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JUST got done doing this on my 2013 B8.5 S4... like 10 minutes ago lol. Many many thanks for making this video. The only thing I did differently after reading through the audi forums, was to fill it cold until it started to leak out and put the fill plug back on, finger tight. Then, instead of turning the car on and filling once it reached temperature, I turned the car on, shifted it into each gear to load the new filters, then shut it off quickly. Next I filled it again until it was leaking and then took the fill tube out completely and put the fill plug back in, finger tight. Then I turn the car back on for the final time, wait until it reached temp, and then opened the fill plug and let the excess pour out. Once it stopped leaking it should be at the right level, so I put the plug back in and torqued it down.
Someone asked me $500 for labor only to change the transmission fluid and another $150 for an engine oil change. After this great video I am going to do it by myself. thanks
Thanks Paul for your awesome line-up of parts, great prices & taking the time for making this & all your videos..... I would like to offer up some advice when removing the trans pan(also applies to oil pans), always leave 1 bolt loosely screwed in on the opposite side of where you want the residual DSG fluid to drain towards, that way once most of the fluid has drained, you can then hold the pan with 1 hand while you unscrew the last bolt with the other hand or if the pan is stuck to the trans & you need to do a little prying, you can pry the pan loose without it falling to the ground, possibly causing damage to the pan & once the pan is loose, now hold the pan with 1 hand while you unscrew the last bolt with the other hand. Thanks again for everything you do for the community.
The DL501 (0B5) has two separate oil systems and I'm changing both when I have to do the DSG oil change: 1. ATF oil aystem: The first oil system accommodates the dual clutch, the mechatronic system and the oil supply (around 7 liters - this is what you changed). This ATF provides rapid response of the shift and clutch control mechanisms even at low temperatures, and serves to lubricate and cool the dual clutch. 2. Gear oil system The second oil system incorporates the manual gearbox, the transfer case (centre differential) and the front axle drive (4.35 liters of a different oil type). Lubrication is by means of a hypoid gear oil with a special oil additive for the centre differential. By separating these oil chambers, it has been possible to design the individual component parts of the gearbox optimally. Thus, it was not necessary to make any compromises due to conflicting demands on the lubricant.
Thanks again DAP for the DYI...I followed it to a T and ended up with about only 6 bottles going back in...maybe not as much of mine came out when I drained. Anyway...maybe it's placebo but I could swear the car feels like it's shifting faster and more crisply now.
To anyone who will be attempting this. The bolts he removed are to be replaced. All of them (trans pan and brace) are mandatory replacement parts. There is a tightening sequence and specific torque to all the bolts he removed. The way he filled it is wrong. Don’t ever run your vehicle without fluid in the transmission. Fill the transmission with fluid before you start the car. When the trans temperature gets to 35 Celsius open the fill plug while it is running. Let fluid run out until you get a steady drip and reinstall the plug. You must do all this before the temp gets to 45 c or the transmission will have less oil then required.
Surely though before you refit the fill plug after filling you must wait for the steady stream of oil to stop otherwise the transmission would be overfilled ?
Would have never challenged my DSG service without this video. VERY detailed and gave me the confidence to do it myself. I spent about $200 + $69 for the OBD11 tool...much cheaper than Audi quoted me or even a Euro shop. Thanks Dap. Only thing I’d mention is keep mind of where you place the plastic hose. Mine barely touched the exhaust and started to smoke when I was awaiting for the fluid to heat to 40C.
Love your videos! Very professional. Your videos are one of the reasons I was confident to buy a B8 S4. I would love to see a video on the sport diff fluid change!
Thank you your effort to make this video, helping te DIY guys. Reading the comments I decided to share a material found on the web. Sorry for the long text. Consist of three parts: draining, filling and checking-topping up ATF level. Other notes: A) concerning the fittment of the internal filter. I do not recommend to clean the O ring width alcohol in order to make it tight enough fitment. Professionals using an O ring on the "+" positioner to make tight fitment. B) I do not believe the "30-50 degree the right level" explanation. DO a simple test: fill in a glass bottle width scaling on the side width ATF. Measure the level at 30 degree celsius. Note the level. Heat up to 50 degree celsius. Note the level. Compute the difference between the levels. My first guess is that the result is not measureable, ie. less than 1mm. The correct reason behind this explanation could be simple: over 50 degree celsius the ATF is burning the (gloved) hand when the fill plug is fitted. Good reading and use it on your risk. Draining ATF 1. Engine not running. 2. Vehicle must be absolutely horizontal (drive it onto a four-pillar lifting platform or over an inspection pit). 3. Selector lever at position “P”. 4. Parking brake button must be pulled up to apply the electromechanical parking brake. 5. Remove rear noise insulation 6. Place used oil collection and extraction unit below gearbox.
WARNING Risk of eye injury, wear safety goggles.
7. Remove ATF drain plug -arrow- and allow ATF to drain off. 8. Renew seal for ATF drain plug. 9. Tighten ATF drain plug - 45nm. Note The exchangeable ATF filter must always be renewed if the ATF is changed
Filling gearbox with ATF Caution Risk of damage to gearbox = Use only the ATF supplied as a replacement part for dual clutch gearbox 0B5. = Select correct type = Other types of ATF or other oils cause malfunctions and/or failure of the gearbox. = The ATF filling unit must be clean and the ATF must not be mixed with other types of oil! = The engine must not be started if only a little or no ATF remains in gearbox after repair work or after excessive ATF leakage.
