Genie Plus is GONE -- Full Guide to Lightning Lane Multi Pass in Disney World
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Disney World just THREW OUT Genie+ and replaced it with the new Lightning Lane Multi Pass. I'm taking you through ALL the details so that you can be ready to skip the lines during your trip! This is the FULL GUIDE to Lightning Lane Multi Pass and Single Pass!
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I’m REALLY gonna need Fry Bucket to try the all the rides in Disney world challenge with the new system. I was planning my whole trip around the information provided in her previous attempts!!
yes please!!
Yes!!
Am I the only one who immediately thought of "LeeLoo Dallas Multi-Pass" from The Fifth Element?!
Definitely not! 😅
You need to watch Provost Park Pass video about this. He replays the scene over and over to the point of annoying.
I think 3 other people did too lol
I guess the genie is going back in the lamp for 10,000 years
We are going to Disney World in the fall and I was just talking to my uncle last night about this and I actually said, well I will figure it out bc the channel i like to watch, all ears, i am sure they will make a video about it and I will figure it all out! 🤣 and ofc this morning you release a video! that’s crazy!
My dad and I are going November, the last time he went was 2003 at the latest. He said “I wonder if the people still have a book, like the one we used when you were little” and I said “dad I watch Disney planning channels for fun, I AM the book”
@@purpleshopper3232- Birnbaum still puts out a travel guide for WDW and even though I’m just like you, I bought the book FOR THE COUPONS!! I’m going to be at Disney from Dec thru to January, so I’m actually getting the 2025 guide as well - so we have more coupons to use in January!
I'm really not a fan of trying to map out which rides I want to ride 2 weeks ahead of time. Its better than trying to wake up at 7am but both systems are too much planning for my blood.
Waking up isn't the issue if you're already rope dropping. The big issue is that if you're close enough to the front when you tap and fingerprint into the park, you also had to book LL and VQ at that exact moment. Overall this new system is just limiting the amount of LL at Magic and Hollywood, which will make all lines faster for everyone.
@@athenagreen5390 I don’t think it’s going to limit the number of lightning lanes. There should still be roughly the same number for each attraction per day, they just won’t ever be available for the most popular attraction in each park
@@athenagreen5390 I don't rope drop 🤷♂
Exactly why I prefer universal express pass, more expensive, but zero planning involved 😂
I tend to agree, I actually don't think it's very beneficial to plan your park days out a week ahead of time but it seems many others think differently. It feels like this system is a carrot to get people to buy Genie+/LL and gtd them at least 3 rides. I tend to think people were buying Genie + and not really knowing how to maximize it. At least now people can plan ahead an gtd 3 rides. Gone are the days of stacking LL's for tier 1 rides, that will not be possible here.
This is so educational! Thank you!!
Canadians can book in Advance. The Policy was changed but for international guest will have to wait until in United States.
How did you find out Canadians can now book in advance? I’m from Canada and we have a trip booked in January
@@Sara-qe4jl I think DFB Guide said it , also my travel agent knew it and I'm from Canada as well :)
Yeah so pretty similar to the old Fast Pass system. Including the tiered system.
Except old fast pass system was free for 3 rides for everyone. 😢
And Animal Kingdom was tiered, but not Magic Kingdom was not.
That is such a ton of information and you explained it fantastically well. Thank you so much for taking your time and helping us with this!
Thank you for the information! The graphics really helped. Your breakdown of the changes made it easy to understand and process. I’m interested to see how it works, once live, later this month.
So helpful, thank you!
Thank you so much for this! I can’t wait for the next videos.
Quincy!!! you spoke the truth.. this was the best explanation i've seen yet and even made clear a couple points i wasn't aware of. Thanks!!
This is awesome. I can understand the complaints, but I’m also excited to see how this shakes out. Can’t wait to try this out on my next visit. Looking forward to the videos that’ll come out of this!
Will virtual queues still exist?? Thanks in advance!
Yes there will still be virtual queues.
Canadians will be able to pre-book. Disney released this info 2 days after the announcement. Good thing, because the borders would have been filled with Disney travelers going to the US at 7am , 7 days before their trip.
So this is about what I thought I was looking at but the examples were helpful in making sense of it. That said what availability will look like day of and even three days out vs that 7 is a rather big question mark then of course there's the all important price question. Thanks for keeping us posted. Glad I have a few months to sort it out before any trip of mine is in play. I kind feel bad for anyone going during the initial rollout.
You are awesome Quincy! Thanks for the edutainment!
This video was SO great and super helpful/informative! Thank you Quincy!
