Do not buy the Garmin 67W dash cam! Long term review
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- I have had the 67W for 1.5 years in my F150, I do not think I need all the features on it but am very pleased with it, the main benefit of this one is the wide angle of view, which even in my truck covers the entire windshield. For most situations there is a better choice at a much lower price point - the Dash Cam Mini 2.
These are all the components and links to Amazon:
You can get the Garmin Dashcam Mini 2 from Amazon here: amzn.to/3JUZboU
And the Garmin 67W here: amzn.to/3Da9BNF
This is the Garmin Parking Guard cable I used: amzn.to/44JzhfJ
This is the Add-a-fuse that I used to hardwire the cam in to the Gen 3 Raptor: amzn.to/3DuEhtr
These are affiliate links, if you use them it helps my channel at no additional cost to you.
Hope this is useful!
I had a great question in the comments on this video about the files on the micro SD card in this dash cam. The system that Garmin uses can be confusing if yuo need to get at the files... and one day you WILL need to get at them for sure.
Here is the video: • How to download movie ... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
There is an argument for recording audio on a dash cam too, I'll list a few.
If you get pulled over and the cop make false claims, which they later deny, you have a record of what was said.
If you witness a driver doing something wrong (maybe a hit and run) and they are too far away for the camera to make out their plate, you can always verbally read it out, and know you have those details recorded.
In an accident, you might have spotted the other person acting erratic while out of frame and you commented on it, you now have recorded evidence on their driving leading up to the accident. Plus, you get the noises of a crash, like screeching tires, impacts to other vehicles and things that weren't in your cameras field of view. The purpose of a dash cam is to record evidence, so use it's full capabilities.
Those are valid arguments. I'd add one more, potentially if you are turning and need to prove that the directionals were activated, the clicking sound of the directionals would be heard on the audio recording inside the vehicle which could be enough to prove that you had activated them. Both the 67W and the Mini 2 have audio capability, turning it on and off is very simple.
Personally I believe that the frequency of private conversations inside my truck (daily) far exceeds the frequency of conversations at the drivers window with cops that they later deny (that is yet to happen to me), so in my case audio remains off.
@@ThisIsJulianC I guess it comes down to the nature of your private conversations and who/how you think others might end up listening.
@@ThisIsJulianC The primary purpose of a dashcam is to capture the complete sequence of events during an incident, should one occur (although I sincerely hope it never does). That's why I always ensure the audio is turned on as well.
By the way, when you extract or download a video from the dashcam, it's highly likely to be related to an incident, serving as crucial evidence. Hence, I prefer to keep the audio enabled.
Furthermore, dashcams typically operate in loop mode, alleviating any concerns about storing unrelated conversations. Within just two days, any previous video footage would have been automatically overwritten.
Recording audio within my vehicle doesn't infringe upon anyone's rights. The car serves as my personal, private space, and when someone enters it, I automatically reserve the right to record audio or any other happenings within my private domain. If anyone objects, they are free to choose not to enter. Nevertheless, it's my personal code of ethics and moral compass that prevents me from revisiting those recordings.
When I embark on journeys with my loved ones, sharing joyous moments, it's only natural to relish the opportunity to replay the scenic visuals and cherish the audio of their affectionate voices. These recordings serve as a precious way to preserve and revisit beautiful memories.
@@ThisIsJulianCif you have your cell phone in your vehicle that private conversation theory does not exist.
@@thefpvlife7785 Ha yes! Probably tracking my movements too 😂
This was the most worth while dash cam review that I’ve seen. Thanks for posting!
Glad it was helpful 👍
Great review. I appreciate the time you took to post.
Thanks - appreciate the feedback 👍
An excellent and very clear point of view. Your advice applies to most things tech - focus on buying the functionality that you really need rather than all of the whizz bang features that the marketers (and most tech reviewers) try to persuade you to want. I find it funny that most of the comments below are not about the video recording capabilities of dash cams, which s why most people buy them, but whether or not you should have the audio capture function permanently switched on. The Garmin Mini 2 happens to have an audio on/off switch on the side of the unit. So, if you really are that worried about trusting what the police will say, you have plenty of time to reach up and turn the audio on when you see the lights flashing behind you. Likewise. if you want to make an audio note of an erratic driver or of a number plate. I also agree that the Mini 2 is a good unit but, like you, I wonder why one of the world's leading GPS companies can't put a simple GPS function in the Mini 2 like my trusty Forerunner watch has.
The purpose of this video and others I am making is to present a real world view based on experience of using whatever the product is. I smile to myself when I read and watch marketing-driven content that is clearly designed to draw us in as potential purchasers. I believe Garmin left the GPS out of the Mini 2 in order to differentiate it and drive sales of the larger (ie more profitable) units for people who want GPS - which really should be everyone who wants a dash cam. On the subject of audio recording - I am enjoying the discussion and the comments have made me think more about the purpose of audio recording inside the vehicle... which is the purpose of the comments to create a discussion. Appreciate the feedback, more similar videos to come - thanks
Thank you so much for the information! I appreciate your opinion!
You are so welcome - glad it was helpful!
I've owned four different dashcams over the years. EVERY one of them would overheat and stop working. I finally got the 66W two years ago, and it has NEVER overheated or had any problems with it.
One thing I will NEVER buy again, is any dashcam with a 180 degree lense. (66W has it) All it does is get video of your dashboard and side panels. It has the usual fish-eye distortion and makes everything in front of you so small, you can barely see the license plates. Stick with 140 degree Garmin. MUCH better picture. My wife works in claims for an insurance company. She loves when claimants have dashcam footage, but hates the 180 degree ones. She says it's too hard to see anything.
Another tip. Use the SanDisk Extreme Pro micro SD. It is the fastest chip on the market. (Must say Pro). And I found that anything above 64g doesn't play back as well. Don't exactly know why, but my 128 and 256 never worked quite as well.
