The ‘Middle Sector’ of India-China border & how new reinforced Army Corps can defend it better
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Indian Army has now 'combatised' its Central Command as counter to China along LAC. In Episode 1404 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta discusses the reasons behind it and how this can act as a deterrent to China's border claims.
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sir , news is great . But discussing our military posting and their future plans is not good. News is good, but giving enemy the entire plans of military for just views is anti nationalist .
Wouldn't it be great, if The Print could use more graphics while explaining CTC?
Budget to hona chahiya
@@shivmohan2982they don't get funding because they don't lick BJP's boots
@@yj9032 Its the BJP that is not allowing them to lick, otherwise these are the same people, who got Padma awards for licking and being loyal to Congress, let me remind you he was the same guy who broke the story of the Army coup, and Army spying on defense minister and TSD being a threat to the nation, which dismantled our intelligence set up over the world, Specially in Pakistan, which resulted in 26/11, even after govt investigation proving that all the allegations against army wrong this guy never apologized, i understand your one of the RAGA cock sucker, which puts personal egos ahead of the nation
You are talking like as if Congress doesn't lick Soros boot enough😂@@yj9032
@@yj9032No problem tough times when Congress comes to power they will get everything funds padmashree Rajyashaba seats too just be loyal to Soros
It is high time for India to encourage Tibetan refugees in India to form a government in exile and negotiate with them on making Tibet an Indian state.
Tibet and her people deserves to be independant, not change one master for another.
Tibetan Parliament in Exile (TPiE) is already in existence (headquartered at McLeod Ganj, Dharamshala,
Himachal Pradesh).
@@BeHarryOnSlaught fine .Let us recognise that officially.Simple
@@HarishankarPM If they so wish. Let us recognise independent Tibet.
I appreciate your sentiment but please do jeep in mind that India recognised Tibet as part of China under Atal ji in 2003. In return China recognised Sikkim as an integral part of India.
It's very heartening to see that the Government is looking at long term solution 👍🏽
First time Shekhar Gupta pronounced 'India-Tibet border'. This recognition helps understand that China is in a foreign and occupied land. This makes a more realistic understanding of the situation we are dealing with.
Until 2020 May, India believed China to be gentle giant, grunting now and then and not doing much to threaten us. Little wonder that entire stretch of northern border was sparsely covered by the army and other paramilitary forces. Perhaps Bharat is the only large country in the world with so much uncertain border with all the neighbours. I am glad that this government is alive to these weaknesses and taking steps to remedy them.
It was certainly a strategic mistake to think China would be gentle, given their history of violence and oppression. But to be fair this is an ideological mistake made since Nehru who wanted to emphasize pan-Asian solidary and anti-colonialism. The era of colonialism is long gone, now this is an era of great power competition.
The important thing to remember about great power competition is the importance of geography. History is replete with examples of established great powers and rising neighboring states engaging in conflict. The Franco-Prussian War, Russo-Japanese War, Russo-Turkish War, Great Northern War, etc are just some examples. Even the Arthashastra details something similar to this dynamic with the rajamandala and concentric rings of enemies and allies.
But there is one exception, one case where great powers are able to cooperate. And that is when they are separated by distance. Meiji Japan is a great example of this, they signed treaties with France and even formed an alliance with Britain. And outside of their direct conflict with Russia (neighboring Great Power) they only had cool relations with Germany, which had East Asian colonial ambitions. If we were to extend this to India's case, this would mean it should cooperate with the US and Russia to keep Asia multi-polar.
Meiji Japan carries a second important lesson. They were pragmatic, not ideological. It was largely through attracting foreign capital, adoption of Prussian technology, and educational exchange that Japan managed to modernize so quickly. It's previous isolationism left it as an undeveloped backwater but it was able to develop into an industrialized rising power in just a few decades using this strategy. Despite this affinity for Germany, they did not ally with Germany, but France and Britain instead.