Indeed the only video I need is from you Quincy Thank you for sharing how Genie+ is now Light Lane Multi Pass and its alot different
I just booked my trip for early next year and I’m really excited for this change. As a planner I’m so happy to be able to make some reservations in advance and can plan out the day a little better. Hopefully it could help out with the zigzagging that you all do when trying to maximize. We shall see. Looking forward to all the new content you’ll be putting out.
Just remember that when your 7 day window opens that many of the spots will already be used up by the people coming 1 or 2 days ahead of you because they will be there just a bit earlier. You could be trying to get spots that have been closed before you even open the app.
@@jeffaltier5582 Which means you can also book for end of your trip as well
Excited to see you and the team try it out in-person! It definitely seems like a change I’ll have to get used to, but nonetheless I’m excited for the change 👍
Makes getting the new system on the day of obsolete. Most of the lightning lanes will already be gone before you buy it on the same day. So get it ahead like dinner reservations or you'll lose out.
yup. this is a huge slap in the face to AP holders
Good chance when your 7 day booking window is here rides will be sold out by people who ordered days before you get a chance.
You'll just have to wait in line, right?
@@MrMaxRebosNot necessarily… I think if they hadn’t put a limit of 1 for top tier rides, then those could have gotten sold out in advance of when most customers will have availability to purchase. But there is no reason to think that the sell out time for those attractions won’t occur til the day of around the same time as they normally do.
@marshmallow1jennie true but to pay all this money to stand in line defeats the whole purchase of paying to not standing line. Don't you think so
Thank you👍🏽
I’m so excited about this!
Excellent video,Quincy. I am so happy to see these changes. I may actually buy Lightening Lane multi pass on our next trip. I hated Genie plus so much that I refused to use it. This is like the old fast pass which I thought worked great.
Great video as always! I’d be awesome to see a three-way comparison in an upcoming video once the new system starts. One person books 7 days out, another 3 days out, and another day of. Seeing which option gets you the most availability and the impact each has on how much you can do in a day would be great info
We're planning on this!
Hi again Quincy ❤❤❤❤
Thanks for the breakdown 😅
I I understand everything now still might need an expert help me out sometimes
This really caters towards resort guests, as resort guests get to start reserving spots a full 7 days in advance, while non-resort guests can start only 3 days in advance.
I agree. I can see people feeling like they are being forced to pony up the money to stay on property, if they have any chance of riding any of the more popular rides.
How do you think AP holders feel? At least non-resort guests on date based tickets can book their whole trip in advance. APs have to go day by day. I feel really bad for locals who want to join family / friends from out of town on their Disney trips since there's little chance they'd be able to get coordinated LLs.
@@LaLunaLadythat’s why the only Disney park I will visit in my next trips is Magic Kingdom. Universal nowadays is so much better.
Resort guests coming from within the US
It depends on the situation of course but staying off site really isn't worth the hassle. You save money but that's it but the hassle and hoops you have to jump through are just not worth it IMO.
I like that you can hold up to three but for me it stinks because we stay off property with family. It’s the only way we can afford to go. Thankfully, our trip is next week so we’ll be able to watch and study LLs before our next trip.
Good job
My trip is 7/13-7/22-I just miss this! Bummer 😢
Me too!!😢
You'll honestly have a better time with the current system. More LL opportunities and no tiers. When my friend and I went earlier this year, we never waited more than an hour. We got (almost) everything done that we wanted to do and even got several rerides on our favorites (with careful planning of rope-drops and extended evening hours, of course).
Don't be upset. I think it is easier now...and there are lower crowds right now, too.
This is happening 3 days before our trip, and now I have to go back to Disney University, AKA CZcams videos, to try and learn this new system now. 😢
Quincy is so pretty!!!! And smart. And talented. And dedicated/hard-working. My love!!!!
Are virtual queues still going to exist? Thanks so much for figuring this all out and sharing- have to admit im glad my next trip is not until next year now!
Would be nice if they took into consideration the international visitors... because until you land on US soil you can not book a thing. I know because I emailed them to ask about it as I have a trip coming up in a few months. :(
Use a VPN on your phone to say you're in the states, then book. That's my plan anyway
Using a VPN doesn’t work because it’s an app. That’s what Disney have said.
@@charlottep3253 noooooo
A VPN won't work, the Disney world app is locked down. Even the VPN customer service I used said they have no work around at the moment 😢
I'm anxious to hear any updates on international bookings. It's so frustrating that guests staying off-site will book before me. (I guess I could take a day trip to the States and pay the fees on my phone for data but....)
