I have a *big* problem with Pinkbike.
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2023
- I click into Pinkbike all the time. They do good work. Unfortunately though, a few weeks back, two of their content creators made some comments and showed their cards. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, so here are my thoughts. Let's keep things positive! Let me know who your favorite smaller MTB content creator is, down in the comments. Thanks for watching.
The podcast episode in question: www.pinkbike.com/news/the-pin...
The comments I reference are around the 27 minute mark.
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Let's keep things positive! Let me know who your favorite smaller MTB content creator is below. I'd love to check them out!
Me? 😅
Okay but seriously after I commented as a joke I got like 15 subs and that's a lot to me so thanks so much you guys :D
@Alankoulkoilee is my favourite finnish small creator and I like @PelkaaAlamakea too. He has english subtitles on some of his videos too. I like @Alankoulkoilee very much because he is close to the same level as i am at riding.
@@p0nni I literally just moved here and want to know what trails etc there are and this seems helpful
Not really a small channel, VanCan.
@@SummitMTB Where did you move? I mean what part of the country
Good on you, Ryan. It's a good thing CZcams's algorithm can't tell the difference between people having fun, and people doing "the real thing". Or else I'd be pretty screwed.
Amen brotha
bahaha Seth , you’re probably the biggest influence on my decision to get back into bikes, so yes thank goodness!
Wait a minute @sethsbikehacks, I thought all your videos on how to strap the largest possible water bottle to a bike was aimed at aspiring professionals! How could I possibly enjoy every single one of your videos otherwise?
Watching Seth try 360’s and taco his wheels in downtown Fort Lauderdale, while cursing profusely, is what got me hooked on mountain bike youtube.
@sethsbikehacks your content is what inspires my interest in mountain biking. Racing has never interested me in the slightest.
Great response, Ryan! Nearly a decade ago, we launched this channel with the aim of combating elitism and gatekeeping within the mountain bike community. I started my career focused on creating shreddits for professional riders from behind the camera. It took five years for me to recognize that I deserved to step in front of the lens and that my abilities were indeed sufficient. Beyond skill, what truly mattered was the joy that bicycles brought me and the stories they allowed me to share. Every individual has a narrative worth sharing. Don't allow the "holier-than-thou" crowd to diminish your efforts. Pursue your passion and excel at it! #morebuttsonbikes
- Matt Dennison, professional bumbler of trails.
LOL you and crew are definitely not bumblers of trails..
*high fives fellow bimbler*
Love watching you guys bumble down trails! Gives me something to aspire to!
I love your videos more than anything Pinkbike has put out recently. Although you guys are better riders than me, you seem way more relatable, and you capture the joy that we regular folk feel when we go riding. Respect to you and the crew... 🤘
James from The Loam Ranger here. Just want you guys to know that I absolutely love your content. High production, well edited, Personable and great riders. What more could you want?
Keep doing what you’re doing. I’m here for it 🤘
First, Weird thing to say from someone who started out on GMBN. And second, I started riding at 49. Since I have no friends that ride mountain bikes pretty much everything I learned was from these "small time non-racer youtube creators". I started riding for health reasons. You guys literally saved my life. And I'm thankful for it everyday.
There is a huge wave of us older riders. I do like to race, but it's just one of the fun things we can do as mountain bikers. We have several shops and restaurants in Southern California that host rides. I wonder if there are some in your area to join.
That is weird, GMBN was made for people to get into mountain biking (Look at Blake & Neil just doing stupid races). Yeah, Neil brings up racing a lot, but it's as a "life lesson" tip. The difference between the CZcamsrs versus Racers is that... Well I want to see real trails, real people riding. Not racers trying to push themselves. I don't follow mountain bike racing because I don't follow sports, so Henry's mindset is very very bad towards riders who just want to 1. Have fun 2. Doing it for health and 3. Don't care about the professional scene.
beautiful
I'm 53 and I've been riding my entire life. First BMX, then MTB.
If you ever need someone to ride with in NJ-PA-NY area hit me up. Everyone needs people to ride with.
@@mylesreid709 I think your #1 should be #1, #2, and #3....your #2 could easily be anywhere there too. I also think many people mountain bike just to hang out with friends and cool people.
Wow, thanks for this Ryan. We indeed all start somewhere. There’s a lot of bullying that goes on in the bike industry and it’s nice to see folks speaking out.
if those comments were bullying... 🙄aren't we becoming too sensitive and delicate?
@@ShaggyRodgers420 no, not really in this case, when the response is disproportional to the trigger. However I get a video like this, it's winter time.
Inclusivity, not exclusivity. ❤
Bingo bango
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@BCpov I just want to thank you, Yuka and the rest of the CZcams mountain bike community. I love your approach to videos and it has inspired me to overcome my fears. Much love ❤✌
100%
The refreshing side of you and Yuka showing genuine concern and at times fear of features, is SO relatable and real for most riders. I'm glad to see you commented. You two are a perfect example of being humble and showing the reality of progression in mountain biking!
Pinkbike's Friday Fails wouldn't exist without 'em...
Beat me to it…
This is exactly what I was thinking. They get to profit off of folk's failure, yet lambast them for not being "good enough"? Not a good look.