I recommend downloading the Drive app. It works fine, and you may need to download an incident out on the road one day.
As for the audio...I definitely turn it off. I curse like a sailor, I sing even worse and 80% of it would be filled with my wife yelling at me about my driving or not asking for directions.
Great video!
Thanks for the feedback. I like the wide angle of the 67W but I am not sure I would replace it with another wide angle model. it does become difficult to see details. I do like that it covers the entire field of view of the windshield however. Nice observation on the insurance opinion of wide cams, good to know.
I have recently turned on the audio recording on my camera, been convinced by some of the valid discussions on this video's comments. I switched to a smaller 32GB SD card to ensure that the audio recordings are overwritten frequently, which means no-one should be able to hear much of my singing if the card falls in to the wrong hands :-)
Not a fan of the drive app, probably because I am used to the Garmin Connect app for my watch, and that is one of the best non-apple apps on my iPhone. I think they could have used some of the same workflow etc on the Drive app as they did for Connect, but it feels like it was developed by a different company.
Really you will never buy again a 180 lens?
I am looking for it.
I never owned a dash cam and I suppose that a wide angle is better. Or not?😅
Anyway, this CZcamsr criticize Garmin but I would never buy brand that comes from EAST SIDE…if you know what I mean.
I don’t trust them at all!
I (we) dont know what they do with our data, how their servers works, what’s their idea of privacy.
I am in Europe and I want European/american brands.
Nothing else.
@@viplivesmatter Stick with 140. So much better
@@Herbie11 ok thanks
You are a very good CZcamsr and communicator, it’s so strange that you have only 3k followers.
You deserve much more.
Thank you! Every subscriber is greatly appreciated
Hi Julian, Thanks for your advice, I bought the Garmin 67W in the meantime. I also bought the parking mode attachment, as suggested by you. Without, it not would really be incomplete and the battery connection and parking alerts are important. I had the unit installed by an auto electrician. It worked well, however, it was installed in my Santa Fe too close to the 'blacked out area behind the center mirror/ many black dots on the windscreen". The videos/pictures had a part of the side screen not visible, due to its placement. This was rectified and now it is working well and showing a full screen view.
I found that the instructions were partly poorly written, as it did not tell you how to disengage the 'Driver Awareness Features and Alerts'. In my case they were not required, as the Hyundai had them built in already. I managed the deactivation later and now all is working fine.
Thanks once again and kind regards, George
Glad it was helpful 👍
I like the audio with the dash cam. I often watch old videos of my past drives and listen to the music I was playing at that time and my conversations with my partner. So, at least to me, it is a nice feature. In case of an accident, if you don't want your private conversion to be included, you can easily edit it.
I changed my mind and did a complete u-turn on the dashcam audio discussion - czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
Very useful thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I am a long-haul truck driver, I have the Garmin 55 currently I’ve had this one since 2019. Been using Garmin for over 10 years and they have gotten me out of 4 accidents without getting a ticket. Every accident I’ve been in the other party claimed I hit them and my Garmin has proven my innocence every time.
I do agree, however, that the Garmin software would not be fun to use if I had to use it on a daily basis it’s kind of clunky like he says in the video I think, but for those emergencies it is reliable.
Sounds like it has paid for itself many times over. My truck has the more recent dash cams in it, my car has a Dash Cam 35 which is now 9 years old, no need to change it, still going strong (although the battery doesnt last long at all now). Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your straight up information.
You are welcome thanks for the feedback
Great video, Julian. Definitely weighing in your feedback now that I'm deciding on a dash cam. Thank you!
Quick unrelated question-- what camera was this video (your narration) shot on? The quality is fantastic.
Thanks for the feedback and the comments. Which dashcam did you decide upon?
I generally use my Sony A7C for video, audio is a Rode NTG mic positioned just out of shot.
Thank you for sharing 😊
My pleasure 😊
You can get the Garmin dashcam mini 2 from Amazon here: amzn.to/3JUZboU
And the Garmin 67W here: amzn.to/3Da9BNF
This is the Garmin Parking Guard cable I used: amzn.to/44JzhfJ
This is the Add-a-fuse that I used to hardwire the cam in to the Gen 3 Raptor: amzn.to/3DuEhtr
These are affiliate links, if you use them it helps the channel at no additional cost to you.
Hope this is useful!
good clear honest video, thank you
Thanks for the feedback 👍👍
Great review. Thank you.
You are welcome… glad you liked it!
Some after market Alarm systems have the GPS real time tracking capability, let you set if over certain mph, out of geo fencing, could work wonderfully with a dash cam. Majority of alarms from the vehicle manufacturer DO NOT do glass breakage, vehicle tilt as if it were being towed. We have such an Alarm system in our 2012 Ford Raptor with a cheap dash cam, sound off, turn it on IF we need it.
Sounds a good combination. There has been a lot of discussion here about the audio recording, it has been a good debate. How do you like the Raptor… is that a Gen 1 6.2?
Did you install the two power cables yourself for having two separate cameras? If so, did you have to tap 4 different fuses? 2 constant power and 2 switches fuses? Plenty of videos on installing one power cable but haven’t seen anything on 2. Thank you for the review.
The front camera is on a Parking Guard cable connected to the fuse box in the passenger footwell. The rear camera, the Garmin Mini 2 is using the USB cable that came with it. I didn’t need a parking guard cable, the usb was long enough to route to the usb outlet in the F150 center console. There is a wiring video in editing right now, should be released in the next couple of days.
I recently started using a Garmin Dash Cam 47. So far, I really like it. But I definitely agree on what was said about the Garmin Drive app. Its very.....wonky (?) and getting it to connect is super difficult. Like was said in the video, I just pull the sd card if I want to get any footage saved to my computer. I really wish they would improve the app because I really like my Garmin dash cam.