I've just checked my itinerary and I'm very glad I wasn't planning to get Genie+ in the first few days of the trip. Hopefully they 'fix' this soon though
I'm going to WDW for an 8 day trip starting July 24th! So now I need to book my entire vacation plans the morning I'm arriving on vacation. How stressful and annoying. Thank you for all the info!
Thank you for the uodate Quincy. If possible, when you get all the info, can you do a video for just passholders. It sure would help. We will be in the MK on July 29th of this year.
Thank you
Chris
Rudest change ever for international guests. How on earth are we going to plan our 4000 dollar trip, make it worthwhile, when all the rides will be sold out by the time we can book. WHICH IS ON THE DAY OF ARRIVAL. So disappointed in this new system
Hopefully they make adjustments to this issue. Not sure why this restriction is in place.
Agree. America first, apparently 😢 Spent about 10K on our upcoming trip in August this year and now feeling like a less valued customer for sure.
I found that so interesting, considering the fact that most International guest are more likely to stay up to 14 days.
can't you just get a VPN?
@brandond8197 Apparently a VPN doesn't work with the app
This is why AllEars is so amazing! An easy and short breakdown! My question is - if tickets and hotel were bought separately and not as part of a package (but they are now linked), will the 7 day window still apply?
Yes! Your hotel stay will apply as long as you have valid admission!
Hi Quincy, thank you for the video. So does this mean the virtual queue's will now disappear?
Thanks for the helpful video, Quincy! Will there be a tip board type feature in the new system? I might be in the minority that actually liked that feature in genie and found it helpful.
Wondering if they will still have the Virtual Queue options for TRON, Tiana and Guardians. Our trip is right after Labor Day, so hopefully they'll have sorted out any bugs by then.
Yes, those will all still have VQ's.
As always you guys are amazing! Thank you for the crash course. I have a question, we’re going to Orlando in August, half of my party is international and I’m in the US. Can I buy the LLs for the international part of my group when I buy mine?
Very Informative Quincy! Thank you so much. I know you mentikned this but for passholders staying at a Disney Hotel, can we still book 7 days in advance? Are Disney Good Neighbor Hotels included? I’m looking forward to you guys doing a video showcasing each option (staying and not staying at Disney). This will help us see what you mentioned about availability for the rides
I think people will on average ride less rides this way. Yes you are going to ride three rides, but they will most likely each have a required hour window, so 9-10,10-11,11-12, so possible to only get one or two rides after this.
I think you'll be able to ride a plenty of standard tier rides. We'll have to wait until roll out to find out if you can ride multiple top tier rides in the same day
One edit for you to add - Canadian travellers will also be able to book in advance of landing in the US.
Great job Quincy !! So I guess i have to throw out my Tee Shirt that says "I Understand Genie Plus".... So, If I am arriving on a random Sunday for 7 nights, but I only bought park tickets for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, can I book my first LL 7 days before Sunday or Monday? And can I book for all days at that time ?
I just got the hang of genie plus (in preparation for a trip in 2025 😂) so at least I have time to get this down pat before then! Also Quincy, you’re so pretty
So for hotel guests purchasing the 7 days in advance - will we be able to cherry pick which park days we purchase for, or do you have to purchase for the entire duration of your trip?
I have had such great luck with the current system and being able to stack later in the day. This new system makes me worry that in order to ride the same number of rides, we will have to spend an entire day in a park versus our current method of rope dropping, heading back to the hotel for lunch and a nap/pool time, and going back at night for all our stacked attractions 😟
Going to have to watch your videos when it goes live and make a new strategy before our next trip!
Very helpful video thanks. I don’t understand why Disney doesn’t just have a top tier fast pass that costs more but you can book three rides in advance and at an increased time in advance?
Thank you so much for the video! I've read a lot about the new system, but this straightforward, clear explanation is very helpful.
There is one question I can't seem to find an answer for, though- do you know if advanced reservations can be made "out of order" for the days of your trip? For example: If you have a hotel reservation and are booking 7 days in advance for a trip scheduled from Monday through Friday, do you have to book everything for Monday first, then Tuesday, etc, or can you book Thursday first, then Tuesday, then Monday, etc?
From an example that I saw you will be shown a calendar & you pick your date - so you could probably book in any order.
If you book it for your upcoming trip, do you have to buy it for all days? How will that work?
I see attractions in the tier lists, but will character meet and greets still have Lightning Lanes? Would love a video about how to maximize the service in all the parks and how it works into rope drop strategy. Maybe a video about how to plan that perfect day 7 days in advance.
