The Unfortunate Truth of Minecraft's #1 Texture Pack
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2021
- The Minecraft Texture / Resource Pack known as "Faithful" was stolen from Vattic, it's original owner, and resold onto the Minecraft Marketplace without Vattic's permission... for 3 years.
AntVenom Links
» beacons.ai/AntVenom
Vattic's Twitter
» / vattic
== RESOURCE PACKS ==
FaithfulVenom Resource Pack
» antvenom.com/files
Compliance Resource Pack
» faithfulpack.net
Emulated Vattic Resource Pack
» github.com/classicfaithful
Mullak99's Faithful Resource Pack
» www.curseforge.com/minecraft/...
== SPECIAL THANKS ==
» Evorp
» FHLX
» Harag0n
» JogurciQ
» Juknum
» mullak99
» Ninventoo
» PeJohn
» Pomi
» Robert
» Sei
» Vattic
Co-Writer
» Furx
MUSIC
» Epidemic Sound
(Tracker, Decision Through Vision, Rethinker, Awaken the Immortals, No Stone Unturned, Soaring) - Hry
Thank you for making this video and getting the word out! Also many thanks to the community
WE LOVE YOU VATTIC
its him :o
Your the best vattic
im amazed i was first like and comment
Congrats man
Wow, this was some insane Minecraft journalism. Never would have thought the texture pack was technically stolen. Kind of scary how easy it was for those logs to be faked and accepted. 10/10 video
Wow got 1st reply
i am second
is that good
Yeah fr tho
@@neetubansal9789 10
I also never thought about it.
As somebody who has used Faithful for so many years now, I am really saddened to hear about all of this. But on a brighter note, I'm happy to use the Compliance pack since it's gotten Vattic's approval.
Yeetus
I use compliance since i bought java and didn't even know it was related to faithful lmao
Compliance even has a Bedrock port and it's completely free unlike Faithful
Same
didn’t expect to see you here, Daniel T.
Ladies and Gents: FHLX here. I just wanted to say that as of 12/29/2021, the Emulated Vattic team has completed a renaming process to be now referred to as the Classic Faithful Team. All logos, repositories, listings, and packs have been re-named to Classic Faithful. This will be our new name moving forward and should be much more recognizable than our previous name. Thanks everyone that sees this.
Ayyy, Congrats!
congrats ! glad to know what to actually support now
epic
hello fhlx :)
nice
I knew a moderator on faithful and he told me he was always suspicious of Vizzy. He never gave proof that he had permission to update the pack and I'm very happy that he got caught. I hope legal action is taken against him for these last couple years.
Defo no legal action, even though it’s stupid I don’t think it should ruin his life
@@Deltaexe190 He literally stole intellectual propriety.
@@GumSkyloard it’s a Minecraft texture pack. It’s mean but it’s not worth ruining his life
@@nuclearknight5276 this comment is slightly unclear
@@omegamad Or your vision is slightly unclear.
Vizzy: Oh, I thought you were dead.
Vattic: My death was... greatly exaggerated.
So, you’re the punk I’ve heard about!
@Naisan Sama /Breaker LOOOL
@Naisan Sama /Breaker 💀
@Naisan Sama /Breaker WOT!!🤣🤣🤣
@Naisan Sama /Breaker metroman rips a fat one
I never knew that there could be much story behind a texture pack. Things like this really makes you want to think what’s really going on behind the scenes of other things.
There's a story to everything, however people usually don't look or care for it
"Welcome to the internet"
-Bo Burnham
The world is much more interesting than people sometimes think. You'll find a lot if you don't judge things too fast.
its all about money bruh
@@sparkyphantom92 Greed man. It’s all about the greed.
Never knew my favorite pack has this much history to it.
Time to well, face the truth
Same, cat.
11:00 I really appreciate you highlighting the names of these founders. Villains don't deserve infamy, but heroes deserve fame!
im one of them :)
@@GreatName707 Prove it, rigourously
@@GreatName707 that is not rigorous, nor does it prove anything for your case
@@GreatName707 Attention seeker
@@GreatName707 i'll reroute the subject here, but my point is that you should not get mindlessly overhyped and feel the need to seek attention by openly declaring that you were mentioned in a video. put simply, it's not needed and people will put now unnecessary skepticism on you, and will tell you to prove it.
anyways, have a good day
*Note:* xMrVizzy has changed his name to Kraineff! So if you don't want to further support Vizzy, don't support Kraineff!
