Classic Game Room - MSX COMPUTER review
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Classic Game Room reviews Sony HB-F1 II MSX 2 computer in this MSX review featuring a MSX computer. MSX CZcams review has an MSX 2 review in this MSX2 review. CGR MSX HM-F1 II review showcases the beautiful Sony PlayStation 5 computer in the Hit Bit series. This MSX CZcams review has awesome up close MSX computer review gameplay footage. - Zábava
Bleeps, bloops, and hyper realistic gunfire, that's the legendary MSX all right.
Coleco Vision and MSX used the Texas Instruments TMS9918 graphics chip (there were several slightly different variants that output composite video or chroma/luma video at different refresh rates but they were all the same from a programming/capabilities standpoint) Sound was similar in capability but different chips, Coleco Visoion used a Texas Instruments SN76489A and MSX used a General Instruments AY-3-8910 (both were 3 channel square wave based sound chips). MSX 2 used a Yamaha V9938 graphics chip which was an enhanced TMS 9918 with additional features and graphics modes.
The Sega SG-1000 also used the TMS9918 family and the Mark 3 / Master System VDP was an enhanced version of this chip family (which like the V9938 was made by Yamaha) . In addition the Genesis VDP was a 16-bit extension of the Mark III / Master System graphics chip (it supported all of the Master System graphics modes which was used for Master system compatibility) which makes the Genesis distantly related to the Coleco Vision and MSX.
Oh, Lord Karnage, put that sweet MSX2 to good use and run some MSX2 games on it, please!
F R A M E M E I S T E R
Its a PlayStation 5 but was invented in the time before the original PlayStation....... I like it
In fact, the MSX is the first X in Microsofts X series!
I want to go that 80s era of Japan when people mad for MSX 😅.
You know what I like about this is that there's no question you're having fun playing it.
I love this channel! Love the reviews, and love seeing old school stuff I didn't know existed. One criticism: that didn't sound much like a turbo-volcano to me!
Funny how right before this video was uploaded, I watching some Konami MSX games
I've been waiting for a video of one of these!
You remind me (exactly) of the (actual) arcade itself (which is no longer in business) that I went to as a kid AND the people that were there. You (metaphorically) bring that arcade back into existence to append more time to it. Thanks man, I love your channel.
Well, arcades made a comeback since a few years ago
Nice! Started learning programming on a sinclar zx spectrum, moved on to a toshiba msx. Such a fun time. I was 15 at that time. Good old time😆
Carl Huyts :)
I definitely enjoy my MSX
My father used to have the Yamaha 200 and the 370, I miss the good old days.
Awesome review.
Love it. Subscribed.
Great video! I got hooked on HERO on this back in the 80s!
Still have it in my parents attic I think (an original Philips)
Wow the old sony logo i mss that from my childhood. The design is ahead of its days.
My favourite system (especially as all of my games were released on it back in the day :)).
So much variety in titles, plus titles from major publishers that only came out for it. So many franchises started on it before any other system as well.
my big brother had MSX system in the late 80' i don't remember what model it was but my earliest gaming memories are whit this system playing King's Valley and Maze of Galious which is still one of my favorite games ever
Good work.
There were also some Famicom ports to/from this system of eventually hugely popular games. The MSX version of the original Final Fantasy was unchanged in gameplay afaik (unlike any other system ports), but it had an expanded color palette and probably better sound, given the superior MSX hardware. And of course as others have mentioned, Metal Gear got its start on this machine, with the Famicom version expanding the early game but truncating the ending. Finally, MSX hosted the only canon version of Metal Gear 2, with NES Snake's Revenge having a separate production team.
If I had an unlimited budget, MSX would definitely be something I'd love to sink my teeth into. But I don't, so at least we have emulators.
I hope to see some Nemesis and Salamander for MSX reviews in the future! :)
Space Manbow should go too!
Yeah...i think it's official that's not going to happen now. RIP Classic game room. I imagine mark is surrounded by his beloved ancient tech crying wondering where did his life go and it's a depression he'll never return from 😢
MSX games can be played on the cheap as long as you have a floppy drive installed. There a a plethora of compilations of cartridge based games that can be written to a 3.5 floppy.
This is one of those times when it's an advantage to be in Europe. The MSX was very popular in a few European countries, so importing one via eBay, etc can be super cheap if you're patient.
I'm wodering if you can plug in a Sega Genesis/Mega Drive controller in the MSX? From what I saw the controller ports on both systems are the same. Which will make sense since you can plug a Genesis controller into Atari 2600.
