How NOT to buy a Volkswagen CC
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2023
- In this video, we inspect a Volkswagen CC purchased on Facebook Marketplace for $1,200 that claimed to have a blown head gasket. However, the car turned out to have a hail-damaged hood and roof, a missing tail light cover, and so much more. Although the car smokes while running, which may indicate a blown head gasket, the smoke smells weird and gross instead of sweet, which is what would happen if the car had a blown head gasket. So today we will try and figure out what is wrong with this 2.0T TSI CC, and inspect the rest of the car along the way.
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It doesn't need a head gasket. It just needs absolutely everything else
Literally 🤣
Oh man got mine for 4k in 2017, a week off the lot the rear main went out. All in all I spent about 8k in parts before I wrecked the damn thing in two years lmao. I will say hitting a guard rail at over 90 mph, the thing saved my life before literally shredding to pieces.
Literally …
It needs to be junked.
i bought an identical one and long story short an absolute piece of junk. with only 70 thousand miles it needed a timing chain which included removing the transmission and it was a 7k job. Also a myriad of issues like parking sensor wiring failed and interior was trashed with low miles. and all the tail lights were broken. make it make sense. went back to the auction
That head gasket needs a CC replacement.
When you buy a VW from a former Altima owner...
This certainly has some Big Altima Energy.....
Definitely purchased at a buy here pay here lot.
😂🤣 What is it about the Altima. Seems like they're all used and abused.
Had to google this Nissan, never heard it... but seems more a US maket car? My dad has a Nissan Primera 2010, not a good looking car, but reliable...motor seems simmilar long running as those in our 2 and 3 Golfs, Grüße ! Edit, but had lots of rust at the last TÜV also simmilar to a Golf3 😂Both modells need rust sealing
@@UsoundsGermany
Nissan Teana
In Japan, China, and other Asian markets, the L33 Altima became the third-generation Teana. The third generation Nissan Teana was introduced to Japan as a rebadged version of the North American Altima. In Japan, the Teana is offered in 2.5L engine with three different trims; XV, XL and XE.
I will never understand why people can't take even a little care of their vehicles. They spend crazy amounts of cash and proceed to just destroy them. Weird.
How you take care of something speaks volumes about peoples character and priorities. That applies to much more than just cars. If someones car is a junk heap with parts falling off, garbage and laundry on the inside, rolling around with bald tires.....can you imagine what their house/apt. looks like?
Hey @@MikeBaloga, this car is totally fine for hauling garbage and itself to the crusher.
It's the same reason people avoid maintenance that cost money money that they usually don't have because they probably got that car on a loan this is why 20-year-old sports cars when you have a clean well maintained relatively stock example of one they tend to be worth a bit because they tend to get bought up by people who can't afford the maintenance on them
This is a lot more common than I would like to believe. I have a 2015 Golf that I maintain meticulously and it looks like new. My coworkers never believe me when I tell them it's a 2015 and claim it looks too new for a car that is 8 years old. I came to the conclusion that most Americans are just slobs.
@@stcktrader Yep, same. My previous 2001 Golf TDI and my current 2015 Golf TDI are immaculate, and people always can't believe they're as old as they are. People just don't care about their vehicles. They always want the 'next thing'.
Crazy that such a relatively young car can be in such a horrible state
Pothead teenager's first car? 🤣
Mix someone who doesn't know shit about cars, care about maintenance (or by the looks of it much of anything), low income, and this is what you get.
Guaranteed the previous owner bitches about "those damn unreliable German cars"...
As someone with a CC this car is very much unreliable
@@alexanderpsaras5663 exactly why i got rid of mine, it was a 3.6 4motion and it was fun. Just hated trying to chase down the next thing
I love Nate's commentary. Just a constant state of "WTF am I witnessing?" 😂
I’ve purchased 2 CCs and regretted buying both of them. Side note, I have 2 CCs for sale if anyone is interested
lol had mine since 2016 78k miles bought since 20k no major issues just wear and tear items, people don’t know how to maintain these cars and it doesn’t help when vw says 10k oil changes are fine when they arnt. u bought lemons
Are those pictures current?