10. Fill reservoir of ATF filling unit 11. Secure reservoir for ATF filling unit as high as possible on vehicle.
12. Remove ATF inspection plug 13. Insert filler nozzle of ATF filling unit into ATF inspection hole. 14. Fill with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole. 15. Shift selector lever into position “P”. 16. Start engine and turn off after 20 seconds. 17. Continue filling with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole. 18. Start engine and allow to run at idling speed. 19. Continue filling with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole again. 20. Fit ATF inspection plug = 45nm. 21. Stop the engine. Check ATF level
Caution Risk of damage to gearbox = Use only the ATF supplied as a replacement part for dual clutch gearbox 0B5. = Select correct type = Other types of ATF or other oils cause malfunctions and/or failure of the gearbox. = The ATF filling unit must be clean and the ATF must not be mixed with other types of oil!
Note: = The ATF level will vary according to the ATF temperature. = If the ATF level is checked when the ATF temperature is too low, this will result in overfilling. = If the ATF level is checked when the ATF temperature is too high, this will result in underfilling. = Both overfilling and underfilling will impair the function of the gearbox. Test conditions = Gearbox must not be in emergency running (backup) mode. = Vehicle must be absolutely horizontal (drive it onto a four-pillar lifting platform or over an inspection pit). = Selector lever at position “P”. = Parking brake button must be pulled up to apply the electromechanical parking brake. = Extractor hose(s) of an exhaust gas extractor must be connected. Extractor switched on. = Air conditioner and heating system switched off. = Vehicle diagnostic tester is connected. = The ATF temperature should not be higher than 30°C at the beginning of the test (the temperature will rise during the test). Checking ATF level 22. Read off ATF temperature. Caution Risk of damage to gearbox = The engine must not be started if only a little or no ATF remains in gearbox after repair work or after excessive ATF leakage. = In this case the gearbox must be filled with ATF before proceeding further
23. Start engine with selector lever in position “P”. 24. With brake pedal still depressed, select all gear positions (“P”, “R”, “N”, “D”, “S”) one after the other at idling speed, maintaining each position for at least 10 seconds. 25. Shift selector lever into position “N”. 26. Shift selector lever into position “P”. 27. Allow engine to continue running at idling speed.
28. Place used oil collection and extraction unit -VAS 6622A- below gearbox.
WARNING Risk of eye injury, wear safety goggles.
29. When ATF reaches temperature of 30 ℃, unscrew ATF inspection plug. 30. The ATF level is correct if a small amount of fluid comes out at the ATF inspection plug when the ATF temperature is between 30 and 50 °C. If this is not the case, top up ATF
Note The ATF inspection plug must be screwed in again before the ATF reaches a temperature of 50 °C. 31. Tighten ATF inspection plug
Great how-to, thank you! Did my DSG service over the weekend. One thing I learned that you didn't mention: If you are using tubing to gravity feed in the new fluid, make sure to keep the tube as far away from the cats as possible. I tucked mine in between the bell housing and the hard lines. It took a while for the trans fluid to get up to temp and so the exhaust was fully up to temp and prone to melt my tubing if I routed any other way.
This videos is the easiest explanation on how to DIY on a modern day piece of art. In this day in age, learning more about your vehicle and DIY like this & less about the couch and how potatoes are grown there.. is priceless. Great video and advice 👍🏻 Newly subscriber
After watching a few of your videos I kind of want to visit my brother now down just outside of charlotte so I can have you guys service my audi XD. Very well done video's and seem like a great place to go for service.
I watched that some other channel the guy insert the air gun bottom of the oil bottle and He gave little pressure air and filled up much faster instead of prick to bottle👍
Very informative but given that most of us don't have a vehicle lift it would help to have some advice on how to do the refill procedure with just the usual ramps. Assume we need to do the whole thing on the ramp and then finally drive the car off and ramp so it's level, let excess spill then back on the ramp to fit plug and brace?
Correct me if i am wrong, but should you have started the vehicle and selected all the gears Before you carried out the final filling of the gearbox? Your method would have left the Transmission Fluid Level below the required level...??.
Great DYI, however when you install the new internal filter do not lube it up with oil. Instead clean it with alcohol this will help you hold the filter in place so that you can install the pan easier, otherwise the filter will droop and prevent you from installing the pan nice and flush. It’s almost impossible to get it installed by yourself.
Hi! I might have missed it, but I don’t think you mentioned when or how to check the level of the fluid once you have completed the change. What I mean by that is that it’s unclear from the video whether or not to leave the gearbox in Neutral, Park or Drive and if the check (the slow continuous dripping of fluid) should be preformed with the engine off or not. Some gearboxes need to be checked in the specific temperature interval, with the engine on and the gearbox in Parking. I was unsure if that applies to this model too. Thanks again for the informative video!
Good video. Cracked up when you dropped the pan. Should have left 1 or 2 bolts in loose. So they would catch pan when it came off body. Anyway... I noticed when the transmission was cold you only got about 4 L in yet when it got to 40 you got the rest of the bottles in? how much did it take total change and why do you get more in when the temperature gets to 40? Does some valve open or something. Remember you didnt flush or drop any cooler lines so i can only imagine you put back in what came out?
I really love your channel. You are the best my friend. The dealer changed my gearbox which was under warranty as my audi a5 v6 3.0T was running 60k miles and then I drove it for almost 25k miles in 4 years so I am not sure when should I change it .. is it by miles or age ?!
@@Deutscheautoparts so does the DQ250 dsg box have an internal filter also? Or just in the DL501? I have a cupra 290 with the dq250 so was curious to find out
Awesome vid,😎 it's on par with all the other DSG changes I seen for vids. I also noted a lot of the people try and change their diff fluid as well around that time while they are down there. Quick question, does it not need to be cycled while you are filling it? 🤔🤔 It seems you only cycled it AFTER tightening the plug from being filled at recommended oil temp....