Now this is PC gaming I can get behind.
Sweet photoshoot, man.
Actually, while this isn't bad, I think Sony's HitBit F1XD is probably the most gorgeous computer. Although the red HB-101 isn't bad either.
What was the difference between the MSX and MSX II? Anything hardware related or merely a dork with some paint to put a II on the case?
I didn't play a lot of cartridge based MSX games as I kid, but some tape based games I highly recommend are Manic Miner, Jet Set Willy, Hunchback, Sorcery and River Raid. None of these were exclusive to the MSX but IMO they're the best versions as a lot of the bugs were ironed out and the music was a giant leap forward when compared to the Spectrum, for example.
Only European-model MSX computers will output SCART. I got a Panasonic MSX2+ from Japan, and it outputs regular-ass composite video! So the cable I needed for it was like, $2. ;)
Man...I thought Mark was back. Talking about the PlayStation Pro and PS5. This is where Metal Gear started and was ripped apart for the Nes. We wouldn't get the real version of the first Metal Gear in its entirety and Metal Gear 2 in its real form until the mid 2000's. I always wanted to mess with one of these especially for Metal Gear way back when.
The Casio game title translates to Exoid-Z *Area 5* ... I'm not sure if that "29" on the right of the label is part of the title.
My first gaming experience started with MSX and Atari.
Playing these games on the Wii through BlueMSX with an X-Arcade 🎸 🎶
Dutch Star Wars shirt?! Gimme that Mark! ; -;
You need to do typing tests on this old keyboards
Good video ;)
Msx always tumbs up! Very underrated system!
That is one sexy looking console
i miss the old intro. Bring it back.
A TURBO VOLCANO. Gave me Powerthirst vibes
Area 5 has a Star Force vibe to it.
Are all the game cartridges the same and will they play on any MSX
Yes but on a rare occasion you might run into a compatibility issue. I only ever experienced this once though with a tape based game called Jet Set Willy II. It ran fine on a Sanyo MSX I had laying around but not on my preferred system which was a Toshiba HX-10. It would crash and reset the system at a certain point in the game.
That's the fastest final attack I've seen.
Heyzoos
Bouncy Video
Its mad to see a computer produced by sony and microsoft these days.
I still do not know why the MSX computer was not popular in America it's pretty amazing especially for the time and there is a lot of great games on there mind-boggling definitely I do not own one but I want one in fact you could say I need one LOL
How does one escape from the R-zone?
Birthplace of Parodius too.
Didn't Casio make cassette tapes too?
I want one bad
CGR WHERE WERE YOU YESTERDAY
Why did Mark move from the cool warehouse arcade to this? And wasn't he ending CCR? I can't keep up.
msx2: for best xperience play it on your crt tv
so this was sony's real entrance into consoles? this is how sega started
You should get some true MSX2 games for your MSX2 computer! So far you're only playing MSX1 games on it, which is like buying a stick shift Ferrari and never shifting past the 1st gear. :)
While 99% of peoples will probably think that the playstation was sony's first succesfull console,but it was actualy the cartride based msx computer from sony (trough under license) in the 80's wich can be considered as sony's first attempt to hit the videogame market.
There was 2 msx versions in Saudi Arabia, one could play famicom games and the other played mega drive games i think those are the one to get, very expensive tho.
There is an ebay listing for the one with the Sega mega drive listed for $5000.
How I had seen how comparatively pricey MSX games were in my days of collecting retro games for the Nintendo, Sega and Sony consoles. As I recall even something as ubiquitous as Dig Dug could still command a price on the MSX.
Forgot to say ALESTE and Puyo-Puyo were born in MSX. And Metal Gear.
Lord Karnage will freak out when he hears Musha intro song in MSX ALESTE.
msxpensive
That MSX need salamander and you are ready to blow
What ever happened to Mohammad? Is Ahmed his brother?
Play metal gear 2: solid snake!
I only have two games on my MSX2....Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.
are you stockpiling for the eminent *ai* takeover.... what's your angle 🤔
Ren sha turbo!
There's dude making rom hacks that fixes the screen scrolling
It's got like a master system D pad going on almost
is it more powerful than commodore 64?
No.
Toonses the msx2+ is but doesn't have no where near the games library.
It is, It was very popular around the world except for the United states.
These videos might answer your question :)
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More like a Japanese ZX Spectrum.
