lazer updates - April 19, 2023
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peppy and pishifat walk through some of the most recent changes in lazer!
lazer is the next major update to osu!. learn about it: • what is lazer?
00:00 double time score multipliers
01:07 the editor!!
03:02 small stuff
03:40 hotfixes and renderers - Hry
I think the 1 degree rotation would be convinient enough for mappers instead of 0.1 degree. 15 degrees feel very restrictive yet 0.1 feel stupidly precise
As a person who is never going to use this feature anyway, yeah I agree!
maybe 3? it's a factor of both 15 and 18 too
@parzy_osu I agree if people *really* want one degree shifts they should just edit the file manually
@parzy_osu I agree if people *really* want one degree shifts they should just edit the file manually
Rather than limiting it and have the mappers edit a text file by hand, we could have different modifier keys that allow for different degrees of precision
Like for example: holding the control key while rotating for 15° snaps, alt for 18° snaps and shift for granular, precise adjustments of 0.1
Handy because you don't need to open a separate dialog for it or lower your mouse sens wayyy down, and it is relatively easy to pick up, if it works for digital audio workstations it could work in practice for Lazer.
just my two cents.
I think a rotation like Blender does (being able to hit R and type a number manually) would be very nice.
That's the really obvious and effective option I feel like. There's even room for an easily accessible text box in the inspector. Perhaps there's even a possibility to add profiles that you can conveniently click on directly
I agree!
That’s how it is in current osu too sooo
first thought when i saw it !!
absolutely, the more degree of precision and reliability that mappers are given, the happier we'll be
That feeling when you making maps all your life only to have pishifat delete it in his video xDDD 3:34
Hi, just wanted to say that yes, the flash warning does help in some cases for people with epilepsy. Please do not remove it entirely. I think it should be disabled on a map with background video and storyboard disabled and only play once per map per session. I would also like to add that seeing the flash warning at the beginning of a replay can be very helpful when people post clips online, because even though someone with epilepsy can disable the storyboard and video and use a non-triggering skin, that warning is basically the only heads up you get when youre watching someone else
I understand that it may be annoying for replays that start while the warning is still showing so I think it'd be best to have it as a toggleable option (on by default) and/or have the symbol fully fade out before approach circles are drawn. lower AR can be hard to read with the 3, 2, 1 and flash warnings still present
I think the epilepsy warning should just be when you launch the game
Honestly though. I think pretty much every rhythm game should just have an epilepsy warning at the start. Even better, since I'm sure those with epilepsy are sensitive in different amounts, there could be a setting that allows the user to configure just "how much" flashing they can take before a warning should appear. But obviously I don't know very much about this, so I'm probably just missing something.
I think there should be one at the beginning of each map if storyboard is on, but it should definitely be a toggle
the 15 degree rotation seems restricting for mappers, it could be nice to have the box able to type in or even a dropdown to choose your own rotation degree choice
Thats why he said they'll probably let you change the option in the future basically like you suggested.
15 degrees is for farm mappers
yes, it's way too restricting, one of the reasons why I do not like the osu lazer editor.
The feature I want from osu!lazer the most is probably per map gameplay settings... Some of the older beatmaps have terrible hitsounds, so I disable beatmap hit sounds. However, this setting applies system wide and I have to turn it back on again when I switch to a map that has acceptable sounds. Same for other settings such as colors and background dim and...idk
Ive finally switched to lazer thanks to these videos, keep it up!!!
Why not give both rotation options? Hotkeys just speed up the process imo .1° changes are also really uncommon. So why not just make it roate by a whole degree at first then enable finer rotation with ctrl or something.
Shift = 15°
Ctrl = .1° for fine rotation i guess.
Shift + ctrl = 18° or smth else
isnt this also how things like offset work in stable? this is a good idea imo
This is exactly what I was thinking, too
Or a dropdown menu so you can select how many degrees of rotation you want for X/Y object?
@@absurddive i think dropdowns are a lost end in the new editor. Like i get why they wanna try it out, but from what i see it only makes the workflow in editor slower, especially with functions that you use alot dropdowns feel kinda bad.
this would be nice, although the text box dialog option we have in stable absolutely needs to be implemented regardless.