Ooooffff 🤌🏻, brilliant 😂
Nice one 😂
Yeah let alone the ad placement in the beginning of the Friday Fails. Kind of an oxymoron: "pay us for brand awareness, here's a crowd sourced compilation of Joey's getting hurt"
I am 46yr old and very much new to MTB, So far I have recorded every ride I have made and hearing comments like this has made me want to post them. I think it is important for noobs like me to see where other people started from instead of just seeing seasoned shredders in every video. Seeing someone being reluctant at first to lean the bike into a berm or having timing issue's on jumps just like I am having is really important. Thank you so much @TheLoamRanger for being such a stand up classy guy. Much love from Fayetteville, AR
“Stand Up to the Jump” is possibly the single most useful “dance” video on MTB CZcams. I’d venture that simple video with a simple concept helped more people than any other.
YES. Every time I think about my jumping form “stand up to the jump” comes to mind
@@skyroach7158Same. Keeps this 51yo alive.
That song and dance improved my riding more than anything PinkBike has ever put out.
Even GMBN recently referred to this video 😂
Well shit... now that's in my head the rest of the day! lolollll
I would never want to be a racer, and I also don't even care enough to be a pro freerider either, because the injuries just aren't worth it for me! I much prefer to express myself as a rider and video creator instead! I quite like making videos that people enjoy :)
...and thanks very much for doing what you do!
The OG has spoken.
Whistlers OG creator just commented.
Love you channel keep that content coming
Please keep them coming
Spot on Ryan. I do find it strange that Pinkbike, debatably the largest MTB publication, is so out of touch with a massive segment of the community.
They really seem to cater to their most rabid commenters. Love your stuff btw!
Things have gone very downhill since Levy left. The phoned in field test this year just really laid it out in the open that their content took a massive nosedive after Levy's departure. Probably some sour grapes with Henry and Kaz there. I suspect a bunch of other well known PB staff have left (i.e. Sarah Moore) but kept their departure under the radar.
They are not just out of touch, they are straight up toxic. I've seen one of their main editors make absolutely obnoxious, rude comments towards other users, then use their mod powers to delete the comment an hour or so afterwards. I saw this happen multiple times on "controversial" articles, where the main controversy was based around the fact the author of the article barely put any effort into it and people politely pointing out flaws or disagreements were insulted in return. If you watch some of their videos and read between the lines a bit, you can catch this person making similar comments, even to other editors.
The world is in desperate need of a written publication for the mountain bike world that is down to earth and not written by narcissists. I mainly follow NSMB, but I wish they would get more coverage and exposure, they seem and act like real people who engage with the community in a down to earth and respectful manner.
It’s that you ain’t hard core enough mentality. OK bro I get it, you’re just too cool. It’s a shame. I guess, pink bikes, too cool for the rest of us. 🤷🏽♂️ they used to be the ones that were the most down to earth. 😝 I’m sure you’re good dude let’s get back to reality and better contact pink bike!
Look at Pinkbike Academy. They are obviously out of touch.
Yes Ryan, bravo. I've always loved making inclusive content and being positive for the exact reasons you mention. I want people to enjoy my favourite thing as much as I do - doesn't matter whether old, young, male, female, novice or expert. Really pleased you made this video - mountain biking is inclusive, and there is far too much negativity out there that doesn't do anyone any good. 👏
Thank you Doddy!!!! Missing seeing your face every week!
Is this The Doddy??? Please tell me you're making a youtube channel!! Owen is great over at gmbn tech but I miss you!
Doddy!!!!!!! The myth, the legend!!
As someone who bumbles down trails and posts it on CZcams sometimes, I greatly appreciate this video. Thank you for saying it on such a big platform. Also, you nailed it about trail recon. The only reason I started making videos was because there weren't really any other videos of the trails in my area at the time. I'm not fit, I'm not a great mountain biker, a "content creator", or an "influencer". I just like to ride bikes and sometimes make videos.
As a busy person who gets maybe 1h of riding every 2 weeks and can't find pictures on most of trailforks trails and can't afford time to go to the wrong trail centers or take the wrong bike, thank you for letting others see what the trails look like while planning the night before
I excel at bumbling down trails!
Love the positive message here man! Thanks for sharing.
Great video Ryan! The "watch me walk it" clip made me laugh because I make a point of including moments when I'm not feeling comfortable and decide to walk a feature or take the ride around. And you know what? People appreciate it because it makes them feel more comfortable doing the same.
Love your channel Dave (Dale's too). I appreciate many different riding disciplines but I'm more interested in the tech/trials trails.
Dude I love your videos because of THAT, you ride sensibly and include everything, from stuff I couldn't do (shredding steep techy trails) to stuff I would absolutely do (walking around those trails, haha).
Keep doing what you're doing!
Absolutely - those moments remind us of your human experience, and it also makes the wins even more satisfying.
Dude, if you're walking a section, it has to be incredibly dangerous! Seriously, you are absolutely right. Its good to see that someone even at your level is OK walking a feature
Exactly, when you or I or anyone posts showing walking a feature or taking the bypass or whatever is what I am looking for when I research trails to ride. I want to learn what are the challenging features so I know what to expect or what to avoid or even if the trail is one to even ride. The highlight posts are fun to watch but for me full raw pov rides are my research bible. Just found your channel and will be checking out your videos.
Everyone that’s ever recognized me out on the trails has always been thankful and appreciative of the videos I’ve put out. The goal has never been to become famous or to put myself on a pedestal, but to provide an honest and authentic experience from someone who loves riding bikes.
Well said! I consider myself an average to possibly below average rider and I've had many people come up to me to say they appreciate my videos because it shows them that they CAN do it themselves. If only pro riders made videos, everyone would be scared to even try! Kind of a short sighted approach for them to take.