I have given up with the app. I connect it now only to change settings which does not happen very often. I get notifications about the Parking Guard being activated but it seems even a pedestrian walking on a path in front of my truck triggers the parking guard record function. Glad you like your Garmin 47, thanks for the comments
Thanks for the detailed review. Looks like your needs in dascam seems pretty specific. Importance of close either using your own smartphone hotspot or LTE is that if there is an incident and the other party is a seasoned criminal, they can just snatch your dascam and either take it away or crush it ( there goes your proof for insurance company or court). additional features does not mean more money spent, it’s just may be because they already have it in the video processing chipset and enabling it. I guess I can keep arguing for most of our points. Most customers are going to be people who don’t want to do professional wiring and pay 2 times the cost of dascam to some mechanic. That’s why wiring is simple plug and play and most won’t mind the visible wiring because they just don’t Wang some stupid mechanic to rip them of few hundred dollars and sometimes end up screwing the existing wires or do a wrong wire. Since you have a very specific use case, I guess this is not for you.
Glad you liked it 👍
LTE is great for a trucker like me that is always in the road, trust me it comes handy, thanks for sharing your experience
I had a great question in the comments on this video about the files on the micro SD card in this dash cam. The system that Garmin uses can be confusing if yuo need to get at the files... and one day you WILL need to get at them for sure. Here is the video:
czcams.com/video/LdR2hrrN0hE/video.html
Hey Gulian, great videe btw.I have the 67W for few months now and reason why I'm here, is that I here you can use it (67W) with Mini 2 at the same time, like in the front and back scenario, just would to confim that they actually can sync together when let's say download an accident footage. Have you tried them together?, thanks
Hi - thanks for the feedback. That is the set up I have on my F150; th 67W up front and the Mini 2 facing out the rear window. I have a video in production right now with more info on this, should be posted later this week.
U want the camera to record audio just in case ur pulled over by the cops
Good point!
You can activate sound recording IF you need it couldn't you?
@@sarejen6868 yes correct, you can activate it in the menu on the unit and also in the app.
@@sarejen6868hello officer, please wait until I fumbled on the mini screen, I'll be right back for you
You can just do it on your phone too
What would the best dash cam for front and rear that you think will be good long term? I have a Honda Ridgeline pickup and keep reading reviews... confusing!!
It is a confusing marketplace right now with so many brands and models. Here are my thoughts.
(1) There are some dash cams available that are a combined front & rear camera in one unit. This will be easier to install than two separate cameras which is the only real benefit, but you end up with a relatively large bulky unit mounted on your windshield. I do not recommend those units, mainly because of their size.
(2) My suggestion is that you get two of the Garmin Dashcam Mini 2 units, they are $129 each at Amazon but sometimes on sale (not right now, I just checked). The brand and the build quality are excellent especially for the price. They are small, discrete and basic but thats all we really need in my view. The only important miss is GPS which may be useful in a situation where you need the video to confirm your location, but in most cases the image of the surroundings that the camera is recording can confirm the location. By having two cameras you will need two power cables installed.
If I needed to replace any of my dash cams right now in trucks or cars, that is what I would do.
Hope this helps
Great comments, thank you. I am about to buy a Garmin ^&W because the Garmin Mini has not such a great camera. In your opinion does this matter?
I agree with you about all the other rather superfluous features on the 67W, not required.
Having a quality camera is already the best solution and any of the Garmins provide that. You do get better video quality with the 67w (1440 60fps) vs the Mini 2 (1080 30fps) so if that’s important then go for the 67W. Hope this helps
I love your video and the way you presented your experiences and thoughts.
I know you said you don't use any of the vault or cloud features, but that's something that interests me about this camera specifically.
I live in an area where carjacking is not uncommon, and I've experienced three attempted vehicle thefts of cars parked in front of my house in recent years, one of which resulted in the loss of my truck until police found it.
I'm interested in getting the mini 2 and connecting it to my home wifi so that I could get alerts and footage if this happened again, or at least view a live feed from inside my home.
Would this work adequately for remote viewing or should I look elsewhere?
I think I understand that you want to have it connected to the home Wi-Fi so it will alert you? That might work but I don’t think that’s how they designed it so it might be unreliable. Is the car visible from your home, can you maybe put a security camera at your home looking at the car? That might get a better angle too
@@ThisIsJulianC Yeah we have security cameras looking at where I normally park, but the angle is super wide and we can't get much detail there. I was referring to what Garmin calls the "remote live view" which is a feature of the mini 2/ 47/57/67W cameras but not earlier ones, which connects the camera to a wifi LAN to view remotely like a security cam. I also just learned that this current gen "parking guard" dropped person detection events so that almost entirely kills my use case for it :(
Great video. Thanks. My 67W stopped alerting me of lane departures and red light cams etc. Tech support had me do a full factory reset/firmware update etc. Turns out the GPS part of it has died. No longer under warranty. I was offered a link to buy a "recertified" one at a discount and return my old one. Not sure what I will do at this point (maybe just keep it and use it strictly for a dash cam without any bells and whistles). Although, about a month ago I pulled the card and was surprised that the video I was looking for, while quite clear, I was unable to read a license plate of a truck that had run a stop sign coming the other direction. So now you see why I'm hesitant buying a refurb when I'm not impressed with captured video. I think I may have to consider a 4K cam. Suggestions??? Thanks!
License plate readability is not consistent with any dashcam I have tested to date, regardless of resolution. They are much better at capturing the action/event than smaller to read details no matter how critical they might be. Since this video viewers have convinced me that dash cam audio recording the best way to capture the license plate detail (read it out loud).
My experience of Garmin after sales support has been generally good, I have had to return two watches out of warranty over the past 20 years and they have offered something similar to you, a deep discount for a replacement which in both cases was a new watch (even though they said it would be a refurb). However if you are not confident with the video quality you are getting maybe skip paying for a replacement 67W and look at alternatives.
@@ThisIsJulianC Thanks for the feed back. Any suggestions for a replacement to consider?
The Garmin 57 does a better job of capturing detail than the 67W
Resolution and wide angle of the lens are 2 factors that determine clarity of detail.