I think a good improvement for the degree rotation is when the cursor is further away from the rotating button while holdling it, the less sensitive it is so that it's more precise
bro taking a note out of apples book with the video skipping thing, very handy tho so i could see it being a good change, although i still think the other suggestion of jus allowing you to type in an amount of degrees would probably be better
Thanks for the update, appreciate it!
You should totally watch oshi no ko!!!
@@sinyus2018 uhm.. I've read the manga tho
@@StackoTra so what happens after oshi in oshi no ko gets oshi'd
@@sinyus2018 i don't understand what you mean, but the manga is insane... maybe cuz its Aka Akasaka
@@StackoTra so you know oshi opens the oshidoor and oshi fan oshi-s all over the place, do you suggest waiting for more anime eps or just reading the manga
For the Epilepsy warning, maybe have an on/off toggle in the options
i think once directx/vulkan and pp (on leaderboards) is finally functional, most of the players would start transitioning to lazer, myself included
tbh the HDHR vs DT score multiplier change is the opposite of what it should be. If anything, I would want good acc DT scores at the top of the leaderboard, not out of it. Something like 1.15x DT. This just feels like another punch in the face, because 1.5x Speed is so much more difficult than HDHR on 99% of maps.
Realistically, adding 0.025x for every 10% of added speed (instead of 0.02x) would fix this without removing standard DT from most leaderboards
they said a while ago that they were going to greatly change hd and hr weighting too, just give it some time
@@parzy_osu They said it at the end of this video too. The part I dont really get about it tho, is that the mod multipliers are only balanced against each other. So the only thing this does without changing HD and HR is banishing DT out of leaderboards. I get that its also for balancing incremental speedup, but changing the only speedup that was previously already there without the others seems weird to me.
@@Tim_593 The leaderboards currently mean absolutely nothing and are in a state of constant changes, plus all of this is completely irrelevant because HD and HR changes are already planned.
every lazer update i pray we get a way to edit the timing lines in mania
Hope theres an option for disable it, in my case when playing it is seen that the notes are broken by those lines
My monitor is actually a humble TV xD
thank you for the hard work!!
good to see more work on the editor, since it's pretty much the only thing holding me back from never using stable ever again (exaggeration). I'd love to map with some of the features lazer offers but some things are still missing
There is an issue on iOS im not sure if renderer related, but maps that start with a lot of hit objects load very slow and laggy, but if you stall on the loading page (where you can edit offset) and make it take longer till the map starts, it isnt nearly as laggy
been playing on my ipad - so so amazing how far that's come. it's actually fun to play now. i hope the performance can keep improving
Let's gooo new Update Videoo❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Glad you guys are taking the time to really make everything properly, unlike a lot of other developers who might just kinda hack stuff together till it works.
Keep up the great work!
i love when my favorite holiday, lazer update, happens!
I like typing in rotation for monstrata hexgrid mapping
Wow thx for upd in my birthday 😊
Thanks Peppy Dean osu!
BABE WAKE UP NEW LAZER UPDATES LETS GOOOOOOOO
LES GOOOOOO
YAYYYYY NEW VIDEO
so glad i got here.
I’m not sure if it’s already a feature, but maybe the DT scaling could affect AR as well
really like the multipliers change on speed mod
i'd love to play with 1.10 or 1.20 since 1.50 is usually too much for me
❤
That was a pretty cool video. I just wish it was longer. 😭
I wish to see osu!mania could be played in portrait in android devices or maybe crop its interface in landscape because the interface is too small
As a casual mapper (0 ranked beatmaps) the new editor is miles ahead in terms of ease of use, and the ability to create complex sliders is incredible.
However I have some annoyances with it that I'd like to be addressed:
- Edit button from main menu shouldn't jump straight to creating a new map but to at least let me select a map to edit like in stable.
- The selection field should be able to be manipulated outside of the play field (by zooming in or panning). I think the play field being an absolute barrier to anything outside of it is annoying when I'm creating something complex or just doing some shitmapping.
