THESE OLD CABLES WERE REALLY BADLY INSTALLED - Electrician Life
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Join Lee as he installs a new consumer unit for a Hypervolt electric vehicle charging point and discovers some shocking problems in the existing consumer unit which he has to fix.
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Time Stamps:
00:00 In todayâs episode
00:43 Congratulations to Lee!
01:03 Todayâs video sponsor: Tradify
01:57 Lee explains the install
03:29 Mounting the Hypervolt
03:51 Measuring up
05:14 A tip for tight stuffing glands
05:51 Winter cable hack
06:43 First look at the Fusebox
07:29 Choosing the location
10:35 Close call with the garage door
11:22 The boss checks in
11:31 Tim Tam tea break from Australia
11:42 Finishing up the Hypervolt
12:54 Planning for power shutdown
14:49 Shocking tails discovery
15:21 Explaining whatâs been done
15:57 Finishing touches and testing
16:35 Conclusion
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Nice job lee bjt electrics
Great Job Lee, however one thing I would recommend is to put the phase tails in the back termination of the Henley Block as I see you put the neutral in the back. This is because it is less likely for someone to accidentally touch the phase block when working on the Henley Block as the back terminals are recessed. Just what Iâve been taught.
Great tip, well spotted!
@@artisanelectrics When I do tails to a henly block, I always do Neutral front, live/phase, back.
Great to see Lee so chatty and relaxed!
When I fit a Henley I was told always put it on a fire proof board but I donât see any problem with the wall like you have done. Our company wonât allow it on wall. Neat job
Great to see some pride shown in the jobs you all do. Congrats Lee completing the probation.
I have to take my hat off to you and the company. You're among the best in the industry. You all are so young not too young and you do exceptional work. I wish you all were here in there states. Keep the marvelous work up.
Itâs nice to see someone taking pride in their work ~ well done.
Great Job Lee, nice to see pride at work. So neat and tidy, a credit to your profession.
Great job Lee.
Congrats Lee ! Absolute champion , gun sparkie . Love watching you boys
GREAT job Lee
Congrats Lee, welcome to the team. đâĄïž
looks so neat, Lee, really nice mate!!
Well done Lee in prising the box of Tim Tams out of the stash I sent! Nice
Perfect install! These are the sparks you want on your job
Thanks!
In austraila you can become a authorized electrical contractor and work on DNO equipment. It saves so much time, allows you isolate and work safet
I've commented on Cory job so only fair I comment on yours, firstly I picked up some installation tips from you Lee, cheers for that. The only feedback I can give is: I would have put the Henley block between both fusebox's to give protection from knocks and high up away from kids.
Interesting that Artisian are not responding to the comments on cutting the meter seals, guess Jordan isn't comfortable with it?
Great video - Jordan is spoilt having you, Cory and Reuben as a team đ
Nice job Lee, lucky to have the main CU just on inside wall opposite the charger
Congrats Lee on getting through your probationary period đ
Lee van tour đ
Iâm amazed at the number of EVSE installs outside of garages.
The choice to park a $60,000.00 vehicle outside in order to store $200.00 worth of junk in the garage is simply bonkers. Great install Lee.
It does defy logic doesnât it đ
Start drilling hole without hammer on,usually prevents damage to brick
Congratulations to lee for a successfully finishing his probationary period welcome to the team!! Looking forward to more videos!
3 Month is a little excessive to behonest.
@@AlexCreemers It's the law.
So is it just artisan electrics that is allowed to cut tags off and pull the main fuse without getting the dno involved on video ?
Everyone else gets camera shy pablo to do it
How do you know that Pablo didn't go round? :D Just because they didn't mention it :p
He even upgraded the tails from the cut out to meter
@@martynlyne definitely a no go âŠâŠcourt case pending I reckon. âŠ.if Iâd done that in my days as an electrician Iâd have been shot.
Go on Lee ur smashing it
Tidy and congratulations Lee đđ
Great job Lee! Nice idea design wiring diagram. Good thing you caught the wire on the panel open. "DISGUSTING!" Oh my god! Thumbs up! Cheers!
Great job Lee đ
Was about to say youâre brave for thinking you could upgrade all those tails to 25mm in 15-30mins đ, looks really good Lee (first time seeing flexi tails. Congrats on securing the permanent too contract bro.
Super neat work Lee, nice job.
Very neat and tidy job Lee.
But......it is the DNOâs responsibility, to upgrade their supply cables and fit an isolation switch......and upgrade the main cutout fuse to 100A, if the DNO supply can cope with the extra demand??
Nice work Lee....
Nice work Lee
10:43 jajajajaja estuvo bueno el video, buen trabajo Lee.
Great job Lee. đ
Thanks đ
Well done Lee - 3 months goes quick huh!
Brilliant job
Looking lovely and sooooooo neat good job lee
I could watch Lee work everyday đŻđŻđđ°đ
Quality lads Quality
congrats lee keep the good work up
Thanks, will do!