Going to change mine today, thanks for the video. Would be interesting, if flushing the bigger part (7 litres) of the dsg is intended by audi at all? Everything I've ever read was that dsg-owners only change the fluid, they never do a flush of the dsg-part (ATF-system). Except for "Julian", from one of the older comments.
Page not found (404) on the link to " 7 Speed Audi DSG Service Kit (Basic)" found in description. Great vid though... you got me shopping for used S4's now :)
Great video thanks, lifesaver after Audi never did it at the correct mileage yet still marked the car as having a full service history. I only did the outer filter on this occasion because I have had to do so many other service items (again thanks to Audi not doing it) and I could only get around 5.5 litres in. Would this seem correct taking into account I didn't drop the pan or do the internal filter? Thanks again, love your videos!
Do you have to make some Basic adjustment with Vagcom or Obdeleven to purge the oil? Where I take my vehicle to change the s-tronic oil says it does something with the computer. That is why I do not dare to make this oil change to my vehicle. thanks for your help
Working as a VW mechanic and at first when I did a DSG-service I though that the fluid would smell really bad but it acually don't smell anything, the worst fluid that have a strong smell is on the haldex coupling
I have read so many different comments about what fluid is best to use and if adaptation of the dsg ckutches needs to be done after this service. Can you please comment? Thanks
What's to stop the fluid (the fluid added when the car gets up to temp and is running) from draining back out the fill hole in the time between turning the car off and installing the plug?
good video i have a question S4 and S5 do the same procedure ? i have 2009 s5 Quattro and how many transmission fluid do i need ? i look online say 9 liters and i call dealer say 11 liters i need , got me confused. thank you !!
Hey Deutsche Auto Parts I'm looking at a 2010 Audi s4 7 speed tip tonic with 83k mile, my question is should I stay away from this year of S4 because of the transmission is prone to breaking down so easy. What are your thoughts on this and thanks for you time and videos.
A rather important part has been missed out. You must cycle the gears whilst it is warming up before doing the second fill otherwise it will be underfilled.
Hope you will answer my question. First of all, thank you for great video, now I’m not afraid doing it by myself! My A6 C7 2.0 tdi 190 hp. 2016 also got the OB5 DL501 7-speed s-tronic gearbox. Isn’t it the exact same procedure like your showing? Thanks in advance.
@@reneandersen667 HI I have the same audi A6 as Rene anderson AND Audi change my gear box oil and they only put 3.5 l of oil . is that correct what they have done???
@ccharraf Hey. In the meantime, I've found out much more with the gearbox. The s-tronic 7 speed gearbox I have and probably you too is a DL382. I found a really good description on audiworld.com. It also says that when replacing the DSG oil, 3.5 L of liquid is used.
I had a question that I think you might be able to answer. I was wondering, on the 2015 VW Passat, how does the fuel door actuator work because mine doesn’t lock the door. I can hear it work, but it doesn’t lock because the part doesn’t turn. Is it something the actuator is supposed to do? Or is it some kind of plastic on the door that’s supposed to turn it as it closes it? Thanks in advanced.
I’m wondering how much error is allowed regarding the volume you put in. If adding back identical amount is easier in practice, I don’t want to spend so much time doing this.
I did not see the part where he run the trans in all gear positions before filling it up. Isnt this necessary on the DL501? What oil is needed for the other side of the transmission?
The oil that came out of the transmission looked like the gear oil you showed in the other bottle. Could they have made that mistake and used gear oil? Just a thought.
I agree, they must have made that error. Would be interesting if he noticed any hard gear changes, or what finally made him change the gear fluid on the s4.
Deutsche Auto Parts I had a question that I think you might be able to answer. I was wondering, on the 2015 VW Passat, how does the fuel door actuator work because mine doesn’t lock the door. I can hear it work, but it doesn’t lock because the part doesn’t turn. Is it something the actuator is supposed to do? Or is it some kind of plastic on the door that’s supposed to turn it as it closes it? Thanks in advanced.
We have 2013 Audi Q7 Supercharged 3.0 Liter with the 8 speed automatic transmission. Is there difference in the procedure to change our Q7? If so what is the difference?
As a few others have asked in the comments, do you need to shift through P, N , D , R at all during this? Perhaps while its coming up to temperature or when its up to temperature?
Any chance to know what type of oil is used on the center differential(The one that's attach to the transmission), I found an article that say to use GL4 instead of GL5 because it's known to eat away at brass transmission components such as gear synchros? But I cant find any more information about the type of oil to use on the center differential.
So i’m confused. why do you use 6.8 liters. looks like you have about 2 or more liters in the pan on the ground. when i did mine it only took 4.5 liters and it spilled out the fill plug super fast. ran it and tried to add more but it was still spilling out the drain plug. i didn’t change the internal filter but i couldn’t imagine that internal filter having 2 liters of fluid in it.
8:38 it feels like the internal filter is barely holding on...shouldn't it clip on nicely and be firm? Also you didnt mention how much to fill up prior to turning the car back on and waiting for 40 degree temperature before putting in the rest
Hi .. I have Audi 7 2013.. transmission working absolutely fine just I’m getting error Gear is overheating change driving style .. and fault code is P1765 hydraulic sensor 2 adaptation limit reached .. pls advise what could be the actual problem?? I
Imagine Audi putting a fill hose for the tranny on in the engine bay. My gosh, it makes my head hurt that this isn't standard on any/all vehicles. Interestingly, I have two Audis, a '12 S4, that's stage 2+ APR, it's a garage princess. The other is a '13 Q5. When I was having panoramic sun shade repaired/replaced they asked if I wanted them to service the trans. I said, why not, it had 60K miles on it, it was probably time. A month or so later, started having trans problems, even shifting into drive but it being in reverse really. Took it to my guy that is about an hour away, who is the only one I'll let touch my S4. He tore it down, tested the trans fluid and measured what came out. Said the trans was nearly 3 quarts low in fluid, with no leaks. I phoned the other shop and explained that they likely screwed me because the trans was blown. They said, "we'll need the car back to so we can see it for ourselves". 3.5K later in a new trans tells me they never did what was done in this video; i.e. they never went through the proper procedures to assure the trans was full of fluid. Live and learn.