@@rjmarium, yes.. sure. Sort of. And check engine light is on because of a bad gas cap, I’m just too busy to fix it. My loss your gain. 😜
@@JamiesGarage1 No lowballers. I know what I have.
mine is currently making me regret this car as it sits with a blow turbo right now lol
Okay $1200 is too much and I’m only 7 minutes in the video. A marketplace gem 💎
the way this thing is clapped out exudes some BIG altima energy
Funny that just seems like a normal Volkswagen after 8 years here in New Jersey or Pennsylvania I'm surprised it's not straight piped and slammed with eBay fenders that have surface rust on them
@That V8 Life happens all the time That's what marketplace is like now when you're dealing with that cheap of a car it was like this on craigslist before as well nothing new
as an enthusiast and owner of 6 volkswagens throughout the last few years, i can say i fell head over heels with my 2008 Passat, and both the 2012 and 2013 CCs. broke my heart to see the condition of this car, but i love that you guys are continuing to educate on diagnosing and specific chassis issues 🙏🏻 was glad to see an older CC get picked up
Vr6 4mo Passat was a cool ass car with dynaudio and such
I agree. Car still looks great and modern, if you find one in a different condition than this one .. most have very high mileage here in Germany... But all motorway miles, so can last for a loong time.
They neglect the car for 10 years and be like, "VWs are so unreliable, I'm going to go buy a Toyota"
I have one and the amount of maintenance this car has over 100k is insane its just a car with a ton of problems
Ya bcuz u can neglect those with zero consequences.
Btw I'm german
a toyota would still be in better shape
You neglect a Toyota for 10 years, it will still probably drive. A VW won't.
@Noor Kareem not a modern one.
First!
Side note, I very much dislike working on CCs 😭 this video was like “average CC owner coming into the dealership for the first time” only to get [customer declined all work only wants oil change]
"DON'T TRY TO UPSELL ME!"
-Almost Every Customer Ever
And it's at the dealer because the customer just bought it and they haven't yet figured out that it's a wreck and they shouldn't take it to the dealer. Two hard lessons at once
It's a cheap luxury car this is completely normal there is a reason when normal people come to me for what car they should buy I recommend them a Toyota or a Honda and if they're buying you get the best warranty possible and follow it to a queue and then as soon as the warranties up dump it and go get another one
Paul is the hero we needed, but don't deserve. I would watch a series where Paul just inspects used VWs and Audis.
This!
Are there skodas in America?
@@bigmansir3745 nope
"man, thank God I unloaded that vw and never have to hear about it again"
Immediately gets roasted on a popular CZcams channel
I had a 2013 CC for 9 years and only thing I needed to worry was services. Overall quality was very good.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the ratchet straps holding the gas tank. Unbelievable. I just believe how badly the previous owner wrecked this CC. I can understand neglect and cars turning into filth buckets but this...this is on another level. Oh and that exhaust tip weld...holy crap!
Ratchet straps may have been put on after purchase or for drama...but if ya live anywhere near southern Indiana, west VA, Kentucky or Tennessee...it may be SOP!😂
Are you gonna do a series on completely fixing this this car? It'd be very interesting!
The emergency release had me in stitches; Paul is a very funny man
I had a 2011 VR6 CC. Loved that damn car. Makes me sad seeing neglected CCs.
Love my 14’ vr6
One thing I've learned in the handful of cars I bought. It 100% benefits you financially and mentally to judge the living hell out of the person selling you the car. Ask some basic questions about the car, do they have any clue how a car works? Look at how they dressed to meet a stranger, did they clean up a little or are they there in pajamas? Did you go to their house to see the car, what sort of shape is the house in? Do they just seem like an idiot in general? Is it a backhole dealership with tons of totaled mk6 GTIs, ccs, and other German cars in the back in south Atlanta where the only nice car around is driven by the guy selling a low milage mk6 for a questionably low price? Is that car dirty? Etc. All of these are important and not at all very specific questions that everyone should ask.