The 67 has 1440 resolution and a 180º wide angle lens
The 57 has 1440 resolution and a 140º wide angle lens
The 180º has more area to record so the pixels are smaller, hence, less clarity of details like a license plate.
I am also a sucker for Garmin products here (N. AMerica) but also when I was in EU. I'm a truck driver so while I do understand your view point mine is a bid different. For me my dashcam was with all the options that it has (audio, timelapse while trucking is great, and even the app to show a police office that he was wrong) I do have to agree that the bloody app be it for the dashcam or for my truck gps sucks BIG TIME and slow AF. I do wish they would bring a 4k dashcam as atm I am using my phone with and app and it's a bit complicated for the phone to remain cool while doing all of that. I did try other dashcam for my trucking job but none came close to the field of view of the Garmin, after 5 years of ownership it more than made it's money worth.
I still hate the app… I have been taking footage off the cam for various YT videos and find it much easier just to pull the memory card and download from that. I don’t find I need the app for anything else. Thanks for sharing your story 👍
Would a workflow be something like: Garmin 67W on dash, capturing video, then if you're in an accident, you use your USB-C to SD adapter plugged into your phone 15 pro (for example)to pull up your footage? Would an iPhone be able to read the card right out of the Garmin unit to handle this? I've never used the adapter with an iPhone 15 pro, and you can use the lightning version for older iPhone models, but this workflow would make sense to avoid the app all together while maintaining a real-time pull of the footage to first responders/police at the accident scene.
I have not tried the direct connection method, the 67W uses Micro USB so you would need a USB-C to Micro USB cable to do that, even then I am not sure if an iPhone would be able to access the files. The first option you mentioned would work, a USB-C to SD adapter plugged in to your iPhone, just pull the memory card out of the Garmin and put it in the SD card adapter. Whenever I want to access the files on the Garmin dash cams I always pull the memory card.
I have spent weeks now, trying to decide which dashcam to get, and honestly, thank you,i have an option of kenwood 501 with hardwore kit, gps and polarizer for 240 (bundle), and two vantrues e3 and n4 that require all stuff to be bought separately, running over 100 more expensive. Think im gonna go with kenwood, what so you think? 😊 12:21
I'm on my 5th dashcam (all different manufacturers) All overheated in the summer heat. I got the Garmin 66W two years ago. Not a single problem. I'm currently sitting in 100 degree direct Sun, and it just keeps on working. Never had a Kenwood, but Garmin has been good to me.
I have good experience with Kenwood auto audio but have not tried their dash cams. So long as they are developing their own dashcam products, and not just putting their brand name on a generic dashcam, then it has a good chance of being supported for as long as you own/use it.
Like others have said here I have had multiple Garmin dash cams over the years; none of them have failed, they only get replaced to be upgraded. Let me know what you decide.
I do not understand why the video recording of the camera is found in two folders. ? The 100EVENT and 105UNSVD folders.
I have recordings where part of it is in one folder and the other in another.
Difficult to find a recording afterwards.
And all the videos have a number instead of a date.
Take a look at this video - it explains the file locations and what they are for. Hope this helps
czcams.com/video/LdR2hrrN0hE/video.html
I used the sound recorded in a wreck back in February 2023. The claim adjuster said I was able to hear your turn signal get clicked on and was clicking before the rear end crash. So yea want to record sound. In other words my speed was recorded as I was turning in the alley and the person in back of me had adequate warning I was turning.
That reads like a true real-world example of what many of us have been discussing in the comments on this video. Thanks for sharing
Great video Julian! I have the 67W & the Mini 2, have had them both for two years.Great products!👍👍🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thanks for your feedback! Do you have them in two vehicles or is the Mini 2 facing out the back?
@@ThisIsJulianC one in each vehicle.The 67w in our main vehicle & the Mini2 in my little Fiesta. Think they are really good dash cams.
@@hackney7106 if you could only buy one, which garmin would you choose?
I'm tempted to get the 67W based on a lot of the positives mentioned in this video. I have to ask though, what do people do when they would like a rear facing camera too?
I put a Mini 2 facing out the back of my truck, I published a follow up video about that, let me know if you can’t find it I’ll send you the link.
I am not a fan of the Garmin Drive app, but it does allow you to create a video with front and rear footage included, when you need it.
Hi Julian, I don’t want to put the dash cam on the glass.
I want to put the dash cam in a different position:
If I buy a 360 dash cam,
I would put the dash cam among the front seats, on a headrest support (similar to action cam in really cars)
If I buy a 180 dash cam,
I would like to put on the rear seats, so the view is on the street and the sides.
What do you think about it?
Thanks
(Sorry my English is not perfect)
If you want to avoid putting the dash cam on the glass I would look at one that mounts on the rear view mirror. I am not familiar with 360 dash cams.
@@ThisIsJulianC ok thanks ❤️
Audio is actually super important. For example if your worried about not capturing license plates you can simply read them aloud for the camera
Agree - there was a lot of discussion on the subject of dash cam audio in the weeks after I published this video. Those discussions caused me to u-turn on my opinion about recording audio with a dash cam. There was a follow up video - sorry for the shameless plug but its here if you want to take a look: czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.htmlsi=Lr5L5SYc6jXstQTx
@@ThisIsJulianC I will definitely check out the follow up video. I found your review very helpful and educational! I’ve never owned a dash cam before so brand reliability is important to me and I love garmin products. I agree with all your points. For the price garmin is asking I wish they would have better hardware like 4K capable sensors instead of more “features”. I trust garmin as a company but they can do much better. Has your car battery ever died after having parking mode on with the parking mode hard wired to your fuse box? I’m really worried about that. Garmin said the $35 harness attempts to prevent the battery from dying and turns off 10 mins before it sense a low battery
@@29CLOUDZMy battery has never died but I have set a time limit on Parking Guard in the camera options, it operates for 8 hours and then shuts off so the chance that it would kill my battery, even if the cable was monitoring the battery level, is very low. I put a Garmin Dash Cam Mini 2 in the rear of my truck a couple of months ago, if you don’t need the GPS honestly the Mini 2 is a terrific camera, you get the lower price point and still get the rock solid Garmin brand reputation.