Small creators FTW! Watching Matty Active go from a guy who stumbled into biking while delivering packages to making highly polished, fun, interesting videos while seeing him grow as a rider has been amazing.
I’ve always told people, don’t wait until you think you’re good enough to start making videos. Make videos now, because the people that are going to be the most invested in your story are starting at the same spot you are.
BUT WHAT'S THE BEST CAMERA FOR MAKING VIDEOS?!?!
@@nofrontbrakeslol wow…
😂@@nofrontbrakes
@@nofrontbrakes I used a razer gaming phone once, it did a great job recording only thing don't put it on the handlebars if ur riding tech.
I thought the same thing when watching Matty Active go from riding around the city on an entry hardtail to traveling out of Colorado on some really good full squish bikes.
As a small (tiny) content creator, man this felt amazing hearing you say this, Ryan. I am not the best rider, even out of my friends, but I love this sport and I want to share it as much as I can. The care, and the bravery it took to send this and “go up against” one the, if not the absolute biggest players in the game is huge. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you so much.
Damn, i've never mountain biked but now I want in! This approach on making action sports accessible and welcoming really hit home for me. Thank you!
I think another good point to if people only had professional level videos to watch it could be detrimental to encouraging people to even try to start mountain biking. Some of that stuff looks cool, but is terrifying to people to think that’s what it’s all about. Lots of great points. Thanks for taking a stand Ryan!
truth. All it takes is a bike, go out and B1!!!!!
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The faster you ride with any action camera, the worse the video quality becomes. It gets pixelated, grainy and fuzzy at the same time. Just pause any riding video and try to tellme it's even close to 1080p
Not just the features, but the bikes. These guys are riding bikes that cost as much as a motorcycle. I'm not spending more than $3k EVER on a bike because I can't justify it with the amount riding I'm able to do.
So not only can I not relate to the smooth, bike park trails they ride, which have massive jumps but less tech features than my local XC trails, but I can't relate to the bikes.
Then you have guys like Sam Pilgrim, a crazy talented rider who's out there shredding free/cheap bikes, taking Walmart bikes to Whistler and the like and ending the video by saying you don't need to spend thousands on bikes to have fun.
You've got Spindatt saying "Every bike is a good time." You got Kev Central updating big box bikes to show it can be done and they can be adequate trail bikes. The gate keeping of MTB is the antithesis of the what the community aspires to be. Everyone out on the trails, pushing themselves just a little beyond their skill level in an effort to get better and have fun. Whether you're an XC rider or you're taking chair lifts at the downhill park. It's all good.
At least we're not roadies, right? 😉 (Jk)
What’s ironic is PinkBike got so popular because anyone could upload their own photos and videos to their platform before social media or CZcams was really a thing. I remember being a 14 year old kid stoked to share my content on there.
Thank you for speaking out on this. Well spoken and also giving credit where credit is due.
Your point about checking out trails that might be hard to find info on, is basically the driving force behind my channel. Not a lot of info out there about MTB trails in Thailand!
Thanks again, Mr Loam Ryanger
Wow, I admire you for creating this reaction video. It's delivered in a very professional, and thoughtful way. I am one of those "bumbling down easy trails", and I started this at 9yo, about a year ago.
One thing that us small creators make it so relatable is seeing how we progress in both content creation, and MTB riding. I've accumulated so many GoPro POV videos of me bumbling down the trail, but I realised, if I put it together as a trail guide, someone will benefit from it and as a way of me giving back. Plus they can see it from a kid's perspective riding down double blacks on a 24 inch bike.
Keep shredding man! It's amazing what you do at your age, and inspiring!
Seriously, you're 10! Very impressive young man! You're killing it!
There's a dad that's been taking his son riding since 3 years old, he's now 6. To see the first videos to now, it's amazing to see the progress. His son just got 3rd in a 15 year and under downhill race.
I agree with you man!
@@baselsalam thank you 🙏
@@Druezy thank you, that's encouraging
Love this Ryan. I truly feel that it's SO important for people to flex their creativity. Sometimes that comes in the form of making videos. I know for me personally it changed my life. I was stuck in the routine of life. Get up, go to work, go home, dinner, bed, repeat. But when I started producing content it sparked the creativity in me and I couldn't WAIT to film and edit the next idea. It brought so much excitement back in to my life. It's always amazing to see a new creator come on the scene and see that discovery happen for them!
Find Bobo and make videos together, it would be like chocolate meeting peanut butter.
@@VisionMTB We've done a couple collabs. He's in one of my shorts and I've appeared randomly in a couple of his videos. But nothing long yet. We're too far apart!!
What! I'm about to test the CZcams search function to its limit@@CaliradoKid
Dude, keep doing you. My wife sends me your Reels all the time. You're hilarious.
Yeah but there's a fine line between "creativity" and full-on obnoxious clickbait garbage, isn't there.
Actually, it was stumbling onto your so called “bumbling” 2017 and prior videos that inspired me to get back into mountain biking after a five year hiatus. I’ve found loads more usefulness and enjoyment from all of you content creators than from Pinkbike. So a big THANK YOU to you and all of you content creators for what you do! Don’t loose sleep over these guys!
It’s fun to watch a pro ride a local trail but I actually learn way more about it when I find a POV run by someone down at my skill level.
Also it’s awesome to watch some of these folks progress.
