Yasuyuki Muneta is totally built for Sasae. He's a short big dude in a weight class full of tall big dudes. His center of gravity is pretty much under everyone else's. He makes that throw look so easy. That video is my go to when I'm showing someone how sasae works
Thanks a lot! Great explanation in which you break down the throw in the little but essential steps. Especially the lifting and pulling part, which is needed to successfully take uke off balance, generally goes wrong, in my opinion.
Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. Yeah, from my personal experience learning and teaching the throw, that action is what people (including myself) most commonly struggle with, but as you say, it's a crucial part of the throw.
Yeah, how you break uke's balance and finish the throw off is a huge part. This is actually something i could have gone into more detail, but to save time I have Cody (my uke) stand square for both, however really for the Hiza you'd want your uke's leg back and for Sasae you'd want it forwards...this adds even more context to the differences.
For me, when I feel Uke's hand-pressure on my lepel(s)... that is "my moment" when I can decide to go for low knee wheel ( hiza ) or sasae. This is how it works for me!
Glad the video helped. Yeah, it can be interesting when you start getting into the classifications of techniques...for a long time I thought I had a really strong O Goshi, then I watched a video from a comp and realised I've been doing Uki Goshi all along.
Cheers Rex...yeah, that's a really common point with Sasae. It takes a while to dial in that coming under and driving up movement...keep working at it!
Good night. Im practice takedowns for self defense, im 64kg, my takedowns as basicly sacrifice. This one that u show its my favorite, if i take a heavy guy i trhow my self in the side, trhow him to the other side with my feet blocking his feet, after i jump on him. Can u show withou the gi? I also like double leg with the head in belly, its nasty and easy to do. Like the channel say, 'judo way of life' after all they create for selfdefense. Thanks, nice content.
The one of muneta it's [EDIT] SASAE TSURIKOMI ASHI. If Muneta call it like that, I'm no one to say otherwise* Said that, the biggest difference between the two are: HIZA guruma block the knee Sasae tsurikomi ASHI block the foot There is another significant; HIZA it's a throw based on blocking the motion foward and Sasae it's blocking the motion on circle. I understand the confusion, but the Sasae it's the tokui waza of My sensei.
Thank you for taking the time to reply Luis, however, I disagree with you about the Muneta throw being Harai Tsurikomi Ashi...he props the ankle, he does not sweep the legs...Harai Tsurikomi Ashi looks like this: czcams.com/video/4yyo2AVuytY/video.html Muneta brings his opponent to the front corner, where for Harai Tsurikomi Ashi, your opponents legs go backwards away from you due to the action of the sweep. You are correct about the different foot placement for each throw, but the actual throwing action is, in my opinion, the greater difference. For Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi, you lift and pull, as the name suggests, where for Hiza Guruma it is more of a wheel/circular movement.
@@TheJudoWayofLife hey, i'm going to agree with You about the Muneta's one. Checked about how he named and if Muneta says that it's sasae, it's sasae. Who am I to say otherwise? Anyway, to add, this is the best video I found about Sasae-Hiza difference. Thanks for reading me.
@TheJudoWayofLife yep. I'm dumb. It's the Kuzushi and where you block the leg. 😆 Is the supporting foot and a lifting pulling while Hiza is the knee and it's a wheeling motion. Thank for your help!!
Great breakdown, as a shorter heavyweight I wasn't terribly comfortable with these until I started hitting harder... more like trying to knock their legs out from underneath them rather than blocking even though that's not the proper Theory it seems to be much more effective for short powerful legs. Traditional Judo was not designed by large individuals so it takes some tweaking at the bigger weight classes
Sounds like you might be creeping into the realm of Harai Tsurikomi Ashi ( czcams.com/video/rb2Y_Q8FrgU/video.html ) if you're knocking (sweeping?) the leg back. Yeah, I think there's a sizable gap between traditional/grading style Judo and then what actually works for an individual in a practical randori/competition situation...as you say, it takes some tweaking depending on size, weight and also who your opponent is and I think sometimes, trying to always categorise what a throw is in competition can detract away from how impressive some techniques are!
@@TheJudoWayofLife Asian martial arts were designed for small framed people, wrestling and BJJ techniques translate far better for the really big guys but you can make judo work with some tweeking. Its all good till you have to do forms, thats when judo really shows its archaic mentally.