Disney hasn’t said officially one way or another. We just know that character meet and greet parades were not included in the list released by Disney.
Its literally changing in the middle of our trip... I'm a bit nervous how this is going to effect affect our trip.
I had a plan to early entry rope drop animal kingdom to ride flight passage for free a couple of times and also park hop over to Epcot that same day and try to ride guardians a couple of times also because of the extended hours thatday. Hoping to reserve guardians and still start my day at Animal Kingdom. Can’t wait for your next video. Thanks.
I love this! I always geek out on the details. Thanks for breaking it down Quincy! I hope many people watch this and get familiar with the way the system works! So excited to utilize it for my Feb. 2025 visit! Whoohoo!
Great crash course, answered most of my questions. One I still have i, I am doing a split stay at DVC at the end of August will I be able to get Multi and Single pass for the entire trip 7 days before the first stay or will it be split into 2 - 7 day periods one for the first and the other for the second stay? The stay are continuous.
Can you test if you can have multiple bookings for Star Tours at once?
So us west coast folks coming to Disney World have to be up at 4:00 AM days before our trip to have any chance at getting early lightning lane return times. Wonderful 😮
Oh, thought that 7 am was to check to see if someone canceled and for last chance ones; well, that would have been cool.
Thank you for this video. The international rule worried me but luckily Canada doesn't fall into that
I would love to know your opinion(s) on strategizing which rides to book/how to at least start the day (first couple hours at each park) with the new system. Obviously it could change after you start using it, but I would love a video like this with your ideas of strategies for those of use who don’t have much time to learn the new system before our trip.
If I buy multi pass on the day I plan to use it (spot the international guest 😢) then do the tiers apply or could I pick 3 top tier slots if available (spot the international dreamer!).
Thanks for this it’s very helpful and informative. I do have a question if it’s booked ahead of time and plans change are you able to cancel the purchase of lightning lane ? Or once purchased for that date is it non refundable
It's nonrefundable, but Genie+ was also nonrefundable and you could explain your situation to guest relations and they would sometimes refund on a case by case basis.
I understand now 🤔
Can international guests purchase in advance if working with a U.S. based travel agent? Could be a good work around.
You will have to give your US TA your password to be able to log into the app on your behalf. I would recommend making a spreadsheet for your TA with your ‘first choices’ for them to boom on your behalf. Problem is…not everyone uses a US TA. In Australia, most people either book directly themselves, or they use local Australian TAs.
As an Incredi-Pass Holder AND staying at a Disney Resort Hotel in November, can we still make reservations 7 days in advance? We have already made our Park Reservations for each day. Since we can also park hop as an AP, will Lightening Lane Multi-Pass recognize that we can jump to another park after the first lightening lane is used?
Terrified at how much time they will give you to complete all transactions before timing out, especially on first day. I know what two of my multi pass choices will be and thr two single passes I want but worried about doing it all in one shot when my reservation is July 31 so I’d be reserving on July 24, the first day of the new system. I’m 76 and don’t have very fast fingers. It sounds like you wouldn’t be alble to book the multi pass, check out and then go back and do single pass on separate transactions or do you disagree. Thanks Quincy for calming me down on this.
Yeah, I’m also wondering about how it will work to pick your times and then check out. I’m assuming you’ll pick your times and they’ll be held for 5-10 minutes while you finish the transaction, but it would really suck to be mid-transaction and to get an error because your time is no longer available.
Do you need to buy it for everyday?
Hey Quincy! I am going to Disney in May and am doing a split stay but I have 5 park day date based tickets. Will I be able to book for my whole trip 7 days out from my first day even though it’s a split stay?
Another question. Since the change is in the middle of our trip, we have to wait until 7:00 on 7/24 to get LL for that day and the rest of our trip? So much for any WDW resort benefit 😢
With Genie+ ypu were able to buy a multi park pass. Will tge new system do the same or will you have to buy for each parknyou go to?
Ok, so on the 7 day window, can I book 3 attractions per park/per day for my week (example: 3 in DHS for Saturday, 3 in DAK for Sunday, 3 in Epcot for Monday, etc,) or do I only get to pick 1 day to book out of the week? I feel like you answered it, but I want to clarify. Thanks!
Will there still be a non-paid virtual queue for a single pass?
Seems like a double edge sword because what if something happens and you can’t get that fast pass you booked?
Is this also coming to Disneyland in California?
