Can You Use Stock Shocks With Lowering Springs?
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Here's what you need to know about mixing stock shocks and lowering springs.
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Stock VS. Lowering Springs
2:40 Spring / Shock Interaction
3:30 Stock VS. Aftermarket Shocks - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Your face said "NO" so hard in the intro. 😂Didn't even had to watch the video no for the answer.
Best breakdown on CZcams. Appreciate it!
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Great video thank you, 👍🏾 I’m going to lower my Challenger and I was curious about this .
Excellent information!
great video, very well explained.thanks for posting
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That was informative and concise 👍 -great video
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🔥🔥🔥🔥video! Glad you posted you def need more subs
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Awesome information
This video could not have been done any better...WELL DONE !!!!!
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Great video, and great advice, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Great explanation, well done!
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I installed Steeda progressive rate lowering springs on my 18 Mustang GT and kept the factory dampers the car handled awfully. Definitely did the pogo stick thing, I wasn’t putting up with that so I installed Steeda dampers to match the springs. What a difference, the car handled great and felt like a sports car. If you can afford it do both springs and shocks at the same time, it’s worth it.
I just installed those same springs on my 2021 GT as well and both front struts made clunking sounds awful had order those steeda struts to match smh
This helped me so much! Subbing now.
Video came in serious clutch, looking for good shocks for my BMR lowering springs in my t/a
If your budget allows, I know a lot of guys love the Koni yellow adjustable shocks for Camaros and Trans Ams. The Str.t shocks we're just more in my price range but so far have worked really well despite not being adjustable.
Thank you for this video everyone talks about lowering springs but no one talks about shocks, what good brands or what kind of shock you need.
Good info
Good info. I was just about to cheap out on shocks.
Right on!
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it is necessary to add thread on the original shock absorber if for example the springs are -30mm it is necessary to filter 2.5cm in addition and the shock absorber will work in its standard
Great video…
Great video. Kind of surprised you don't have more subscribers. I am putting h&r lowering springs on a Grand Cherokee. How do I go about finding the right shock setup to go with it?
Thank you! I'd recommend reaching out to the spring manufacturer first and seeing if maybe they recommend a particular shock to pair with their springs. Otherwise, it's a matter of shopping around, reading reviews and maybe checking some forums for specific recommendations until you find a good option. That's how I ended up going with the Koni shocks in this video . But if the spring manufacturer can save you all the time doing research and point you straight to what they know will work best, that's ideal.
Thank you good sir
Nice video! What shocks would you recommend to go along with Eibach springs? KYB ok? Or Bilstein? I’m leaning to KYB due to pricing… I’m currently running on stock rear shocks and kaifa front shocks with eibach springs.
You have hit the bail right on the head. I have 91 Corolla Gti 16v UK spec 3 door hatch.
I recently fitted a set of Eibach springs, which resulted in about a 30mm drop. This has destroyed the ride and handling of what was quite a good handling car already. So the originals will be going back on soon
I'm not going to lie, there are times I wish I'd held onto my factory springs. I really do like the looks of lowered cars, but roads definitely aren't getting any smoother these days....
@@TheBudgetMindedMotorist I've had the stock springs re-manufactured. this involves re-tempering and shortening them to lower the ride height , whilst retaining the original spring rate. I am about to embark on swapping them over and replacing the shocks at the same time. I will let you know how it goes
You are so, so right A+++
thanks,
thanks for the video.
Im just putting lowering springs on the back wheels. could I just put some koni shocks in the back?
Thanks
Good thing i ordered the Racing line shocks with their lowering springs lol
Any shock and lowering spring recommendations for 2015 v6 accord sedan. Just want to lower for daily driving, no aggressive driving
Any lowering springs and shocks recommendation for an 2009 Honda Accord ?!
what if I pair a set of TEIN enduro pro with a set of lowering spring?