Also never buy a car from someone who smoked weed in the car. They're certifiably dumb. I enjoy as much as the next person but be an adult and smoke outside.
"This car was purchased by Devon, who works for us" - That had me checking my DAPRepair invoice. Phew.
Gotta love VW plastics and signature sagging headliner
Just done this job myself for same problem....had both an external and internal leak from those gaskets... Although nowhere near as bad as yours internally!I had just a bit of oil floating on top of the coolant but had a fairly bad external oil leak from both those seals. I didn't see your video before I did mine but it will be helpful to some people looking to do the same job so thanks for posting!
Bought a 2010 CC in 2018 and have been driving it since then. 135k when I bought it and it at 200k right now. Ever issue you said in this video is one that I have had to deal with on this car lmao. Headliner started falling, trunk wouldn't open due to the cable, and timing tensioner issues. Thing been a champ though. Recently had to rebuild the upper half after it destroyed the valves. Your TSI 2.0 timing video helped a lot with that. Love the car, insanely fun to drive.
Love my 13 CC, has done me great so far (knock on wood). I want to keep it as long as possible
Its amazing how much of this type of stuff is out there and on the road.
I have a CC, same model, well maintaned. Great car, never had any problem besides general maintenance
Thank you and hello from Berlin
I have the same car with same drive train! Glad to see the transmission (09g) holding up!
Would love to see you guys fix this car up if possible. Such a shame to see a nice car get so abused.
That timing chain is "21 jump street" styles Note to self..."don't buy a car off a burnout"! 🤣
I love my CC. Had it years and has cost very little really in maintenance costs. Now done 171,000 miles and still goes well.
I had a '09 CC for 5 months in 2014. The buy-here, pay-here dealer I'd bought it from messed up the paperwork from the prior repossession, and I got them to take the car back and return every penny I'd spent to buy it. Best day of my life, as the thing was starting to have electronic throttle body issues.
Its a EA888, its likely the piston rings causing the oil burning. The fact that it lasted 200k is a miracle. The racket straps were a nice touch. My barely maintained 87 Audi 4000 quattro had less bodge jobs then this car when purchased!
I love this guy's sense of humor 🤣 stay original
Always great to watch professionals who know what they doing,any advice for those of us who come from a different brand regarding which engines to avoid or which engines are, let’s say more reliable than other with VW Jetta/golf/cc or maybe even Audi?
That's a Passat CC... the CC came after this model :)
Love my CC. Did need to replace rear main and Waterpump, but Waterpump was under-warranty. Replaced all seals myself and the car runs strong with a stage 2 tune
Honestly I've been wanting a CC but hear they're total pains but they are soooo nice
I like how a lose battery ins't a problem in the US. Here (The Netherlands), it's an inspection failure
Don’t think they do annual inspections over in the US!
@john turner we do, it just depends on what state. I know for a fact California and New York have them. I know there are other states, but they are two of the most notable ones. Where I am, people have half of their cars rusted out and still drive lol
In a lot of states and some provinces you can buy a car and register it without any inspections ever.
Depends on the state some like California and New York in Vermont or more strict some do it once a year some do it every 2 years some states have no inspection at all because they view it as unconstitutional also some states allow you to not have a title if a car is over 30 years old
@@RyanRiopel for a lot of Americans I realistically think that's the only way they could afford owning a car like a coworker of mine had an early 2000s GM that was fairly good but the power steering rack went it cost $3,500 in a mechanic to replace that was more than what he paid for the whole car The car is worth maybe $1,200 in a good day
love your videos! however, it looks like it was apparent that there was hail damage in the photos, besides dont ever buy a car without seeing it in person first... and he would have had the opportunity to look underneath and see ratchet straps too.
