My aunts TC just died after many years! She was heartbroken. We hooked her up with a big Grand Marquis! My mother's cousin still has the Town Car, Cartier Edition!🚗
@@Gragon777 yes, im living in frankfurt now and i can actually compare the gas prices with here and the country i come from ( Albania ) there its like 30-40 cents pro liter
As a non American I always thought these were everywhere in the US and that anyone riding in these was the richest of the rich. Thanks to movies and political/law tv shows
Mostly people who were established in life and older bought these and garage them until grocery runs of doctors ✅ ups. Retired and these barely are driven so it's easy to find with low miles. Mines has 87k and I got it 5yrs ago with 78k and is 20yrs Essential. It's my 3rd TC and I gained respect cause my belated brother (retired cop) had a new white/blue top 92 but drove a crown Vic while on duty. They're earlier ones ran the 4.6 modular with 2 separate 4 plug but the 03 basically got the interceptor treatment from the P71 police package so it might not be fast as the Cobra but it's a reliable tank as long as the fluids are tended to. My bro was smart going for the tow car as his personal car especially when he explained it's a dressed up cop car 😊 So mines is the 1st model yr of the last run of the full frame cars offered from FORD. Also have the 95 Fleetwood too which was Cadillacs last full frame v8 car.
😂 They’re a steaming pile of shit. The only redeeming quality is the ease of service and reliability. Maybe they were cool back in the day, but today you can get a real luxury car like a 7 series, A8, S-class for the same price
@@prestonnewcomb5991 these seats don't need much defense, the leather does suck, but the cushions are amazing! Besides soft leather is for super cars you'll never drive because it's too easy to ruin.
My step-papaw had a blue 2003 Lincoln Towncar Executive. One of the many cars I learned to drive in and also grew up in when I stayed with him. I remember how clean he kept it and how comfy it was for me and my brothers in the back seat. Drove like a boat. My father said town cars were for old people "who like their suspension how they like their stool... soft" Miss you Papaw David
Here is my family story. When my family came to California from Korea in 2002, my dad bought a used 98 lincoln continental from an old lady. When we moved from Cali to Pennsylvania visiting multiple states and sight seeing all the famous cities like Vegas and National parks on the way and my dad drove the car all the way, up to Niagara, and we moved a year later again to Georgia, but not before driving all the way down to Florida Keys first. By 2016, the car had 390k miles on it and was still running decently until my brother got old enough to drive and rear ended someone while texting. Ever since then, the car started having issues and we had to let it go. My dad was really attached to the car and was very fond of it. Still hasn’t forgotten! I have been in many American, Asian, German luxury vehicles, but nothing ever came close to both ride quality and comfort. Especially the seats. Plush, comfortable, spacious yet enveloping. I would instantly fall asleep and not wake up for hours during the long drives across US. He drives a Porsche cayenne and it is a great car, but he wants to retire now and travel the country and the world with my mom in a very specific vehicle. I know he sacrificed a lot, is still working his ass off to provide, be the best husband and father, and I am grateful for the memories and the experience not many people have. It is my dream to gift him a Lincoln Navigator Black Label and travel the country once more. But first, I need to save up a little, before he retires in a year or two 😅
@@kosapat150 driving, in general, is the easy part. Learning how to drive on public roads is the teaching point, as you've gotta drive like everyone is out to kill you (at least here in the states). Dunno what your point was dude.
@@arlofs you’re right, he does currently own a Cadillac. I was going off of old information from when I used to read up on Buffet circa 2005. Looks like he owned that 2001 Lincoln Towncar for about ten years before auctioning it off to charity.
@@DJ_BROBOT should I send you a link to articles from the early 2000s stating that he had a Lincoln Town Car at that time or do you want to look it up yourself? It isn’t that hard. However if you know him personally I’ll defer to you on this matter instead. I won’t argue anymore with someone using all caps to make a point. Bow tie till you die right?
@@nikoking4839way too much for a 210 HP gas guzzling V8. You're gonna hate the taxes on it too. They're awesome and I'm proud to be an American that can enjoy these but... They aren't for Europe. Maybe Russia / eastern European roads for durability and cheap gas but even then... Why?
@@Joe-qd7kd eh, doesn't mean much no offense. Yours is turbo and high stress. The 4.6 is natural aspiration and low stress. Two entirely different concepts. If I turbo or supercharge the 4.6 it's gonna make 150+ extra HP when tuned right :)
@@Jimster481the older Cadillacs before the Northstar engine almost anyone who's gotten a modern Cadillac with a Northstar engine will say it was always having problems. Town car basically kept the same engine almost every year it was reliable and never changed even when something goes wrong it's not difficult to replace time consuming sure but you can do it yourself if you have the free time and patience.
Had 6-7 of those (Crown Vic's, Grand Marquis and Town Cars), and buying a 2011 Executive L next year for my business. Super reliable, inexpensive to fix, will run forever with good maintenance.
Town Car, Grand Marque, Crown Victoria, last great full size sedans. Wish these guys were still in showrooms. Owned 3 Crown Vics and say what you want about Ford but the Crown Vic doesn't fail on you. Mine were ex police vehicles that were already put through the wringer and then I put them through the wringer myself and they just kept chugging on.
These babies have been known to do half a million miles as service vehicles. For something American made that isn't a diesel, that's an impressive feat.
@@mattc9875 Depends which older Explorer you're referring to because the 3rd gen ones were very prone to transmission failure. A solid motor don't mean much if your transmission drops.
@@ROCKSTARDETAILING I have a 2007. It was nice until a deer decided he didn’t like it. My financial situation wouldn’t allow me to fix it at the time. It’s still parked in the yard. It’s been sitting about 3 years. I’m going to see if I can get it started. If I can, I might still fix it.
