Danny MacAskill - Riding slabs with the New Magura Gustav Pro Ebike brakes!
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- With the release of the new Magura Gustav Pro coming up, I was lucky enough to be sent a pair earlier in the year to test on a standard summers day at home in Scotland.
We had a wild day of sun, snow, and thunderstorms to really give us a mix of conditions to test the brakes and how consistent they would feel descending some steep slabs!
Head to Magura’s website to learn more about the brakes themselves: magura.com/en/EUR/ - Sport
the man can upload a 2 minute ad and i still just watch it.
Yet it still feels like a 2 minute ad in the end...
Plz put sponsored in the next sponsored video…
Indeed. But... This was disapointing
i know right, start watching, realize its just an ads, keep watching, cuz cant stop.
I dont need the brakes, just the skills 😂
To think, Danny used to service my bike back in the day before he was famous! Great to see him still at the top of his game.
Next time you encounter him, ask him to go get his shine box.
"scottish summer" made me laugh
played golf in the rain the other day, nice temps, no wind. passed another group and the guy said 'like playing in Scotland, without the wind and cold'. so my question- is it really that bad in Scotland even in summer? is the weather that foul? part of my ancestory is Scottish, but i haven't been!
Your videos always leave me 1. Missing home, 2. Motivated to get out n about for more adventures. @DannyMacAskill keep rocking it 🤘🏼 love your work.
False.
Very nostalgic, that bright yellow!
They do the Raceline Editions in that to this day.
Watching you since 3 years but never got bored. Salute to your bravery and confidence. Keep on going brother ❤. Love from India
Amazing Danny, as always you push the envelope, another stunning video. Regarding the weather, I always say that Vivaldi came to Scotland for 1 hour in the summer and got the inspiration for the 4 Seasons.
In love with this man and Scotland 😮
Front wheel stoppie down some steep slabs in the Scottish weather ☔😂 Magura brakes look the business - thanks for sharing Danny and team!
looks good!
IIRC Hope bought out the first hydraulic disc brake in MTB, a quick google and it looks like they were available to the public in 1995 where as the original Gustav was released in 1996.
The Sachs Power Disk came out around the same time too afair
What's really crazy is Shimano released hydraulically actuated rim brakes in 1969 with a valving set up in the lever to allow one lever to actuate both brakes without the rear wheel locking up, then they released a mechanical disk brake in 1971, forgot about the whole lot and waited till the late 1990s to release a hydraulic disk. At that time XTR V Brakes were what most pro DH riders were running up front because they were more powerful than the disks their sponsors were selling.
@@peglor I'm not a pro but from what I remember in the mid 90s XT/XTR V-brakes were the best out there for MTB. Magura rim brakes were more powerful and the defacto brake for trials but had very little modulation. Having done some swatting up today to remind myself the pro DH riders were all riding Hope disc brakes by '96 though (sorry Magura).
Edit: Its definitely fair to say the Magura Gustavs were amongst the first hydraulic disc brakes for MTB but the pedant in me had to comment 😜
@@sandy_knight Magura rim brakes were absolutely not more powerful than VBrakes - I used both HS33s (The most powerful version of Magura rim brakes) back to back with Shimano XT VBrakes, and the VBrake absolutely destroyed the Magura brakes in any power test, as well as having better bite hold and modulation.
Where VBrakes did fail is in terms of maintenance demands for riding in a wet muddy climate as well as even good cables being nothing like as smooth as hydraulics. I got good ad making shims from soda cans to take up all the play in the parallelogram pivots on my brakes to keep them running nicely. The frightening thing is the pads that came on the first XT VBrakes were so hard they wore through 3 rims before they got to the point they needed replacing - and that's with plenty of muddy gritty riding.
That's the reason trials riders are still using HS33 brakes (Filled with water or antifreeze rather than more viscous mineral oil), because the really precise feel at the lever gives confidence.
Since they're either deliberately coating the braking surface with tar or resin to make it sticky or angle grinding the braking surface so the pads bite into it, modulation is absolutely not a consideration, just out and out bite and hold.
