our first look at how yin/yang gets to the fundamental nature of magic in the verse and just how powerful it is.
I also don't agree with the idea that the fundamentals of the system has to be revealed early. The journey in Naruto is mostly learning more about the fundamentals of the world as you go through it. Just as we go deeper and further back into the history of the shinobi world, we go deeper and further back into the nature of chakra. It makes sense because if you really understand a system, there's no more mystery. If your system has a complete explanation you've just lost something for viewers to be interested in.
They did mention yin and yang when Kakashi talked about chakra nature tho
Back when everyone was waving handsigns, I was out here doing the edo tensei justu, rip momma!❤
11:00 Elemental chakra was introduced in the very first arc. When they fought Haku, Sasuke thought his fire would melt the ice mirrors, and it failed, because Ice element is a combination of elements one of which fire is weak to. Element was already mentioned and in place right from the beginning. Why would it be necessary to explain it sooner when a better place to learn about it would be when Naruto learns about it?
Because it's a bad world-building. If you are a soldier in a world where people can summon fireballs and control the elements, anyone with two brain cells would want to know how it works and learn as quickly as possible.
In hunter x hunter, for example, nen is a secret that only hunters and government officials know exists. However, when Gon and Killua learn about the existence of the nen, they do everything possible to learn everything about it, since their survival depends on it.
I gotta say I disagree with you when you said "I don't believe he was inventing it along" and from the amount of Retcons, massive worlbuilding problemns that seems little we can see since the beginning of the series, the fact that Kishimoto himself said that, when he was on the Naruto VS Gaara fight he still didn't knew where tot ake the story, and only knew that he wanted Sasuke and Naruto to fight at the end, the amount of moments where he does something just because he likes it irl, like the Gaara VS Naruto being a Kaijuu fight cause he loves Godzilla and wanted to put it in his show. And I say this cause, as a writter myself, I do those kinda things! I create the begning, the end but I never work right on the middle, so it feels always like a race to get to the interesting part about the end, while letting the middle parte be messy as hell, cause in the major points, like Naruto VS Pain or Sasuke VS Itachi he does very well, but in the middle, in the progression for those amazing moments, is always choppy and bad executed. I'll do this in the future on my channel, where I'll go trough every arc of Naruto analyzing everything, picking aparte very plot hole, every error in wordbuilding and every Retcon just to see how much of them have and how much of a mess Naruto actually is, how much emotional manipulation the series use to grasp our attentions and everything, not to say that Naruto is bad, is actually in the middle, like, is not a good work, but it's not bad either, is just like... Middle, normal, full of flaws but with cool things to aprecciate (Sorry for any writing error, english is no my first language)
That sounds really interesting. I'd agree that Naruto isn't completely trash. It's really fun and entertaining, but I don't think it's a masterpiece.
@@thabokgwele5268 Yeah, like, if you watch just to see battles and nija stuff and to remember nostalgia, just like I do, you can really enjoy, but if you try to think about anything, for just 1 second, the series crumbles entirely
Thabo Kgwele too bad, it is and has cemented itself as such. Sounds like you guys are just “tired” of it Becusse you’ve grown up with it and now you think you’ve gotten into bigger and better things so trashing naruto is the cool thing to do 😂
@@daelanbro Well, actually no o.O As I said, I LIKE Naruto a lot! And yeah, it has cemented utself as masterpiece cause everyone watched as kids when they didn't have OBJECTIVE capacity of criticism so they cried easily. Unfortunatley, NO, Naruto isn't a masterpiece, but I'm not complaining or saying people are wrong for liking it. You can like everything you want, but be comscious tgat YOU liking it, doesn't actually mean it's good. Naruto has A LOT os writing problems, and everyone that know a little about writing can sre that
@@daelanbro And actually,have grown up with Naruto is what makes so many prople thibk it's cool cause they attach memories and nostalgia to it, instead of like, paying attention to what's really hapoening and they always talk about the themes it has but Never talk about the EXECUTION of them, cause it doesn't matter if you have the best themes in the world, if you don't execute them properly
I’m glad you mentioned the Yin Yang release thing because I remember watching the show as it aired and I was so lost on what they were and why I had never heard of it but now it’s like a BIG thing when someone has it. I honestly thought I missed something lol.