The Panther Platform is iconic and was built to last. The Mercury Marauder is one of my favorite cars. Unassuming, all black, subtle badging, and packs a serious punch. A true sleeper.
Even an old 1980's Town Car is a great luxury car. I had an '84, and really enjoyed driving it, especially on long road trips, and it got 22 mpg on the highway. Even as big as it was, our 3 kids out grew the back seat, so we sold it and bought a mini-van. The teenager who bought it keeps it looking and running like new. He really enjoys the car also.
1998 Mercury Villager mini van. We gave it to a friend a few years ago, and it is still running. It has 3 rows of seats, and that stopped the fights between the kids on trips.
03 was the best year for them too, I have an 03 Town Car that I just did a trans fluid change on. over 365,000 miles and the trans pan came off for the first time yesterday! The little yellow indicator plug was still In there and the trans fluid filter was dated for 2002 when It was built! This thing Is a tank and has very few issues In It's lifespan. Best 1,800 ever spent easilly. I've even T boned a chevy tahoe once In It and It drove off without even a cracked headlight, just a messed up grille and bumper. Buy one while you still can and DON'T modify It! Mint condition townies are getting rarer and rarer and these things are becoming real classics! Anything 03-11 will be one of your finest purchases ever. Hands down.
Damn gov't CAFE standards say not going to happen. Why almost all new are trucks and SUVs. That will only last a few more years, then onto micro cars or electric.
That has nothing to do with it. The old body on frame design was going to need massive upgrades to continue to pass crash safety standards. @@free2chasehappy
I’m 26 and I still have my moms 2004 Lincoln Towncar!! It’s got 86000 miles and runs like melted butter!! ❤❤amusingly roomy and the suspension is amazing!!and it’ll still make a cross country trip easily without any hiccups !!
My mom has always driven these, recognized the interior instantly! They really are nice, reliable cars. Hers has lasted her almost my entire life and she always points out how they're not making them anymore.
I was thinking the Grand Marquis but, same thing lol. Honestly I have to agree, my current job grants me access to all sorts of vehicles and these are surprisingly luxurious. They are very comfortable cars.
I have a 1981 Lincoln Continental and a 2003 Navigator, and I must say the luxury for the money is massive! Reliable with the big V8 engines, nice sound proofing, and the 1981 Lincoln has a comfort standard you will never forget when you sit in the bench couches and float over the bumps like it's nothing🥰
That’s a good story! I had a 1981 Ford LTD that used to drive and ride just like a cloud, beautiful, with a 302 motor in it, and lots of space to easily work on the motor. Believe it or not your 1981 Lincoln and my 1981 LTD were both “Panther Platform”
Use to Rent these all the time to go out of Town in the early 2000s smoother than a Cadillac really felt like a hour into whatever trip you went on you was guarantee to go to sleep just get you a neck pillow and a cover😂😂
The grand marquis and town cars are so underrated. It’s hard to really explain to people how amazing these cars are in a world of plastic cheap feeling cars. So solid, so comfortable, so reliable. And great for date night… ;)
The car in the video is at least a 2006, as the gauge cluster has a tachometer. Heated seats were available all the way until the model was dropped. The 2001 however, is the first year for the fabled “L” editions. Wonderful machines, they are!
@@TheUnsureFox ya. Definitely the newer style. I like the earlier ones though because they still have the steering box and the old dash seems less crown Vicky to me. Lol. I just know after 2001 heated seats were standard. Winters are cold where I live and it would be nice. Oh well. Life’s rough. Get a helmet.
I knew what it was by the steering wheel and the wand shifter. When you mentioned the back seat, I knew you were referring to the L model. I've been wanting to get one for months now. Same platform as the Crown Vic and the Grand Marquis. I've owned a few Panther cars. They are incredible.
I recently picked up a 13 Ford Edge limited. 3.5L awd, panoramic sunroof, all the bells and whistles, in way better condition than expected, 208k miles, $2200! I've got some big plans for it 😏
My grandma has one. She's had it since like 2002. Everything still works perfectly. She had a coil pack go out and I think she had a short or her fuel pump had an issue because she drives so infrequently.
killing the panther platform was the dumbest move in modern automotive history. FoMoCo had the limousine, rental car, taxi, and law enforcement market on lock. All they needed was an upgrade which they already had. They had the marauder with the more powerful V8 and the lincoln already had the long wheel base. Just start making all the lincolns long wheel base put the more powerful V8 in all lines put a six speed automatic and 6 speed manual in the marauder or SS edition FoMoCO could have kept dominating the marker for years.
I have a Mercedes. But I remember when my brother-in-law bought a town car; it felt like riding on a pillow. Something about the air suspension made my GL have a serious competitor. 😂
I love these cars so much. I bought a 2001 cartier as my first car, and since then I've bought two more 90's ones. Got all 3 of them for less thank $10k total, and they're all in really good condition with low mileage. Seriously slept on cars these days, they ride like a dream and have never left me stranded in almost a decade of driving them.
I lived in NY and took Gypsy cabs all the time until as a born and raised NY during the 80's up until 2013 when i finally moved permanently every time i see a Lincoln Town car it bring back many good memories of the city that never sleeps
Lol the Lincoln town car. You got me on that. I was figuring you would say Hyundai or something like that. I would never thought you would let me know how good the cab that's picking me up in an hour is.