I believe it's his surname but with V replaced by FF
Ant says this in right in the beginning of the video but thanks for telling us again either way
yeah he changed it as we were making the video which just made it a pain
@@BlackDragonDCR Ant mainly calls him Vizzy as that's what he has gone by for years, but now his Vizzy username is gone from every Faithful related site/post he has and officially changed to Kraineff or his real name.
@@3vorp you guys still did a great job on reaching out to the truth, very well done
I was wondering why "Faithful" hadn't been updated in a while and now I suspect it's a direct result of everything hitting the fan. The process of looking at their issue tracker led me to Vattic's post and this video. I had no idea any of this was going on... thank you for enlightening me!
Vattic: "This is my texture pack"
Vizzy: *"OUR texture pack"*
Vattic: *"N O"*
Vattic (four years later): *"N O"*
As a wise robot once said, death is preferable alternative to communism.
@@user-qk4nt5is8m This has nothing to do with communism... Russia is defined as a "Federal semi-presidential constitutional republic."
@@error.418 Well, firstly, you must be real fun parties. Secondly, if you want to go the route of Ackchyually, then I should point out that the joke in the SeriousNorbo's comment was made on my/our meme template, which originally features USSR flag and thus associated with communism. And thirdly, the definition of Russia's current political system (good job copying it from Wikipedia btw) has indeed nothing to do with the joke, the only reason it's connected with the situation in any way, is their shitty copyright laws, which allow things like the one in the video and the other with scp foundation to happen.
@@user-qk4nt5is8m and suffering might i add.
when vizzy said "no democracy" and basically went on a power trip, I instantly got vibes of wheatley from portal 2
At least Wheatley was genuinely sorry when he was stripped of his power.
@@silverboltscrapper yep
Lol
People: *Democracy*
Vizzy: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO DEMOCRACY! ONLY ME! ONLY VIZZY! BANS FOR ALL! "MY" WORK WILL LIVE ON! I OWN THIS PACK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I bet he was Stalin all along because he is Russian.
Damn, I knew something was off when I first saw faithful on the minecraft store. Vattic was not mentioned even once but I was under the impression that he gave permission to these guys to continue the project. Turns out that one person claimed ownership without the permission from Vaticc and even made money from it. I appreciate him trying to continue Faithful but trying to take it as his own, proffiting and even lying about it is downright shameful. I will no longer support his, but will look for alternative Faithful packs instead.
Huge props to Antvenom and the team in making this expose possible.
I saw it for sale before I had access to the greater web and thought "Well that's the world famous texture pack! (cause I still had some web access) Must be worth the price."
I didn't buy it because I don't spend money on the internet but I sure would've
thanks
@@xYOSIYAx And to think microsoft didn't even need the word from the original creator of a lot of those textures to allow this to happen. They're partially to blame too, to be honest.
depixel is a great alternative
yeyeye good practice now tell the teacher just like that
I personally prefer the default textures over Faithful, but I never expected this.
Default textures are better than any texture pack
@@crazysanta6641 Default Look/Programmer Art gang
Default’s pretty cool in itself, and if Programmer Art was updated to this day it would be pretty pog.
Quandary back in the day was great, and Jicklus now is pretty good.
@@crazysanta6641 og textures are, not the current ones
Had to revisit this video while looking for a copy of Faithful to try out since I could remember that the pack had been stolen, but couldn't remember any more details than that. It's nice to have access to a resource like this at times.
Thanks for this great video! It's good when more people learn what's going on with Faithful
That's why you stopped making videos about faithful right
@@varunagrawal7036 probably
@@varunagrawal7036 YuS
Let's not talk about the ideas and mechanics from free mods Notch stole without permission or crediting the original authors and then selling them as apart of the game.
@@elroy462 yes exactly let's not. This topic is essentially pointless, genuinely nobody cares except maybe you.
Hopefully legal action is taken and he can acquire the rights to sell his own texture pack on the marketplace.
What rights, The Vizzy never had them to begin with so theres nothing to aquire
He should also get the regain HIS profits from the pack !
That dude stole so much money unfaithfully
I don't think he wants it sold on the marketplace tbh, seems like the guy has had a tough personal life and just needs a break but doesn't want his work stolen for another person's profits.
i think if the pack is free on one platform it should be free on the other
quite honestly id buy it out of courtesy and respect
Faithful is always my go-to texture pack for Minecraft. Everything looks clean and the builds still look good to people using default... Not to mention I don't have to keep going "Oh yeah that is THIS block" xD great video!
Hi, recently Microsoft released a recreation of the Ather mod on the Marketplace without Gilded Games knowing. Could you do a video about this topic?