Some of my favorite videos are the local guys posting with a couple hundred subscribers, having honest reactions to scary trail features. In some cases they'll skip them, but in others they hit them and the stoke level is unmatched. I love your content, Pinkbike's content, and so many other big names, but the small guys are the realest of them all. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely this!
Amen!
Absolutely! I have had more than one person comment on my videos and say that they love that we're out there riding trails and hitting features they feel they can ride and relate to. I've probably had as many comments about how much they love seeing how much fun we're having as anything else. A lot of those Pro rider videos are highlighting things that less than 10% of the riders would attempt, and many are less than 5%. There has to be something to cater to the other 90%!!
Well said!
Well said Ryan! That may have been an off the cuff comment by those guys (they are good dudes in our experience!) but certainly one that deserved to be called out. One of the best things about mountain biking is that almost anyone who can ride a bike can do it at some level, and love it just as much as a pro. Hope you get some sleep tonight!
The issue is as much as I like them this is a pattern of behavior. The pinkbike podcast often has comments that are disconnected from the average rider and quite dismissive. I get that the PB guys mostly hang out with industry people or at least people close to it but they need to be able to understand the perspective of a typical rider. That's what I tried to do when I was writing over a decade ago so I'm surprised they have a problem with it being older and way more experienced than a 25-30 year old, priviledged kid which I was at the time.
I am so grateful for brave people like you on the internet. You're 100% right, seeing someone else struggling means I'm not alone. Seeing someone else stop at features, encourages me to ride safe. I don't ever want to race, I just want to enjoy the fun of it at my level. I hope Pinkbike take note and realise how off the mark they were, but in the meantime, keep going! Thank you for taking the time for me, and so many others you don't even know, thanks for making our lives better.
Thank you so much for sharing this - lots of smaller creators don’t often get this kind of backing. ❤️
This video really lifted me up. I've put up a few very amateur videos, and plan to put together trail guides for all my local trails. I've been riding for just over a year. Pink bike content is so unrelatable to me, they test bikes I will never ride, and ride at skill levels I may nvere reach. I enjoy beginners and intermediate level riders putting videos up. Seeing growth in a person is way more interesting than pink Ike reviewing an 8,000 dollar bike.
Well said, that' is so true.
This is going to be a good video!
You have some great points. Everybody should be free to film and upload their ride or doing whatever video they want. It's great for everybody.
Thanks Ryan for putting this out there! I love how you circled back to the point of encouraging more people to tell their story and upload their videos.
And I think that’s where Henry and Kaz miss the mark. For many of us it’s not about just filming us on a trail, it’s about telling our story of our experience. And that’s important. Because we all know many people learn by doing. And seeing other people’s experiences out on the trails gives us insight and excitement about riding in those places. I can’t tell you how many times people come up to me on the trails and tell me they are there because I did a video about riding there. THAT’S the point of creating the content! Not because of how well (or not well) I rode the trails but because I was there and viewers wanted to experience the same stoke! 🤙🏼
Keep it up Ryan, hopefully more people are encouraged!
Before the explosion of mountain bike content creation, you would only see the pros riding insane trails and features. While its amazing and incredible to watch, as an average rider you cannot even begin to think of getting to that level or doing said riding. Creators like you are relatable, knowledgeable and helpful for 95 percent of the mountain bike community. Its really refreshing to see someone cautious of a gnarly feature or trail, makes you realize you arent the only one. Your videos are entertaining, and great to watch for people who ride. You're obviously doing something right or else you wouldn't have 400k subscribers. Keep on doing you, and don't let anyones opinion or thoughts make you think twice.
As someone who lives away from home, videos by locals are my favourite thing to watch. Big shout out to @TrailAdvisor for showing all the best new Irish trails!
Thanks for sharing this Ryan, as a content creator this definitely hits. This sort of speak will continue to perpetuate barriers in our sport. Imma keep posting my dance vids tho.
Please do keep posting your vids, you are a riot, and make a huge impact to this community!
we love dance videos 🎉
I'm so here for it Jess. You're one of the funniest people I know on Instagram. Love your work!
Jess, your content is amazing ❤
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We need people to speak out and thank you Ryan for doing exactly that. I see a lot of bad content from them, specially PB Academy and now this.. it seems like wrong people are in wrong places. MTB community is all about supporting and cheering to be better self and have as much fun as possible.
Man I don't know where I'd be without those trail preview videos. they're a lifesaver and it sucks to hear people talking down to it. Ive recently stumbled upon a guy who goes by "Average Dude Riding Hard Trails" and ive binge watched almost all of his videos. he has just less than 600 subscribers rn but I think that'll increase soon. He makes some very relatable videos about him riding the hardest trails he can find. Hilarious.
This video hit me right in the feels! Thanks for leading the charge Ryan! It felt like you were talking right to me…
I think what it all comes down to is that we all love this sport so much and we just want to share with the world to get more awesome people on bikes!
As a “Baby CZcamsr” myself, I feel like making content that’s relatable to the “regular Bens” out there is the best way to make the sport approachable.
Thanks again!
Let’s keep getting more folks on bikes!
🤜🏼🤛🏼
Same here. Let’s keep on uploading 🤙🏾
Dude you’re awesome, keep at it
You're one of my favorites dude!, inspiring and clear, keep it up!
Ryan well said. As someone in that slack group who you've helped many times it's refreshing to have someone call @pinkbike out. It's that attitude at pinkbike that's had me not paying attention to them for years. I focused my efforts in the beginning trying to make videos and blogs and spending days on end submitting and having them rejected only to be accepted when someone that knows someone gets it pushed through... not based on the quality but based on who knows who.