We had an 03 Towncar for years and I kept up with it. Wife didn’t want it anymore but I pushed off selling it for a couple more years until a couple months ago. I loved that car for sure
I love my 2004 Red Lincoln Ultimate Town Car. It has been a good car. The only issues I've had is a new alternator and that the previous owner tried to do a sparkplug job and I had to deal with the consequences. Blowing a sparkplug is never a good feeling... Still, only 500 bucks for some repairs and it's been flawless since then. My mechanic is a friend and took pictures for me. The previous owner had obviously been doing his own maintenance and barely knew what he was doing. Thankfully, parts for the Panther Platform Cars are very very common and he had the parts in the shop. Most of the things he replaced, I wasn't charged for. He just wanted to take pictures for his buddy that races Crown Vics. I've been taking my vehicles to this mechanic for years and he's always done right be me. Good ones are hard to come by. The 4.6L is a good engine, but it isn't perfect. They have some issues that have needed to be resolved. That being said; they are known issues and are nowhere near as expensive as other platforms to fix. Also, they are relatively easy to work on for basic maintenance. Just do not do what my car's previous owner did and guess. Use instructions and you will do just fine. Replacing an alternator for example is just $100ish and about 10 minutes of work. Super easy!
I have one. Great car but what do you mean underrated? This whole platform was used everywhere. From cop car to taxis and the Town Car was a popular luxury rental / airport limo. Not to mention their popularity in the middle east
These and the Buick Park Avenue with the 3.8l from the late 90s/early00s belong to a class of extremely underrated and incredibly nice reliable sedans that people overlook because of their 'grandparents car' image. While people are fighting to overpay for toyotas and hondas you can get a literal luxury car from the same era for cheaper.
My grandpa had one, and i remember trying to sell it for like 6k and having trouble selling it even at that price. They are comfortable cars, but tough on gas and the AC always broke in it
@@upactive1365Can tell you've never driven an old Lincoln. My 88 was still to this day the most comfortable and smoothest riding car I've ever been in... I've driven cars that cost more than you'll make in a lifetime.
I've had over 12 cars in my life. I had a 1978 lincoln mark. Till this very day, it was the best and smoothest riding car I ever owned. I've had Cadillacs, buicks, and other lincolns. That 78 mark beat them all!
The Lincoln Town Car is a great car and one of the best used luxury cars money can buy. This right here is a what a true luxury car is. It's more luxurious than any Lexus.
My father got a new Lincoln every 2 years. He would hand it down to wife and family members. They lost their trade-in value pretty quickly but they were trouble free every one.
One of the best real American cars made during its run. Neither a hot rod nor an over stuffed luxury lounge of great expense. Too bad the Panther platform reached the end of the road. Now if we can keep Cletus from buying up all the good ones that are left and destroying them at his freedom factory crashing events.
What year is it and what model I always wanted one of these cuz they r so comfy. I live in the Bronx NY and the cabs used to be these and I would feel like I was on clouds and it’s so nice a quiet. I wish they would come back out with cars like these
I love Lincoln. Lincoln is my all time favourite American luxury brand, along with Buick; but there is no way Lincoln’s seats would be more comfortable than that of a RR. Rolls Royce is in another league of its own.
Its the same basic design that BMW had. That little lever is completely hidden when the when the hood is fully shut, but pops out when you pull the release inside the car.
As Chris said, it's hidden normally. Since he was filming a video he pre-popped the hood from inside the car as normal before he started filming so he could just hop out and pull the secondary release you saw sticking out. Gotta save time where you can when you're trying to squeeze your whole video into 60 seconds.
As soon as I saw the clock on the dash, I knew it was a Lincoln Towncar. Pepsi-Cola executives were given Towncars to drive, and my father loved it. I can honestly say these were the best driving cars... They actually floated across the road.
I drive a 2013 Lincoln Mkz and I love it. Those old town cars are tanks. My uncle used to have one and didn't take care of it at all other than changing the oil whenever he felt like it. That thing ran smooth as hell and potholes felt like pillows.
this "tank" myth needs to end. the MKZ is a tank in comparison and will easily tear into the thin panther. look at how awful it was when T boned in IIHS, and in offset the A pillar shifted only at 40.
Just incase anyones wondering I have a Lincoln town car LS 2005 which would be roughly the same as the 2003-2011 models, heres some pros and cons Pros: Fast Dead silent engine and exhaust Seats are insanely comfortable Great stock speakers Engine that lasts 400,000 average My car has 170,000 miles and you cannot feel the gears shifting, its amazing Now i dont have an extended wheel base, i have the smaller model, but im 6'2, i can fit comfortably in the driver seat with the all the way back, and if i sit behind the drivers seat with it all the way back, my legs still have about an inch of leg room. Automatic opening and closing trunk door Price, you can find these on average for $1500-$5000 Cons They're old, age makes issues Handle screws come loose, not horrible, just retighten, but it can be annoying to deal with Sometimes the interior door hinge plastic holding the screw in place breaks and makes the handle loose and hard to open the door, just put a large washer in-between the plastic and the screw and your set. The seal for the rain brain under the hood is made of foam and will deteriorate, which causes the back seat footwells to flood with multiple inches of water whenever it rains, easy fix, super annoying to deal with. But its a 20 year old car, its fine. The oil dipstick location actually pisses me off, its hidden on the underside of the right aide of the engine, you cant see it unless your looking for it. Gas, i drive atleast an hour a day for work, school, gym, etc. so i go through one tank a week generally, that my friends is a 20 gallon tank, and averages 17 mpg. $60 a week to fill up. But i have actually gotten it up to 25 mpg on highway. Results: Love my car, all cars have issues but once you get any big issues that your Facebook marketplace seller forgot to tells you, its just basic maintainence all year long. I hate how expensive the gas is, so a good alternative for a similar look and feel is the buick lasabre, its v6 and gets closer to 25-30mpg. Looks more like a grandpa car tho. I love the extra features, the feel of the engine, the way the air suspension feels like a cloud, the sunroof, etc. Literally my only complaint after i fixed the main issues that the guy who sold it to me didnt tell me about, is gas. Everything else is amazing.
Ford Crown Vic disguised as a short limo
It's a Mercury
@@rabyboy2844it's a Lincoln
Guys. It's all 3.
@@rabyboy2844 Its a Lincoln Towncar
It's all 3. Mercury is a slightly fancier crown Vic and Lincoln is slightly fancier Mercury..