Hope Trial Zone or MT7 Magura disks outperform any Magura rim brake setup or VBrake setup setup I've ever used on my trials bikes though. Disks are a lot easier to damage of you snag one on the edge of something you're hopping onto too though.
yes and they were way better than Maguras too.
As an aside .. I was just this afternoon taking off my shockingly bad new-gen XTR brakes and replacing them with my 1.5 decade old Hope 6tis and those brakes are the dogs nads honestly.
Back in the day, I use to ride a 20" Monty and we use to rub tar on the rims. Them were the days 😊
Before disc brakes I had a set of hydraulic rim brakes from Magura. They pushed the pads straight onto the rim instead of at an angle like V-Brakes of the time. They also had huge full moto levers. Riding in the PNW which is perpetually wet these were totally worth the upgrade.
Magura please make 4 piston road brakes for flat mount and brifters. Mullet XC needs them thank you.
that would be killer. Flat mount/brifter brakes that I've used so far all suck
Muy buenos videos,
Saludos desde México
Brakes . . . what a fascinating topic
Awesome :)
Go on Danny 👌🤘
The king 👍🏻
My old Magura MT2 are serving me for more than a decade now. Good brakes.
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Correction, Magura were the first Hydraulic brakes on bikes, with the HS33, the name Gustav only came with the first disc brake. :)
Oh... Disc brake? Still wrong.... "In 1994 and 1995 Hope launched a hydraulic brake system at Eurobike with a concept twin disc system,[11] although only a single sided version was available to the public. The new braking system saw its first win for Rob Warner at the 1996 Grundig World Cup DH in Kaprun in Austria.[12] Thank to this success, as well as good results in other races, Hope expanded its facilities to Skipton Road, Barnoldswick (39,000 sq ft) in 1998."
Never mind the brakes, what brand is that umbrella?
It looks great and ive been looking for a good mountain brolly for ages.
Long time no see 👀❤ ...
excellent
I used to ride a bike all the time, but haven't for at least 7 years, I miss it so much, would be an absolute dream to ride something like that, but y'know, life.
been there, new bike a few months back, not looked back. You live once!
@@andrew8200m It's not that I don't want to ride again, I just don't have anywhere to store one to keep it in good nick 😥
@@Billybobble1 buy a wall mount and have it in the living room, I’m sure you’ve had your endure the absolute garbage your missus has plastered all over the place because she (not you) thinks it’s classy and looks great. Now you can add a piece of art work for fairness? There’s always a way :)
my first hydraulic brakes luminous hs22 rim brakes they were the best
I love my MT7s - much less random bite point variation than Shimanos, no annoying spring between the brake pads as they use magnets to stop the pads rattling and plenty of power, but the amount of random squeaking from disk rub I get with these used on my trials bike in completely clean conditions is shocking. Off road, with a decent coating of mud they behave perfectly though (On 2 other of my bikes).
The lever adjustments, especially the free stroke adjustment, is only marginally less useless than Shimano's take on the same adjustment, in that it's nearly impossible to tell the difference between fully wound in and fully wound out. MT7 brakes mostly don't ship with this adjustment, so save the money by not adding it. The Hope Tech levers remain the absolute gold standard for brake levers where all the adjustments actually do something, but I'm not a fan of DOT fluid when mineral oil is safer and works better though, and even though Hope have magnetic pad retention on the trials brake, they still use those awful springs to keep the pads from rattling on their XC/DH brakes.
I couldn't disagree more to your point about the lever adjustment. I have found it incredibly useful on my MT7 Pros. It's especially useful to me when you change pads or rotor on only one end of the bike. You can really dial in the bite point so both levers are perfectly balanced. I've also found it useful to gain a little more brake confidence at the end of a full day of DH laps.
For the dry squeaking issue, yeah, I'm with you there! I have had decent success by truing my rotors with a dial indicator. It's tedious but it's the only thing that has worked. After a brake heavy day, they're out by a few thou again anyway so it's a constant battle. For the most part, I just live with it now. Hey, at least I don't need to wear a bell on the trail for hikers! lol
@@tbroekemeier Sounds like you're talking about the reach adjustment that comes on every lever, which does work, rather than the bite point/free stroke one that you can add as a pin with a cam on it that you rotate that limits how far the lever moves outwards at rest. This replaces a constant cross section pin that every MT7 lever ships with.