Hope he does make a vid on the subject.
Srsly though Microsoft = gae
2 comment but 1 reply
@@xanderplayz3446 youtube bugged lel
I just realized this isn't just on Vizzy either, it's on the people running the Minecraft store, how the hell did they accept the *fake* faithful pack without even properly checking the intellectual rights? Disgusting lack of effort.
You will find a lot of texture packs on there are stolen
More likely they don't bother to. It's malicious compliance to pack the store with packs ASAP
anything for money.
It’s just like how we don’t read the terms and service and just press accept
It's like NFTs and how a lot of them are stolen art XD
As someone who's hobby is in a creative field, I can confirm that *proper crediting and ownership is EVERYTHING* to someone who works in said creative fields. It's the lifeblood that draws in more people who might want to work with you, and spread your name further in a good light. Don't try and take credit and sell something you don't own, people. Because whether you like it or not, a DMCA or a legal lawsuit aimed right at you might just be how it ends.
Some people take advantage of this though. Some sue people for playing two notes in their own original music, claiming that that note progression is their intellectual property.
In summary, just dont be an asshole and respect the intellectual properties of others. And dont be unreasonable trying to claim absolutely every little thing that might just be due to coincidence
If anyone would ask me for resource packs or skins, I would flood his chat of sources and informations. Maybe it's excessive, but I think it's better than not crediting. Because I know the sufference of getting your credits stolen and I don't want anyone to feel it.
You know for all your talk about proper crediting and ownership you're missing an important realization. Faithful doesn't have intellectual property rights. It's just a resolution change of Mojang's default texture pack. There is no way it's different enough to even warrant a claim of ownership.
You can't claim something as yours just because you touched up the visual qualify. It's still the same texture pack as what Mojang made, just with a slightly different resolution.
The fact that Faithful is just a resolution change of the base game's texture renders this entire video pointless.
I know it’s been a while since this happened, but holy crap, that’s horrible. I hope Vattic and the other affected individuals are doing better now.
I hate how it's always the creatives who get screwed over, the originators who make stuff like this in the first place.
When vattic returned it felt like when the main character disappear’s then returns even stronger with a new power up
Disappears and reappears 12 seasons later to have a speech about his tretcherous journey
@@aranger1 only to find out that their new leader was apparently the villain this whole time
@@rubyrules2 and then everyone died
"when we needed him the most, he appeared"
- from avatar or something idk
cookiezi moment
If I ever had to buy skins or texture packs on the Java Edition, I would commit nether sleep
stolen comment from yourself
B R U H
don’t do it
how to ruin a game 101
true lmao
I love how involved you are in this, I remember playing with faithful so long ago and wondering why I couldn't download an updated version. I had no idea that there was a massive scandal involved!!
Great Video, Beautiful message!!
Moments like this make me so happy, community looking out for other community members, no matter how long the ride has been even now, this truley is amazing to witness
Glad to see this story is finally public. EM and Compliance deserve all the positive attention they can get
Oh look guys its mullak99! we should thank this guy! so thank you
you are a legend
Good job
indeed
You, you were there.... u doin some good stuff dude... Keep it a goin
One of my friends is a moderator for compliance, Fred figglehorn. He's had his artwork stolen by vizzy for over a year now. Feel free to ask questions if you want.
why yes, thus is me. We're actually on the front page of the Download link for the current Compliance Beta.
wait vizzy stole his artwork?
@@ImmortalChanger Everyone who contributed textures to faithful who didn't consent to it being on the bedrock marketplace essentially had their artwork stolen. My friend here is one of them.
@@ImmortalChanger yes, the creeper and a plethora of other things are stolen.
Now I’m starting to think of how bad & deep Vizzy’s thievery goes. All those years, I can only wonder how many others he stole from.
I hope y’all get some form of justice because this is just disgusting.
That message at the beginning can be said to many people on the internet for a lot of situations
I feel like Vizzy continued the project without malintent at first (maybe for a bit of internet fame) but when money got involved things change very quickly :/
About the minecraft marketplace section, it is sadly notoriously known (at least in the modded scene) for often completely enabling people to profit off work or ideas that are not theirs and never done with permission from the original creators of said projects while microsoft, mojang or whoever the team handling the marketplace side are, typically do absolutely nothing about it
This was obvious the moment the Marketplace was announced.
A friend that is doing marketplace textures told me how she takes skins from namemc, merges them together, and sells for thousands of dollars without stress.