Best cab car when ur drunk feels like ur on clouds with the air suspension 😂😂
My aunts TC just died after many years! She was heartbroken. We hooked her up with a big Grand Marquis!
My mother's cousin still has the Town Car, Cartier Edition!🚗
Sooo true but the cloud fantasy breaks once u get to the drunk tank 😩😂
@@johnboyjr21 had those cab driver gave me a bag and I still missed the bag 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yea the air suspension is amazingly smooth.
Classy lincoln driver
Bro, in my country driving a 4.6l v8 is gonna leave you bankrupt
same here
lpg is the way to go bro, in my country its 30 cents per liter.
one lpg conversion costs from 1000 to 2500$ dollars and lasts forever with the right service.
Lpg is nice if its cheap. In Germany we went from 45 cents to 1€ right now :/ still cheaper then gas 1,70€
@@Gragon777 yes, im living in frankfurt now and i can actually compare the gas prices with here and the country i come from ( Albania ) there its like 30-40 cents pro liter
I own a 2010, has 650,000k on it and still running strong. Extremely cheap to maintain as well. Great comfortable ride!
Cheap to maintain compared to European luxury cars maybe
As a non American I always thought these were everywhere in the US and that anyone riding in these was the richest of the rich. Thanks to movies and political/law tv shows
These were everywhere in the US for a long time.
Mostly people who were established in life and older bought these and garage them until grocery runs of doctors ✅ ups. Retired and these barely are driven so it's easy to find with low miles. Mines has 87k and I got it 5yrs ago with 78k and is 20yrs Essential. It's my 3rd TC and I gained respect cause my belated brother (retired cop) had a new white/blue top 92 but drove a crown Vic while on duty. They're earlier ones ran the 4.6 modular with 2 separate 4 plug but the 03 basically got the interceptor treatment from the P71 police package so it might not be fast as the Cobra but it's a reliable tank as long as the fluids are tended to. My bro was smart going for the tow car as his personal car especially when he explained it's a dressed up cop car 😊 So mines is the 1st model yr of the last run of the full frame cars offered from FORD. Also have the 95 Fleetwood too which was Cadillacs last full frame v8 car.
😂 They’re a steaming pile of shit. The only redeeming quality is the ease of service and reliability.
Maybe they were cool back in the day, but today you can get a real luxury car like a 7 series, A8, S-class for the same price
Nah man. It's either a Grandma, or someone who can't afford anything more expensive.
@@PapiAndreyclearly you have never owned a car 🥱
"The seats are more comfortable than a Rolls Royce"
_presses in on the hardest, thinnest leather Ford could buy_
The vinyl sucks, but underneath the seats are amazing. The cushion matters more than the cover 90% of the time.
Firmness of leather is usually a good sign, and too much softness is not good. Do you remember the awful "Nappa leather" in Chrysler era Mercs?
@@prestonnewcomb5991 these seats don't need much defense, the leather does suck, but the cushions are amazing! Besides soft leather is for super cars you'll never drive because it's too easy to ruin.
@@death32815it very could well be my memory failing, but when my dad had one about 10 years ago, I remember the leather actually being quite decent
I was thinking my mom's Taurus😂😂😂!
My step-papaw had a blue 2003 Lincoln Towncar Executive. One of the many cars I learned to drive in and also grew up in when I stayed with him. I remember how clean he kept it and how comfy it was for me and my brothers in the back seat. Drove like a boat.
My father said town cars were for old people "who like their suspension how they like their stool... soft"
Miss you Papaw David
They are nice cars till this day, Rip to your papaw 🙏🏼
Here is my family story.
When my family came to California from Korea in 2002, my dad bought a used 98 lincoln continental from an old lady.
When we moved from Cali to Pennsylvania visiting multiple states and sight seeing all the famous cities like Vegas and National parks on the way and my dad drove the car all the way, up to Niagara, and we moved a year later again to Georgia, but not before driving all the way down to Florida Keys first.
By 2016, the car had 390k miles on it and was still running decently until my brother got old enough to drive and rear ended someone while texting. Ever since then, the car started having issues and we had to let it go.
My dad was really attached to the car and was very fond of it. Still hasn’t forgotten!
I have been in many American, Asian, German luxury vehicles, but nothing ever came close to both ride quality and comfort. Especially the seats. Plush, comfortable, spacious yet enveloping. I would instantly fall asleep and not wake up for hours during the long drives across US.
He drives a Porsche cayenne and it is a great car, but he wants to retire now and travel the country and the world with my mom in a very specific vehicle.
I know he sacrificed a lot, is still working his ass off to provide, be the best husband and father, and I am grateful for the memories and the experience not many people have.
It is my dream to gift him a Lincoln Navigator Black Label and travel the country once more. But first, I need to save up a little, before he retires in a year or two 😅
Same flashbacks from childhood with my grandpa on the 3-wheels Soviet bike.
You need to learn driving an auto? 😂😂😂
@@kosapat150 driving, in general, is the easy part. Learning how to drive on public roads is the teaching point, as you've gotta drive like everyone is out to kill you (at least here in the states). Dunno what your point was dude.
Fomoco’s Panther platform is one of the best automotive designs in history. Total workhorses.
There is a reason why Warren Buffet always had a Towncar. The man knows a good deal when he sees one.
Are you sure? I’m 99.99% he owns a Cadillac Deville/DTS.
@@arlofs you’re right, he does currently own a Cadillac. I was going off of old information from when I used to read up on Buffet circa 2005. Looks like he owned that 2001 Lincoln Towncar for about ten years before auctioning it off to charity.
He always had a Caddy...NOT A TOWN CAR
@@DJ_BROBOT you can look it up online. It’s easy to find that he did have a Town car in the 2000s.