- The default beat snap is 1/1 when it should be 1/4. Additionally it should remember the beat snaps when changing between triplets and common as it's very annoying to set it back to 1/4 every time I switch from either mode.
- Adjusting slider velocity can be a bit finicky sometimes. Also CTRL-Z doesn't work for changing slider velocity
- The upper wave timeline where I can select objects is very narrow. I understand osu is a cursor precision game but this is too user unfriendly IMO
Also natively implementing OliBomby's Mapping Tools would be cool
We're already tracking most of this feedback with solutions in mind!
@@DeanHerbertMooCow Also the selection field I was talking about is when I'm selecting a lot of objects and I can't for example rotate them because I can't get to the rotating icon that's off the field and under the interface. Thanks for the response as well
new update wooo
I got really scared after that bedtime sound, thought it’s my time to sleep at 6pm
good work all you!
When will Testflight link regenerate?
add toggle for song speed being affected in song select
please
i beg you
IT’S THAT TIME AGAIN
I wish there were more offset options (and properly labeled). Audio offset, chart offset judgement line offset, etc.) That addition would solve some hardware issues i think
this would make the game not work. sounds would be misaligned. we want to avoid that if possible because hitsounds are everything in osu!.
I love you peppy
LAZER! \o/
bed time peppy
no clue if these comments are being read for suggestions but i have a hotkey that rotates by 5 degrees, the ability to bind stuff like that would be useful
i liked the 30 second section. wish it was longer :(
4:36 I LEGIT THOUGHT THAT WAS MY PHONE HELP
it's nice seeing all these editor changes, but when will there finally be the android performance improvements? My game literally runs on 20 fps on a pretty decent phone that can handle Genshin Impact but not clicking circles it seems (no matter which game mode)
Can we have autoplay in the editor back pls uwu.
I'm also wondering where the map's SV is
Still somehow can't import skins and beatmaps it just shows me the delete all skin and beatmap :/
THE BED TIME ALARM
You could run peppy's voice through Izotope RX's mouth de-click module, it removes all those gross sticky mouth noises. The tool isn't free but I could process audio for you if you'd like
i was just using a bad microphone because not at my usual setup. temporary issues.
@@DeanHerbertMooCow gotcha!
I welcome the adobe-fication of the osu editor
Lazers
Letsgooo, my 1.20x speed scores actually give pp now
I hope mobile releases don't get the game big to the point where copyright holders start taking down songs.
hot take: remove score completely, rely on pp for everything since it's a superior system anyway
nice lazer update
epilepsy warning should probably be just how it was before but add an option to disable it in settings
if possible, can u make the hitcircles size adjustable for android? i think it's too small... (some maps have smaller hitcircles than normal so i think this option should be added?? idk...)
can't you just use the difficulty adjust mod and modify the circle size?
@@mouzedrift will it affect the ranking tho?
@@mouzedrift The map will be unranked if you modefied it.
@@itsukiyamamoto1663 wrong.
@@itsukiyamamoto1663 oh man :
Can you add samsung s pen support with side two fingers touch?
It's been a while
wow
ah yes, "the pause sound change-(interrupted by the 30 sec mark)"
I imagine that all DT or HT players will play again for a new score because of the multiplier change 😅
I definitely will
@@Tg11 yoo I know you
can someone explain different beetwen directx and opengl in terms of performance? because i find play with opengl make game easier with slightly slower and smooth apearring object (maybe i am wrong, but i feel so), otherwise with directx it make game slightly faster but not as smooth as opengl
Is it possible to make the mania playing field bigger? Recently installed it for my phone and I can barely hit the notes as my fingers are too big
no, but peppy said it will be better at some point
0:14 no way is that Noi Nay Co Anh?? 😳😳
In standard HDHR has a higher score multiplier than DT
yeah, very slight but on long maps it is noticeable
Hope there will be an update for osu mania in mobile because It's too small to hit the notes. Hope it's sizable.
pishi and peppy :)
Can you fix the alt + tab bug. It's like when you are on osu lazer and when u use alt + tab to return to osu lazer window, it just pitch black. I'm on windows 8.1
im on win 8.1 too. when that happens, press alt+enter twice to cycle to fullscreen bordered -> exclusive fullscreen
my only problem is performance, so if they manage to make lazer run as fine or better than stable than i'll switch. and i don't like the mania acc right now, at least i want to turn on the classic mod for that so i can enjoy the same score V1 with a better skin system.
have you tried recently? we've been putting a lot into performance.