Without going into much detail, the marketplace degenerated severely as more and more "profit before ethics" teams popped on.
Edit: Wanted to mention that Mojang does care about this but they are powerless since this is a community wide trend
@@StefanDeleanu The multi-billion dollar corporation is powerless to control what goes on their digital store front? With all due respect, that's ridiculous. It's more than possible for them to more strictly scrutinize what goes on the Marketplace. They just don't care because they get a cut of the profits as well.
@@StefanDeleanu Powerless? All it would take the Marketplace team would be to not greenlight hot garbage onto the store.
@@lancelikessause they can't scan the whole internet for free textures or skins and make sure thst skins or textures are original.
They can ban direct copies, but if you just put a smart filter on top of it most times it will be enough to trick that.
Also, the huge amount of content pushed on the market in regards to textures is difficult to deal with.
I feel they can do way more than they do right now, but it's best to look for solutions, not blame.
I'm gonna be honest with you: I always thought of you as an "average content creator" who makes content for a young audience. When I actually watched your videos though, I started to appreciate them, but I still never thought of them as singular. This video really changes my mind about you. Well worded, documented and extremely reasonable while talking about a topic you definitely have an opinion about. Excellent video!
What I like about AntVenom, is that he treats his audience with respect.
@@copper9687 and good editing
Antvenom is always the vsauce of minecraft
@@jirehemanuel"Or is he?"
@@copper9687 Vsauce Music Intensifies
ive been using this texture pack on bedrock since 2016, i justgot hooked into it because of simplistic of the texture, doubing the resolution, but not changing the textures base design itself(note that im not into higher res packs than 16x), but i didnt knew there was a backstory hiding behind this masterpiece.
Anyways, Vattic, keep doing this epic piece, Ily.
You still using it?
"Out of options and desperate for some sort of resolution, they knew what they had to do."
I love this video.
nick robinson typa sh
Ugh, Vizzy being Russian explains a lot. Trademarks are granted on first claiming in Russia, even if there's proof someone else made the IP. If he's filed a trademark there is an extremely long and one sided legal battle ahead. SCP Russia is currently going through the same thing. Markiplier made a good summary video on this event as well.
Trademarks are not generally international, they are country specific (there are international variations of the process, but those also would not be impacted by Russian specific issues).
exactly this reminded me of that situation they should improve russia's legal laws like damn this should not be possible
Trademarks/Registration is almost First2Buy everywhere, atleast that's what I've been warned about
I am from Russia and you are absolutely right
@@Mark-Wilson copyright is definitely one of the least important issues in the russian legal system xD
Wow, great work! That was very thorough. The whole situation is much clearer now, thanks for making an explanation for it.
I was working on keeping Faithful 32x up to date with modern Bedrock versions (I mostly worked on missing UI textures), back before it had to be taken down in early 2019. I was sharing it on MCPEDL so other players could use it also, and the team at MCPEDL let me know that xMrVizzy required all Faithful packs had to be taken down, because of the new copyright. It's a shame that's what happened, but I am relieved that the right things are happening now! 😎
bro I got ur 32k pack on MCpedl! It’s rlly cool
Ur cool
@zulfahmi. very similar doesnt mean equal
@zulfahmi. because it's just another 32x pack which tries to keep vanilla minecraft's look, that doesn't make it faithful itself
sick
I remember when faithful started, as it was around the time I started playing Minecraft. Was one of my favorite packs. Thanks Vattic for your great texture pack! Glad to see your back on the scene. Can't wait to see what's in store for your future and your pack!
I adored this texture pack! I used it even more than the default textures!
HARAG0N here, manager of Compliance for 64x resolution. This video is very important for me and thank you for what you did AntVenom.
For anyone who likes 64x resolution here, Compliance 64x is for you.
Love
Haragon !!!!!
HELLO THERE LEGEND
wow you actually commented. have a nice day big guy
HARAGON
kinda wish you had a 1.12.2 version so i could try it as my pc doesn't like 90% of the newer versions of minecraft
this is such a great video ant, i’m proud to have been a fan of the channel for years. sending tons of support to vattic!
I remember that Texture pack from a Minecraft Knockoff game and some OG Minecraft youtube videos
7:20 Just when the people need him the most, _he returned._
Lol
Dude falls on hardtimes, and goes homeless. So what does homie do? Take his work and sell it! What a true friend
Who said anything about homeless?
It didn't say it in the video
Do you know something i don't?
@@miltoska9708
8:20
"homie", more like russian. i doubt they r homies to anyone
@@mosye they only become friends when they get locked in a bunker and share a vodka together. If they don't eat eachother by the time the bunker is opened up then they're friends for life!