The CCP also copied this technique and favored pragmatism over ideology. After the Deng Xiaoping era they have arguably had an ultra-realist foreign policy, without any trappings of asian solidarity or anti-colonialism. Despite the historical enmity with Japan and the use of anti-Japanese sentiment in CCP propaganda Deng built on the previous normalization of ties with closer relations in the 80s and 90s to attract FDI by Japanese businesses. In the North East he convinced many foreign Japanese firms setup manufacturing.
Deng and Jiang also strengthened relations with the US while using their understanding of its political systems to subtly blunt it's influence in Asia and shape its perceptions of the PRC. Despite the fact that they considered it the China's primary enemy from the very beginning, they deliberately encouraged deep US engagement.
The current trouble with China since 2022 May was invited by our Home ministers loose talks. While thumping the desk in parliament, after abrogation of article 370, he claimed that india will recover Akshaichin from China too. This statement spooked the chines and the rest is history known to all of us. Such strategic aims are not spelt out in advance till we are ready and sure to achieve.
Luckily for India, the Chinese mis adventure in the pacific and aggressive posture against many small countries helped us to gain the Confidence of USA. Beside the zero Covid policy and targeting the big companies in China helped multinational companies to vacate their investments in China and move elsewhere including india.
The British are the fathers of us Indians, if you don't admit that, then you must not be Indians
As an Indian, I admit that we annexed Kashmir, Sikkim, Manipur and Northeastern states because we Indians have too many children and we need more territory. In the future, we Indians will have 5 billion people, We must continue to expand our territory, including Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Tibet, and even the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and the United States..
Thanks for delving into such a strategic and important topic
Sg, excellent insights about our Armed Forces we need to know, else we civilians keep forgetting what role our Armed Forces do in maintaining the sovereignty and integrity of our country
"India-Tibet" border, "if you prefer to put it that way". Why? Never have I seen a Chinese commentator call Arunachal Pradesh as India, or would ever use the term "India border" when referring to Arunachal Border. But Indian colonized minds like to pander to "correctness" pushed into their heads by foreigners. Just call it Indo-Tibetan border all the time, Shekar. No guilt, no shame, no options - call it for what it is really and what a famed unit of Indian armed forces police are named after.
They don't have freedom to call it what they want. Shekhar is calling what it is for what it is de facto. Ofc Chinese commentators cannot use de facto terminology or else they will be fired.
Because india legally recognizes Tibet to be Chinese and China does not recognise arunachal pradesh as Indian.
@@rajsimhamv9045 Is there any need for a private media company in India to toe official Govt line? If so, does Shekar call India, Bharat?
@@siddharthgoyal4008 Is there any need for a private media company in India to toe official Govt line? If so, does Shekar call India, Bharat?
The British are the fathers of us Indians, if you don't admit that, then you must not be Indians
Quite an incisive and deep analytical presentation. Thanks SG. Your love for military issues and your deep understanding of it is admirable.
highly informative and relevant
Thanks Skekhar, loved it...
Thank you. Please keep up the excellent work kind sir!
Dear viewer,
Thank you for your generous contribution towards our journalism.
awesome!!!
@ShekharGupta can you please confirm the source of this news? Many friends of mine in MoD and AHQ deny any move by Govt to actively sanction this proposal though it has been in offing for many years now
Sir your explanation on the subject is much appreciated and filled with value added information as always, but highlighting the maps with respect to important passes, routes and landmarks will do much more justice.
I could listen to Guptaji narrating CTC for hours.
LOl. Did you also see a coup in delhi by Inidan army , alongwith Couptaji, the faKE NEWS PEDDLER ?
3:18 brigade 136 in pooh District kinnaur looking after Kinnaur and Spiti's international border along Tibet.
It is not Indo-China border. It is India-Tibet border.
Thanks for decluttering this important development SG sir. A small pojnt, 9:10 : Dehradun based corps may not be considered equidistant to both Garhwal himalayas and Kumaon himalayas as it is located in South West Uttarakhand. The Bareilly based corps in fact have better connectivity to Kumaon Himalayas and can act swiftly in the region as and when required.
Shekhar ji Pooh Kinnaur me hai not in Spiti
You seem to enjoy defence decluttering SG . A small tweak on paper but as you said, this reform will surely have an impact. Infra building surely has picked up, can u dedicate an episode on progress achieved on infra in various sectors, may be a collab with Snehesh ?
