London Underground: Old Tube Trains on the Bakerloo Line
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2015
- ** Commentary is contained in the closed captions for this video. **
This film shows some old 1972 Tube Stock on the Bakerloo Line of the London Underground.
As the name suggests, the 1972 Stock has been manufactured in the 70s, and it is currently the oldest underground stock in service at the London Underground.
The films shows some trains entering and leaving Waterloo and Lambeth North stations, as well as a short ride from Elephant & Castle to Lambeth North.
Enjoy!
Filmed on Friday, 9th of October 2015. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
For old trains - they are pretty well maintained. Trains in my city are only a few years old and already breaking down due to poor maintenance. With the way things are going, these trains will outlive our newer trains.
J Groenveld the 1972 mk2 and the few converted mk1s recently got life extension work done on them to keep them going for another 5 to 10 years
They are ill last until the 2060s I 💭
These trains will be in service for another seven years at least. Plans for them include a brand new refurb inside again, the removal of the no smoking signs on the windows (sadly), new traction motors are also a possibility and a new vinel exterior and interior. They were going to transfer 1967 stock from the Victoria line onto the Bakerloo as well but sadly they are programmed for ATO and are not compatible with Bakerloo line signalling. Hence why they were scrapped. The 1973 stock on the Piccadilly line are due to be replaced with NTFL first in 2021, then the Central and Waterloo and City Lines and finally the Bakerloo line. I am guessing the 1972 or 1992 stock will be moved to the Island Line on Isle Of Wight to replace the 1938 stock there. The 1973 stock are almost certainly all destined for the scrapyard.
Like our old crocks on the Southern Region, all replaced by souless plastic foreign - designed junk, that won't last as well, and when it konks out, as it frequently does, the crew can't fix it. Glad I'm retired from the wasteful PC farce that is today's "railway" Only the 313/508/455/442 make sounds like proper EMU stock should !
Central line trains are just horrible
Congratulations on capturing a moment where Waterloo station was actually quiet!
These trains have been thoroughly refurbished. Originally they were unpainted aluminium on the outside and the interiors were VERY different- the rounded panels by the doors were much more square and the seats had proper arm-rests. They were first introduced on the Northern line and I well remember seeing one and being very impressed. I was sitting on a 1938 stock train at the time and dashed across the platform so I could be the first in my "Underground Train Club" to ride on one. Thanks for bringing back some happy memories with you excellent film. You did well to find a time with fewer passengers.
Although I have only been on it 4 times ( Marylebone - Embankment and back twice ), I love the squeaking and the clickity clack of the Bakerloo lines old trains.
The Bakerloo line (1972 stock) and Piccadilly line (1973 stock) by far are the best on the whole underground network in terms of comfort.
Waits for that triggered person to comment
@@bobthebadassbuilder8086 You mean that 9 year old named Lubdhak Das?
@@killerkeemstar5572 Yes. him
@@bobthebadassbuilder8086 He is a arsehole
@@killerkeemstar5572 who is Lubdhak Das
Well those trains may be the oldest ones now, but damn they're really comfy inside !
I know they have big seats!!
+Sammy Tlili like a nice warm armchair
Ellis Holden what’s wrong with you? Are you incapable of responding with a civil comment?
@@Great_WesternTVFan you've just admitted your an idiot
Thanks for the great video! I really love your captions, helps add a lot of interest
+twentyone21 Thanks! I'm glad you like them.
Luftschlange and the
Since you have made this video, London Underground are in the process of refurbishing the interior of the 1972 Mk2 stock with new flooring and seat moquettes.
+Amir Dawoodbhai Yeah, true :-)
Amir
Is this the one way you can get a better I
@@gwengemmell6029 What?
@@gwengemmell6029 English much?
@@gwengemmell6029??
I went on that platform the other day 'Mind The Gap!' Maybe thats an understatement more like 'Mind The Void!'
Sounds about right!
Nature abhors a void.
Ggg
These are the most famous design of London Underground train of all time. When you think of London Underground, you immediately see a train that looks like these at the front!
This line is very underrated in my opinion!