Can I plug the dash cam in to one of the Garmin Navigators for power? Just ordered an 890…
I have spent time looking for any info on this and cannot find any - sorry!
Question I don't have Dashcam now in vehicle. I'm planning on buying new vehicle next month or two.
So want dashcam for insurance purposes if needed.
So looking at this could use in new vehicle as well as old.
Not really interested in parking feature mode. But the Dashcam would be taken out multiple times.
So would Garmin 67w be better than the mini 2 in this instance?
The only real critical benefit the 67W has over the Mini 2 is the GPS data overlay on the video. I would not pay the extra for Parking Mode on the 67W and definitely would not pay for the monthly subscription. I like the GPS feature, and the wider angle lens of the 67W so I am happy with my choice. If you don't care for the GPS data overlay then I would get the Mini 2.
@juliancass Thanks
I just moved out of city and owned my own cars for over 40yrs. Don't leave things in sight in vehicle. The dummies still break-in to ramble. My car was parked behind 7 foot tall fence most of the time. But last 4yrs I parked on street in front of my house often overnight. Nothing in sight.
Now I will park in driveway in semi rural area. But wouldn't leave dashcam in plain sight overnight. So that's what mean removing from mount multiple times.
Also do any of the Garman dashcam have ability to run a rear mounted additional cam to point from rear window?
@@fredmoss4540Yes thats possible, the Garmin Drive app can have two cameras set up for the same vehicle, say one for the front and one for the rear view. They can be set up as a picture-in-picture in the app too although I have not tried that. If you have a GPS enabled cam up front and then a Mini 2 (no GPS) for the rear the app will apply the GPS data to the combo of the two cameras.
my thoughts, Mini 2 as my rear camera, now my front camera? I want GPS but do I want 180 view? I know garmin has 47,57,67W and 67W is the one with wide view. For the small prive difference is it worth it in your opinion?
I like the wide field of view of the 67W because it is on my truck, and I get a full width view out of the windshield (just). The 47 and 57 are both just as good otherwise. My recommendation hasn't really changed - if you don't need GPS or don't want it then just get the Mini 2, front and rear.
@@ThisIsJulianC So what is the real reason we shouldn`t buy the Garmin 67W dash cam? You just want views with the click bait? but you only got very few views out of it. Dude
Excellent video Julian. I'm considering buying a Garmin 57 dashcam for my 2020 Focus Titanium. The car has pre collision assist and Lane keeping capability as standard, so those features are redundant for me. I don't believe the extra 40 degree viewing angle on the 67W would make that much difference, and in reality that is the ONLY difference between the 2 but for £30 extra for the 67W here in the UK
Thanks. The 57 is a great dash cam, I do not think you will miss the wider FOV of the 67W at all.
You turn on this video and instantly see an in focus image, well lit face and know this person is going to shed genuine knowledge on cameras. Thanks for your video ; it was refreshing after all the potato videos.
Ha! Potato videos - love it 🤣
Really good video! thank you for posting! I understand the argument to some of the features, and the app, being unnecessary at times.
I think this could more of a user preference thing. The app seems to have a high overall review on the ios store.
I was deciding on which dash cam to buy for my bmw I3 and even with the cons you pointed out, here in Europe, the 67W model is going for 159,00 euros which might be a good deal considering the reliability of the brand and what this particular model can offer.
I agree Garmin is a reliable brand for a dashcam. I do like my 67W a lot, I just think its overkill for most people. If you decide it is the one for you I do not think it will disappoint.
The best reason is for safety purposes on rough areas. So that’s why it’s necessary.
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How about using GoPro as dash cam? App is superior. You could have 4k video or better. Pricewise is very similar. And if you are outdoor trailblazer you just grab it when hitting the trails. Any thoughts about that?
People do use GoPros instead of a dash cam, just set the recording to loop and it will operate the same way. A lot of motorcyclists will use GoPro's in this way too, either bike or helmet mounted. If you are running at 4K eventually it will overheat so I don't think you could use it for long multi hour journeys without it shutting down.
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People will break into your 🚗 to steal your GoPro 📸
I bought a Garmin Tandem because of the 2 cameras and the great viewing angles. I didn't bother about too much about the app, but the camera itself stops recording randomly and it only shows a static image of its own last breath. I have seen many people complaining about this issue also so I just returned it to the store and asked for my money back. If you were thinking that Tandem would be a nice reliable (and expensive) camera that you would want to buy, that is wrong.
Doesn't sound a good experience. I have not tried the Tandem, I have never liked the idea of a visible bulky camera.
Wrt hyper-lapse and publishing to SoMe, you could easily provide video stabilization in post processing.
Good point - thanks
Hey great video but what should xe buy than?
If you do not need/want GPS then my recommendation in this video is the Mini 2. It has all the features you need and nothing more. If you really want/need GPS then get the 67W. Hope this helps
@@ThisIsJulianC thank you very much for replying fast i need one with dual cam for taxi which isn't too expensive thank you very much in advance Julian
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I have the Garmin 66W in my vehicle. And I think the quality is superb, but I run mine at 1080p at 60fps. A good quality SD card rated for video helps. You always want to leave your audio on the dash cam, so you don't have to play words when it comes to talking to cops.
Good points and thanks for sharing. If you are at 60 fps are you finding clearer still images when you pull them from the footage? Might be more likely to get a clearer image of a license plate for example.
@@ThisIsJulianC Yes, I get better clearer still images
@@scottpenrod5386 OK thanks... I'll go make the change on mine
One point about the microphone inside the car most people miss. It is not about the cops, it is abut a fact you can aid the recording by saying out loud number plates of the other vehicle in case it wont be readable on the screen.