@@DJ_BROBOT should I send you a link to articles from the early 2000s stating that he had a Lincoln Town Car at that time or do you want to look it up yourself? It isn’t that hard. However if you know him personally I’ll defer to you on this matter instead. I won’t argue anymore with someone using all caps to make a point. Bow tie till you die right?
These are getting rare now, especially if not bagged out. Same with all Panther platform cars, they are slowly disappearing from our roads.
They're getting away abroad. It's nice, looks nice, and in Europe it's a rare exotic. I'm thinking about one myself 😂 they go around 3-10k€
@@nikoking4839way too much for a 210 HP gas guzzling V8. You're gonna hate the taxes on it too. They're awesome and I'm proud to be an American that can enjoy these but... They aren't for Europe. Maybe Russia / eastern European roads for durability and cheap gas but even then... Why?
@bldontmatter5319 it's crazy what they can pull off, this is a 4.6 v8 with 210hp, meanwhile I have a newer vehicle with a 1.5 4 cylinder with 200hp
@@Joe-qd7kd eh, doesn't mean much no offense. Yours is turbo and high stress. The 4.6 is natural aspiration and low stress. Two entirely different concepts. If I turbo or supercharge the 4.6 it's gonna make 150+ extra HP when tuned right :)
Good
Panthers are the best cars ever made. Love mine. Wouldn't trade it for a Tesla.
Id hope you wouldnt trade so much as a penny for a tesla.
@jaydonthomas427 what if you cold buy a tesla for 5 bucks new would you do it
@@agame-jv6zv I wouldn't buy it for a dirty sock
@@jaydonthomas427 how much would tesla have to pay you to drive it. How much would you consider
@agame-jv6zv enough for my son to get into a top tier college and buy a house.
Best generation seats hands down. Now I want one
Those Lincolns ride like a Cadillac without the Cadillac headaches too
No Cadillac headaches
Depends on the Cadillac. Many Cadillac's ran great!
Air ride in the Lincoln is a better ride than a Cadillac. If the rear has regular shocks it's equal with the Cadillac!
@@Jimster481the older Cadillacs before the Northstar engine almost anyone who's gotten a modern Cadillac with a Northstar engine will say it was always having problems. Town car basically kept the same engine almost every year it was reliable and never changed even when something goes wrong it's not difficult to replace time consuming sure but you can do it yourself if you have the free time and patience.
Had 6-7 of those (Crown Vic's, Grand Marquis and Town Cars), and buying a 2011 Executive L next year for my business. Super reliable, inexpensive to fix, will run forever with good maintenance.
Town Car, Grand Marque, Crown Victoria, last great full size sedans. Wish these guys were still in showrooms. Owned 3 Crown Vics and say what you want about Ford but the Crown Vic doesn't fail on you. Mine were ex police vehicles that were already put through the wringer and then I put them through the wringer myself and they just kept chugging on.
They’re amazing, Acura RL’s and Lexus LS’s are in the conversation too
@@brendanb3257Lincoln, Cadillac > Lexus, Acura
I've always had a crush on the Mercury Marauder! 😍
Wow, someone who finally spelled wringer correctly. Kudos to you. 👏
Wait until you find out that they kept making similar cars for the Australian market until 2017
This car is 10 out of 10 for sure because it’s pretty.
Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car are all the same car just different levels of luxury.
These babies have been known to do half a million miles as service vehicles. For something American made that isn't a diesel, that's an impressive feat.
Certainly is!
Same as older Explorer, Tahoes, Buicks w/the 3.8 V6 and Saturn S-series vehicles w/the 1.9L engine from the 90s.
@@mattc9875 Depends which older Explorer you're referring to because the 3rd gen ones were very prone to transmission failure. A solid motor don't mean much if your transmission drops.
Shit even diesels don’t do that these days without thousands upon thousands in repairs, but mostly because of emissions bullshit
@@mattc9875Exploders as we techs used to refer to them at work?
This is definitely an underrated car. Wanted one when I was 16! 25 now & still would get one.
U should definitely get one.... I finally found one almost two years ago and I'll never sell it
@@ROCKSTARDETAILING I have a 2007. It was nice until a deer decided he didn’t like it. My financial situation wouldn’t allow me to fix it at the time. It’s still parked in the yard. It’s been sitting about 3 years. I’m going to see if I can get it started. If I can, I might still fix it.
Do it, I got myself a Grand Marquis and haven’t had one regret
I had a 97 Lincoln town car but always wanted this one.
25 with a 2010 black on black. Ppl always stare and ask "wait you drive that?" lol expecting a 80 yr old or mafia boss to get out.
The Panther Platform is iconic and was built to last. The Mercury Marauder is one of my favorite cars. Unassuming, all black, subtle badging, and packs a serious punch. A true sleeper.
Range rover
Marauder is slow as shit compared to modern cars...
@@theautumnwind2152 would it perhaps be because it was made in 2004? I’d say that’s probably why. This is quite literally common sense.
@@jordanvannortwick9426 it *was a sleeper for it's time sure.
It packs an 8 second 0-60 and a pos 4 spd automatic 😂 Nothing sleeper about that
It is so easy to recognize Ford products.
Arguably the most reliable domestic vehicle ever made
That’s for sure! This and the Crown Vic.
*the most reliable vehicle ever made
Mercedes-benz 190 can make 3 or 4 million kilometers for more than 30 years. All you need is to switch a batery and regular oil and tire changes.
@@mrgurulittle7000this is a crown vic. all it is is a rebadge and nicer interior/air suspension
@@FNDMAthat’s not domestic
I knew what it was just by the gauges
Fr, almost instantly. Absolutely unforgettable car
I already knew by the steering wheel
The radio for me
Yea the radio and gauges are good clues. I knew by the door panel though. Saw it so many times as a kid....