Agree
I really like these old trains and I find the announcements so cute!
The announcements are made by a women called Emma Clarke. She's done announcements for the Central Line and D78 District line trains as well.
@@seaside-dn8dp and the c stock on the Circle line
@@Great_WesternTVFan but in 2009 the C stock announcements were replaced by Sarah Parnell
@@Great_WesternTVFan well most of them
@@TheSearleFamily123 yes
VERY coll video! thanks for your example!
Ive heard that even in 2021, they have about 10 years left, which is quite crazy considering they are already 50 years old
@@KGM338 still 7 or 8 years is plenty of time for a minimum, and there’s a high chance that the last ones will run at 60 years old
I love the announcement at 0:16
Thorben Küster me too
I prefer "MIND THE GAP"
+Luftschlange Deine Videos sind einfach großartig. In diesem kam das jetzt nicht so vor, aber ich erlaube es mir mal trotzdem, das hier zu beloben :D Ich finde es klasse, dass du Dinge immer etwas länger filmst, bevor du dann in die Station übergehst. In deinen Videos gibt es z.B. Szenen, in denen du den Stationseingang etwas länger filmst, mal das ein oder andere Schildchen ablichtest. Deine Videos sin in meinen Augen seeehr professionell. Ich würde mich über weitere Videos der London Underground sehr freuen, wenn du natürlich die Zeit und die Lust dazu findest. Mach unbedingt weiter so!
What the heck does this nonsense mean
@@Farleigh1050 No need to be so rude
@@dronespace you re
Reminds me of the 67’ stock. Miss them on the Vic line
Stolen comment
Amazing how that old stock has lasted. Must have bee late at night when you filmed this, hardly anybody getting on and a few getting off.
In fact this is what it looks like in the middle of the day. The section between E&C and Waterloo is almost neglected!
Maybe no it’s not. Just people at e&c would much rather use the northern line
@TheRenaissanceman65 shut up its not about where you go idiot
The Bakerloo line on the whole is a pretty quiet line, only in rush hour in the Oxford Circus area does it get crush loaded, and events at Wembley people going to Wembley Central. Other than that it’s pretty dead hence why its upgrades keep getting pushed back as the Central and Piccadilly lines are far more in need of converting first.
Looking at Lambeth North, you can see why it's currently closed for upgrading can't you.
That's for sure
I went there the other day post-refurbishment and it still looks just as run down at platform level, unfortunately.
Eh,discusting
Eh, it's not as bad at NYC subway trains.
Doesn't look good--badly looked after!!
My favorite tube line!
Mine 2,
1972 train is the worst
@@Great_WesternTVFan Piss off plz
I love it as well
@@killerkeemstar5572 Same. My local train.
Great video.
Yeah they are old trains, but its quite nice seeing a foreigner's idea of them, they are some of the fastest on the tube network actually and reach their top speed frequently between stations, you dont rally see the speed, you feel the speed when riding on it.
i love the design of the inside of the train
I think the 1972 stock is my favourite that is still in service
Mine 2
I don't like them
But their seats are nice though
1:53 that train was going quite fast!
ok how that train didnt crash but it was a sharp turn
The trains often do hit the platforms at speed! Especially the ones on the automatically driven lines such as the Victoria.
Too fast for a London Underground Train
@@definitelydumb2357 wdym? Subway trains normally move at that speed, unless your from america
@@definitelydumb2357 its called a underground tube train you fucking dickhead
De très belles voitures ! Rénovation réussie !
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omg I like the new train design
Same
That train look very clean and fresh! It looks like it has been refurbished. I think these tube cars will last very long!
@TheRenaissanceman65 He is a twat. Ignore him
@@Great_WesternTVFanHoW CoUld YoU DiSaGrEe WiTh Me.