Lee tampered with the meter the naughty boy
Nice neat job Lee
Looking good Lee. Reuben would be proud đ
Thanks đ
Very nice job!
Snaps on snagging Cory's snacks :)
Nagy did it!!
Cory has got some competition đ
Great job
Fuse box single module double pole rcbo, for ev charging curious can they be used on all supplies or just Tncs as chint make single module double pole rcbos but only good for tncs system
Anyone know where to get twin 25mm2 clamps to hold tails to the wall? I can't find anywhere!
Lee: Look at my lips, youâre ruining it.
Pipes: Sorry m8.
Also, good work Lee lad đ€đ»
Great Content Lee & nice one Join the Team .âĄïžđ
Much appreciated
@@artisanelectrics ur welcome âĄïžđ
Already 3 months with Lee! Times flying
Neat. Apart from,,,,,,winding the charge cable anti clock wise,are you a lefty? Very neat job.
Nice job Lee. Really enjoy your content
Glad you enjoy it!
Cory would love the shoutout on Thomas Nagys latest video about a tip
TimTams can be purchased from Tesco, or could a couple of years ago.
Nice job though Lee.
I am keen to know why not just change that 16th board for an RCBO/SPD CP Fusebox one for the cost of it? Lots of unprotected circuits on that old DB!
Hey Lee, what is the purpose of a handly block? Just to connect the cables, or is there any other function inside?
Its a massive junction box. With solid, thick brass terminals. That's all
Did not think you could changed the tails coming out of head because thatâs power network kit
Very nice, neat job. I can see why Lee has easily completed his probation.
Think I would've preferred a water-blocking gland on the 6mm into the charger rather than a stuffing gland tbh (and maybe a slightly larger bend radius) but I'm not an electrician, so prepared to be educated. Didn't get a close look at the incoming service cable but it *might* only be a 16 sq mm concentric so the DNO might be reluctant to fuse the cable-head at 100A. The 16mm cable should be able to deal with 100A surface mounted but it depends on the DNOs own rating tables, I suppose.
Finally - please, please wear light eye protection when using power tools and hammering-in wall fixings! Enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Thanks! What is a water-blocking gland?
@@artisanelectrics sorry, to be more specific, a brass gland type CW (I think), rated IP66.
@@protectiongeek the cable he used isn't armoured so a stuffing gland is all that's needed to maintain the IP rating. They are IP65 I believe.
@@puntoboy_gt good point. I had assumed it was armoured tbh.
@@protectiongeek they do EV ultra in both, but you can often use the non-armoured version unless it's being buried.
Are FuseBox rcbos now double pole? Great install đđŒ
only the smaller rcbo the tall ones are single pole.
Out of interest, why wasn't the henley block installed 'upside down' so you would have a 'n' shape from the isolator, and a stright down 'I' from the new box so there is a bit less cabling? (Not that it really matters, just would think looks a bit neater).
It wouldn't comply with regs if it was upside down (IP4X/IPXXB for horizontal top surfaces)
@@artisanelectrics Ah ok cool thanks, makes sense!
I doubt that the Artisan surveyor costed in replacing the tails from service head, but I love that you did the right thing and didn't skimp. Weren't you worried that the loss of power to a smart meter would be noticed by elec supplier and notified to the DNO? I note that you sealed everything properly with flag seals as well. Do you ask customer to notify supplier that seals have been changed?
My Napit assessor has said the board at the clients house needs upgraded tails before he can sign me off. ÂŁ295 to Western power inc isolation switch and ÂŁ50 to UW for their part in and out of meter. Can't do the board change or go live with Napit till the new year. Client not happy.....or me . Can you blame Lee?
Hi great video, is the EV ultra cable swa ? Noticed compression glands on each end .
that would have been good to know, too
No..
That's why he used a stuffing / compression gland
Lee looks great just one question as you changed tails in original board looks like in video I could stick a finger in the earth and tails holes in DB is this possible and would you be responsible now?
It's better than it was mate!
@@timahad5165 not complaining love all their work but as I am training just interested in what can & can't be done
If you did that you would deserve the Darwin award
Amazing videos have you ever thought about trying to get brown L and blue N stickers to put on the tails coming in and out of the Meter like I have to do when fitting meters?
Why when the cables are coloured?
your man Lee do good job !! sorry thats Nick catch fraise
You are left handed so would the charging cable around the charger the opposite direction to most people . But I think you still put the plug đ hanger in the right place
Didnât think you could go into top of service head or meterđ€šđ
I get the point of upgrading all the tails but, will Lee not get in bother with the dno with meter seal tampering? Would Lee not have been better off just leaving all the tails from the meter and just renew from his isolator then call the dno?
thank you for calling it by its real name, a Henley block ;)
Had to do a double take, thought Lee was smoking at the start đ
Haha no just a pencil!