Take a look at this follow up video - its an update on this dash cam audio discussion - czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
Not my idea but - say aloud the LICENSE PLATE NUMBER in case (as is likely) the camera isn't clear enough.
Good idea 👍 …. Is this from experience have you had to do that at some time?
I did a video about this audio recording discussion here: czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
I had a 57W and upgraded to 67W mainly due to the poor resolution of the 57, which had no chance of reading license plates for oncoming vehicles. The 67 is better, but not amazing. Like you, I never use the app. It's clunky, and you only want to use it in an "event". All it would take for this entire dashcam market to disappear is for car manufacturers to leverage the camera sensors already built in and simply enable the ability to record to an external storage device like Tesla does. My car has 360 degree cameras, so why can't I simply plug in a removable storage device and record?
Agree with your idea - the ability to be able to record from 360 degree cameras that are already installed on your car/truck is a no brainer for everyone it seems except the auto manufacturers. Other than Tesla who have done a fantastic integration. Tesla’s system is helped by the significant battery capacity in their cars.
Get one without the 180 degree lens. The 140 degree has MUCH better video clarity. The wide versions (180 degree) are distorted and way too wide to capture license plates clearly.
I'd love to have one that I can check while someone's using my jeep to see where they are.
Then you need this Garmin Dash Cam - this one has always on LTE: amzn.to/3PrAnI6
I wish they made a dashcam that has the features I want. They are:
1. Small form factor for the camera so it isn't seen.
2. Brains and screen located elsewhere to keep it safe and facilitate 1 above.
3. A screen. I do not want to use my phone for everything and I've had issues with updating my phone and then apps don't work.
4. Waterproof rear camera for external mounting (I have a convertible).
5. Better external power supply capability, so as not to drain my car battery, (external power pack for instance, could be part of the unit in 2 above).
6. Reasonable price ($200 - $300).
7. High heat capability. I live in a hot climate.
All of these features are available separately, but not in one unit as far as I can tell. I also don't need a lot of features. I don't need GPS or cloud storage I have to pay monthly for, although I understand the reasoning. There are several other features they keep adding, but it's the hardware I think that needs to updated, like the newer sensor that just came out.
Thats a good list, I too am not aware of anything that meets that spec list. The stuff they add is a lot of software driven features, so they can add 'value' in their minds to justify higher prices but at little to no additional hardware cost to them. I'll keep your list in mind as I check out new models as they are released. BTW enjoyed your microwave with a car jack video :-)
@@ThisIsJulianC Thanks. I feel the same way. Just add more 'features' that aren't really that substantial when considering the purpose of the device. Wow! You actually saw that microwave with a car jack video? LOL. Forgot I even made that.
If you have the mic on you may hear your car being hit when the camera doesn't see the car that hit you, on the sides of the car. For example, if you are on the highway and someone bumps the side of your car, you will be able to hear it even if you can't see it. Might help. I have seen videos on youtube where you can hear the car get hit but can't see the car that did it.
See this follow up video for a major U-turn on dash cam audio... czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
I’m a truck driver, would you recommend this dash cam?
For a light truck definitely yes, the 180 degree view on this dash cam works well for the truck’s windshield. The footage on the video is from my ‘21 Raptor so that should give a good idea. If you are talking about a semi it will still be better than a regular dash cam that doesn’t have the 180 degree view, but I can’t say if the field of view will cover the full width of the hood and windshield. Hope this helps
I have the same model camera but first generation (2018) on my Volvo VNL 670 and love it. In the middle of the windshield it captures all of it
@@CaramidaruAndreiBogdan That helps a lot - thanks!
You record audio because of this thing called "Fun", and you can't use a GoPro as a dashcam for a hyperlaspse video because they can't record for super long and they overheat
I haven’t heard of dash cam audio being recorded for fun before 😁
I do use GoPros for hyperlapses while driving, I have never had one overheat though.
I've got the Garmin Dash Cam mini 2 and would not recommend it due to it not having one of the features the 67W has.... a screen.
I was in a collision only a few days ago in which my car was written off after another driver failed to yield at a give way and ran into me. On checking the contents of the SD card I discovered it hadn't recorded anything in the last 10 weeks despite the LED on the device showing it was on and recording.... this is why I am now watching reviews of dash cams looking for something better.
...and yes... the Garmin Drive app is clunky garbage. It takes that long to connect and show the captured images it is usually quicker to pull the SD and insert it into a PC.
Really sorry to hear about the collision. You raise a really good point that it is worth checking the recording status of any dashcam, regardless of model on a regular basis to make sure they are recording well. I can see the led on my Dashcam Mini 2 in my rear view mirror (it is looking backwards on my rear windshield) and I assume that all is well.... I will check it now. Thanks for sharing.
Thinkware motorcycle cam has separate brain box thus keeping it away from extreme windshield heat which seems to kill dash cams 🔥
Good to know
a couple points to record sound might be to capture an impact the dashcam(s) did not see. I was side swiped on the highway doing about 60mph. I had video front and rear (2 cameras) of a silver 350z coming and going but not hitting me. I also had a sound to identify the modified exhaust. The sound highlighted the conscious, run part of the hit and run incident.
You raise some good points for sure, and more valuable because they are based on your direct experience. There have been a ton of discussions in these comments about the use of audio. Because of that I turned the audio option ‘on’ in my truck a few weeks ago. Thanks for sharing your story
I did a video about this audio recording discussion here: czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
So if you don’t recommend this garmin !! What should I get ?
There are two recommendations in this video. If you don't need GPS then get the Dashcam Mini 2, which is the best option for most people. If you do want GPS then buy the 67W.
Ok thank you. Just ordered mini 2.
Audio is useful for a road rager coming up to your car, evidence you were aware, reading out number plates you camera can't see but you can (almost everything beyond 5 metres),
Record sound of impact when someone denies impact and claims damage is already there.