@@DeanHerbertMooCow it runs on open gl better than on directx 11 (in menu i have 1000 fps with opengl, with dx11 i have 500-400 fps) , but there are song glitches, like when i retry a song so much it starts to stop in the beginning and it delays. It shows 300 fps but sometimes it feels less, i feel stuttering especially when i am in the mod selection menu. I know that this is an ongoing and hard development process, but i really like lazer so far in standard gamemode and taiko, so i hope it will run better.
@@DeanHerbertMooCow and i forgot to say, but i try lazer with every lazer update and hotfixes.
Nice
I can't wait for an Android renderer
ta re bueno
I don't whether its my pc or the game, but switching over to DirectX without locking my fps to 60 causes every element on screen to have grotesque screen tearing, to the point where elements flash in and out repeatedly...? I've updated to DirectX 12 and literally every driver possible which I could find but it still happens anyways.. :(
some specs: Optiplex 3020, 16 GB of DDR3 RAM, Intel(R) Core i5-4590 with Intel HD Graphics 4600.
we're aware of this and working on a solution
I downloaded it and it doesn't work very well on low-end PCs, they can't do an optimization for OSU! LAZER
the ar from osu classic is the same from osu lazer? i play in ar 9 and in the classic i always get 90%+ acc, but when i play in lazer my acc don't pass 75%. i want to know why
Pls FIX LAGG
HEY I CAN'T PLAY OSU LAZER MANIA ON MOBILE . PLS CHANGE THE HITBOX LIKE FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN .
be more specific, the regular fnf is not even on mobile without fan ports
also i get what ya mean, if it makes u feel better, I made a skin that works around this problem
cool
the update on my Bday
Is the game even close to releasing on the app store ?
That OpenGL TOTALLY damaged my intel version osu, it doesn’t work anymore, i uninstalled it and reinstalled it many times for a month and it won’t start.
I deleted every content related to osu to reinstall it like if it was new, still doesn’t work.
you can delete framework.ini to reset the remderer.
@@DeanHerbertMooCow The thing is, I really don't know how to do it, I'm really bad with computers and ever more with MacOs, I wrote that in spotlight but I can't find anything like that, I looked through the contents files and I don't find it, please help me.
Noooooo, the useless epilepsy warning was part of the experience!
So after downloading TestFlight it asks me for a redeem code? What is it?
2x pixel in android make me not like old ver
will there ever be an ultra lite version of lazer? my pc, even with the lowest settings, cant do more than 100 fps, and i often experience huge frame drops (input latency is pretty high too)
there will be performance improvements, just give them time
performance should be improved once they finish work on all of the renderers and stuff.
Just play with vsync on, why do you even need more than 60fps on a bad PC?
Either you run a lot of programs in thr background or you just have a really bad PC in general
I'm playing on a laptop with 8GB and using only iGPU and I can run at 240fps no problem
@@seinou7471 as i said, i have lots of frame drops too, and input latency is huge
When osu lazer will replace osu standart, standart is laggy asf
how 2 insert break time in lazer?
not added yet
u guys really like a father cuz u are doing that updates just for ur community
¨fix lags &latency next
Mobile optimization when?
One thing lazer really needs is to distinguish pausing and quick restarting, setting the delay to 0 makes pausing normal but makes quick restarting instant too and that is kind of annoying.
Also, for some reason you cannot turn off video/sb or change dim setting in the pause menu, meaning you’re bound to the settings you picked at the start of the map until you restart.
ctrl-o for settings in pause for now.
Jeez I'm late
hi
laser still won't run on my potato even though osu runs with 350 fps+
Is your renderer set to Direct3D 11 in settings?
@@zsand not sure
The main problem that I have with the lazer editor is that right-click doesnt auto delete