Hi Paul Where is the oil coolant valve on 0b5 dl501 gearboxes iv heard they are external to the gearbox but can't find it on my b8 s4? Any advice would be appreciated thankyou
i have a question about my sifter cable on my b8.5 dsg it is broken and i cant sift into park. Is this a problem in most b8.5 and how would i go about fixing it? any links on buying the sifter cable or diy thoughts?
i have an audi s4 b8.5 with its mounted pulley and tunnig malone. my gearbox works normally when I drive normally on the street but when I want to accelerate fully it does not change gear and I have to throw the gear on the steering wheel to make a race. I want to know if it is normal or what happens to it. I was also told that It could be programming. 3 weeks ago I isolate the transmission maintenance complete with everything new. I fly I say the car handles super well but that fault only has it if you step on the acceleration pedal all of a sudden
It is strange that it is first time I heard about Audi uses DSG on Audi Sport Series product like this B8.5 S4, Chinese ver B8.5 S4 won't offer optional gearbox which is only AT gearbox because of that DSG China scandal. VW deal with different solutioin of Chinese people in different ways, Taiwan offers recall while Continent only offer lengthen quality guaranteeing. B9 and B9.5 S4 has AT gearbox for Chinese customers, no DSG. DSG (DCT) used to screw up the Chinese automobile market in 2012, especially the VW model of have DQ200 7 speed and DQ250 6 speed . The DSG malfunction model include Magotan, Golf, CC, Skoda, Satigar and Scirocco. Mostly, these phenomenon of DSG are low gear palsing noise, lost speed for no reason, and clutch pack overheat. Can you tell me the model code of this DSG used on B8.5 S4?
wow, that was so easy... so, why they wanted $1400 for this job? I also changed engine oil while it was lifted. Thanks for the video. S5 is exactly the same
I do not know if I should service DSG for my Audi S5 3.0 2014 by distance or time? ... The dealership changed the gearbox around 100,000 KM ( 62,000 miles). the car reaching 135,000 ( 83,000 miles ) in almost 4 years without DSG service. can you please advice @deutsche auto parts
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DSG Oil Fill Tool for VW and Audi # VAS6262
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OBDeleven Pro Scan Tool
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JUST got done doing this on my 2013 B8.5 S4... like 10 minutes ago lol. Many many thanks for making this video.
The only thing I did differently after reading through the audi forums, was to fill it cold until it started to leak out and put the fill plug back on, finger tight.
Then, instead of turning the car on and filling once it reached temperature, I turned the car on, shifted it into each gear to load the new filters, then shut it off quickly.
Next I filled it again until it was leaking and then took the fill tube out completely and put the fill plug back in, finger tight.
Then I turn the car back on for the final time, wait until it reached temp, and then opened the fill plug and let the excess pour out.
Once it stopped leaking it should be at the right level, so I put the plug back in and torqued it down.
Can it be done without a car lift, a ramp doesn't appear to allow enough room.
@@MHL1528I did mine on 4 jack stands
I don't think the car let's you shift while stopped
Someone asked me $500 for labor only to change the transmission fluid and another $150 for an engine oil change. After this great video I am going to do it by myself. thanks
Thanks Paul for your awesome line-up of parts, great prices & taking the time for making this & all your videos..... I would like to offer up some advice when removing the trans pan(also applies to oil pans), always leave 1 bolt loosely screwed in on the opposite side of where you want the residual DSG fluid to drain towards, that way once most of the fluid has drained, you can then hold the pan with 1 hand while you unscrew the last bolt with the other hand or if the pan is stuck to the trans & you need to do a little prying, you can pry the pan loose without it falling to the ground, possibly causing damage to the pan & once the pan is loose, now hold the pan with 1 hand while you unscrew the last bolt with the other hand. Thanks again for everything you do for the community.
The DL501 (0B5) has two separate oil systems and I'm changing both when I have to do the DSG oil change:
1. ATF oil aystem:
The first oil system accommodates the dual clutch, the mechatronic system and the oil supply (around 7 liters - this is what you changed).
This ATF provides rapid response of the shift and clutch control mechanisms even at low temperatures, and serves to lubricate and cool the dual clutch.
2. Gear oil system
The second oil system incorporates the manual gearbox, the transfer case (centre differential) and the front axle drive (4.35 liters of a different oil type).
Lubrication is by means of a hypoid gear oil with a special oil additive for the centre differential. By separating these oil chambers, it has been
possible to design the individual component parts of the gearbox optimally. Thus, it was not necessary to make any compromises due to conflicting demands on the lubricant.
after the first 5 liters i did not see the gearbox being run in all positions for a few seconds.
I changed mine at 40K miles and it came out clear, so I believe it probably won't need change for a much longer time
Thanks again DAP for the DYI...I followed it to a T and ended up with about only 6 bottles going back in...maybe not as much of mine came out when I drained. Anyway...maybe it's placebo but I could swear the car feels like it's shifting faster and more crisply now.
amazing, thank you , i search my s4 right now😍
What Ive been waiting for..Thank goodness
I was behind the Audi a couple days ago, and that car is soo good looking in person.