Shekhar G dancing in that fire.
Not only should there be military presence, there should be significant civil setup as well. With due considerations to terrain etc. Vacant places will always get interest of the enemy
Good direction
It's not a strike core...almost sounding like that in the explanation
Can you do it more grafiacally for better understanding
good
Can you please please please use more graphics on maps while explaining this... Really great explanation but not able to relate properly!!
Is't a mountain Corps? Why only two divisions; a Corps generally has three. Whabout Artillery( the most crucial)(will need an Artillery Division coz of d wide area of responsibility), armour, Engineers , logistics elements like ASC,EME Ord setup?
Interesting.
Good mov
Pooh is in Kinnaur SG.
Interesting move on the chessboard.
Interesting. SG keep on mentioning Tibet.
We love "Cut the Clutter"
We are the viewer of this programme, since we believed in the fourth pillar of the nation (unlike most of the mainstream media - people called Godi Media)
I wondered if you are still the media reporter!!!
These things shouldn’t be discussed on media. Which brigade located where etc etc
Would't it be fair to have a fresh CTC to have on Agniveer scheme specially considering the latest relevation by the ex general
Cut The Crap and let us know if CTC will speak about Sandeshkali at some point. Maybe when Mamta has ‘proof’ it’s all RSS saazish?
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3 Brigades make a Division HQs under a Major General. It is not called Core HQs.
Sir please explain all about army structure, names and other interesting stories regarding it in some CTC.
‘ The U.S. has enjoyed superiority in military technology since the end of the Cold War. But this edge is being rapidly eroded by its main rival, China, which seems determined to become a global leader in technologies such as artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) that could potentially revolutionize warfare.
As Beijing focuses on a defense strategy for what it calls the “new era,” the aim is to integrate these innovations into the People’s Liberation Army, creating a “world-class” force that offsets U.S. conventional military supremacy in the Indo-Pacific and tilts the balance of power.’
- The Japanese Times, 20 April 2023
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I have a request: please allow people to give their feedback to you in your website, just like what you encourage us to do in these CZcams channel videos.
That perhaps will encourage more participation and also to gauge the mood of the people in general. Forget the trolls and fanatics....
Pooh is in Kinnaur District of Himachal not in Lahul and Spiti .
Wong. Pooh is in Beijing.
Sandeshkhali video proves that why everyone in news media circle calls you trait0r 😂.
His did a fake story on our army trying to overthrowing indian government, ruined lives of our many loyal soilders, brought shame to army AND NOW HE'S DOING STORY ON ARMY ACHIEVEMENT? Irony 🙏
Please tell shekhar ji to send this irony to tmc party office for entertainment, in sandeshkhali, because he gave excuse his reporters didn't find anything on ground 😂
To settle the dispute we need to claim Tibet
Still no video on UK by his favorite peacefuls.
To stop Chinese Aggression.
Shekarji, What happened to converting Brigade/Division/Corps structure into IBG or group armies. Without this combined armed tactics needed for a future war cannot be perfected. 21st century tanks and infantry need to be fighting together with real time support from artillery and unmanned platforms. Also anti drone tactics.
IBGs are formed at division level, not corps level, they're already operational
I dont think all divisions are converted into IBGs. That needs notification from MoD for realligning Brigadier - Maj General - Lt Gen. Having a few IBGs within existing brigade and division structures is different from restructuring the army along IBG or group army structure. Till such time we cannot claim true combined arms capability across the army. NATO plus grade of armoured mobility for the infantry so that it can accompany the armour and dedicated artillery support and close air defence with EW capacities would be vital.
@@nicpirate007 there never was a plan to convert all Divisions into IBGs. only strike corps and a few pivot corps were to be organised into IBGs. regular pivot and hold formations will retain division structure for defensive tasks because IBGs are too small and lean to mount an effective bulk defence. China follows the same strangy. Regular divisions of Military districts for defence and Group armies for offence
Plus US is actually reconverting it's BCTs into fully integrated combat divisions because combined arms operations have a limitation when not supported by adequate reserve elements which BCTs lack , you see what happened with Russian BTGs and CABs right? Armies are now restructuring back to division sized units to meet the atteitional issues posed by CAB/BCT structures. South Korea has rejected the idea of downsizing of their existing divisions into BCTs.