I've always considered Chakra a middle magic system in how it was implemented. It definitely has categories of a hard magic system where it is predictable and consistent. But I argue as the series went on, it lost a lot of that. One of my biggest frustrations with Kishimoto was his overeliance on eye-techniques and Kekkei Genkai. Specifically, the Uchiha clan. The Sharingan already was a really powerful ability with some good drawbacks. But Kishimoto made the fatal flaw of just arbitrarily adding on more and more powers. Brandon Sanderson in his rules of magic makes it clear that whenever expanding a magic system, you should go inwards and focus on existing elements as opposed to introducing newer abilities tied to it. So for example in the book Mistborn(his book), the magic system is metals. The user consumes metals in liquid and burns them. Tin is a metal that enhances senses and burns the less. In the final book, there is a character who learns that they can actively keep Tin burning for such an extended time that their senses can be permanently altered for the best. Keep in mind, this is an EXISTING ability but it is taken to its zenith. It isn't stacking on new powers arbitrarily, cough Izanami. But to be fair, a lot of Jump titles tend to do this.
Yeah but he still wrote the zabuza arc which is better than anything horikoshi will ever write so there’s that
@@luisfernandez1387 yeah and thats the only quality part besides chunin exams of naruto
Nen >>> All of Sanderson’s magic systems.
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Every fight still involved plenty of strategies and tricks so it's alright
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Watch Oceaniz discuss all the power systems of Bleach
Bleach power system is trash. The final arc is full of people with the most broken powers and losing in the most stupid way possible.
One thing i dont like you didnt mention is the type advantages. Exept the water is effective against fire it doesnt make a lot of sense.
naruto is using emp bomb.
Boruto? Hows that? An NPC in the filler arc?
Do more..plz
I still don't know if Chakra is life energy or stamina or not.
Naruto is able to pull his chakra (or the 9 tails) to refuel his own stamina and revitalize his life force(healing). so id assume, it can act as both.
Stamina is a component of chakra. Stamina plus spiritual energy = chakra. Its why when naruto was training his nature, even though he was basically just standing around afterwards he was super drained.
it's explained in great detail in chapter 90 page 4-6. Naruto's a big story, lots of confusion comes from the fact that most readers just don't know it.
Can you do black clover
I really like the additions of Shippuden but like you said, the placement felt weird. I will always think that if we ever got some like Naruto KaiBrotherhood where Jump just have us a complete top to bottom retelling of Naruto with all the hindsight and everything. Naruto would be super tight. Like, the ideas are all great, but the execution left a lot to be desired.
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I think kishimoto introduced things and explained them at a fine time. We learn this stuff as naruto learns it. He is a big dumb ass who from the very beginning had issues with controlling chakra. Naruto learned chakra as a genin rather than academy. He skipped out on that lol. Chakra being a softer magic system became a bit nebulous in shippiden . That is something I can agree with as people’s chakra levels and the abilities tossed out became bigger and bigger. Chidori took so much chakra that Kakashi could use four shots before being empty. Late game shippuden was just kamui spam and chidori spam.
@Wrath Incarnate Sasuke probably does understand the concept of nature change. Sasuke already was doing firestyle jutsus that surprised Kakashi. Sasukes true utilization as a dueteragonist wasnt until he offed Orochimaru
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Yay pls do more power system 😍😍😍
The Negative is because story is from naruto point of view.