If you're experiencing a medical episode you can voice this prior to accident.
If you're stuck in your car and likely to die, you can record last words for loved ones or that A-hole you never liked.
Thanks. After this video was published there was some terrific discussions on the audio topic in the comments ... which was quite compelling and led me to publicly u-turn on my opinion about dash cam audio. See this video that was published a month or two later czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
I'd buy the mini 2, but wish it was 4k.
Yeah the Mini 2 doesn't do that. The 67W is only 1440 too.
The Mini 2 is good, but as you say , no GPS.
The 67W does have a 180 degree fish eye wide angle, which can be useful, although two mini-2 at each corner of the windscreen pointing outwards could capture even more angle !
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@@ThisIsJulianC and on a Honda Jazz (Honda Fit in the USA) , the highly angled windscreen makes the 180 degree view a bit pointless ! It captures lots of dashboard and the central Honda camera section behind the rear view driving mirror.
It might be good on the back window, because that's vertical.
Trust me , I've just tried a 67W . I might keep it, and use it on the back window, but I'm currently thinking a 140 deg angle is better for the front wind screen, with as I said , one in each corner !
why stop at 2
The primary purpose of a dashcam is to capture the complete sequence of events during an incident, should one occur (although I sincerely hope it never does). That's why I always ensure the audio is turned on as well.
By the way, when you extract or download a video from the dashcam, it's highly likely to be related to an incident, serving as crucial evidence. Hence, I prefer to keep the audio enabled.
Furthermore, dashcams typically operate in loop mode, alleviating any concerns about storing unrelated conversations. In my case, within just two days, any previous video footage would have been automatically overwritten.
Recording audio within my vehicle doesn't infringe upon anyone's rights. The car serves as my personal, private space, and when someone enters it, I automatically reserve the right to record audio or any other happenings within my private domain. If anyone objects, they are free to choose not to enter. Nevertheless, it's my personal code of ethics and moral compass that prevents me from revisiting those recordings.
When I embark on journeys with my loved ones, sharing joyous moments, it's only natural to relish the opportunity to replay the scenic visuals and cherish the audio of their affectionate voices. These recordings serve as a precious way to preserve and revisit beautiful memories.
Good points thanks for sharing 👍
One thing the Mini 2 is missing also is an internal battery. So no (30 min) parking monitor.
My truck provides power to the USB port for about 45 minutes after engine shut off, so I get that amount of time of parking monitor, but I appreciate thats going to differ for every make & model of vehicle.
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Thanks!
An easy one for audio recording is some prick starts shooting in your area, or you come across a chasing in progress, you can catch the sound and cross-examine it with some other footage based on time. very specific I know, but having seen some police activity videos, I happened to notice that, wether it was some neighboor's camera or some car passing by had it on it's dash cam, so yeah there's that.
I turned my audio recording on a few weeks ago, the comments on this video make a good case for audio recording.
I did a video about this audio recording discussion here: czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
In the event of a hit and run where it's quite possible the camera won't clearly show a license plate then having the audio recording on is beneficial as you can verbally say the plate number out loud.
I can imagine myself quickly forgetting a plate number in this situation.
Plus...how else are strangers supposed to know how good your taste in music is?!!
Ha ha yes! Music choice is important.
A couple of month after this video was published I did a total U-turn on the dash cam audio topic, motivated entirely by the comments and discussions prompted by this video. You can find the update here czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
The point recording sound inside the vehicle it’s for Uber and Lyft drivers …
See this follow up video for a major U-turn on dash cam audio... czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
I don’t like the fact that even though it’s supposedly recording it doesn’t save anything unless you manually save. If you have an accident you better press the button or do the voice command to save within 15 seconds.
That’s true but it doesn’t delete them that quickly. A solution is to have a large micro sd card, it will only overwrite the files when it is full and then rewrites over the top of them in order. So if you have a 64GB card or larger you will have more than enough time to pull the card or download the files before anything is overwritten.
Main reason I would want a dashcam is to upload a weird and wacky vid to Dashcams Australia. The ones with audio where you can hear the driver saying “what the F you stupid F-ing C” are far more entertaining 🚘
That is a good point 😆 and another good reason to keep the audio recording switched on!
I did a video about this audio recording discussion here: czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
i love my Garmin 67W its small and captures what i want and i move it between my cars. But you are right, the Garmin Drive SUCKS!!! i have yet to have a successful firmware update and ive had it for 3 years.
I have had mine now for almost two years and do not recall a successful firmware update either.
Why record sound inside car? Because it can help you. Besides, here is a commentary form under another video on dashcams: "My #1 rule with dashcams: go off the assumption that it didn't capture the license plate so leave the audio recording on and say the license plate."
There was a follow up to this video that covered audio recording and the reasons why it makes sense:
Record SOUND with a Dash Cam - Garmin 67W & Garmin Mini 2 audio recording in a Ford F150 Raptor
czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
I can definitely see the point of view you have but if I'm a manufacturer my product must cover the majority market which a large part being those people who upload regular dash cam videos weekly. Btw if you car is used for crime knowing before or during so that you can report to police ASAP goes a long way. Many people get caught up when the criminal claims they know you and you let them use the car. Also many criminals get their operations closed thanks to footage that went live and they thought was gone when they ditched the camera. It's useful when thinking beyond me only me.
Good points
1:38 Garmin
5:18 sound inside vehicle
7:45 Garmin app
11:25 vs Mini 2
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@@ThisIsJulianC Julian, may I make a question? I am interested in parking mode but somewhere on CZcams I read that Garmin dash-cam detect only impact, and impact must be strong, they don’t detect motion.
I want to know if someone during the night moves around my car, look inside, try to open the door without impact, you know what I mean?
So really Garmin Dash Cam doesn’t have motion detection and they only detect impact?
I have this dashcam and the number plates are all illegible in all footage except when sometimes behind someone at traffic lights. For me that makes this not fit for purpose.