To anyone who will be attempting this. The bolts he removed are to be replaced. All of them (trans pan and brace) are mandatory replacement parts. There is a tightening sequence and specific torque to all the bolts he removed. The way he filled it is wrong. Don’t ever run your vehicle without fluid in the transmission. Fill the transmission with fluid before you start the car. When the trans temperature gets to 35 Celsius open the fill plug while it is running. Let fluid run out until you get a steady drip and reinstall the plug. You must do all this before the temp gets to 45 c or the transmission will have less oil then required.
He did put fluid in the transmission and then started car and waited for it to warm up to top it off, or did I miss something?
But he did put some in there first before starting the engine. You missed a huge chunk of video...lol
k daus he did explain it right in his own way I’m a master mechanic and can say that this video is ok !
Surely though before you refit the fill plug after filling you must wait for the steady stream of oil to stop otherwise the transmission would be overfilled ?
Would have never challenged my DSG service without this video. VERY detailed and gave me the confidence to do it myself. I spent about $200 + $69 for the OBD11 tool...much cheaper than Audi quoted me or even a Euro shop. Thanks Dap. Only thing I’d mention is keep mind of where you place the plastic hose. Mine barely touched the exhaust and started to smoke when I was awaiting for the fluid to heat to 40C.
Hi mate do you still own the car. What issues did it have till now?
@@jerryx2000 After 4.5 years, I have sold to Audi Jan 2023. It was an amazing car with no issues at 128,000 miles.
@@SaintNick289 why did you sell it then?
Half of your comment isn't even English. WTF?
Never a better example of perfect timing.. I am watching this video for the first time on Groundhog Day 2-02-2019!!
Also very informative! I'm overdue for my trans service. Thanks for the tutorial guys.. I will have to come by and visit the shop one day.
Love your videos! Very professional. Your videos are one of the reasons I was confident to buy a B8 S4. I would love to see a video on the sport diff fluid change!
Thank you your effort to make this video, helping te DIY guys. Reading the comments I decided to share a material found on the web. Sorry for the long text. Consist of three parts: draining, filling and checking-topping up ATF level.
Other notes:
A) concerning the fittment of the internal filter. I do not recommend to clean the O ring width alcohol in order to make it tight enough fitment. Professionals using an O ring on the "+" positioner to make tight fitment.
B) I do not believe the "30-50 degree the right level" explanation. DO a simple test: fill in a glass bottle width scaling on the side width ATF. Measure the level at 30 degree celsius. Note the level. Heat up to 50 degree celsius. Note the level. Compute the difference between the levels. My first guess is that the result is not measureable, ie. less than 1mm. The correct reason behind this explanation could be simple: over 50 degree celsius the ATF is burning the (gloved) hand when the fill plug is fitted.
Good reading and use it on your risk.
Draining ATF
1. Engine not running.
2. Vehicle must be absolutely horizontal (drive it onto a four-pillar lifting platform or over an inspection pit).
3. Selector lever at position “P”.
4. Parking brake button must be pulled up to apply the electromechanical parking brake.
5. Remove rear noise insulation
6. Place used oil collection and extraction unit below gearbox.
WARNING
Risk of eye injury, wear safety goggles.
7. Remove ATF drain plug -arrow- and allow ATF to drain off.
8. Renew seal for ATF drain plug.
9. Tighten ATF drain plug - 45nm.
Note
The exchangeable ATF filter must always be renewed if the ATF is changed
Filling gearbox with ATF
Caution
Risk of damage to gearbox
= Use only the ATF supplied as a replacement part for dual clutch gearbox 0B5.
= Select correct type
= Other types of ATF or other oils cause malfunctions and/or failure of the gearbox.
= The ATF filling unit must be clean and the ATF must not be mixed with other types of oil!
= The engine must not be started if only a little or no ATF remains in gearbox after repair work or after excessive ATF leakage.
10. Fill reservoir of ATF filling unit
11. Secure reservoir for ATF filling unit as high as possible on vehicle.
12. Remove ATF inspection plug
13. Insert filler nozzle of ATF filling unit into ATF inspection hole.
14. Fill with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole.
15. Shift selector lever into position “P”.
16. Start engine and turn off after 20 seconds.
17. Continue filling with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole.
18. Start engine and allow to run at idling speed.
19. Continue filling with ATF using ATF filling unit until ATF comes out of inspection hole again.
20. Fit ATF inspection plug = 45nm.
21. Stop the engine.
Check ATF level
Caution
Risk of damage to gearbox
= Use only the ATF supplied as a replacement part for dual clutch gearbox 0B5.
= Select correct type
= Other types of ATF or other oils cause malfunctions and/or failure of the gearbox.
= The ATF filling unit must be clean and the ATF must not be mixed with other types of oil!
Note:
= The ATF level will vary according to the ATF temperature.
= If the ATF level is checked when the ATF temperature is too low, this will result in overfilling.
= If the ATF level is checked when the ATF temperature is too high, this will result in underfilling.
= Both overfilling and underfilling will impair the function of the gearbox.
Test conditions
= Gearbox must not be in emergency running (backup) mode.
= Vehicle must be absolutely horizontal (drive it onto a four-pillar lifting platform or over an inspection pit).
= Selector lever at position “P”.
= Parking brake button must be pulled up to apply the electromechanical parking brake.
= Extractor hose(s) of an exhaust gas extractor must be connected. Extractor switched on.
= Air conditioner and heating system switched off.
= Vehicle diagnostic tester is connected.
= The ATF temperature should not be higher than 30°C at the beginning of the test (the temperature will rise during the test).
Checking ATF level
22. Read off ATF temperature.
Caution
Risk of damage to gearbox
= The engine must not be started if only a little or no ATF remains in gearbox after repair work or after excessive ATF leakage.