@@mosye don't use this as an excuse to be racist against russians
The thing about Russian copyright/trademark is it isn’t apart of the global market, that’s why there is a Starbucks chain not owned by Starbucks in Russia and why someone put a request for a Copyright on all SCP related stories/images
yes but Minecraft and the MC store are not in Russia so copyright rules still apply.
@@abj136 yes, but also not really, you can't tell for sure. Many places actually acknowledge Russian trademark registration as legitimate without any doubt, it's only Russians who actually know how badly the system is broken here will question it. Google, for example, will happily follow a takedown request based on trademark infringement, they won't check if it was legitimate or not: was approved in Russia? Must be legit. This was abused so many times already. So if Microsoft does acknowledge Russian trademarks and such, welp, here's your answer to how fake Faithful got to the Store.
ok one question how would someone in russia wanna copyright all scp images when one of the images are already copyrighted by someone else (I'm talking about the first scp created)
@@doctorwars2 easy: to earn money off the popular brand. Literally the same thing as in the video.
@@doctorwars2 the dude that did this basically copyrighted the SCP as a brand in general and basically has complete control over how it gets used in Russia. I have a friend who has a relatively big russian SCP channel and he is mad pissed about it, even tried reasoning with him in dms but nope
In my Minecraft days as a kid I’ve always been a very big fan of the faithful texture pack. I’m saddened to hear about the hard history of the pack but it’s really nice to see all these great artists care so much about this. I barely play Minecraft anymore, I’ve moved on to other games but I’m very proud to see the kindness of this community ❤️
Excellent informative video, I have been using Faithful since I found it, to me is the look of Minecraft, I do like the greener greens instead of the grey greens, I kinda like vibrant colours in the game. I am glad Vattic is back and his life is better it would have been a great loss for Minecraft not coming back.
I used to use Faithful all the time, but after seeing Toycat's video and doing a small amount of research on my own, I stopped using it entirely. I am very happy that this story has a happy ending now.
are you using Compliance now?
Aren't you the guy from that build comments video by grian
Side stories like this that have years of background always get me thinking about what other stories are out there that have yet to be told. There's gotta be a bunch of good ones out there that someone has yet to come out with for one reason or another. If just Minecraft, one game, can have so many community backstories imagine everything were missing out on.
Like minecraft servers where kids have paid for ranks etc in game items then owners take their money and run off closing the server
@lt_tappy Yeah I can't manage to think of all the untold stories not just in minecraft but beyond it
This is what I love about history. It's not just about names and dates, but people's stories.
@@TooRiskyHD bro I will never forget a payed truMU twice back in the day on PayPal for a rank on his server I played it all the time lol. I never got what I paid for and could never figure it out
@@SlabbyMess yeh it’s annoying man tbh it was kinda weird as most server owners was like 20+ and they’d scam kids I respect the hustle but it’s just sly
11:46 My poor boy Nick Robinson really thought you were booking a flight to Tokyo in search of answers.
I think CompliANT should be a spinoff of standard FaithfulVenom
I remember using Faithful like 7+ years ago and it was great. I didn’t realize how crazy of a story this pack had once you dig deeper. Fantastic video Ant!
first reply
@@marlenenaanes4382 Lol
Speaking for the Russian community, I am so sorry this hideous incident happened. I am utterly disappointed that our community is portrayed in such a terrible light ... again.
I fully support Vattic and the people who contributed to this journey. I hope the action will be taken and Vizzy will get what he deserves!
Agreed. I am sad to say this isn't the first time outliers in the Russian community have done this. Mostly the SCP vs SCP Russia dispute comes to mind.
As an American, we have had our fair share of Intellectual thief, but sadly the Russians get a bad rap, because of how the legal framework in Russia actually works in reality
I wish you well comrade, and wish you good luck.
Согласен!
As a member of Russian community, I've got a theory... Nobody does something just to be bad, every time - there is a reason. Russia as a country is awful, from economy side and life here in general. If you're not living in Moscow or other big central city, you're destined to work slave hours and get paid lowest amount possible. And the worst is that it's very hard to get off that loop. It's hard to get a life if you're in this situation.
I am myself in that loop right now and pesperately trying to fand a way to leave this place.
So it might be something that is going on with them too and they decided to go that way, but I can't tell if it's true or not, it's just something that came into my mind. And I also can't stay silent about the problem itself.
Anyways, have a great day, ya'll.