No need to disclosure that deep information. Government should conduct detailed enquiry of the channel. The information may use Adversary of the country.
According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), 21% of the share of global VC investment in 2020 (most recent compilation) went into AI, an estimated $75 billion.
The United States and China attracted more than 80% of that global total - Who says there’s no AI war going on? - followed by the EU at 4% (mostly Germany and France), and then the UK and Israel at 3% each.
Discretion is the best part of valour..., it is good to be transparent, but giving military information on a platter to adversary needs discretion.
The Air Force is truly in a sorry state. Result of almost criminal mismanagement in planning at all levels. IAF needs to create more than 12 new squadrons to reach the sanctioned strength while having to retire all the squadrons using MiG21s. And the LCA Tejas cannot fulfil all these new requirements. Where will the new jets come from? What happens to Atmanirbhar? Three decade old LCA programme is now irrelevant. Who made these strategies? How did we land in this situation?
Sanctioned strength 42 squadrons when planes are 2 nd and 3rd generation. Now 1 su 30mki is equal to 10 mig 21
One sukhois can never have the air sortie presence or weapon carrying load of 10 migs. IAF truly has landed in a mess. Very soon Jaguars, mirages and mig29s will near end of airframe life. That will demand more replacement 6+3+4 squadrons. Even if we order rafale today we will be able to induct them only somewhere after 2028. PAF has multiple line of sight to induct 5th gen fighters. They can either procure from China or Turkey and that will be truly code red for IAF. I think IAF will end up acquiring Russian 5th gen fighter in a panicky response. HAL please surprise us; for mostly you are playing bluff😊
@@007skumarajay thanks for a ridiculous excuse 😂
1 sukhoi can never replace air sortie presence, weapons load and pilot redundancy of 10 migs. IAF is truly in a sorry state. It is going to get worse - Jaguars, MiG 29 and Mirages will reach end of life in less than 10 years. These will need replacement = 6 + 4 +3 squadrons. Even if we were to order rafales this year these wont be delivered till 2028-30 due to order queue at dassault. PAF on the other hand has two options towards 5th gen fighter - Turkish or Chinese. That will be code red for IAF. I guess IAF will end up buying Russian 5th gen fighters in panic . HAL please surprise us, as of now you are playing bluff😊
@@007skumarajay incorrect. In air operations one jet is equivalent to one jet only. 10 MiGs offer better redundancy and risk mitigation than a single Su30. So your comparison is not equivalent. Numerical strength always matters regardless of the generation of technology. And all of this is mostly due to delay in LCA project by more than a decade. Tejas would have been inducted in the early 2010s under competent leadership, and the fleet would have been eligible for significant modernisation now. It's my guess but not a single person at HAL or IAF has ever been held accountable for these inexcusable delays. I'm guessing because even if some people were punished such details wouldn't be released to the public.
Highly interesting episode .
Jai Jawan of Bharat 🇮🇳
Kindly, have an episode on The Bombay Plan & Swarajya Party. Please.
Hi Ankur,
Thank you for supporting us and for an interesting suggestion. We shall have our editorial team take a look at it.
"Indian Army is Territorial"... 😁 I see what you did there:P
Shekaarji is this not a give away? R u not educating the Chinese / Pak . Is this public domain item or u got a tip off? Really not sure
Can't you deliver the content crisp and clear instead of bluffing?
does this mean we are moving back from theatre command system?
No. A New Corps has been added . Theatre Commands have multiple corps under them.
@@ashnowluck ohk!
Is it good to discuss army infra in public???
Is this public knowledge if not should not be sharing on public forum.
Coupta ji commenting about the new Army Corps?! That's a real laugh 😂😂😂
Was thinking exactly the same thing.
Irony ho rahi hai ji bohot bhayankar. 😂
Onna side note, Please tell shekhar ji to send this irony to tmc party office for entertainment, in sandeshkhali, because he gave excuse his reporters didn't find anything on ground 😂
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Doklam does not share border with Sikkim
Think this info should be sensorrd
Why is This Government not Properly Funding Armed Forces properly ?