Gauges, steering wheel, column shifter… come on if you don’t know what this is by now 😭
town cars really were great. my dad had a few. great cars to go on long drives also
My son had one, over 250k miles. Ran great
Even an old 1980's Town Car is a great luxury car. I had an '84, and really enjoyed driving it, especially on long road trips, and it got 22 mpg on the highway. Even as big as it was, our 3 kids out grew the back seat, so we sold it and bought a mini-van. The teenager who bought it keeps it looking and running like new. He really enjoys the car also.
Which mini van?
N they take off easily hit 130 with ease n ur riding on clouds
yeah@@cjd2275
1998 Mercury Villager mini van. We gave it to a friend a few years ago, and it is still running. It has 3 rows of seats, and that stopped the fights between the kids on trips.
@@garylangley4502 love that van!
03 was the best year for them too, I have an 03 Town Car that I just did a trans fluid change on. over 365,000 miles and the trans pan came off for the first time yesterday! The little yellow indicator plug was still In there and the trans fluid filter was dated for 2002 when It was built! This thing Is a tank and has very few issues In It's lifespan. Best 1,800 ever spent easilly. I've even T boned a chevy tahoe once In It and It drove off without even a cracked headlight, just a messed up grille and bumper. Buy one while you still can and DON'T modify It! Mint condition townies are getting rarer and rarer and these things are becoming real classics! Anything 03-11 will be one of your finest purchases ever. Hands down.
You T-Boned a Chevy Tahoe and drove off? 👮♂️
@@SweetPappyJones 😂
How do people modify Town Cars? Why bother?
@@Area_man115Paint it candy red and put it on swangas, welcome to Houston
2003 is notoriously garbage
The panther platform is the most reliable vehicle on the road
You may say crown vic… But when he removed his hand to get out of the vehicle, you can see there is a lincon emblem.
Best car platform ever! Imagine if Ford actually bring this back! The comfort, reliability, and joy to drive is second to none.
It wont be the same.😢
@@noconsentgiven unfortunately. They will never bring it back, too good of a platform will cut into profit as it doesn’t have to breakdown often.
Yea if you want it all to be aluminum
Damn gov't CAFE standards say not going to happen. Why almost all new are trucks and SUVs. That will only last a few more years, then onto micro cars or electric.
That has nothing to do with it. The old body on frame design was going to need massive upgrades to continue to pass crash safety standards. @@free2chasehappy
I’m 26 and I still have my moms 2004 Lincoln Towncar!! It’s got 86000 miles and runs like melted butter!! ❤❤amusingly roomy and the suspension is amazing!!and it’ll still make a cross country trip easily without any hiccups !!
How much do you want for it?..lol
Facts
How much you selling it for
Lmao, you guys.
@@skratchmyass lol 😂 not for sale bud!! I’m too in love!!
I always think of my grandparents when I see this car.
Excellent ride until the air ride suspension blows out!
Cheap fix
Not all of them were on air ride :)
Air suspension hardly blew out, and the air suspension is extremely easy to fix, parts are like a $100 and it requires very few tools
My mom has always driven these, recognized the interior instantly! They really are nice, reliable cars. Hers has lasted her almost my entire life and she always points out how they're not making them anymore.
Lincoln town car, the BEST LUXURY SEDAN TO Own till this day 👍👏🏼🔥
I love these cats and Lincolns in general the Mark IV is one of my faves
I was thinking the Grand Marquis but, same thing lol. Honestly I have to agree, my current job grants me access to all sorts of vehicles and these are surprisingly luxurious. They are very comfortable cars.
The back seats on these are the most comfortable thing I’ve ever sat on, it’s incredible
I have a 1981 Lincoln Continental and a 2003 Navigator, and I must say the luxury for the money is massive! Reliable with the big V8 engines, nice sound proofing, and the 1981 Lincoln has a comfort standard you will never forget when you sit in the bench couches and float over the bumps like it's nothing🥰
I miss my ‘76 Continental - it had that same feeling of floating over bumps!
@@1stCorinthians2_14had an 84 Continental with the air ride and the ride was incredible. Better than any caddy I've ever been in.
That’s a good story! I had a 1981 Ford LTD that used to drive and ride just like a cloud, beautiful, with a 302 motor in it, and lots of space to easily work on the motor. Believe it or not your 1981 Lincoln and my 1981 LTD were both “Panther Platform”
Panther platform started in 1979 and ended in 2011, that's correct.@@royjohnson465
SO BEAUTIFUL....I LOOOOVE. THESE CAR ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Use to Rent these all the time to go out of Town in the early 2000s smoother than a Cadillac really felt like a hour into whatever trip you went on you was guarantee to go to sleep just get you a neck pillow and a cover😂😂
The grand marquis and town cars are so underrated. It’s hard to really explain to people how amazing these cars are in a world of plastic cheap feeling cars. So solid, so comfortable, so reliable. And great for date night… ;)
Hahahaha thought I was the only one who knew that lmao
That back seat has plenty of room😂
PLENTY...of room😜♥️😂!!
Road head!
Nothing like a cozy bench seat
I am an mn12 fan boy and have owned many 94-97 thunderbirds over the years. Wouldn't think twice about a panther. Gotta love the 4.6l v8.
Actually one of my dream cars on my bucket list.
Engine lasts forever. One of the best cars Ford built
I have an 01. Last year heated seats were an option. :( love it though. Powerful. Good on gas easy to work on and reliable. Plus good heat. Love it.
The car in the video is at least a 2006, as the gauge cluster has a tachometer. Heated seats were available all the way until the model was dropped. The 2001 however, is the first year for the fabled “L” editions. Wonderful machines, they are!
@@TheUnsureFox ya. Definitely the newer style. I like the earlier ones though because they still have the steering box and the old dash seems less crown Vicky to me. Lol. I just know after 2001 heated seats were standard. Winters are cold where I live and it would be nice. Oh well. Life’s rough. Get a helmet.