@@Night_Stary I'm not Russian myself, but, is it true that the legal system (as in, copy rights and stuff) in Russia works in "odd ways"? I've heard about it so many times, and I've always been curious.
@@GumSkyloard Well, I don't know about copy rights topic in our country a lot. Nobody talks about it. Can you tell me what exactly you've heard? Because maybe I don't understand yet.
But I know that we have the most blocked resourses on Internet. I remember one time when they accidentally blocked CZcams instead of Telegram XDDD
It's still so many player using that pack that's the first ever pack in mcpe and java
Wow I had no idea....I’m gonna download compliance and use that instead...I’m just shocked to hear the way things went down and how badly those involved were treated by one individual...
Stealing from a homeless guy to sell his stuff for a quick buck is one of the most depressing things I've heard in a while. Makes that insanely high price even more scummy.
And it's not like these things ever make a ton of money, but it could be the difference between _having food_ or not.
OOOF i wanna like but you are currently at a nice 111 likes. here, take this instead 👍🏽
Sounds like Capitalism, steal from the poor to make the rich richer, and it being taken by a Russian of all people from a British man adds to the irony.
Miss the age of Mojang where they were strict on people not being allowed to sell game aspects such as textures/mods or in-game items.
What the hell, Vizzy?
@@somebodykares1 No, human greed. It has nothing to do with fairytales, like communism or capitalism.
@@fosterrico5546 capitalism creates greed 🤑
I hope this video will help to spread awareness about this whole situation. I am one of the founders of Compliance and previously was a Faithful contributor for many years until Vizzy lost his mind. Can't wait for the future of Faithful. I'm so thankful I'm on the good side of this story.
Reminder that xMrVizzy did absolutely nothing wrong.
@@elroy462 faking a conversation and crediting himself for someone else's copyrighted work.
@@ltsMeNoodle Do not under any circumstance talk about all of the ideas and mechanics from free mods Notch stole without permission or crediting the original authors and then selling them as apart of the game.
@@elroy462 I've never said he hasn't. Both cases are pretty much illegal here (although I don't know about Notch's one), so don't assume they're both right.
@@elroy462 ooooh okay, I see now 😂 when I seen a reply of yours the first time I thought you were just some misguided sole trying to make some point, but now I see after a few of your replies you're just a very good rider or a troll.
Being someone who has personally witnessed similar events in other communities, I hope things go well Vattic! And that the new packs succeed! (And perhaps for the other guy to end up actually making his own texture pack instead of theft like this).
great video it explains to me what happened during these years with this texture pack. but i want to ask a question what shaders did you use for this video
sildurs simple lite
i was in the faithful discord when this stuff happened with mrvizzy coming back and kicking people out a year ago and i proceeded to download compliance’s packs, join their discords, and vote on some of their textures, however after getting more into the minecraft speedrunning community, where texture packs have rules and faithful is a gray area (not to mention optimal game performance is key and increasing texture resolution is not good for this), i sort of lost track of it all. i’m in the compliance discord still but have never checked it. i knew vizzy was a bad person from his response to the “democratic” work on the pack but had no idea that he blatantly stole it. wow. this does just make me even more impressed with what compliance did though, rebuilding the pack over time from the ground up for every single texture in minecraft. thank you for covering this from someone who used to be a massive texture pack nerd and still sometimes dabbles in them. i’m really glad to see an update on this situation as well as a happy ending and i will definitely update my resource packs for when i play minecraft more casually
Thanks Dream, Ik you arent used to controversy.
Yeah. Faithful being stolen came as a surprise for even us when we got Vattic back in the heat of things. (FHLX here btw)
It’s interesting. Everyone always says “It’s not worth it” or “Don’t bother”. But for an event of this scale, all I can really say is, “How can one know it’s not worth it? Has someone tried?”
Facts
(youtube comunity guidelines)
@@Junniebug Sadly this is true. But CZcams has their reasons but personally I only hope Vizzy at least has to refund everyone their money and compensate the original creator for damages.
Yes, many people have tried to take revenge on people in similar situations and it's never worth it.
@@supernukey419 it is always funny
Minecraft’s faithful texture pack has always been one of my favorites. I play on console and it’s one of the better looking packs you can get in the marketplace. My first used to be the classic texture pack which is the equivalent to programmer art in Java edition. but they haven’t updated the textures to the new items and blocks so I don’t use it much anymore
I didn’t even realize I was watching AntVenom until he said his channel name 😂
The recommendation rabbit hole is REAL
Mullak is bae, Mullak is life. Thank you Antvenom for all of the information and hard work you’ve put into this video and the faithful packs!