= In this case the gearbox must be filled with ATF before proceeding further
23. Start engine with selector lever in position “P”.
24. With brake pedal still depressed, select all gear positions (“P”, “R”, “N”, “D”, “S”) one after the other at idling speed, maintaining each position for at least 10 seconds.
25. Shift selector lever into position “N”.
26. Shift selector lever into position “P”.
27. Allow engine to continue running at idling speed.
28. Place used oil collection and extraction unit -VAS 6622A- below gearbox.
WARNING
Risk of eye injury, wear safety goggles.
29. When ATF reaches temperature of 30 ℃, unscrew ATF inspection plug.
30. The ATF level is correct if a small amount of fluid comes out at the ATF inspection plug when the ATF temperature is between 30 and 50 °C.
If this is not the case, top up ATF
Note
The ATF inspection plug must be screwed in again before the ATF reaches a temperature of 50 °C.
31. Tighten ATF inspection plug
Can you do a thermostat/pcv diy?
Great how-to, thank you! Did my DSG service over the weekend.
One thing I learned that you didn't mention: If you are using tubing to gravity feed in the new fluid, make sure to keep the tube as far away from the cats as possible. I tucked mine in between the bell housing and the hard lines. It took a while for the trans fluid to get up to temp and so the exhaust was fully up to temp and prone to melt my tubing if I routed any other way.
This videos is the easiest explanation on how to DIY on a modern day piece of art.
In this day in age, learning more about your vehicle and DIY like this & less about the couch and how potatoes are grown there.. is priceless.
Great video and advice 👍🏻 Newly subscriber
After watching a few of your videos I kind of want to visit my brother now down just outside of charlotte so I can have you guys service my audi XD. Very well done video's and seem like a great place to go for service.
Great video man I’m actually working on a q5 and this video definitely helped me out definitely appreciate the hell out of you thank you !
great video, was debating on taking it to the dealership to get this done but with this great DIY I might do it myself. thanks!
truely excellent intelleigent well paced video. If only others were so good. Many thanks mate. Charles. Sydney Australia
I watched that some other channel the guy insert the air gun bottom of the oil bottle and He gave little pressure air and filled up much faster instead of prick to bottle👍
Very informative but given that most of us don't have a vehicle lift it would help to have some advice on how to do the refill procedure with just the usual ramps. Assume we need to do the whole thing on the ramp and then finally drive the car off and ramp so it's level, let excess spill then back on the ramp to fit plug and brace?
Correct me if i am wrong, but should you have started the vehicle and selected all the gears Before you carried out the final filling of the gearbox? Your method would have left the Transmission Fluid Level below the required level...??.
Great video, thanks a lot for this! Please can you confirm if this is the same gearbox at the RS4 B8.5 and if the procedure is the same? Many thanks 🙂
Great DYI, however when you install the new internal filter do not lube it up with oil. Instead clean it with alcohol this will help you hold the filter in place so that you can install the pan easier, otherwise the filter will droop and prevent you from installing the pan nice and flush. It’s almost impossible to get it installed by yourself.
Hi! I might have missed it, but I don’t think you mentioned when or how to check the level of the fluid once you have completed the change.
What I mean by that is that it’s unclear from the video whether or not to leave the gearbox in Neutral, Park or Drive and if the check (the slow continuous dripping of fluid) should be preformed with the engine off or not.
Some gearboxes need to be checked in the specific temperature interval, with the engine on and the gearbox in Parking. I was unsure if that applies to this model too.
Thanks again for the informative video!
Great video thank you, could you please advise whether you went through the gears while waiting for the gearbox to warm up. Thanks Ade
Good video. Cracked up when you dropped the pan. Should have left 1 or 2 bolts in loose. So they would catch pan when it came off body. Anyway... I noticed when the transmission was cold you only got about 4 L in yet when it got to 40 you got the rest of the bottles in? how much did it take total change and why do you get more in when the temperature gets to 40? Does some valve open or something. Remember you didnt flush or drop any cooler lines so i can only imagine you put back in what came out?
I really love your channel. You are the best my friend. The dealer changed my gearbox which was under warranty as my audi a5 v6 3.0T was running 60k miles and then I drove it for almost 25k miles in 4 years so I am not sure when should I change it .. is it by miles or age ?!
!!!Thank you!!! There is a great write-up on audizine, but its nice to see it being done. Could you do a video on the center and rear differential?
We will be doing both in the future
@@Deutscheautoparts did you manage to publish the videos on the differentials?
@@Deutscheautoparts Still waiting for that
@@Deutscheautoparts so does the DQ250 dsg box have an internal filter also? Or just in the DL501? I have a cupra 290 with the dq250 so was curious to find out
You can do it from underneath with 1 bar compressed air, work nice, about 1 litre in 2 minutes. Gravity takes forever. Good video
Your comment makes no sense.
Good video! I have a 2004 V8 4.2L 6 speed Touareg. I am starting to get kick backs from the gear box in 4th gear at low rpm. Should I change ATF?
Great video! is it the same on an Audi a4 Allroad 2015? The 2.0 TDI
Note to everyone doing this!
The drain plug and the fill plug aren’t the same.
Drain plug is a littlebit heavier cuz it’s magnetic to a smaller grad.
Just in time for me to do mine! Thanks!
Is that car equipped with a sport diff? I'd love a video to reference, since you guys also sell a kit.
Awesome vid,😎 it's on par with all the other DSG changes I seen for vids. I also noted a lot of the people try and change their diff fluid as well around that time while they are down there.
Quick question, does it not need to be cycled while you are filling it? 🤔🤔
It seems you only cycled it AFTER tightening the plug from being filled at recommended oil temp....