I’m curious to try them. It’s gonna take a lot to get me to move away from Hayes Dominions thoughhh
Cool!
you misspelled: "riders are getting heavier" :D still using the old trusty Gustav M for my enduro in the front. Max once per year a small checkup and off we go for another season. Performs like at day one.
Babe wake up, Danny dropped another banger
Danny is too good at balancing, he never drops anything! He cautiously slides it into your notifications :D
@@myaiua i mean, you're not wrong haha
Just hope it will have the quality of the old Gustav M
I've still got my old Hope MonoTi6 on my bike. Kinda of time for a new bike now though
Not a cheap plastic lever, right? Right?!
Don’t get your hopes up
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Basicly you now only need a front brake. Less unsprung weight in the back.
This is the first video I watched from him that just seems like a commercial, but whatever
I'm sorry, but wasn't the Formula disk brake the first hydraulic mountain bike disk brake?
yes, Magura had the first hydraulic brake. HS 22 or so. The Gustav came a bit later and was actually marketed for long distance travel bikers and bikes for 2 people. my Gustav still performs since 2004 like on day one in the steep Austrian hiking paths.
It’s hard to believe that they provide enough of a heat sink to prevent warping.
Great advert
About these new hydraulic brakes, have they also managed to fit them with ABS?
Would you even want to use ADS brakes?
Man Magura told SRAM game on
Would love a full edit. Swear he rides less now than he used to before Santa Cruz sponsorship 😞
...not to grabby....................brakes we all need.....................cheers
Are there’s on pair with hope v4s
What's the chrome bit attached to the rotor, at 0:17 ? - Update: Speed sensor magnet
how come when i press front brakes going down hill my wheels locks up and i go flying?
so were the Gustav's the predecessor or contemporary to the Raceline Yellows? Those things would flex the legs and even the arch of my Judy DH's like nothing. One finger pull
Wonder how easy it is to bleed these, was going to buy the mt5's until i read how much of a pain ro bleed them.
The man has Skill in his last name... 🙄
nobody:
Shimano: can we do better, wait already did it
Waths the man of this bike
By Maguras own admission these are not really any better than the MT7 as those brakes are "good enough".. so what do these exactly offer outside the hose connect and the fact that they can house a little more pad for reduced maintenance?
These are just ebike brakes made to be used with abs. And to make them more appealing they named them Gustav for nostalgia sake.
'first hydraulic disc brake' - yeah, I think a few other manufacturers might have something to say about that! As an established brake manufacturer, Magura were pretty late to the party with their disc brakes
So just an advert for brakes
I know, you wait half a year for another Danny vid and you get "...and now a word from our sponsor"
Nothing escapes you, eh?
i miss the video like (Inspired Bicycles - Danny MacAskill April 2009) and not these commercials ones :S
That's my favourite! 😃❤
Judging the aesthetics alone I think these levers look nicer than MT5 & MT7 but the calipers just look strange to me. not as nice looking, not that that's what you buy them for but my observation
I'm sure they're great until they're not. Had many a Magura lever snap back in the day and just wouldn't trust anything Magura makes now. Fair enough if your sponsor is providing a cupboard full of replacements, but no way I'd put them on a bike and use them daily.
L'été écossais ? Aucune différence avec le Doubs. 😅
I'm surprised Hope don't sponsor him. That's the brakes I've chosen for over 15 years. Magura are spongy and sieze up in hot weather like Avid. Not a good brake.
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bike get less travel the days not more^^
Magura calipers with Shimano levers!
Magura needs to stop using that weak plastic for levers.
disc belong on mountain bikes they have ruined road bikes
A really skilled rider wouldn't need a motor. Period. And having ridden the Shore for 43 years, I can attest to the fact that if we didn't need motors 25 years ago with the dead heavy bikes we rode then, you don't need a motor now. My big bike is 50+ lb without a motor and I can still pedal it uphill. What's your excuse?
e bike is not for young and healthy people. thumb down