I'm about to pair a Tein H-tech lowering spring(drop 1.3") with Truhart Struts(made for lowering spring). On the site it says I can use the Tein H-tech with oem struts but it's probably best to get a strut made for lowering springs.
could they work for the h&r lowering springs ???
On the off chance if the lowering springs in question are made to match with the car. Some brands (I think like eibach) make them to match a specific car's suspension. How much would the alignment of the wheel be effected? Would I be expecting a ton of unwanted negative camber? Or depending on the car would this not be an issue as much? (I own a 2014 camry and considering dropping it 1 to 1.5 inches)
Generally speaking, any change in ride height will have an effect on alignment. I would expect to see additional negative camber after lowering the car, as this has been my experience. If the camber is too negative for your taste, there may be enough room in the factory control arm adjustments to bring things back to spec after the drop. If there isn't enough factory adjustment, sometimes the right "camber kit" can be used to actually decrease the negative camber. I would definitely recommend putting the car on an alignment rack anyway after installing the springs, as toe could change some as well and the technician doing the alignment will be able to let you if any additional adjustment / parts to get the camber where you want it.
Hello My RS-R coilover spring is too low and my car hitting ground on the messy roads, Can i use long springs for my sport amortizator?
I recently upgraded my springs on my 19 cruze. GM performance lowering springs, which are lower than factory. Gm says the springs are interchangeable with factory struts. They don't sell a performance kit with the struts .The springs lowered the car on .10mm which isn't much,but it's still shorter.
Can you use factory springs with lowering shocks? Trying to use the Belltech Street performance lowering shocks before buying springs
can you use Koni sport shocks with OEM springs ?
I have a Chrysler 300 on lowering springs am I feel every bump in the road is it the springs or do I need new shocks
How is megan racing lowering springs? 05 dodge magnum rwd
So you are saying that i can use lowering spring in my charger rt and its safe without messing up anything ..?? Is it sir?.
Hello I can a 2014 silverado 1500 5.3l z71 LT. I did 2in drop spindles 1in lowering springs I have belltech set at 0. When I hit certain bumps the truck bottoms help. Plz hello.
What about drops of 0.8? Can i keep the oem struts?
I have a 2002 Mazda Protege, I am thinking about lowering my car with lowering springs. The Protege like most FWD cars has a strut assembly. I watched your video about not using stock shocks with lowering springs, makes sense. With the lowering springs available for my car I'm going to end up about 1.5-2" lower. The struts that I have found all tend to be OEM style replacement struts. KYB does make a strut that is available but one thing I was curious about was size, do the struts need to be shorter? If that is the case how would you measure that?
I need this question answered . I have 2004 Celica though
I have a 2004 VW GTI and intend to replace the shocks and springs. I already bought, but have not installed the Eighbach Pro Kit springs which are designed to lower the car 30mm. I also bought the Bilstein B6 shocks which are designed to be an OEM replacement shock. When I talked to Eibach, they let me know the Biltein B6 shocks are a good pairing with their Pro Kit shocks. What's your opinion? Am I making a mistake by pairing a spring that lowers the car 30mm and is arguably stiffer than factory springs, with the Bilstein B6 shock intended to replace the OEM shocks? Is there a higher probability of the shocks wearing out prematurely? Is ride quality likely to be degrades and cause the po-going described in the video?
Do you recommend if you put wider tires and it rolls more?
This was really informative
I have a 2013 Dodge Dart with eibach lowering springs and it’s so stiff it’s almost un-drivable it can’t take a bump to save it’s life
Was considering bags just for the smoothness but I live in Canada and that’s a disaster waiting to happen
Do you have any recommendations for shocks and struts
Unfortunately I don't know what's available for the Dart really. I would look for a web forum dedicated to the Dart and ask around to see what people have used and might recommended.
Hey man great video, very informative but I still have a couple questions. I want to lower my 22 Camry se by an inch or two, and Im looking into eibachs. However on the website it said it’s designed to work with the oem shocks. Can I still use just the springs alone? Or do you recommend getting shocks too (if so could you please give me some choices)?