I have a 2012 Seat Leon with a 1.4l 125hp tsi engine, owned it since new.
After a couple years I noticed the coolant slowly disappearing with no apparent leaks anywhere.
Eventually, coolant was going at a rate of 1 cup every week. Turns out that engine has a heat exchanger on the intake behind the turbo (thankfully) and that heat exchanger leaked. right into the cylinders.
seat is spanish for quality
its a fairly common issue on the 1.4 tsi if you work on them enough. ive replaced a handfull of them
This video made me realize how much good luck I've had buying marketplace cars
alignments are not necessary once a year. the only reason an alignment changes is from worn out components or damage, things that would not be fixed with just an alignment. it is however recommended to get the alignment checked when you put new tires on or if you notice a wear issue when you rotate your tires every 5k like you are supposed to
Always liked the look of the CC. Was looking into buying one about 5-6 years ago but found out about the carbon problem in the engine (was looking at used 2012-2015 CCs at the time).
What carbon problem?
@@eden20111those 2.0s are notorious for having problems I hear
Previous owner was a distinguished member of society, a highly respected and educated individual, back in his school day was always an honor student.
this car should be part of a series of videos. my daily is a 12 vw cc 6 speed.
My buddy’s parents bought a 13 CC last year. Within a week the a/c stopped working and then an injector stuck and hydrolocked a cylinder, Bending a rod. Used motor dropped in, dropped a valve and ruined that engine within 1000 miles. Actual new motor dropped in jow and it’s doing well. Jusy bad luck after bad luck lol.
I just purchased an obd11 to talk to my 2013 golf tdi im excited to give it a go
That model/gen of VW actually looks very nice
One thing I thought I'd never say
I had a B5.5 Passat. It always burned oil through the entirety of me owning it. What killed it was the plastic coolant hose that’s behind the engine exploding. But what sucked was that I actually really enjoyed that little car, and it’s left me wanting another VAG car but I need two other reliable cars before buying another old VW.
Daughter purchased program car, a lease return. She was told it was an 1990 model but she never looked at the title...it was older...with a v 6 motor...the car was built around that motor! It was a full sized sedan rode comfortably. Purchased with 55k on it if that's believable. Not dip stick for auto trans. When it got to around 80k told her she needed to purchase an Asian auto or the vw was gonna become a money pit. Then she got a campaign letter about her sunroof needing factory authorized repair. So even though the car had been thru a recent hurrican where local areas were flooded and her car remained dry she went into the nefarious claws of the local VW dealer in daytona, then located on west end of Mason Ave. They kept the car for repairs...then called told us the huge over sized battery that's was in great shape all of a sudden died. So we purchased a battery from local parts house at 1/4 the cost of what v.w. wanted and went on our way. Within days it rained and her car had 4-5" of water in it. Back to the dealer they said it was not their fault..😮 though no leaks were apparent until after they worked on it as a factory recall. Few weeks later she said dad check under my car it smells like hot grease...after inspection revealed a nice clean case cutter slice across the outboard CV joint bellows passenger side allowing grease to go everywhere. As a master ASE mechanic diesel gas med & heavy truck from experience knew C.V. boots never tear across bellows usually in the valleys...daughter called vw for bellow kit.
Nope only new half Axle at ruffly $500.00.
So to save her removed and replaced with after market for like 1/5th of quoted price...could not find a boot kit in our area. That sealed it. She traded for a Asian car and is still driving it today. German cars, unreliable when compared to asian cars. Plus require speciality tools, factory is slow to share pertinent information for repairs parts too expensive...their not the peoples car. They are for gear heads who live to twist wrenches or for folks who get a swelled head spending money on lots of German maintenence. Wouldn't own one if I won it happily sell it asap! Sadly VW lost its original mission statement years ago...
Ferdinand & Adolf must be rolling in their graves....😢
Been waiting for a video like this lol
Island gray, great color.