Lee doesn't come across as the type to be grafting away with a rollie hanging out his gob đ...me on the other hand đ
Are those mains tails single insulated or double? Didn't think you were allowed to have exposed single insulated cables, had to be behind a cover like a meter panel or something. But otherwise really nice and neat work.
@@thewebface yeah sweet I see that now, I've never seen double ins with the colour on the outside, usually only the inner has colour.
You can't touch the main tails from the main fuse cut out
Im amazed that you are permitted to run single insulated cable with no mechanical protection. In Australia we would just do it all with conduit
They are double insulated just the outer is the same colour as the inner.
3 by 6 SWA ? Wow , what you chargin !
It that a toilet cistern in the garage?!
Guess it's a way of saving space the other side of the wall
Yeah, I noticed that!
Brave or foolhardy; I'm not sure. To pull a fuse is one thing. After all we are supposed to work on dead circuits unless impossible. But to break into a meter, that's another level. Maybe pedantic, but I would do work down to isolator and leave it to supplier to upgrade tails between fuse and isolator. They often do it for free.
Agreed. Even the SSEN arrangement where scheme-registered sparks are allowed to pull fuses specifically forbids cutting meter seals.
how long you had that pencil for mate? haha
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I'm surprised that Pablo didn't put a nice new fuse in for you whilst he was there.....
Pablo torqued the terminations up also đ he's so helpful đ
Who the heck is Pablo ? :D :D
@@evzenhedvabny6259 chris from CJR its his best mate
@@anthonyridgley1819 I see. So tis Pablo guy must be very busy. I have heard a rumour that one can become Pablo legally with some DNOs. They even equip you with temporary seals and you report them the jobs you used them on.
Pukka đđŒ
Itâs almost like Lee was the missing member of Artisan, a genuine perfect fit for the team! Canât believe how many keyboard warriors watch these videos though lol!
For all I know, Artisan or the client notified the DNO of the charger installation, had requested upgrade to a 100amp cut-out, and conceivably the DNO condoned substitution of existing tails to 25mm. With 6mm EVUltra from the new Fusebox CU to the Hypervolt, I think 25mm tails from the Henley block to the new Fusebox CU was excessive ~ that's my only criticism.
25mm2 about 100 amps, 16 mm2 70 amps, 6mm2 40 amps. 100 amp fuse supply to the consumer units in the future from the existing 60 amp.
Those existing 16mm tails are what, 60cm long? Couldn't you argue that 'upgrading' to 25mm was pointless....
ESQCR 2002
Connections to installations or to other networks
25.-(1) No person shall make or alter a connection from a distributorâs network to a consumerâs installation, a street electrical fixture or to another distributorâs network without that distributorâs consent, unless such consent has been unreasonably withheld.
... maybe they have concent?
Funny how we now call âearthsâ C.P.C s and consumer units or breaker boards, are called fuse boards ,Iâm confused !!!???
i think all that wiring should be boxed in
Should of made the cable off in the unit then fed it behind the pipes and then fixed it to the wall
So weird for me as a danish electrician, that you are allowed to use single isolated cable without conduit đŻ
They are double insulated, just the outer sheath is colour coded too đđ»
Det er dobbeltisoleret, begge lag isolering er bare farvet đ
Ahh okay, thatâs make more sense then đđȘ And keep the good vids coming.
I was thinking the same thing. The 100 amps for a household is weird too. Here (Belgium) 40 is standard.
@@fennegvdgvd I guess it's because it's single phase, we usually have around 20-40A, but then it's three phase supply.
I do like these videos, but they do get pretty boring. Theres only so many times I can find a EV charger install entertaining.
Unfortunately with the UK banning the sale of fossil fuel powered cars in the future, there's gonna be no shortage of EV installs.
Nice jib lee bjtelectrics
Who's the guy at the start of the video?
LOL
Not seen you on the tools for a while!
Thought I saw your Tesla in Alnwick, Northumberland. Long way from home đ
Could you have put the Henley block upside down and saved all those bends?
What is the IP rating of a henley block.
I imagine you cant mount it upside down because dust can pile up in the terminations or something like that.
Don't be a dingbat Jez
@@tommymack3210 IP 2O on Contactum version.
Cable behind HOT pipes ???
There is lagging (ie insulation) around each of the pipes. Lagging severely reduces heat loss from the pipes. In practice, if you touched the lagging whilst the central heating is in operation, the laggin will feel lukewarm-warm. The 6mm cable (taking in account any derating you apply due to the heat load from the pipes) will still have sufficient current carrying capacity for the charger installed.
Excellent reply, just testing, I'm a building services engineer so know " a little" about heat dissipation đđđ Plenty of "keyboard warriors " about ! If you can do better, show us âĄïžâĄïžâĄïž
Nice install but not again, cutting seals and installing your own 100a dp without DNO approval
Not sure who cut the seal (it wasn't mentioned in the video?), but Lee did state he would recommend the customer contact the DNO and upgrade the existing 60A fuse to a 100A fuse. Whether the DNO approves the customer's request this is another question...
Howâs Oscar getting on these days