*NEWSFLASH* 98% of those using Genie+ were already up anyway getting ready to travel from their hotel and rope drop between 7-9am. All this does is make it more uneven with people spread out across multiple days to make their first selections.
I'm going to Disney world in September but live in England UK, I don't drive cause I've got low vision eye sight (partially sighted/blind), I was hoping to buy genie plus (now becoming lightning lane) only if park is busy, I am not an early bird so hoping to buy this on same day but later in day (maybe 10-11am say), will this work in my favor or will I miss out and be no lightning lanes available. From Abi
The old FP+ system would let you book all your FP at one time at the start of a split stay of 2 resorts. Will the new Lightning Lane system do the same?
My Disney visit is before July 23rd, so you’re saying I still have to use the old Genie +😑
What if we’re split staying between 2 hotels? Do we need to book 7 days before each hotel reservation?
Need to know this answer.
Have you heard if they will still be doing the virtual queue for Guardians and Tron?
This change is not expected to affect Virtual Queue
For a couple traveling mid week in early September, do you think this is needed since crowd calendars predict lighter crowds this time of year?
Sorry I’m still confused when it comes to booking this early. And I am Not doing park hoper can I book 3 lightning lanes per park like 3 on this day and 3 for the next day or ………?
I know you said that you have to have everyone in your party linked in order to book together. Is there a limit on how many people you can have linked?
Do I need a multi pass for a special event like “not so Scary Halloween?@
How is this going to impact AllEars challenges?! Less stacking seems possible
Should you book by the day/park you care about the most first? For instance, if I want Tiana’s and my
magic kingdom day is the third day of my trip should I start with that?
So, I would now need to know days in advance exactly which parks and what time I want to arrive, have fewer rides to choose from, no characters, no shows, and can't stack multiple rides... How is this better? Please explain how needing to preplan my entire trip, having fewer options, and not being able to stack 4-5+ rides is better?
This is a massive change and likely has to be implemented in stages.
All these people are complaining and putting Disney down before the program has even started. After Disney addresses the issues and makes adjustments, i wonder how many of these people will apologize or even acknowledge the changes.
Please help us understand how this will work with Mickey’s not so Scary. I have no idea now if I should get it or not. We will be there for the second week of the party in august. I was going to wait to see your party reviews and see how the crowds are but now I feel pressure to decide way in advance. We plan on going to MK for the day plus the party. Looking forward to more videos!!!
Genie+ was not available during the holiday parties so if it stays the same, it's really just if you want to use it during the day!
We will be staying one night at a Disney resort to take advantage of the park perks, and this rolls out the week before we stay, which we stay on July 31, checkout August 1st. Will we still be able to book 7 days in advance if we are in Magic Kingdom on the day we checkout, August 1st? We were going to stay at the resort to take advantage of the Genie Plus option, but that now will be changing right before our trip. Thank you for your videos and for helping.
You should be able to book for both check in day and check out day 7 days before check in day.
Hey Quincy, what about people whose arrival day is before mine? Won’t that mean they will already have all the good rides booked before I can even try?
My thoughts exactly
Hi, will we be allowed to ride a ride more than once under the new system, or are we still limited to ride a ride once?
If we start at AK and are park hopping somewhere else can we select only 1 LL say for Navi or Exp Everest and then once we ride that ride start selecting LLs for our second park? Or do we need to select 3 for the first park before selecting any for the second park?
So I have Disney trip at hotel with 4 park hoper tickets with my hotel reservations and I’ll have two single day ticket how will this work will I be able to book my single day tickets when I book my other I’ll still be a Disney hotel
Would love for you to test whether booking a super early time slot for something and then just missong it will allow you to book your new 3rd LL from wherever you are ( eg in bed) We need to figure out a way to still stack in the evening for those of us who want to avoid rope dropping at all cost. Genie + was like a game i took great pride in winning at, so trying to figure put how to win at multipass. Also, would love for you to test if missing a LL will allow you to book the next at another park. Also, please test ho easy it will be to modify your 3 pre selected and then newly scheduled LLs to other parks/rides.
I also assume that they will release more LLs on day of like they do now after seeing if the ride is working well that day. Assume they will likely add charcter meet and greets day of as well once they finalize staffing/ call outs for the day.
Just renewed our Annual Pass...then Disney pulled the DAS from us AFTER we renewed! The goal...just get everyone to pay more. Last year we will go to Disney and we will sue WDW at the end of the year for the total LL charges. We are Universal Premier Members...certified our IBCCES account...DONE. Thanks Universal!!! Next year is going to be EPIC ;)