Thanks for this video! is the shifting gear to drain out all the oil for the gear oil system? is there any service for the gear oil system change?
Going to change mine today, thanks for the video. Would be interesting, if flushing the bigger part (7 litres) of the dsg is intended by audi at all? Everything I've ever read was that dsg-owners only change the fluid, they never do a flush of the dsg-part (ATF-system). Except for "Julian", from one of the older comments.
Awesome tutorial. Is there a B9 A4 tutorial as well?
Page not found (404) on the link to "
7 Speed Audi DSG Service Kit (Basic)" found in description. Great vid though... you got me shopping for used S4's now :)
Great video thanks, lifesaver after Audi never did it at the correct mileage yet still marked the car as having a full service history.
I only did the outer filter on this occasion because I have had to do so many other service items (again thanks to Audi not doing it) and I could only get around 5.5 litres in. Would this seem correct taking into account I didn't drop the pan or do the internal filter?
Thanks again, love your videos!
Every drivers in this world want to come to garage man!!
5:15 if the fluid isn't the correct kind, the safest thing to do is do a complete flush right? thanks.
Do you have to make some Basic adjustment with Vagcom or Obdeleven to purge the oil? Where I take my vehicle to change the s-tronic oil says it does something with the computer. That is why I do not dare to make this oil change to my vehicle. thanks for your help
@ 7:00 min LOL....great video though.....can you do one for the b8 6spd auto trans? :)
Great video thanks, How much DSG fluid did it end up taking?
Hello, very good video!
Is it similar on the Audi A4 b9??
Working as a VW mechanic and at first when I did a DSG-service I though that the fluid would smell really bad but it acually don't smell anything, the worst fluid that have a strong smell is on the haldex coupling
Hey great videos...do you have a video changing out the shifter gear box with shifter knob in a 2011 audi a4 2.0 quattro..
Hi, I love your vids. But I recall seeing one of you removing control arms. But the video isn’t there anymore. Can you advise what happened?
Where can I find diy for the diff oil? You mentioned it in the video :) very helpful video!
How many hours of labor is this? My local shop is saying 3 to 3.5 hours which seems high?
I have read so many different comments about what fluid is best to use and if adaptation of the dsg ckutches needs to be done after this service. Can you please comment? Thanks
I will wait the video for b9
Do the DSG trans's vary from car to car, or is this a pretty generic process? Asking because I have a 19' Q5
What's to stop the fluid (the fluid added when the car gets up to temp and is running) from draining back out the fill hole in the time between turning the car off and installing the plug?
good video i have a question S4 and S5 do the same procedure ? i have 2009 s5 Quattro
and how many transmission fluid do i need ? i look online say 9 liters and i call dealer say 11 liters i need , got me confused.
thank you !!
Hey Deutsche Auto Parts I'm looking at a 2010 Audi s4 7 speed tip tonic with 83k mile, my question is should I stay away from this year of S4 because of the transmission is prone to breaking down so easy. What are your thoughts on this and thanks for you time and videos.
Wow really great video if you dont have the OBDeleven Pro Scan Tool?
Very detailed and informative video! Thank you
Thank you for this! Would the process be the same or at least similar for a 2014 Q5??
A rather important part has been missed out. You must cycle the gears whilst it is warming up before doing the second fill otherwise it will be underfilled.
Are you guys planning to post any videos for the new generation of audi a6 v6 3.0T trans dsg oil change
The a series don't have the dual clutch trans jus the 3.0t
Do you all have a video of using OBDeleven to do the dsg adaptation on this transmission?
hello is the same for Audi q 5 tdi quattro 2.0 8R 177 sline 2014
Would putting regular trans fluid in a DSG cause it to start to malfunction? We're there any issues before you did the service?
Man I am so glad I got rid of my Passat with DSG and got a GTI with a manual.
mk7?
Yes sir. 2016, just turned 70K.
Clever choise man
Hey Paul, do you have a link you could share on this service procedure? I would like to do some more reading.
Hope you will answer my question. First of all, thank you for great video, now I’m not afraid doing it by myself!
My A6 C7 2.0 tdi 190 hp. 2016 also got the OB5 DL501 7-speed s-tronic gearbox. Isn’t it the exact same procedure like your showing? Thanks in advance.
And the same ordering kit/oil ?
@@reneandersen667 HI
I have the same audi A6 as Rene anderson AND Audi change my gear box oil and they only put 3.5 l of oil . is that correct what they have done???
@ccharraf
Hey. In the meantime, I've found out much more with the gearbox. The s-tronic 7 speed gearbox I have and probably you too is a DL382. I found a really good description on audiworld.com. It also says that when replacing the DSG oil, 3.5 L of liquid is used.
@@reneandersen667 thank you very much
I had a question that I think you might be able to answer. I was wondering, on the 2015 VW Passat, how does the fuel door actuator work because mine doesn’t lock the door. I can hear it work, but it doesn’t lock because the part doesn’t turn. Is it something the actuator is supposed to do? Or is it some kind of plastic on the door that’s supposed to turn it as it closes it? Thanks in advanced.
Is it the same for VW Mk7 Golf R? Is there any differences? Whats your milage recommendation for this service? Is there an internal filter as well?
Can you guys please do a test pipe install video or cat replacement? There are literally none online. Thanks
I’m wondering how much error is allowed regarding the volume you put in. If adding back identical amount is easier in practice, I don’t want to spend so much time doing this.
I did not see the part where he run the trans in all gear positions before filling it up. Isnt this necessary on the DL501? What oil is needed for the other side of the transmission?
The oil that came out of the transmission looked like the gear oil you showed in the other bottle. Could they have made that mistake and used gear oil? Just a thought.