Yeah, I would say so...especially in competition. I think it's important to learn to differences and understand how each throw is performed and executed and then crack on in randori/competition with whatever you like.
@@TheJudoWayofLife makes sense and I agree with the latter sentiment in my personal experience whenever im competing in BJJ the techniques sometimes meld together because of the awkward placement both me and my opponent are in especially when exciting hip throw variations or foot sweeps, also great video gave you a sub!
With all due respect I think you're over complicating thing. You can't seriously believe that there are more differences between these 2 throws than similarities. I appreciate yhere ate alight differnces in the set up but basically sasae you block the ankle and hiza the knee.
Thank you for taking the time to write your comment. I thought the same as you for a long time...and I was wrong. After more studying, I learnt that the position of the foot is one of many differences between the two throws. I would say the only two similarities are the starting grip and that they are both Ashi Waza techniques. Both throws have different Kuzushi, Tsukuri and Kake. Understanding the differences is complicated but I hope this video has made them easier to appreciate and apply so people can do the throws correctly rather than wrongly assume that, basically sasae you block the ankle and hiza the knee.
I'm going to support the sensei on this one. The names of the throws themselves impy the differences beyond just blocking the knee or ankle. Hiza guruma, knee wheel. Your off balance occurs in the wheel like motion. Sasae, supporting foot lift pull throw. How much more simple does the description get there? The lift and pull action is the kuzushi.
Yasuyuki Muneta is totally built for Sasae. He's a short big dude in a weight class full of tall big dudes. His center of gravity is pretty much under everyone else's. He makes that throw look so easy. That video is my go to when I'm showing someone how sasae works
Muneta is my Judo hero! We're the same height/weight so its cool to see what techniques he can make work
Thank you very much! I had trouble comparing the two and your explanation made sense etymologically with the techniques name.
thank you this is very clear, much better than the Kodokans clarification
Thanks a lot! Great explanation in which you break down the throw in the little but essential steps. Especially the lifting and pulling part, which is needed to successfully take uke off balance, generally goes wrong, in my opinion.
Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. Yeah, from my personal experience learning and teaching the throw, that action is what people (including myself) most commonly struggle with, but as you say, it's a crucial part of the throw.
hiza and sasae had me scratching my head... thanks for making this information available.
I'm really pleased to hear that this video has been useful. Your welcome.
Fascinating. I have not thought about this difference in kuzushi before.
Yeah, how you break uke's balance and finish the throw off is a huge part. This is actually something i could have gone into more detail, but to save time I have Cody (my uke) stand square for both, however really for the Hiza you'd want your uke's leg back and for Sasae you'd want it forwards...this adds even more context to the differences.
For me, when I feel Uke's hand-pressure on my lepel(s)... that is "my moment" when I can decide to go for low knee wheel ( hiza ) or sasae. This is how it works for me!
Thanks I wasn't sure which one is which, now I know one of my favorites throws hiza guruma
Glad the video helped. Yeah, it can be interesting when you start getting into the classifications of techniques...for a long time I thought I had a really strong O Goshi, then I watched a video from a comp and realised I've been doing Uki Goshi all along.
Crazy good fun !
You are right. Great demonstration in this video. Lovely....cheers!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi David, thank you very much for the video and your explanation, the difference is clear for me now! 🙌👍
Awesome Alexandre...I'm glad to hear the video helped.
Excellent breakdown. I definitely do not lift enough with my Sasae
Cheers Rex...yeah, that's a really common point with Sasae. It takes a while to dial in that coming under and driving up movement...keep working at it!
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge in such a clear way :)
Thank you. It's good to hear you found it informative.
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Cheers.
Good night. Im practice takedowns for self defense, im 64kg, my takedowns as basicly sacrifice. This one that u show its my favorite, if i take a heavy guy i trhow my self in the side, trhow him to the other side with my feet blocking his feet, after i jump on him. Can u show withou the gi? I also like double leg with the head in belly, its nasty and easy to do. Like the channel say, 'judo way of life' after all they create for selfdefense. Thanks, nice content.