Watching this video and reading these comments has been such a welcome dose of positivity and encouragement this small creator needed. This is why I love this community!
Nice. Love your work. I firmly believe that having everyone’s video or view is the best part of recon.
When I’m heading out on a ride I can guarantee that one of your videos is on my list. Some days we ride fast and some days we ride slow. We need all the information we can get to get the best ride day we can.
Thanks for teaching us to "stand up to the jump" and being an advocate for all of us MTBers out here!
That video was really the turning point for me in learning to jump at 50+ .
Amazing video. Thank you for sharing. This just shows how we need more progressive thinking in social media. The only way to get good at it, is to do it. It’s like stand up comedy. You can only test a joke on a stage, and for social you can only find out what works and doesn’t work by posting and seeing what rises. We are in a new media landscape and old school thinking, even from the best, is not helpful. As an old school film editor and a newly started social media creator trying to discover a voice I deeply appreciate this video. Thanks again! ❤❤
Yes
I use it literally ALL the time. It helps me a bunch too!
I sing the song in my head on the approach to any jump to psych myself up and send it. I was afraid to jump prior to that video.
Thanks for creating an inclusive community for ALL mountain bikers on CZcams. The community is one of the main reasons I enjoy this sport so much and it's a shame to see Pinkbike discredit majority of their fan base. Making videos is a hobby of mine and I thoroughly enjoy it! It took me years to work up the courage to start posting my own videos. Thanks for being a voice for us small creators!
I’m recently retired (49) & decided to start working on an MTB social media presence since I love the sport so much. I had a couple years where I couldn’t ride, so I’m rebuilding my skill set. If I’d heard that podcast on my own, I’m not sure I’d even want to keep riding. So thank you for your words of encouragement. I truly mean that.
Another point about you mentioning Remy: If every MTB video was of him riding, we’d lose so many people. They’d think everyone rode like that & be too scared to join the ranks. Gatekeeping only thins the herd & will be the death of MTB as a sport.
Thank you for this video🙏. I am a small CZcams creator from Switzerland. I don't do it because I'm particularly good, but because I love this sport and I enjoy creating videos and sharing these experiences with other bikers🙌. I've met a lot of awesome people in the time I've been doing this and I love discovering new trails and places🤩. So to all the bikers out there, do it with passion and share your experiences with like-minded people💪. Ride on and enjoy it🤘
I never comment. Never. But I really appreciate you speaking up. I’m a very low level rider and I completely appreciated some of these newer creators showing me trails and how to get better. Also having watched others like you grow in your abilities is a huge boost of confidence. Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t listen to the noise. Happy trails.
Your comment has so much value here. You’re exactly the huge audience that’s the silent majority that can’t relate to elitist attitudes. Thank you for speaking up!
Can you please teach me how to stop commenting on everything on SM?! 🤣🤣🤣
It makes me think of Warren Miller. His movies captured the beautiful, simple joy of skiing, all the way from beginners to the most extreme and everyone in between. His love for the sport was so contagious that you couldn't WAIT to go skiing after seeing the new movie each fall. It was an event that kicked off the season in ski towns across north America and not a single one of us ski bums even noticed whether or not he raced.
Watching videos of you and other content creators "bumbling down easy trails" is why I love mountain biking even more and why I have gotten better as a rider! Keep posting your videos and I will keep watching. They are very, very entertaining.
Thanks so much for the video Ryan. I’m glad you spoke up for what I believe is the majority of mountain bikers in a tactful and thoughtful way. I’m one of those mountain bikers that very occasionally posts a video of myself “bumbling” down a trail…mainly to share with my friends and family who want to see what the trails by me are like.
It’s unfortunate to see a major publication like pink bike so out of touch with their audience, which has been the case for quite some time.
Gatekeeping is a pretty telltale sign of insecurity. Older media outlets like PB have to adapt to the changing times. The variety of YT content creators out there have done wonders for increasing adoption into our sport. I've been fortunate to have been around the scene for the last 25 years and can objectively say that new riders have never had it better . Keep on doing what you guys do.
Thanks for posting. I’m new (at age 56) to MTB, and one of my favorite things about the folks I meet, even the total shredders at various downhill parks is how nice and supportive everyone is. It’s really special. Thanks for reinforcing that. Instant like and subscribe.
Good video with a strong message!
Every mountain biker who wants to should dare to put their videos online. The most important thing is that the person uploading it had fun making the video and is proud of it.
I came across your videos when I was looking for a "how to jump" tutorial and then got stuck here because I find the channel very entertaining.
Keep doing your thing!
Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
I listened to the episode. I went back and relistened to minutes 27-32. The influencer joke was directed at Matt as a “how do you feel about this?” while also being self referential to working as basically an influencer. The internet filling up joke is as much about the ubiquity of video and how there is just so much. I think if you listen to the whole exchange There is a lot less here to make an issue out of. There’s room for everyone and no one is about to lose their influencer job because a couple people made a joke.
This 👍
But self righteous umbrage is the currency of the times
it's 2023, Feelings are fragile. People can't let anyone have an opinion anymore.
Also Henry’s comments were in the context of asking Matt how he felt about decade ago!
I watched Matty Active when he first started. He wasn’t a great mountain biker by any stretch but his enthusiasm was off the charts and infectious. It has been fun to watch him improve over time. That kind of stoke exemplifies the soul of the mtb community. Keep it up!
Great channel!!!!