I agree, they must have made that error. Would be interesting if he noticed any hard gear changes, or what finally made him change the gear fluid on the s4.
Deutsche Auto Parts I had a question that I think you might be able to answer. I was wondering, on the 2015 VW Passat, how does the fuel door actuator work because mine doesn’t lock the door. I can hear it work, but it doesn’t lock because the part doesn’t turn. Is it something the actuator is supposed to do? Or is it some kind of plastic on the door that’s supposed to turn it as it closes it? Thanks in advanced.
Is it basically the same for a B8 S4. I getting ready to do mine and have had a hard time finding a service manual for this car Thanks
We have 2013 Audi Q7 Supercharged 3.0 Liter with the 8 speed automatic transmission. Is there difference in the procedure to change our Q7? If so what is the difference?
Hi, just recieved a service kit, Swag dsg oil and Meyle gasket and filters. Are they as good as oem stuff or should I return it and buy oem.
Thanx
Where does the additional 2L go between the initial 5L pre-heating and the total 7L ?
As a few others have asked in the comments, do you need to shift through P, N , D , R at all during this? Perhaps while its coming up to temperature or when its up to temperature?
What scan tool are you using?
Any chance to know what type of oil is used on the center differential(The one that's attach to the transmission), I found an article that say to use GL4 instead of GL5 because it's known to eat away at brass transmission components such as gear synchros? But I cant find any more information about the type of oil to use on the center differential.
For tuned modded cars..Is it true OE DCT Fluid should be only use? Or other Non OE Fluid brand also fine?
So i’m confused. why do you use 6.8 liters. looks like you have about 2 or more liters in the pan on the ground. when i did mine it only took 4.5 liters and it spilled out the fill plug super fast. ran it and tried to add more but it was still spilling out the drain plug. i didn’t change the internal filter but i couldn’t imagine that internal filter having 2 liters of fluid in it.
8:38 it feels like the internal filter is barely holding on...shouldn't it clip on nicely and be firm? Also you didnt mention how much to fill up prior to turning the car back on and waiting for 40 degree temperature before putting in the rest
Yeah it should clip on.
Hi .. I have Audi 7 2013.. transmission working absolutely fine just I’m getting error Gear is overheating change driving style .. and fault code is P1765 hydraulic sensor 2 adaptation limit reached .. pls advise what could be the actual problem?? I
What mileage should you do this at??
Imagine Audi putting a fill hose for the tranny on in the engine bay. My gosh, it makes my head hurt that this isn't standard on any/all vehicles.
Interestingly, I have two Audis, a '12 S4, that's stage 2+ APR, it's a garage princess. The other is a '13 Q5. When I was having panoramic sun shade repaired/replaced they asked if I wanted them to service the trans. I said, why not, it had 60K miles on it, it was probably time. A month or so later, started having trans problems, even shifting into drive but it being in reverse really. Took it to my guy that is about an hour away, who is the only one I'll let touch my S4. He tore it down, tested the trans fluid and measured what came out. Said the trans was nearly 3 quarts low in fluid, with no leaks. I phoned the other shop and explained that they likely screwed me because the trans was blown. They said, "we'll need the car back to so we can see it for ourselves". 3.5K later in a new trans tells me they never did what was done in this video; i.e. they never went through the proper procedures to assure the trans was full of fluid.
Live and learn.
Very,very informative,thanks alot,
Hi Paul
Where is the oil coolant valve on 0b5 dl501 gearboxes iv heard they are external to the gearbox but can't find it on my b8 s4? Any advice would be appreciated thankyou
i have a question about my sifter cable on my b8.5 dsg it is broken and i cant sift into park. Is this a problem in most b8.5 and how would i go about fixing it? any links on buying the sifter cable or diy thoughts?
i have an audi s4 b8.5 with its mounted pulley and tunnig malone. my gearbox works normally when I drive normally on the street but when I want to accelerate fully it does not change gear and I have to throw the gear on the steering wheel to make a race. I want to know if it is normal or what happens to it. I was also told that It could be programming. 3 weeks ago I isolate the transmission maintenance complete with everything new. I fly I say the car handles super well but that fault only has it if you step on the acceleration pedal all of a sudden
It is strange that it is first time I heard about Audi uses DSG on Audi Sport Series product like this B8.5 S4, Chinese ver B8.5 S4 won't offer optional gearbox which is only AT gearbox because of that DSG China scandal. VW deal with different solutioin of Chinese people in different ways, Taiwan offers recall while Continent only offer lengthen quality guaranteeing. B9 and B9.5 S4 has AT gearbox for Chinese customers, no DSG. DSG (DCT) used to screw up the Chinese automobile market in 2012, especially the VW model of have DQ200 7 speed and DQ250 6 speed . The DSG malfunction model include Magotan, Golf, CC, Skoda, Satigar and Scirocco. Mostly, these phenomenon of DSG are low gear palsing noise, lost speed for no reason, and clutch pack overheat. Can you tell me the model code of this DSG used on B8.5 S4?
Which year this Audi ?
Really I have 2008 s4 with v8 I can`t fnd the full plag ?
Paul you should show off that Nogaro that's hidden away in the background ;)
wow, that was so easy... so, why they wanted $1400 for this job? I also changed engine oil while it was lifted. Thanks for the video. S5 is exactly the same
I do not know if I should service DSG for my Audi S5 3.0 2014 by distance or time? ... The dealership changed the gearbox around 100,000 KM ( 62,000 miles). the car reaching 135,000 ( 83,000 miles ) in almost 4 years without DSG service. can you please advice @deutsche auto parts
I have a 2019 Audi q5 2.0t would this be the same process for my car ?