My first brand new car was a 2012 CC sport 6 speed in island gray. My third year working for VW haha.
I recently sold my 3.6 CC. They’re an amazing car!!
HOW MUCH?
@@german1980 I’m in Australia. Had 105K kms on it. $14,000
I've had the oil consumption/smoking problem on two of these engines from 2009. Try doing a piston ring soak with equal parts mystery oil and berryman B12. Soak it for a good 2 or 3 days while working on some of the other things. It's going to smoke like crazy once you put it back together, so take it outside (on a windy day). Good as new. Except for the rest of the car of course.
The gas can got a literal laugh out of me. Wow.
I love watching your videos bro I learn more every day ... what confuses me a little is the obd7 I bought it but I don't know how to use it if you could give me an explanation I would appreciate it .. blessings
turns out I have seen the "how to check timing chain" video back in 2021 as soon as I bought my mk6 GTI, and I didnt drove for a week till get the funds to replace it! it was 6.something! some people dont take care of their cars, its crazy, but your videos have helped me a lot! thank you as always, and im watching this for fun lol,
also my car is burning oil but I havent find the reason yet, using liquimoly 5w40 and adding 1L every 1300 miles, need to open the engine but not that good yet! any clue? no leaks, no codes, no wet oil on exhaust, just regular dry burnt oil on exhaust, no coolant being burned or smelled (did waterpump too) its literally just burning and no clue where, also from TX (150k miles stock engine, bought it at 108k)stock turbo from the factory still (might be turbo??), brand new PCV and i replaced 3 times already within 40k miles just to be sure it works, they were all good!
I love this channel 😂
I saw one of these for sale in a Pick N Pull junkyard in the rebuildable vehicles section, first time I’ve ever seen a car less than 10 years old there
Volkswagens are pretty good cars if they’re maintained well!
And the truth is that most people in America at least do not have a high tolerance for preventative maintenance. Especially here in the Northeast.
very pretty car.. but doing some checking i bought a 2014 ford fusion with the 2.0 vel engine.. se with lux packge and 18 inch wheels... has adjustable supension on it now and a tune..35 mog on the highway at 70, in cruse control... 0-60 now 5.7 seconds... nice looking car inside and out
Nice sense of humour
The underbody damage and the large red gas container for the trunk release also reveals the previous owner/driver was most likely legally blind!
When buying a used Vw/Audi just make sure to have a good spot to have it on jackstands for half the time
Or the owner happened to be Mr moneybags and just got everything fixed as soon as it broke and didn't even look at the bill
@@TwoDollarGararge That would be ideal
@@snoopy5736 have a Mark 4 2.0 golf 230,000 miles right now owned by an old lady clearly she just wrote a check for the parts bazooka every wear item and potential problem item is new if the mechanic didn't mess the belt up and bend some valves it would have been great
@@TwoDollarGararge I have an A4 B7 , oil pump balance shaft went out. 134k
Please do a Mini Series in you restoring the CC for the Work Friend...We are emotionally invested now...(Here in South Africa they discontinued the CC Couple years ago)
This car needs its own go fund me page.
haha yes!
I'm just wondering what the ad would look like, if you were to sell this car based on it's positives..
* Front shocks have no leaks
* Head gasket intact
* Factory alloy wheels
* Runs & drives ^
^ not recommended
Umm, did I miss any?..
For the burning of the oil. If there isn't much blowby in the cylinders, then the pcv system might not be the problem. The valve seals would be my next guess. If it was not the turbo seals letting oil burn up inside the turbo exhaust side. That car has def been hot rodded around. IMO
A vw with a broken trunk? Amazing
IMO, if you do this (put up a good picture and the car doesn't reflect that) immediately dropping the price lower than posted. Don't care if it's already dirt cheap or even if it's free, you now owe me money to take it.
6:15
_"this is jump.. city right now"_
Could've said _(21)_ jump street but I like the jumper movie reference. Good movie
Hilarious. By chance do you know the vcds block to check timing stretch on the gen 3 engines?