@TheRenaissanceman65 what did i just say
@TheRenaissanceman65 i forgot since i deleted it
These trains aren't clean and fresh they're cheap and unreliable
I love the 1972 stock
0:16 the platform announcement is probably the best part
Bakerloo Line 1972 Tube Stock
I still think they have treated the 1973 stock a lot better than these units. When they were refurbished between 1998 and 2000 they had new centre windows installed, Passenger information screens put in and Dot matrix destination points installed. I could never understand why they did this with the 1973 stock and didn't bother doing it with the 67 and 72 stock. Although I have heard the new flooring and seating is just the start of the refurbishment of 72 stock as it will be in service another seven years at least. You can see they have had their outside paintwork stripped off on some units and some traction motors sound quieter and different from the others. It would however not surprise me if the Bakerloo line gets overlooked for NTFL and they use 92 stock on this line instead. They are bound to come up with the excuse that they have run out of money to complete rolling it out.
These have my favourite moquette
Ben Gale the 1972 refurb mk1 stock has best seat, red with black dots
Unbelievable that this is more than 50 years old
Fun fact. These trains were considered to be upgraded to ATO on the jubilee line in the underground section. They would use the same system as the 1967 stock trains sadly that didn't happen and they ran as OPO
Thank you, Kim!
They were in a hurry in the 1970s
These are a lot more maintain then the R46’s in NYC
Its literally 3 years newer and breaks down way more frequently lmao
Much more interesting than S Stock!
900000000000000000x better than the crappy s stock
Whatever you say, bub
Nice
Even though it doesn't have for matrix displays it still has on board announcements :)
Unlike the A stock, no matrix displays, Outdated destination bar blinds on the ends, Manual announcements, unlike all other lines, and they have soo many electrical sparks when crossing tracks due to a loose shoe bogie, and once, an A stock caught on fire because it was running top speed, then it's bogies exploded. And they keep having fires from the motor
it has been around longer than the 1967 stock on Victoria line
nope. 1972 stock came into service in 1972. 1967 came into service in 1968. So 1967 is older.
Carol Stott The 72 stock has been around longer than the 1967 stock on the Victoria line. The 1967 stock had served for 43 years (because it retired in 2011) and the 1972 stock has served for 46 years which is a few years difference.
The 1972 mk2 stock made its service debut on the then new Jubilee line in the 70s, a few worked on the Northern Line for a while before transferring to the Bakerloo Line in the late 1980s, releasing the spare 59s working there back to the Northern line.
The 1959 stock that worked on the Bakerloo Line, were spares from the Northern Line as there were service cuts on the Northern Line so they went to help on the Bakerloo Line to get rid of the 38s on the line.
@@Angrii the 1972 stock were built in two batches, The mk1s were for the Northern Line to help out the 1959 stock as there were not enough of them to run all Northern line services back in the day.
Mk2s were ordered for the Jubilee line when it was the new fella on the block back in the 1970s, some going to the Northern line for a while before transferring to the Bakerloo Line in the late 1980s, releasing the spare 59s back to the Northern line.
Both types were ordered quickly so they copied the 1967 Victoria Line cousin stock in design but both were driver and guard operation. Mk2s were later convertred to driver only working and refurbished along with a few ex Northern line mk1s and operate exclusively on the Bakerloo Line.
@@carolstott5337 1972 stock is older.
Nice video and this 1972 stock is actually 8 years younger than a R32 C,J & Z train since the R32 entered service in 1964 on the N and Q trains (Coney Island to Astoria Ditmars Blvd weekdays with N via 4th ave exp Q via Brighton Lcl & Broadway Express 57th-7th weekends Late Nights local after 10pm) and also 2 -3 years younger than a R42 J & Z due to the fact that the R42 started service during 1969-1970. Regarding Lambeth North it seems to resemble the BMT portion of Brooklyn Bridge City Hall Chambers Street platform for the J & Z trains since both Chambers St and Lambeth North was built from 1890s-1920
Should put one carriage into each museum so that tourists can take photos of these old trains.
Great video on underground trains mate 😊👍
Sehr gutes Video 👍 mit Kopfhören hört es sich richtig so an als wurde man auf dem Bahnsteig stehen. Fahr doch auch mal
He did take a ride though...
In waterloo station the curves made the platform and the doors harder to get to
Very nice came angle!
my comment from Japan
My previous occupation was a motorman
Wow! Those trains are a lot better maintained than our r46 trains :(
Tornected what country is that
Tom CFC Welcome to New York my friend.