Hey a Tele Games 2600.
Ah, Scart. Though... I suspect the Japanese devices actually output something else. (JIS-21 was it?) point is, same connector, different pinout.
That might not be a big deal in the US, but in Europe, where SCART is ubiquitous, it could mean destroying your TV. (in theory. In practice probably just the SCART port itself.)
ugh. I miss having a SCART capable TV. I had one in the UK, but shipping a 30 kg CRT television halfway across the world is just too impractical.
The worst part is that TV probably ended up on the dump, because nobody wants it.
It's great for collectors of gaming systems, but those are few and far between.
Now, Australia is a bit tricky. We got a LOT of televisions that only have composite connectors, but we also used to get a lot of stuff advertised as having a 'EURO' connector.
What IS a EURO connector?
Why, SCART of course...
I wish I could find a SCART capable TV, but on the other hand, I've seen a SCART to VGA converter go for about $50.
And while that still sounds like a problem because most monitors can't handle 15 khz signals, it was also a scan doubler.
Once you have a VGA signal that at least meets the 30 khz signal spec, your options open up considerably.
A large number of monitors still support VGA as an input, and VGA to HDMI converters are relatively easy to get (and cheap)
Recording video from VGA is a different matter. The only device I've found that can do that is the really expensive x-capture1, which is the video capture device from the same company that makes the frame-meister.
In theory it can capture 15 khz, so you only need Scart to VGA conversion without scan doubling, but in practice getting 15 khz capture working is difficult, and requires using older drivers...
Still, if playing games is all you want, nothing beats having a late 90's European CRT television for practicality.
If you had say, a 1998 UK Panasonic model, like I did, then you have a TV that supports:
- Composite video
- RF Video (I bought a mega drive recently and that was all it came with. Go figure)
- Composite over SCART (for devices that do that, or for plugging in more composite devices using an adapter, which is what most European Nintendo systems came with. I still have such a converter from my Wii)
- RGB over SCART (the holy grail for older consoles)
- standard PAL support
- PAL 60 support (for newer consoles that support PAL at 60 fps)
- NTSC support.
In other words, it supports pretty much anything you can throw at it aside from HD stuff like Component or HDMI, or computer standards like VGA, DVI etc.
Wow I miss having that television to hand...
But you just can't ship a 21 inch CRT television 17000 km...
It's expensive, and it'd probably break along the way.
Pardon my question, but why don't you simply buy a scart adapter ?
Why can't Choppas and UFOs get along? The answer is Space Jockey, and you know it Mark! As per your review years ago Mark: czcams.com/video/Lw4xsT-gHuI/video.html
Venom Snake approves.
That's weird. My PS5 looks completely different. Must be a region thing.
6:45 WHO CARES HOW MUCH IT COSTS, YOU GET TO CARRY BOOTY!!!
You teach an MSX2 but only sample MSX1 games. It's the only weird thing to highlight.
If you want to see what an MSX is, click on the icon on my left to take a look at my channel where the MSX system is displayed in all its splendor.
Invade the space and carry away booty. What game was that?
MSX I HAVE 1985
I'm from 2021.
I have some news about the PS5...
best game its zinc
Do a sonic mania video
Ur-PlayStation.
Still better than the cancerous EA Star Wars Keyboard
You still need to play an actual MSX 2 game.
Before PlayStation :
😂 he said PS5
play station 5?
boye....better check what 2020 has to offer
looks onm par with an atari 800xl but more overpriced
I don't think that an 800XL could run a game like Golvelius czcams.com/video/7XanMvNxoVs/video.html
The MSX2 graphics chip is very similar to the Sega Master System VDP, both were designed by Yamaha as extensions of the TMS9818 display processor and are very similar in capability.
MSX! MSX! Better than sex! MSX!
Sony PS0
The computer for rich kids lol
The MSX was a great system, especially the MSX2 which was the most populair of them. I had a couple of them in the past and enjoyed them a lot. Super Cobra was a great game and Konami made a bunch of superbe games for the MSX system. One point of criticism on your video though. You only showed MSX1 games and not MSX2 games. If you had done that you could have shown the capabilities of the MSX2.
God i love this Sega fanboy, every time seeing this show just want to make love with my Mega Drive hehe
That is one pretty looking console. But, Jesus, Ahmed must just be drowning in games and consoles for what he has donated to the show.
it's a hit bit
you got an MSX2 and never once mentioned Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2?
what about Snatcher, Castlevania or Twin bee ?