LOVE me some Matty!
me too I followed his channel and followed his journey and the reason we watch these "noob" videos is we can totally relate. not all of us are born skilled and pros so we cling on to something we can relate to. And not all of us ever dreamed to become a pro. Just a common mountain biker having fun with his mountain bike. these elitist think they know better.
Watching new riders advance is just as entertaining, if not more, than watching the pros
Matty is great. Wanna ride with him someday
Mate, I’m fully 100% with you on this! I could write a comment that would take 10mins to read about this! I’m one of those creators, (seems funny calling myself that), I’ve had a CZcams channel for years and didn’t know you could even make money! So good on you for putting this up! I watch you and I know this would have been tough for you to put up! Well done! One day, like you say, I hope my content gets better! So sad that the ‘big wigs’ try and put a dampener on us little guys… anyway, water off a ducks back, I love your content and I love checking out the up and coming Mtb CZcamsrs content, it’s encouraging and helpful in so many ways. I hope now that you, as a very much respected CZcamsr, have had your say, can feel better and can move on and still enjoy the process because I would hate to not see you content anymore. I love it and thank you for doing it as it’s been so helpful to me and many many others.
Thank you for this video, it's really important to share this message. I've done my first little mountain bike video this autumn (and yes it's very much a "tumbling down" a trail 😂). It took quite the courage to upload it and fortunately I haven't seen the pinkbike podcast before.
You know it's guys like you, & Remy, & Yoann, and even the guys at Pinkbike who I've personally learned a lot from that pushed me to go further, harder, and longer. That really helped me early on after +30 years off a bike to really progress my riding, and help me discover brands I'd never heard of, and even buy a bike (Ibis Ripmo AF) I never would've considered otherwise. I've watched some of those bumbling down a green or blue trail videos of trail systems I'm familiar with and been like, c'mon man you could go so much faster! And then I remember what it was like to get back out on trail after +30 years for the first time just over 18 months ago. Life changing.
Sometimes, I think that some of these personalities have forgotten that feeling, have forgotten where they came from, and that not all of us get to ride $10k+ bikes just to test for free, even get paid to do it. So, thanks for speaking out, for all of us little guys. ✌
Seth from Bern Peak started creating mtb videos from Miami, FL and look where his channel is right now. Never underestimate the power of small content creators.
Indeed but it’s alot harder to replicate now because those who have been doing for years have pushed the quality bar up alot. It’s harder to have a usp as more do it which makes it harder to establish yourself in an ocean of mediocrity that is CZcams on any subject you choose
@@CM9999999999 I started making videos on MTB, but I realised there's much more to it, arguably it's easier now because there are so much content outside of MTB to have some small success as a creator. But everyone is saying, especially Mr Beast just create 100 videos.
What’s funny is Radek from Pinkbike started out by emailing us his early videos of the crew’s Calgary shenanigans to drum up interest in the PB site. Those early videos would give today’s Friday fails a run for their money. At the core, PB was intended to be a place for mountain bikers to share their passion…it has changed since the boys moved on to new pursuits.
Well said, Ryan. Imagine what the world would be like if we all encouraged each other rather than belittled each other.
You are spot on! You were one of the 1st CZcamsrs I subscribed to when I got serious about riding at 39yo. I actually prefer watching people "bumble" through, why cause it shows me I can do these trails too. Great post keep em up and keep em positive
Some of my favorite ride-recon videos are from plain, Joe-shmo riders who record going down trails at normal-people speed so I know what I’m in for. Thank you for standing up for them and us!
I got back into mountain biking after 20 years off (was one of the early mountain bikers in my area in the 90s) BECAUSE of CZcams channels like yours, Seths, Alexs and a couple other of the channels that kept it approachable, positive and full of stoke. I have Zero interest in ever riding with any of the Pinkbike crew, but would gladly ride with any one of the content creators who is positive and inclusive.
I appreciate your perspective my man. I’m a younger channel and 100000% fall down easy hills. I’ve been a follower of your channel, and many of the top commenter channels, for a long time. I find all of yall hugely inspirational and feel warm and fuzzy with this video!
Keep on doing what you do broski.
Right on Ryan, can't say you nailed it enough! I am personally an intermediate rider and typically watch channels of content creators that are at my level and a little better, I'm always trying to improve and sometimes watch just to be entertained. I try to make content to entertain and help new riders. No need to be snooty.
Thank you for calling this out. Pinkbike has had an attitude/gatekeeping problem for years and now they're surprised they're going to have to share their sponsorship budget with creators who actually make people feel included. Whoops.
What a shit comment from two people at pinkbike! I’m disappointed in them and that they would use their platform to push that out. Let’s just keep doing our thing! Thanks for speaking out about this!
I agree, and saw your Trek Slash review and compared to theirs, yours were honest review, their review was biased PinkBike is being paid to do a good review. Lol.
Nailed it Ryan! Case in point, before riding Hiline in Sedona I watched videos of riders doing it carefully and slowly. That prepared me well enough to clear most of the big features. In comparison, Nate Hills video made it look like a green trail. Thank you for standing by smaller content creators. We all appreciate you!
Most mtb youtubers have crazy riding skills and not only they/you share your adventures with us, you also save our lame/bad days...so thank you and keep doing what's you doing and good work will keep you rolling in the jungle...🤙🤙
The great thing about CZcams is it's diversity. Channels are usually popular for one of two reasons. Either they are a professional at what they do, or more commonly, they make great, entertaining videos.