Tornected Well, at least they are reliable cars.
ADAM MARS oh ok thanks
Lubdhak Das fuck you
I can’t imagine they were New ,years ago
oh it's Lambeth North
do these trains tilt? idk why it looks like it’s tilting around the curves lmao
i love this stock..the new designs look kinda ugly on some tubes
4:12 The clicks are from the pneumatic driven camshaft controller
Favourite line: Victoria Line
Least Favourite:Bakerloo Line
Ok
fav line: c stock district line and Piccadilly line
least fav line idk
Favourite line: Northern line
Last favourite: Bakerloo and Circle
Fav Bakerloo line:
Least fav Northern and Circle lines
For me, personally, it's:
Favourites:
1. Piccadilly Line
2. London Overground
3. Metropolitan Line
Least Favourite:
1. Bakerloo Line
2. Hammersmith and City Line
3. Waterloo and City Line
I do love the old stool when looked a bit dingy back then
yes
does anyone know if 1972 stock trains are wheelchair accesible? they look so cramped and narrow
Joshua Yong i think so
They are son
i mean it would be hard to get said wheelchair down an escalator or steps at a station without a lift plus it looks like the door isnt aligned to the platform
they look like the old 67 stock
awesomegamer2012 they copied the 67 stock as they needed quickly for the Northern and Jubilee lines and no time to build a new design.
John Showemimo that's interesting, thank
They do. But one difference is that the Bakerloo line has that small circle and the 1967 stock doesn't. Also the 1967 stock is faster than the 1972 trains
When I went to London I used the bakerloo and Victoria and I preferred the 72 stock on the bakerloo to the 09 on the Victoria
Not really
Lubdhak Das no
@@Great_WesternTVFan Your so salty because people disagree.
@@harryfoley2294 no u
Lubdhak Das W oh go away you silly melt
Im watching with 72% battery lmao
Bakerloo Line are getting new Trains in 2018, may count as these old Bakerloo Line stock Trains may turn scrapped. I wonder what the new Trains on the Bakerloo Line. Some many of you say the trains may come in about 2-3 months for testing. This same happened to the D78 stock which VivaRail needs them. I wonder how the motor sounds like!
There were plans to replace the 72 stock next year, although plans have been delayed and they will be replaced from 2025-27 at the earliest, with the 73 stock on the Piccadilly being replaced first in 2022. The 92s will then be next, replaced around 2029-32.
LiftFan Oh, ok.
I'm guessing the Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines are the only LU lines still using older rolling stock? or are there any other lines which still use older trains?
@@Great_WesternTVFan shut up
@@LiftFan then the Northern and jubilee lines in the 2040s
Wow
rip R-44 subway car :o
ill give you the link to the video
I heard it on some video that the bakerloo line is getting new trains by 2018
You may have came from a video from +Geofftech, but they are actually arriving much later than that, with the New Tube for London
You may have came from a video from +Geofftech, but they are actually arriving much later than that, with the New Tube for London
SmurfsFTW Dora&friendsFTL, no, because of the size of the S-Stock. They can't fit inside deep-level tunnels, so it will get new trains after the Piccadilly line trains.
They aren't being replaced by hitachi
2009 stock at waterloo
can I see it please
hey, Goya! That's an spanish artist.
0:05. Why is no one talking about the lovely background music
Only member of the family still in active service on the Bakerloo Line. It's 1967 1st stock cousin long scrapped from the Victoria line.
Second Cousin 1972 mk1 scrapped from duties from Northern Line in 1999 but a small number have been converted to driver only working and refurbished to Mk2 standard also on the Bakerloo Line.
Subsurface cousin C Stock scrapped from Circle, Hammersmith and City and District line between Wimbledon and Edgware Road.
Whos here because of Train Sim World 2
Except for the squeakiness, inlike the motors
Hmm the 1972 stock is getting old on the Bakerloo line isn't it time to have new trains on the Bakerloo line
There will be. Google "New Tube for London".
it looks like the 1967 stock the inside of the train
+Luftschlange before that they will put the S7 stock on it
S stock is already on the Hammersmith & city, District, Circle and the Metropolitan lines
GoodUsersYes BadUsersNo yes and they are putting it on the bakerloo line too
aldwych????
