I just upgraded to the Fujifilm X-H2S. I will use my Ninja V with the Fujifilm X-T3 and just use a CF express card on the X-H2S instead of buying one more Ninja. So Fujifilm saved me a lot of money by adding an CF express card holder to the camera. The one thing that I find very annoying with Atomos is that the list of supported SSD only contains very old and now very expensive SSDs. Many of them are no longer produced.
@@EwanLim An example. A Kingston DC500M 1,92 GB is on sale on Ebay Germany for 415 euros. There is only one seller for this item and he only have two in stock. These recommended SSD for Atomos have become terrible expensive as they are no longer produced. You are left with very expensive options from sellers which produce the SSD which does not stick out of the Ninja body. I can get a 2TB CF express card with 10 years guarantee for 515-530 euros from 5 sellers in Germany. Best prices use Geizhals or Idealo.
Yes I totally agree - theses days I am so used to shooting in 4K and 8K - which is why my key interest is using this as a viewer for cameras that don't have a better viewing option. On the FP L - I will recording to CinemaDNG - my gold standard now.
@@EwanLim I use a Velocity Cine 128Gb Pro Master V90 Code 7419 SD card - it is the ONLY SD card which I have been able to record 8 bit CDNG - no real need for 12 bit.
I got a used ninja V (the older 5” version, not the update) for $200-300, and it can do pro res 4k, so the 1080p60 is a baffling choice for a $400 video monitor/recording. I get the new Átomos Ninja V (which retails for $600) isn’t in everyone’s budget, but I feel like getting a used version makes more sense than the Ninja phone.
Maybe they are afraid this will cannibalise the Ninja V+ - I can't stand those units - big and clunky with a FAN! I can't see any reason why they couldn't just dispense with HDMI and just use USB-C - now that would be true innovation. Good video Ewan!
dude this is meant for a cloud workflow you would never send 4k to the cloud like thats, and if you are like streaming you don't stream 4k live anyway.
Thats good I'm sure you have. But heres the thing most of the stuff you shoot in 4k isn't captured at 4k or is down res'd to 1080. Especially in remote field work. And most of the time 4k content isn't broadcasted or viewed in 4k. Not all the time but more often then you think.
this product is not intended to be you main record. It is meant for a remote contribution work flow. Which is never done in 4k. It's always a proxies if the final delivery is 4k it might but swapped out with the camera raw records but more often then not they are left at 1080.
brah. well… internally record 4k and record 8k in-camera while using it as a recorder? that would depend on ur camera. normally able to do it on Sony cameras. Canon gets a bit iffy.
Prob market strategy. How is streaming free on cell data or subscription? Does it have airglu timecode to connect to server record control to multi set up. If so would it limit your resolution on the other cameras?🤷🤔
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I just upgraded to the Fujifilm X-H2S. I will use my Ninja V with the Fujifilm X-T3 and just use a CF express card on the X-H2S instead of buying one more Ninja. So Fujifilm saved me a lot of money by adding an CF express card holder to the camera. The one thing that I find very annoying with Atomos is that the list of supported SSD only contains very old and now very expensive SSDs. Many of them are no longer produced.
how much is a 512GB esata ssd on ur side of the world?
@@EwanLim An example. A Kingston DC500M 1,92 GB is on sale on Ebay Germany for 415 euros. There is only one seller for this item and he only have two in stock. These recommended SSD for Atomos have become terrible expensive as they are no longer produced. You are left with very expensive options from sellers which produce the SSD which does not stick out of the Ninja body. I can get a 2TB CF express card with 10 years guarantee for 515-530 euros from 5 sellers in Germany. Best prices use Geizhals or Idealo.
Yes I totally agree - theses days I am so used to shooting in 4K and 8K - which is why my key interest is using this as a viewer for cameras that don't have a better viewing option. On the FP L - I will recording to CinemaDNG - my gold standard now.
i don't have the ssd space for CinemaDNG. Unless I get higher paying clients. hahaha
@@EwanLim I use a Velocity Cine 128Gb Pro Master V90 Code 7419 SD card - it is the ONLY SD card which I have been able to record 8 bit CDNG - no real need for 12 bit.
I got a used ninja V (the older 5” version, not the update) for $200-300, and it can do pro res 4k, so the 1080p60 is a baffling choice for a $400 video monitor/recording.
I get the new Átomos Ninja V (which retails for $600) isn’t in everyone’s budget, but I feel like getting a used version makes more sense than the Ninja phone.
atomosd customer service does not exist its a shame 5 years ago company was good
Maybe they are afraid this will cannibalise the Ninja V+ - I can't stand those units - big and clunky with a FAN! I can't see any reason why they couldn't just dispense with HDMI and just use USB-C - now that would be true innovation.
Good video Ewan!
pretty sure cannibalising their other recorders is a concern. I gave it some thought and heating issues might be a possibility.
dude this is meant for a cloud workflow you would never send 4k to the cloud like thats, and if you are like streaming you don't stream 4k live anyway.
bro. I've worked on broadcast 4k. But I guess this is meant for more online streaming, like multi-stream to different platforms straight at HD.
Thats good I'm sure you have. But heres the thing most of the stuff you shoot in 4k isn't captured at 4k or is down res'd to 1080. Especially in remote field work. And most of the time 4k content isn't broadcasted or viewed in 4k. Not all the time but more often then you think.
this product is not intended to be you main record. It is meant for a remote contribution work flow. Which is never done in 4k. It's always a proxies if the final delivery is 4k it might but swapped out with the camera raw records but more often then not they are left at 1080.
Hi if i do t want to record and use it only as a monitor anydown side to it i can record on camera 4 k and 8 k
brah. well… internally record 4k and record 8k in-camera while using it as a recorder? that would depend on ur camera. normally able to do it on Sony cameras. Canon gets a bit iffy.
@@EwanLim hi I do use the Sony Alpha 1
Wonder if this could be used just as a viewer for my Sigma FP without attaching a battery to the NP but instead USB-C power from camera or V-Power.
You can actually. There’s another app that does this as well.
@@EwanLim Thanks - which App are you referring to? for the Sigma FP?
@@JM-xl3ijoh i was thinking of filmic pro but that is as good as dead now.
I meant using an app to tether iOS with FP L. the only thing I can find is capture 1. but it does not give live view for FP L. PITY
Prob market strategy. How is streaming free on cell data or subscription? Does it have airglu timecode to connect to server record control to multi set up. If so would it limit your resolution on the other cameras?🤷🤔
definite limit on other cameras. I think their idea is for people to connect to wifi.
Wonder if 4K is a future firmware update? Seems to be quite the limit otherwise.
i sure do hope so. most people still do stream in HD which is the market they seem to be aiming towards.
@@EwanLim what socail plateform can you stream 4k to and who would use 4k for a proxie workflow in a remote production workflow, thats nuts.