The one of muneta it's [EDIT] SASAE TSURIKOMI ASHI. If Muneta call it like that, I'm no one to say otherwise*
Said that, the biggest difference between the two are:
HIZA guruma block the knee
Sasae tsurikomi ASHI block the foot
There is another significant; HIZA it's a throw based on blocking the motion foward and Sasae it's blocking the motion on circle.
I understand the confusion, but the Sasae it's the tokui waza of My sensei.
Thank you for taking the time to reply Luis, however, I disagree with you about the Muneta throw being Harai Tsurikomi Ashi...he props the ankle, he does not sweep the legs...Harai Tsurikomi Ashi looks like this: czcams.com/video/4yyo2AVuytY/video.html
Muneta brings his opponent to the front corner, where for Harai Tsurikomi Ashi, your opponents legs go backwards away from you due to the action of the sweep.
You are correct about the different foot placement for each throw, but the actual throwing action is, in my opinion, the greater difference. For Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi, you lift and pull, as the name suggests, where for Hiza Guruma it is more of a wheel/circular movement.
@@TheJudoWayofLife hey, i'm going to agree with You about the Muneta's one. Checked about how he named and if Muneta says that it's sasae, it's sasae. Who am I to say otherwise?
Anyway, to add, this is the best video I found about Sasae-Hiza difference.
Thanks for reading me.
It's where you reap
There is no reaping action with either of these two throws. The reap action occurs in throws like Osoto Gari or Kosoto Gari.
@TheJudoWayofLife yep. I'm dumb. It's the Kuzushi and where you block the leg. 😆 Is the supporting foot and a lifting pulling while Hiza is the knee and it's a wheeling motion. Thank for your help!!
Great breakdown, as a shorter heavyweight I wasn't terribly comfortable with these until I started hitting harder... more like trying to knock their legs out from underneath them rather than blocking even though that's not the proper Theory it seems to be much more effective for short powerful legs. Traditional Judo was not designed by large individuals so it takes some tweaking at the bigger weight classes
Sounds like you might be creeping into the realm of Harai Tsurikomi Ashi ( czcams.com/video/rb2Y_Q8FrgU/video.html ) if you're knocking (sweeping?) the leg back. Yeah, I think there's a sizable gap between traditional/grading style Judo and then what actually works for an individual in a practical randori/competition situation...as you say, it takes some tweaking depending on size, weight and also who your opponent is and I think sometimes, trying to always categorise what a throw is in competition can detract away from how impressive some techniques are!
@@TheJudoWayofLife Asian martial arts were designed for small framed people, wrestling and BJJ techniques translate far better for the really big guys but you can make judo work with some tweeking. Its all good till you have to do forms, thats when judo really shows its archaic mentally.
@@guerrilla1044 I’m sorry but you really don’t have a clue.
@@jamesplease1980 what's your height and weight?
@@guerrilla1044 currently just under 6 feet and about 95 KG
Is it fair to say theirs a middle ground marriage of the two techniques where upon execution it's neither hiza guruma or sasae ?
Yeah, I would say so...especially in competition. I think it's important to learn to differences and understand how each throw is performed and executed and then crack on in randori/competition with whatever you like.
@@TheJudoWayofLife makes sense and I agree with the latter sentiment in my personal experience whenever im competing in BJJ the techniques sometimes meld together because of the awkward placement both me and my opponent are in especially when exciting hip throw variations or foot sweeps, also great video gave you a sub!
but what about de ashi barai?
What about it?
With all due respect I think you're over complicating thing. You can't seriously believe that there are more differences between these 2 throws than similarities. I appreciate yhere ate alight differnces in the set up but basically sasae you block the ankle and hiza the knee.
Thank you for taking the time to write your comment. I thought the same as you for a long time...and I was wrong. After more studying, I learnt that the position of the foot is one of many differences between the two throws. I would say the only two similarities are the starting grip and that they are both Ashi Waza techniques. Both throws have different Kuzushi, Tsukuri and Kake. Understanding the differences is complicated but I hope this video has made them easier to appreciate and apply so people can do the throws correctly rather than wrongly assume that, basically sasae you block the ankle and hiza the knee.
I'm going to support the sensei on this one. The names of the throws themselves impy the differences beyond just blocking the knee or ankle.
Hiza guruma, knee wheel. Your off balance occurs in the wheel like motion.
Sasae, supporting foot lift pull throw. How much more simple does the description get there? The lift and pull action is the kuzushi.