You mention that lowering springs can wear out your shocks faster but how much faster? I don’t plan on making this Camry a handling beast, so if that means I lose a couple thousand miles of lifespan on my oem shocks, I really don’t mind (90k -95k miles with lowering springs vs 100k without the lowering springs). Realistically I drive 2 miles to school on the weekdays and MAYBE 30 miles on some weekends to my girls place.
I’m new to the car modding world but I don’t want to make a stupid decision. I don’t need craazzyyyy performance, I just want my car to look cool lol (that doesn’t mean I want the cheapest and shittiest part, I just don’t need the top of the line racing equipment for my daily driving). Plus I’m in college so my budget ain’t the biggest lol 😅😅. My bad for the long message, just really need some insight.
Thanks for the kind words. It's tough to say because I haven't personally worked with that exact vehicle and springs, but my advice is usually Google search for forum sites related to your vehicle and see if people have tried those springs with stock shocks on a Camry. If the lowered stance is the main motivator and you're not real concerned with ride quality or handling it'd probably work. For how long though? I honestly have no idea. Road conditions like bumps, pot holes, railroad crossings and how you approach them are all going to have a big impact on how long shocks will last.
@@TheBudgetMindedMotorist thanks for the insight. I looked at forums online and I’ve gotten mixed answers. The consensus is that eibach springs are good but some people say “lowering springs make your shocks wear faster” while others say “you’ll be fine, just don’t drive crazy”. Some even say that the TRD Camry has “eibach” springs from the factory. Some just say get coil overs in general (but all the ones I’ve seen are 1k+, which honestly I can’t afford). Personally I’m gonna go to Toyota to find out more info (hopefully I don’t get a generic answer).
I know you said you haven’t really worked with that vehicle or spring, but do you know of some shocks that are affordable and good quality that could go with the eibachs in general? Since i may be buying the two components separately, im not too sure what brand or features to look out for.
@@moyinoluwaajayi2285 sounds like you've done your research. I like my Konis quite a bit but I don't think the have an offering for your car at the moment. If coil overs are out of the question it looks like the options are gamble on the stock shocks and maybe they hold up ok even if the ride might not be that great or just enjoy the car like it is. Nothing wrong with that. To be honest, modifying suspension can be like that sometimes.
What did you end up doing with your car? Jst curious? I have the same car as yours but mine is a 2020, I been on lowering springs for 2 years bout 30k miles and the car still feels amazing.
Very accurate explanation! I am having this problem with my 2020 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T on H&R sports lowering springs. The problem is that Koni doesn’t make shocks for my vehicle. Any recommendations? I appreciate your answers!
To be honest with you I can't really make an informed recommendation for a particular shock, as I just don't have the personal experience lowering that model of vehicle. I bet it does look good though!
That being said, I took a little time to look around and unfortunately there just don't seem to be that many options available for the current generation of the Accord at the moment. Tein offers adjustable shocks which should offer some improvement over stock, but info on them is rather limited as far as reviews and such. They might be worth looking into though. Beyond that, it seems like the only other aftermarket options are coilover kits. Hope this helps!
@@TheBudgetMindedMotorist Thank you for your answer! I looked everywhere and there is nothing available for this car. I will have to go with coil overs.
what happens if i use a sport spring from eibach for example...the sport springs are only used on the rear of my e36...and i bought a 2ndhand coilover shocks...and what will happen if i use the rear setup of sport spring and adjustable shocks only..
I can't say for sure. I'm not familiar with the e36. For answers to something that specific I would look for a forum dedicated to the vehicle platform and post your question. There may be someone who has tried it on the same car and could answer from experience. Generally speaking though , changing the suspension set up in the rear without changing anything up front could in theory drastically change the handling characteristics, but not always for the better.