...and they'll run forever, if properly maintained.
I own a 06 crown vic police interceptor. Great car!
The 4.6, almost no performance, low economy, buy god damn it runs forever. One of the greater boat anchors ever created.
I knew what it was by the steering wheel and the wand shifter. When you mentioned the back seat, I knew you were referring to the L model. I've been wanting to get one for months now.
Same platform as the Crown Vic and the Grand Marquis. I've owned a few Panther cars. They are incredible.
Thats rad man !!!
I had a '07 Executive L and my sons were in love with the back seat lol. You really feel like you're in a mini-limo.
I knew it was a Town Car right away...
These cars were extremely durable and if I wanted anything with some class this would be on my list above all else.
I recently picked up a 13 Ford Edge limited. 3.5L awd, panoramic sunroof, all the bells and whistles, in way better condition than expected, 208k miles, $2200! I've got some big plans for it 😏
Town car!!!! That was my first car, I loved it. Super easy to work on, cheap parts etc.
What year was it?
Easier than lexus and acura?
@@jasonn4597yes
@@jasonn4597yes a lot easier i have a lexus n there expensive to fix than the panther platforms
My grandma has one. She's had it since like 2002. Everything still works perfectly. She had a coil pack go out and I think she had a short or her fuel pump had an issue because she drives so infrequently.
killing the panther platform was the dumbest move in modern automotive history. FoMoCo had the limousine, rental car, taxi, and law enforcement market on lock. All they needed was an upgrade which they already had. They had the marauder with the more powerful V8 and the lincoln already had the long wheel base. Just start making all the lincolns long wheel base put the more powerful V8 in all lines put a six speed automatic and 6 speed manual in the marauder or SS edition FoMoCO could have kept dominating the marker for years.
The one thing I disagree with about this car is it’s not reliable at all. My grandma had one and it had issues all the time 😂
Driving a Town Car should be on everyone's bucket list.
I have a Mercedes. But I remember when my brother-in-law bought a town car; it felt like riding on a pillow. Something about the air suspension made my GL have a serious competitor. 😂
You had me at kleenex holder.
Once I heard that part it was a done deal, looking for one now
I love these cars so much. I bought a 2001 cartier as my first car, and since then I've bought two more 90's ones. Got all 3 of them for less thank $10k total, and they're all in really good condition with low mileage. Seriously slept on cars these days, they ride like a dream and have never left me stranded in almost a decade of driving them.
I lived in NY and took Gypsy cabs all the time until as a born and raised NY during the 80's up until 2013 when i finally moved permanently every time i see a Lincoln Town car it bring back many good memories of the city that never sleeps
Lol the Lincoln town car. You got me on that. I was figuring you would say Hyundai or something like that. I would never thought you would let me know how good the cab that's picking me up in an hour is.
I feel like the XG350 was supposed to emulate the town car a little, although I have only seen them in photographs
We had an 03 Towncar for years and I kept up with it. Wife didn’t want it anymore but I pushed off selling it for a couple more years until a couple months ago. I loved that car for sure
Got mine for $1750 from a friends coworker, 10/10 do recommend, and honestly ford made the rear brake pads and rotors super easy to replace.
Panther platform Towncars, Grand Marquis and Crown Victorias will literally run forever.
I love my 2004 Red Lincoln Ultimate Town Car. It has been a good car. The only issues I've had is a new alternator and that the previous owner tried to do a sparkplug job and I had to deal with the consequences. Blowing a sparkplug is never a good feeling...
Still, only 500 bucks for some repairs and it's been flawless since then. My mechanic is a friend and took pictures for me. The previous owner had obviously been doing his own maintenance and barely knew what he was doing. Thankfully, parts for the Panther Platform Cars are very very common and he had the parts in the shop. Most of the things he replaced, I wasn't charged for. He just wanted to take pictures for his buddy that races Crown Vics. I've been taking my vehicles to this mechanic for years and he's always done right be me. Good ones are hard to come by.
The 4.6L is a good engine, but it isn't perfect. They have some issues that have needed to be resolved. That being said; they are known issues and are nowhere near as expensive as other platforms to fix. Also, they are relatively easy to work on for basic maintenance. Just do not do what my car's previous owner did and guess. Use instructions and you will do just fine. Replacing an alternator for example is just $100ish and about 10 minutes of work. Super easy!
I concur whether you buy Grand Marquis the Town car or the Crown Victoria. Take care of them and they will last a looooooooong time.
Agreed
I had a Lincoln MKS fully loaded the comfort was amazing it even had massage seats
The greatest town car generation 90-97
Nothing beats the Panther platform
I have one. Great car but what do you mean underrated? This whole platform was used everywhere. From cop car to taxis and the Town Car was a popular luxury rental / airport limo. Not to mention their popularity in the middle east
Yes I love these especially the long wheel base!! I have one lol
Best suspension ever! It's like you're gliding.
Also the front seats can move all the way forward and leaves lots of space in the rear seat.
These and the Buick Park Avenue with the 3.8l from the late 90s/early00s belong to a class of extremely underrated and incredibly nice reliable sedans that people overlook because of their 'grandparents car' image.
While people are fighting to overpay for toyotas and hondas you can get a literal luxury car from the same era for cheaper.
yeah, cheaper for sure. but at the cost of a major safety trade off.
@@parodylover999Park Aves or Town cars are a safer vehicles to be in a major crash than a 2020 Corolla.
@@PrimePriusNo.
I had 2 of them with almost 400k miles. Love Lincoln. I wish they keep making them.
I love a Lincoln! My first vehicle was a 1985 Lincoln Town Car the Cartier and it was awesome I will always miss it.
My grandpa had one, and i remember trying to sell it for like 6k and having trouble selling it even at that price. They are comfortable cars, but tough on gas and the AC always broke in it
Didn’t even need to see anything past the first frame to know that’s a Panther platform.