Awesome response! For me, putting content with me stumbling down trails or getting over the fear of a scary feature to me and maybe not others is more genuine. Keeping it real and showing the struggles that the sport can present to you from time to time. Anyone new to content creation, keep on doing what you're doing!
dam right brother!
Can't agree more! I'm 62, previously a cancer patient, and here because I love mountainbiking and the entire community around it. The fact that there are so many content creators on all levels, having interesting stories to tell (many of them even commenting here) gives me the the inspiration to keep on biking for as long as my body will let me. That elitism and snobbery just makes me wanna laugh. They are just plain and simply wrong. Keep on doing what you do.
Glad you are still with us.
Bullying, gatekeeping and constant negativity have no place in our sport; at the end of the day we all dress up in silly costumes and bumble our bikes through the forest. Riding skill has no correlation with how valuable of a person someone is and anybody implying otherwise needs a reality check. Fight the good fight Ryan! 🫡
One of my favourite creators is the Trail Tracker. He films his ridding around Switzerland and it gives lots of good ideas of where to go riding in the future and what is doable for normal people.
Thanks for making this video, I love you and the other CZcams creators videos. You are way more relatable and great for getting inspired. The MTB media, and many other sports for that matter, are only talking about a level of performance that I can never reach with the time I have, bikes that are so stupidly expensive I don’t even read/watch the reviews anymore. What’s the point? So please, keep creating, you are the people who get my “average rider” attention!
Always happy to be of service 😉
Big thank you for making this video! I only started writing a couple years ago and immediately got in love with making content behind it. I know my content is not the best, and I'm still learning but it's so much fun learning new skills on the bike and with technology. It was also encouraging to hear this as I just had a really gnarly wreck on what some folks would call a "easy feature." unfortunately due to that, I will be recovering for a long time but I'm more eager to get back on the bike and making the best content I can around it because of this video. Thank you again!
It's funny, I find myself pretty self conscious of my own riding and the content I produce already WITHOUT hearing a giant company (that has staff, writers and people to help create their movies btw) speak this way of the stuff us smaller channels produce. Definite punch in the gut.
Your content is some of the most relatable out there. No ego, just vibes, sometimes them are awkward vibes, but that what makes it relatable. Love what you're doing and watch all your stuff.
Your content is amazing! I love the diversity in your content. Keep up the good work, don’t let them get you down!
I have never posted a comment to any of the vids I’ve watched - until right now. Ryan, what a great, positive response to a lousy situation. It took some backbone to post this video and stand up for what you know is right. Good on you. As for what are my favs to watch? You’re #1 and I also dig Singletrack sampler, Kyle & April, Super Rider and Phil! Keep up the positive vibes and great work man!
I love this. Thank you! I ride 3-4 days per week, never had racing aspirations, nor do I care about racing. Many of my friends do, but to each their own. Good on you for calling them out.
I also posted this on Spindatt but every time I go on holiday with the bike I use these POV videos to plan the trails I will ride. You are not just providing a service but entertainment keep doing it.
HUGE respect to you for calling them out on this. I had no idea. I wouldve never had any idea because I don't care about their podcasts. I wonder if they were really just having such a shitty day that caused them to say some stupid shit. I 100% agree. Yes, they're humans and they're allowed to make mistakes but It's no longer a "mistake" when you have the ability to influence potentially millions of people the way pinkbike does and it just simply makes no sense for them to be so blatantly rude and childish
Absolutely spot on!
Not to mention the fact that pinkbike themselves have a section of their site dedicated to people uploading videos.
I find it sad that Henry in particular seems to have developed this growing ego since leaving gmbn.
I've really missed the diversity of some of the other staff at pinkbike recently too. It seems to be these three that have really taken center stage which is a really shame and not the direction that I expected them to go when bought out by Outside media.
Thanks for speaking out and I think this was really eloquently said.
I've never had a bad experience with any other mountain biker on the trails. We're out to enjoy riding no matter what skill level. Also, I love watching other riders ride trails that I might want to ride, be it at a pro level or a beginner. Mad props to you, Ryan, for taking this stance.
Funnily enough the best tips I've gotten from a skill improvement standpoint have been from your videos despite watching a lot of content from the pros. Much more relatable and much closer to where I'm at as a rider. Keep up the great work!
I like to research places I'm going to visit for the first time. I like it when somebody says where to park, how long it should take, what to watch out for, which direction to go, etc. I also learned long ago that one's level of proficiency with a camera and editing software does not equate with their level of skill or knowledge of mountain biking. I've sat through plenty of well-lit and beautifully shot videos where the person didn't know what he was talking about. I've also watched great content from a guy who really knows his stuff but looks like he's being held hostage and talking into a cell phone with a single light bulb hanging over his head.
Oh wow - I wasn't aware about it. Maybe Pinkbike is feeling the competition from the "smaller" mountain bike content creators and that's their way to diminish other peoples videos. For me personally, I really enjoy the variety of all sorts of different mountain bike content which is available in so many amazing channels on CZcams - it helps me improving or honing my skills on a bike, understanding tech like suspension setups and whatnot much better and just having a blast watching your videos. And damn, you are right, it takes a lot of courage to put your own content out and that should be something you should be proud of.
One of my favorite channel is “old man fat bike”. Reason is because he simply rides his bike and shows the scenery. Nothing more or less
Those comments by the PB guys are a bummer. Everyone starts as a grom. Everyone
YT was created for the type of guys "bumbling down the trails" just trying to show the world a glimpse into their life/passion. I actually find it more enjoyable to watch the non-pro amateurs because they're out there just pushing record and having fun.