It is only 1440 resolution
Yes there are worse spec cameras out there that produce legible footage. The extreme wide angle is partly responsible for an effectively lower resolution. It also the footage is grainy and choppy
WTF "DO NOT BUY THIS" then in the description "I like this camera here's a link to buy it" 🙄
For most people the 67W is overkill, unless you need GPS. The Mini 2 is a better choice otherwise.
I have two front and rear garmin dash cams and they are utter crap. Well like you say the dash cam are fine but the app and vault are awful . Never connecting , or losing connection.
Going with Nextbase and selling my Garmin.
I never use the app - last time I did was to record a YT video on dash cam audio recording. I don’t have a need for the app on a regular basis. The cameras themselves are super robust and reliable which is what I am looking for in dash cams.
Not familiar with Nextbase but they seem to be ok
You seem to contradict yourself. You're telling us to not buy it and at the same time giving us the link to order. Which is which, Sir?
I like it a lot I just think that there are too many features that are not needed leading to a higher price. In my opinion it’s not worth it but I do not regret buying. The Mini 2 is at a much lower price point yet still has most of the needed features, in my view it is the better choice for that reason.
Comment: The feature you skipped over is the 180 degree field of view, except it isn't that wide in reality, but it is wider than most others. Incidents are not confined to a the front of the vehicle. People drive out of side streets or through red lights and hit you from the side. Cyclists ride off pavements or filter past and claim you close passed. A purely front facing device misses that. The 67W has a better chance. Rear facing isn't satisfactory either. What Garmin and others need to produce is a front and side facing set up.
See 2:35 that’s where the wide angle lens and 180 degrees is referenced. If you are looking for a field of view all around your car you are going to be looking for something more like the Tesla integrated camera system rather than an aftermarket dashcam unit.
@@ThisIsJulianC I didn't mean you didn't mention it, I just thought side view was not given much attention. Tesla? Bllllgh! Diesel all the way.
What happened? Garmin hurt your feelings?
Not as long as they keep making awesome products like these
I think a dashcam is good for corporate use.
If you mean for fleet owners then yes agree
It would be nice if you focus on the basic details that you mentioned needed for dash cam like at least giving us a sample video of how reliable the dash footage is. Thanks anyway, I will definitely NOT buy a Garmin dashcam.
There is sample footage from the Garmin 67W in this video.
Recording for cops "they lie" and it's legal for them to lie.
I had a change of heart on dash cam audio recording - see here czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
Document everything but your speed!!! All you need to document is a video of what happen. All the rest is evidence that can be used against you.
That means turning off the GPS capture on the video footage. The GPS will show your location and your speed
@@ThisIsJulianC in this day and age if your speed shows a few miles over the limit either your insurance or the police will have something to say! Never give those too ammo they will use it against u. It's called evidence!
This poster can't think of any reason to have sound recordings?
When a cop and/or insurance company tries to say something happened a certain way, having audio may help prove the following:
Sirens
Horns
Screeching tires
Weather conditions
Volume of music
Proof if you were on the phone
Turn signal clicks to prove when you activated signal
Conversation had with a cop at your window
Calling out license plate or other information that may not be visually recorded
There have been countless times that having audio documentation of all the above has saved someone from jail time and/or expensive law suits.
There has been a lot of debate on this topic in the comments for this video. There was a subsequent follow up video - czcams.com/video/5vKzIJizb9A/video.html
5:30. If you owned a business that had company vehicles. Sound recording would be a good way to keep tabs on your employees. It is your vehicle, you have the right to know what's going on inside it.
That can depend on local laws - some countries / states require one or more of the parties in the conversation to provide permission for that conversation to be recorded.
unlike the video just for the clickbait title!
Good for you 👏
The title accurately summarizes the conclusion of the video. You do know what clickbait means right 🤣🤣
I need the GPS. Won't be buying the mini.
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So what is the real reason we shouldn`t buy the Garmin 67W dash cam? You just want views with the click bait? but you only got very few views out of it. Dude
Overpriced and loaded with unnecessary features.
Julian, you'd make a really good politician because you can keep repeating the obvious, presented as if it's the first time anyone has heard or thought of it. Like your waffle about dashcams. I'm guessing the only people who don't know what a dashcam is Tibetan yak herders. Honestly, after 5 minutes I had to switch off because all I heard was you wheel spinning. 'You don't like this feature [despite installing it] but others might'. Does that even need stating? If you have something to say, say it with conviction, otherwise, keep it to yourself.
Glad you liked it 👍😀
Sorry, NOT very useful, you dislike the app (main complaint, and a paid /optional feature), yet mostly enjoy the camera...
The main differences between the Mini 2 and yours you havent really focused on/noted -- have you tried a non-wideangle cam vs not? Mini NOT wide angle -- depends on how much thats valued (most say really highly).
No screen to calibrate view with the mini? I could see this maybe being an asset against thieves, but not much else.. Was hoping for more here, besides a negative review from a Brit living in America, which stereotypes want to slide into.....
The 67W was my first wide angle dashcam after many others with a standard field of view. Still like it but not sure I would look for a wide angle one in the future. The 67W is a great camera but too many features on it that are unnecessary, I do not believe you need to pay for them all, just get the Mini 2 instead.
This was such a pessimistic and generally unhelpful video
Glad you liked it 👍
@@ThisIsJulianC I enjoyed it about as much as listening to Justin Trudeau talk. That is to say, not very much
I wish the dash cam was built into the engine area. I've had two expensive dash cams stolen.
Most of the time I forget to take it with me and some asshole smashes the window and steals the $300 plus dash cam.
Sorry to hear that. I like the built-in idea. Many current model cars and trucks have cameras built in (my Ford has 5 of them) but most manufacturers seem unwilling to incorporate a recordable dashcam system to work with those cameras. The exception is Tesla who have Sentry Mode, an excellent integrated dash cam.