Livery cab. One of the Best car ever made.
Idk about the best car ever made LOL but a great car for sure
@@Eric_Bassett it’s a top contender. I had a relative with one of these. It’s like a rolling living room.
@@Tainoblazed fair they are pretty nice as a platform, I was just never a huge fan of the looks.
It's my Grandmother's car. It's a Lincoln, you're welcome.
Looks exactly like my 05 she’s beautiful
My grandparents own an ‘85 town car and it is one of the nicest cars I’ve ever been in
That’s crazy this is one of the best cars u have ever been in 😂
@@upactive1365Can tell you've never driven an old Lincoln. My 88 was still to this day the most comfortable and smoothest riding car I've ever been in... I've driven cars that cost more than you'll make in a lifetime.
@@MI2APatriotLincolns to this day still have some of the nicest interiors and comfy backseats
I've had over 12 cars in my life. I had a 1978 lincoln mark. Till this very day, it was the best and smoothest riding car I ever owned. I've had Cadillacs, buicks, and other lincolns. That 78 mark beat them all!
The Lincoln Town Car is a great car and one of the best used luxury cars money can buy. This right here is a what a true luxury car is. It's more luxurious than any Lexus.
My dad always had a crown Vic or grand marquis in the late 80’s though the 2000’s. He loved these cars. He probably owned 4 or 5 in that timeframe.
My father got a new Lincoln every 2 years. He would hand it down to wife and family members. They lost their trade-in value pretty quickly but they were trouble free every one.
One of the best real American cars made during its run. Neither a hot rod nor an over stuffed luxury lounge of great expense. Too bad the Panther platform reached the end of the road. Now if we can keep Cletus from buying up all the good ones that are left and destroying them at his freedom factory crashing events.
I knew it was a Lincoln TC once I saw the clock in the middle😂
Great cars, Rode in one and the sits are amazing
These things are awesome. The pinnacle of Lincoln, can be had for dirt cheap, and they run for absolutely ever.
What year is it and what model I always wanted one of these cuz they r so comfy. I live in the Bronx NY and the cabs used to be these and I would feel like I was on clouds and it’s so nice a quiet. I wish they would come back out with cars like these
Town car all day.
I love Lincoln. Lincoln is my all time favourite American luxury brand, along with Buick; but there is no way Lincoln’s seats would be more comfortable than that of a RR. Rolls Royce is in another league of its own.
They actually ride pretty smooth
No surprise the panther platform is unmistakable.
Elephant in the room:
what's with the hood release?
Its the same basic design that BMW had. That little lever is completely hidden when the when the hood is fully shut, but pops out when you pull the release inside the car.
As Chris said, it's hidden normally. Since he was filming a video he pre-popped the hood from inside the car as normal before he started filming so he could just hop out and pull the secondary release you saw sticking out. Gotta save time where you can when you're trying to squeeze your whole video into 60 seconds.
That body style was nice when it first came out .😊
As soon as I saw the clock on the dash, I knew it was a Lincoln Towncar. Pepsi-Cola executives were given Towncars to drive, and my father loved it. I can honestly say these were the best driving cars... They actually floated across the road.
Don’t get normies buying up our panters 😭
There is a guy in my neighborhood with 7 in his driveway. Doesn’t sell them, just keeps them.
wait, Kleenex in the back seat? 🤨 They really did think of every use case, didn’t they
😂
I drive a 2013 Lincoln Mkz and I love it. Those old town cars are tanks. My uncle used to have one and didn't take care of it at all other than changing the oil whenever he felt like it. That thing ran smooth as hell and potholes felt like pillows.
this "tank" myth needs to end. the MKZ is a tank in comparison and will easily tear into the thin panther.
look at how awful it was when T boned in IIHS, and in offset the A pillar shifted only at 40.
Just incase anyones wondering
I have a Lincoln town car LS 2005 which would be roughly the same as the 2003-2011 models, heres some pros and cons
Pros:
Fast
Dead silent engine and exhaust
Seats are insanely comfortable
Great stock speakers
Engine that lasts 400,000 average
My car has 170,000 miles and you cannot feel the gears shifting, its amazing
Now i dont have an extended wheel base, i have the smaller model, but im 6'2, i can fit comfortably in the driver seat with the all the way back, and if i sit behind the drivers seat with it all the way back, my legs still have about an inch of leg room.
Automatic opening and closing trunk door
Price, you can find these on average for $1500-$5000
Cons
They're old, age makes issues
Handle screws come loose, not horrible, just retighten, but it can be annoying to deal with
Sometimes the interior door hinge plastic holding the screw in place breaks and makes the handle loose and hard to open the door, just put a large washer in-between the plastic and the screw and your set.
The seal for the rain brain under the hood is made of foam and will deteriorate, which causes the back seat footwells to flood with multiple inches of water whenever it rains, easy fix, super annoying to deal with. But its a 20 year old car, its fine.
The oil dipstick location actually pisses me off, its hidden on the underside of the right aide of the engine, you cant see it unless your looking for it.
Gas, i drive atleast an hour a day for work, school, gym, etc. so i go through one tank a week generally, that my friends is a 20 gallon tank, and averages 17 mpg. $60 a week to fill up. But i have actually gotten it up to 25 mpg on highway.
Results:
Love my car, all cars have issues but once you get any big issues that your Facebook marketplace seller forgot to tells you, its just basic maintainence all year long.
I hate how expensive the gas is, so a good alternative for a similar look and feel is the buick lasabre, its v6 and gets closer to 25-30mpg. Looks more like a grandpa car tho.
I love the extra features, the feel of the engine, the way the air suspension feels like a cloud, the sunroof, etc.
Literally my only complaint after i fixed the main issues that the guy who sold it to me didnt tell me about, is gas. Everything else is amazing.