You just hit your first jump and got 2" of air and can't stop talking about how cool it was? Dude. I'm right there with you in the stoke. I am a MTB coach specifically because seeing people get excited about mountain biking gets me excited, which it turn makes me psyched, which then usually ends up with the two of us flying down the mountain at mach chicken giggling like little school girls.
Thank you for not buying into elitism and encouraging your audience. What keeps so many people in this sport is the sense of community and collaboration that I haven't seen anywhere else. That's what we need. Keep at it 🤙
Well spoken Sir, I have been riding MTB's since the 80's, raced DH in the 90's, won a World Cup in 99 and started putting on my own DH race in Cali for several years that was targeted at getting young kids into DH racing. I am now 53 and spend a lot of my spare time working on local trails and educating hikers, equestrians and anyone else I run into about Mt biking and everything that makes it so fun. At the end of the day we all just want to ride our bikes and enjoy being outside and spend time with family and friends. Your channel, Seth, Rich Drew and others to me are informative and I always learn something and just fun to watch. Keep up the good work, stay positive and just have fun.
Wait, who are those guys?
Loved your view on the topic, and also this commentary is a grat way to discover other small creator, thank you ! I am also a small creator, I post my racing videos and training with youngsters (my part time job is cycling coach), most of my videos is bumbling up and down "easy" trails.
This was spot on. I first started watching CZcamsrs to view trails I planned to ride, not to see people shred double blacks. Even most of the PB content I have watched is for the average person plodding their way down a new trail and pushing their boundaries. Part of what makes Remy so great is that he does both of these things and he is accessible to people like me. Anyhoo, love your content, even when you just ride easy trails. :)
Talk about a low blow from PB. If it weren't for all the content creators (Seth's Bike (BERM PEAK), BCPOV, BKXC, Van Can, Singletrack Sampler and Loam Ranger, etc), I wouldn't ride as much or enjoy biking and all, you guys make me want to go out. Thanks to all of you for putting these videos out for us to enjoy.
Top video, mate. I love watching mtb videos from differing perspectives and skill levels from every corner of the globe. Basically, they are mtb travel videos that inspire me to want to ride those trails. There is no place for negativity in mtb riding. Our culture is one of inclusion. Keep up the great work mate.. I'm an Australian, and I really enjoy your videos, The Singletrack Sampler and Seth's videos from the USA. And here at home, there are 10 guys I follow. Cheers.
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They said if your not trying hard enough then what’s the point of trying since you wont improve. Then guess what I push myself a lil over a year ago and look what it got me. It’s been over a year and I’m still recovering from a bad accident and broken a few bones with metal plate and a dozen of screws. Not everyone’s a pro and certainly don’t wish to be one since we each have our own priorities. I have kids they are my priority and riding is just my part time stress reliever. I love owning bike so much that I consider myself more of a collector than a rider since I just don’t have enough ride time therefore improving my skills is nonexistent. Thank you for keeping it real. Proud to have met you once in E-town!
Good for you, Ryan! I find their hot takes ridiculous. As a 55-yr old mtbr and new CZcamsr 😁 I am uploading videos where other people in their 50s, 60s and 70s will see me, an intermediate rider out there. My whole goal is to encourage people to keep riding, lift weights and see if we can still be on a bike in our 80s. So sorry Pinkbike if I'm not good enough, but the joy of bike is what it's all about for most of us.
I think Quinney has too great a voice at Pink Bike. I regularly listen to the podcast and hear him way too often, especially since he has such a narrow and rigid take on mountain biking (no type 1 fun for Quinney). They could do with a change of personality there.
I literally stopped listening to it. Bring back Mike or give us someone more positive.
it's nuts how annoying levy seemed much of the time, but jfc once he left everything was waayyy suckier.
Ryan, thank you for all the mtb content you have put out over the years! I took mountain biking up a few years ago, in my 40's, and channels like yours and @truerouteresearch have been instrumental in getting me absolutely addicted to this sport! The content with your family is particularly appealing as my wife and kids have embraced the sport as well. I look forward to many more years of finding inspiration through the content you provide!
Very well said man !
Thanks for speaking out, I’m a pretty ok rider with a good amount of hrs watching those videos from other riders trying not only to learn but to support the community. MTB has been a good and supportive community and hopefully stays like that. Thanks for standing up.
It's fun watching pros nail mind bending lines and drops, but I get just as much joy watching new riders progress. Maybe they did chicken out on that 3 ft drop in that video. But its so satisfying to see them nail it in the next video! Some perfect examples of people doing it right are Kara Beals and Jamie and Ben with Matt Jones. Seeing Jamie nail his first ever backflip was every bit as exciting as seeing Matt land any of his world firsts. Watching Kara go from barely being able to ride a bike, to becoming a better rider than me is WAY more inspiring to me as a rider than huge backflips off of cliffs for redbull. You may argue that these riders only got success because they had support from their pro friends, BUT THAT IS EXACLTY THE POINT!!! we want to be able to see the whole range of skill levels and progression, and big brands and their pro's need to be more aware of this. With all their skill and star power, Matt Jones and Tom Cardy they to use it to pull others up with them, rather than just look down at less experienced riders and gatekeep.
I really hope Pinkbike picks up on this, and will acknowledge that they they probably spoke without thinking, and that they do want to cater to all levels of biking, not just the rich and elite.