Any CTC on this ?
Budget of armed forces is 4th in the world but All money is being spent on salaries and pensions thanks to ORAP.
Tell govt of india China may enter through nepal and give the biggest surprise. So dont ignore nepal border also. In case of war coming through nepal even by invading nepal by force it will be much easier for china
Why are we discussing defense strategy so openly? Wouldn't this make it less effective?
This is public knowledge ..... SG is not exposing some inside info of army don't worry
Don’t have to broadcast public domain info
After long long time finally 1st view and 1st comment
Sir Pooh in Himachal is in Kinnaur area and not in Spiti. Facts check required!
Nothing analytical in this particular talk! Speaking about Brigades and Divisions and Corps with locations does not lend any insight into the overall strategic picture.
Please leave orbats of military to the professional as restructuring and structuring force levels remain a core competence area of men in green.
Shouldn’t this info be confidential?
Is there any clutter on this topic?
Public info dude. Building infrastructure can be seen and monitored from satellites.
@@vikramganasen what’s the clutter dude?
@@arunhuddar IF you understood Sekhar's explanation, then there's no clutter.
If the Chinese try to come to Delhi through Barahoti, then let the high and mighty Khattar govt. take care of them with all their bandobast.
Since, 2021, Army has started devolving counter insurgency operations to CRPF. That has helped Rastriya Rifles to focus on Border Security and Corps to focus on conventional threats.
Kya bakwas aur faltu info hai...!!
Kisne keh diya apko yeh , sir...??!!
Oh Come on...!! Its not prudent to comment confidently about things u have no idea or minimal idea.
Kindly donot comment without knowing facts. 🙏
@@BlackPanther-lx9we CRPF has published videos showing off their new QRF units in Kashmir. Please get your eyes checked.
Why don't you just hand over all army camp coordinates to enmy, in the name of journalism. As a knowledgeable man how could just give all these secret details
Very irrational question.
It'll be good if if can finally move away from the british martial race theory on which the army regiments are structured, but all these regiments have a storied history. So some sort of middle ground maybe.
And its not souped, its suped.
Gupta ke liye choti se baat hai ki sandeshkali mein women atrocities hui, multiple time hui, hundreds of women. Land degraded hui for land grab, ye sab choti baat hai left radical communist ke liye because that's how left radical communist do work.
N unkil u r updating yr owners
Y oo uuu tube is deleting comments again.
sir , news is great . But discussing our military posting and their future plans is not good. News is good, but giving enemy the entire plans of military for just views is anti nationalist .
Coup gupta n army 😂😂😂😅
Guptaji doesn’t tell who should be given credit for strengthening this Middle Sector.
Couptaji ... 😂
Shekhar ji, you leave your audience wondering whether “this is a good thing or a bad thing”, to be Centrist. But your Media company clearly takes the “Left” narrative.
Is this show the only money maker? If it is, why are your owned Channel’s journalists so “Left”? You should have them be centrist too, and then all of your shows will be the money makers.
BJP is much better than Congress. All these preparation should have been done long time back . Congress is waste.
Sab faltu baat hai . Make all army cores you want , biggest investment of China is in Gujarat lool . Kaam ki baat karo Gupta ji . Lal aankh can only fire at un-armed people
What rubbish..... you are revealing the security of Indian Army..
Somewhere , somewhere I think India and China have made a pact that they will play good cop bad cop across the world .
Don't hush-hush the analysis sir, how many places have you iterated in this video but pointed none on the map.. hire a good editor sir
Such a sexist ad. Shameful
SG is BAKWAAS Master, par excellence. HE SHOULD BE APPOINTED CDS PLUS NSA, BY ModAAni. Jai Bajrang Bali.
First comment
Is he a leftist, maybe pro congress?
A brigadier in army is as close to becoming a king in modern times
In Pakistan.
Thanks to Modiji ❤❤
Thanks to Modi’s brilliant unique strategy of pilots attacking when there are rain clouds ❤