I cant wait to hear about haki and devil fruits lol
Do hitman reborn’s power system
Oceniz Do Black Clover Mana as a Power System! I chose that as a Video Request
I second this
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@@ghost4439 when exactly did he say this? and even then, he can still go over the power system
@@ghost4439 so...he does like the show
@@ghost4439 what's his twitter
chakra is basically magic where other magic users call it mana or ether or magoi etc it's still the same life energy used to create the magic that is drawn from one's self and the world around them thou naruto tries to be more specific like saying chakra is spiritual and physical energy combine and is more precise with how chakra flows around the body in coils/pipes. other series have energy pools up and flow in different areas. and naruto most ninja focus on using personal energy until they learn sage mode to perform their magical abilities. others the users naturally use their personal energy with the energy around them to perform magic where to control the natural energies or absorb them to perform powerful spells and restore strength which would be called channelers.
It’s ironic that the people who “hate” narutos ending comes from an age where everyone bitched about it in youtube around 2012-2015 meanwhile I know someone who didn’t experience naruto with the anime community and the hail the 4th great ninja war as one of the best arcs in naruto. People who bitch about narutos ending act like the whole war was bad when in fact they just didn’t like kaguya. It’s not nearly as bad as you guys make it out to be at ALL.
Well... I mean this is going to sound bad but.... The war arc and Kaguya are very culturally specific. Her appearance and her being the source of chakra as the moon princess actually makes a lot of sense, but if you don't know the legends and culturally integral images, it just feels hollow. Oceanis mentions this when he speaks of the breach between ninshu and ninjutsu. He's right when speaks about how late certain things come up, but it doesn't take away my enjoyment of the war arc. I liked it, but I waited for the arc to be over and read it as a whole.
true, watched all of Naruto over the last year. i get some of the criticisms but i thought it was pretty decent overall.
I like Boruto
Ever heard of a soft and hard magic systems? Soft magic is when magic can do anything (e.g end of shippuden or lord of the rings) while hard magic are set in stone system(e.g avatar the last air bender) then there’s some in between and their extremes (e.g fma extremes to soft while fmab extremes to hard)
I prefer power systems that are very personalised like Devil fruits nen and stands
Hey boruto's pretty alright
also what's the addition it made to chakra you were talking about, karma?
Can't be kenjutsu because the samurai used it in shippuden. Karma as a concept is just the curse mark and Biju combined so its not really a new system.
Maybe the scientific ninja tool but that's basically like the weapons scroll but more compact. Its basically what Jiariya did to itachi's amaterasu in part one.
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*I'm not even seven minutes into this video yet, and I would already consider it to be a masterpiece.* ✌
I feel like the reason because the information comes so late is cause naruto is just learning it or that all of it at once would be too boring at the beginning
Boruto’s addition to the power system is pretty great. It holds to the fundamentals.
What is the addition exactly?
rolay 7 Most of the new generation’s new jutsu are starting out grounded closer to part 1 from Boruto creating the Boruto stream to Konohamuru creating a new sealing jutsu. Even the jogan and karma have abilities outside of their general strength and speed boost that keeps them interesting.
It holds to the fundamentals? I mean dude, Boruto as a pre-teen is somehow able to add chakra nature to a rasengan without clones or any type of hax. The fact that he was even able to completely master the base rasengan is already a huge stretch, as naruto wasn't able to create a rasengan without hax until the freaking war arc. But full on wind and lighting release too??? Naruto had to use 3 fuckin clones to do it until the war arc and even then he never mastered it without using hax until AFTER the the series ended. Not to mention that people like Minato and Kakashi, some of the most talented characters in the series, were never able to add chakra nature to the rasengan whatsoever. So yeah, I wouldn't say that the Boruto series is super great at aligning with the original series.
@@Gabe7Gal the vanishing rasengan was created on accident just like the chidori. The Boruto’s vanishing rasengan and wind style are both incomplete. Boruto has had a better understanding of chakra natures than Naruto did early on. Minato just died before he could experiment more with the rasengan, besides he did the hardest part by creating the jutsu in the first place. Boruto being skilled and having a more beneficial academy experience doesn’t take away from the power system.