Hey Ant, I’m from the Compliance team and I want to say thank you for supporting us and EM through all of this. You’re the man!
Ok! this package is now yours.
Congratulations! Please keep up the amazing work
Antvenom, can you make a video about how SNDBX Mod Team stole the Aether Mod, re-created it with stolen assets, and their own custom made assets, as well as assets from other mods like Twilight Forest (Slider and its Dungeon is literally just retextured Naga from Twilight Forest) and uploaded it to the Minecraft Market over on Bedrock Edition without permission from Kingbdogz, or the Aether Team? They literally stole from one of the Mojang Developers (Kingbdogz) and he is not happy about it at all. The entire Aether Mod team is pissed about this, as well as community members who played the OG Aether.
I don't get it, isn't it kinda vattic's fault for not developing it further and vizzy being on the gray area for continuing it. For community I would say it's clear win for someone to continue the pack. Of course the "selling it on bedrock" part is scummy but so is the whole store. I feel like this is way over-dramatized.
Compounded legally, I heavily doubt Vattic will have any rights to it as he likely left it in the public domain
completely agree, did he act like a prick? sure... Should his life be ruined by lawsuits? No.
The vattic guy made a texture pack and allowed people to edit and upload said edited version for people to use, he then disappeared for almost a decade (whilst he was gone the russian guy continued the pack for years) probably scared the russian guy because he had 0 idea if vattic was even alive. He was literally doing a service to vattic until they put it on the marketplace lol
Vizzy: "Yes, I can finally make money off something stolen!!"
Vattic: "Allow me to introduce myself."
"Allow me to RE-introduce myself."
They abandoned faithful so idgaf, steal it
Well, it's still not been purged off marketplace, which is surprising. Stolen pack even has 4+ stars reviews.
I'm surprised at least DMCA was not issued.
@@etopowertwon Umm. . . FHLX here, it was. It's a legal process. It'll take a while.
@@LayJD_ it takes 20 minutes to find "report copyright infringement" for Minecraft marketplace. It takes nothing to do with legal actions that can be done in parallel. So... Was the complaint filed and Microsoft/mohjang response varied from none to "we want legal papers from the court pl0x" or лох это судьба and complaint was not filed at all? Because if it the latter then it is hilarious.
I was never aware of such a narrative that existed just because of a texture pack! If I end up using a texture pack, I'll make sure to steer clear of Faithful for now and use Compliance or Emulated Vattic instead. Thanks for the fantastic video and phenomenal story-telling.
i would for sure continue a texture pack if i really liked it and it was no longer updated but i would never sell it or claim it as only mine, it feels wrong
Wow, I remember this all happening years ago. Totally forgot about it.
Always love seeing the Peaceful Map featured in newer videos
Never thought a resource pack would have a story worthy of a Hollywood film. Or that that pack would be the beloved Faithful. Insane. Great work Ant!
But tbh, if you replaced a texture pack with something more valuale and colorized facts a lot, the film would be great.
so basically vizzy overthrew the original faithful government. and then later vattic and the original team retook control.
@@IgorMgtowandVideoGames Basically. He literally assumed control, when he very much did not have it. And of course he lied about it as well.
@@JoePCool14 how was life under vizzy rule?
how did vattic remove vizzy?
are people still loyal to vizzyism?
revisiting this video is weird. As an original user of the "Faithful" texture, I hope that the proper legal action was taken. I had made a reply here a year ago, but that was on an old account. Still glad Vattic is around
It’s been so many years watching your videos and my brain still says the same thing every video… thank god for his mother or this beautiful man wouldn’t exist!
11:48 why was i half expecting him to say “they booked a flight to Japan”? Maybe i’ve been watching to much Nick Robinson.
lmao i laughed my ass off when he said that, hes made a few comments on nicks channel SO I KNOW IT WAS A REFERENCE IT CANT BE A COINCIDENCE
Hey. As a primary contributor to Emulated Vattic Textures 32x32 (EM32D), I am happy to see that you covered this controversy. It means a lot to me and I'm sure it means a lot to everyone involved at EM and Compliance. So I just wanted to say,...
Thank you.
Mixel man
can confirm he is the guy who made the wool and a bunch of other stuff for FV
Please keep up the great work!!!
I have one minor problem now with texture packs: I now am way too used to default (Programmer Art) and prefer it (currently though I am using Fresh Animations, some outdated packs, and some other minor feature/texture changing packs).