You guys can make a video with my gen 2 CC 😁 I’d love for you guys to have it
You see the type of pants the seller was wearing and it alllll makes sense lol
Bingo.
Please can I have a link to the OBDeleven timing chain check?
Valve guide seals will make a care smoke as well
Can't believe Paul would disparage my man with the jerry can trunk release by implying he just picked up some old stinky jerry can as opposed to buying a brand new clean one for this specific purpose, like any sane individual would.
Looks like a good...fair parts car, maybe.
Going out on limb to say the previous owner had an uncle who’s a tv repairman with an awesome set of tools.
I had my upper chain and tensioner replaced on my 2010 CC. No more P0016 but I’ve noticed that the phase position bank 1 is 8.00. Car runs fine thought. Any suggestions??
Nothing scares me more than a 3rd/4th owner CC or Audi.
This just seems like your typical luxury car eventually ends up in the hands with someone who can't afford to replace a single module in it and then people wonder why a nice one's hard to find 15 years later
Supertech oil is pretty good. It did very well in tests.
If you’re not doing a series on this car. Can we get some updates? I bought one for $800 with a VR6
What do you expect from a late modern vw for 1200?? it's a ghetto fabulous car
Good to know about the turbo/oil. I just did my 2013 chains this weekend, and noticed a small amount of oil in the pipe. I cant recall seeing any oil in the pipe of my 2014 CC when I did its chains two years ago. So naturally I feared the condition of the turbo on the 2013 is bad (138k).... but a small amount is ok? I'm relieved. Thx
Just check your PCV/oil separator parts first. They are plastic and fail after 10 years or so, and aren't that expensive. The oil in the intercooler can come from that. Or the turbo can be worn.
That control arm bushing is not a "later" thing . That is a now thing .
But that car is on the edge of parts only . I hope his employee discount is huge $$.
Is there any more of these in stock? Would like to place an order for a vintage vehicle like this one.
Bought a 2010 CC R line with 70k miles. Drove fine till 100k when transmission started to fail, had let it go. Everything working fine apart from some in or oil and coolant leaks. Never broke down on me lol
6:28 loving the Ginster in that picture
6:05 How did he get to this screen? The linked video is old and no longer matches the current build of OBDEleven.
Hi good day..I'm looking for help..I have a audi s3 2016..and my drivers side headlight is out..but the daytime running light is working..highbeam and lowbeam is not..is this car come with bulbs. Thanks
My friend had one of these for a bout a year after that he spent 3k fixing even after fixing all the issues it started again with another problem then another and it never ended after that he ended up trading in the car for a Kia stinger only time will tell how long the stinger holds up
I laughed throughout this whole video. It was also somewhat sad 😅
Paul I need to know, what type of gas was in that gas can?
I own a vw cc since 2009 and I had zero (0) problems.My only expense is premium gasoline and regular maintenance
What is PCV part number for 2010 Volkswagen CC sport 2.0 T 4 cylinder .Thank you.
Could the inner tyre wear be caused by the rear inner control arm bush wearing?
I'm wondering if the flex due to this wear might cause the front tyres to toe out when under load (high speed cornering, etc)?
Your opinion on this is appreciated, as most large VW's - Passats, Arteons, CC's, etc - all tend to wear the inside front tyres, regardless of regular alignments.
So what is the problem? Bad oil? I have 07 audi a4 that does smokes like this after warm up. Smoke smels like burnt rubber. Can't wrap my head around. Did same exact troubleshooting as in video. No check engine, engine has only 80k miles. Runs so quiet and smooth. Help please
Supertec oil doesn't smell different to other oils.. My guess is weed man put some scent in there
Its because he got high, because he got high, Because he got hi-i-iiii
Could it be oil control rings on that early TSI?
Ah yes. CC trunk wiring harness. Wonderful memories. Do not miss that car at all 😂