валерий любич no
On the captions, it says it operates the 1972 Stock but it is supposed to be to be 1967 Stock. I think the Piccadilly Line operates the 1972 Stock
1967 stock was the former Victoria line stock. The 1972 stock is very similar to the 67 stock but has guard controls and no automation and a different interior. The Piccadilly line operated 1973 stock which has a significantly different interior
Alasdair Clift the 1972 worked on the Jubilee and Northern lines before the Bakerloo, where they are now serving.
@@Great_WesternTVFan calm down toddler
You idiot it's the 1972 stock because it's much slower and it has that big spot on the face. The piccadilly line operates the 1973 stock
These trains will be staying on the line for a while as the ntfl trains are going on the Picc only and with no ATO.
@@Great_WesternTVFan Yeah then the Victoria and SS lines will get new trains in the 60s -70s unless TFL decide to replace every stock with a single stock for all lines
@@Great_WesternTVFan The Bakerloo line will get the new trains but will not be ATO
@@Great_WesternTVFan They will be manual with the option to go ATO later. Also unlike the Piccadilly line, ATO will not make the Bakerloo faster as the tunnels are small and faster trains would crash. Also the Bakerloo line will only get up to 27 trains per hour so it will still have less trains then all other lines other than the drain.
@@Great_WesternTVFan Also fully driver less trains will never happen. The unions will block it so the Bakerloo and the other 2 lines will be like the Victoria and jubilee lines
@@Great_WesternTVFan There will still be staff on board as the unions have blocked staff less trains. At most the 2 lines will be like the current ATO lines and will go no further. Also even with the new trains the lines will not be as frequent as the Vic line
Ye train question sign? Both side 2nd face both hands hearth shape0
These are grandfather clocks on rails
And they still run much better than the 2009, S stock and 1992 shite
Yep. Rubbish grandfather clocks
I think the Bakerloo line is the only tube line in London that have no new trains yet.
The Bakerloo and Piccadilly have the oldest trains and the ones on the Central/W&C are from 1992, but they're due to be replaced in about 10 years time. I wish it could be sooner as the Central line in this heat is the sauna of London. Why pay to have a sauna when you can just ride the Central line?
ThePenguinMaster198 -no the 1972 ones are the oldest-
Lubdhak Das No I meant that the Bakerloo are the oldest, but the Piccadilly and Central/W&C trains are also old enough for replacement
stephthestar90 -but trains in the 1990s are not that old lol 😂😂. Now shut up. The 1972 stock is the worst stock in the world-
Lubdhak Das ok, I won't say any more 😁 The 1972 and 73 stocks have had their day IMO. They were probably good when they were new but it's time for new ones, hopefully with air conditioning!
Does Bakerloo line need the S8 stock? Like if you agree :)
The 1972 stock is way better than that crap
Ever heard of opinions
Also the S8/S7 stock can't fit in the tunnels
@@Great_WesternTVFan shut up
@TheRenaissanceman65 I don't get that. Who though about the S stock coming to the Bakerloo line?
1:52 The 72 stock is entering the station quite fast, I'm surprised!!!
@Jonah Kemp no 2025
That's the Waterloo line
No the station is called waterloo, not the line. The line is called the bakerloo line.
+Kai Attree he/she knows that already reason why he/she went to waterloo station and train name
Its the Bakerloo line don't think your dumb we all make mistakes
+Sammy Tlili shut the FUCK UP
+Wandy Castillo ....
This doesnt look like a old Bakerloo line tube to me
щк црфе
Filthiest seats on any line
Yeah!
Jonah Kemp no they don't you idiot shit. That awards to the bakerloo line. where are your parents?!
Because that does not work. Now shut up or I will scream fucker poo poo
Wtf is wrong with you
Nothing you shitter poo poo.
horrible
Ikr. Horrible trains
no
No
@@Great_WesternTVFan Feck off
Yeah the 1992 is