But Vattic's Faithful was my go to up until 1.9 when I switched back to default (idk, can't get used to the 1.14 new textures). As much as I see Programmer Art Classic Faithful, I don't think it's a switch I will make sadly.
crazy, i love these documentary type minecraft videos
damn, never knew there could be drama even in the minecraft resourcepack artist community...
I had a gut feeling that Faithful wasn't meant to be on the marketplace...
i knew from the get go. i've read the original forum post and i remember ibxtoycats video and said in the comment section that there's no way this is the real Faithful 32x32 pack.
@@ZIGAG1999 ya the marketplace is a closed system basically you have to apply as a company to get in or be partnered under a already existing company and get hired by one of them
mojang says it's a "community based thing" but this is not community there literally companies since that's the only way to go on there
@@ZIGAG1999 i love pirating things so there aren't anyway I'm gonna be buying stuff from that trash bedrock Microsoft store
This all makes me glad that I've got the official resource pack for my server announced publicly as a Customized iteration of Wolfhound by Thistlepack, and I'm pretty sure i also actually added a link for the customizer too XD
Amazing video on the history of the pack its crazy to think that all this was going on behind the scenes
This video is important not just to those involved with Faithful, but to all Minecraft texture artists. Hell, I would even say it goes further than that--that it is important to all Minecraft content creators and those creators outside of Minecraft as well.
The moment you say “move the resource pack to bedrock” and I immediately know it’s the marketplace and I thought “oh, no, so that’s why it is.”
I still see that faithful texture pack in my Minecraft map downloader and stuff.
When i was a kid i used that texture pack as default, i did not download it nor set it, i just used a non official minecraft launcher and i happened to have that texture pack on for some reason, or maybe once i decided to play with the options and i found out that i had an already downloaded texture pack and decided to use it
Even if this story is kinda sad, I'm very happy because I finally have an answer to a question that I had almost 6 years ago when 1.9 released: where's the Faithful texture pack? If it wasn't for this video I would still have absolutely no idea. Thank you for covering this Venom
Also Vizzy messed up the last message because "пак" in russian that meant to sound like "pack" got messed up by Google translate so it became "пакет" or "packet"/"package"
Ouch.
Now this package is yours!
Man seeing your original survival world brings back a lot of memories
never used faithful since i haven't played java in a while and honestly had no clue why it cost money just to have it on bedrock so i just started using rtx packs instead which i absolutely love
Man... Back in 2018-2020 I worked on my own Faithful 32 texture pack because all the other ones I could find were either outdated or not using Jappa's new textures
Unfortunaly, people are going after Vizzy. Even after you made this video, as we speak, we got some "retribution seekers".
Again, do NOT go after him. It's a waste of your time, and he's not worth it.
That's unfortunately unavoidable. The best I can do is set a good example from the very beginning. Telling the story really isn't possible without that happening.
@@AntVenom Indeed. And I'm grateful for that.
I just thought I'd also have to tell people not to go after Vizzy. Vengeance is a terrible thing.
I mean, honestly, who cares? He has chosen this path HIMSELF years ago, whatever trouble comes his way due to his OWN misdeeds is entirely his problem. I hope others get the praise they absolutely deserve, the most important thing is to eraise any bit of vizzie's existence from minectaft so that he would never be remembered. And he should get his ass sued, obviously
@@AntVenom Its all or nothing, so lets lynch vizzy.
Линчевать Виззи!
@@djpupsik98 what is wrong with you
Great video as always AndVenom! Have you seen also the other similar case regarding the Aether mod? It got uploaded on the Marketplace without our (Gilded Games team, who develops the Aether projects) consent. From one side is a terrible and offensive thing for us, but in the other side is kinda funny since the original creator of the Aether mod, who is still involved in the project, is now a Minecraft developer!
Aether is so great, i feel like it should have been put into Minecraft. Although it might not best suit what Minecraft is to Mojang and all that.
@@AOGPlays I feel guilded games would still do a better job. They just have that to worry about not a whole game.
It was kind of funny how you said "The story would take a turn for the worst..." followed immediately by the text "The Minecraft Marketplace", lol
I remember watching youtubers using the Faithful texture pack back in the day and thought it was really cool. I didn't know it was stolen after 1.8 (I didn't even know it was available for 1.9 forwards lol), but it is nice to see it's in better hands now :)
I never used Faithful but I'm glad that Vattic got his stuff back
Ngl for ages I forgot the name to this texture pack but man.... This texture pack gives me memories of simpler times
Is there a follow up of this? I'd like to know if Vattic ever got his work back