Do sport shocks make difference in ride height , keeping in mind that they are usualy a bit shorter than the original ones ?
Unless we're talking about a coilover set up or a shock that's part of a strut assembly where the manufacturer has altered the location of the lower spring perch, shocks shouldn't have any effect on ride height.
Ride height is set by the spring's characteristics.
If a sport shock is shorter, it's usually only because it's meant to be paired with lowering springs.
I just did a reverse 2" leveling on my 2003 suburban ( 2 inch drop in rear)can you please tell me what shocks I should use?? I bought some kyb Excel g and the ride seems horrible.. PLEASE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ON WHAT TO GET.
I honestly don't have the experience with the suburban / tahoe platform that I can use to personally recommend one shock over another. My best advice is to spend some time on a forum like www.tahoeyukonforum.com/ and see what other users recommend based off experience. I took a couple minutes to browse the site and saw some posts mentioning Belltech shocks. They might be worth looking into.....
if we use stiff sport springs is there are any effect if we change gas type of shock to be oil type shock absorber? since oil more heavy in rebound
I've had a little experience running both gas and hydraulic shocks on my truck. I did notice the hydraulic shocks were certainly more plush of a ride, however I haven't tried pairing them with stiffer lowering springs.
Exactly the issue I was having but I couldn't explain it lol. But only problem is there is no lowering shock for my lowering springs..
Have you checked out Koni shocks? I've had good luck with them so far.
@@TheBudgetMindedMotorist huh had no idea they made it for the b-body, everyone said bilsteins but It's got that pogo stick feeling and I hate it especially with the potholes in my area.
Oops. Honestly, I'm not sure if they have a B-body shock available. Catching up on comments this morning and my mind is stuck in F -body mode lol.
What's a good shock, im putting on Hurst stage 1 pro springs on 20 Challenger
My suggestion is to first try contacting tech support at Hurst and ask them if they have a recommendation for a shock that would pair well with their springs and go with what they recommend for the best results.
What kind of coilover should I use on my 2014 CLS Mercedes-Benz
Lowkey tein is a good budget coilovers but if u got the money go for bc racing
Perfect means a blown shock will do just right
Enjoyed the vid.
A couple things unaddressed:
1- how much did you lower your transam?
2- it seems replacing a factory spring with only a 1" lowering spring is not going to warrant investment of new shocks or deal with the concerns addressed in video. Therefore, are there not some exceptions with certain perimeters?
All-in-all, great insight to consider from your video content. Thanks again. And thanks for any responses! Happy motoring.
Oh. Ps. Im riding stock Mini Cooper Clubman F54 sport 2018.
Looking at 1" lower springs from potentially either AST ($309) or EIBACH ($224).
Not a ton of options for the Clubman. Still researching options.
Hey, let me know if you get the springs and how they work! Cheers :)
I can't recall if my springs were 1.25in or 1.5in lowering springs , but in my case it wasn't so much the amount of drop as it was the factory damping just didn't play well with the spring rate of the new springs. The car looked great and all, but the ride was was way too bouncy and made the car feel pretty unstable when cornering on anything other than a perfectly smooth road surface.
As far as exceptions go...
I suppose if the spring rate of the lowering spring was close enough the rate of the stock spring and the stock shock doesn't bottom out with the lowering spring, then the stock shocks could work ok.
But I'm honestly not familiar enough with the Mini Cooper to say with any real certainty if that would be the case.
You could always run with the stock shocks for a bit and see if your happy with the ride and handling, then upgrade later on if you want. That's what I did.
My only real regret was the extra work of swapping shocks later, rather than when I already had everything apart while installing the springs.
If you've got any more questions or if there's anything I didn't quite answer, let me know.
@@TheBudgetMindedMotorist awesome! That helps. Thanks for the insight/response.
I'll do some more digging. Would be interesting to know deeper specs on everything. Kinda surprised how generic most of the listings are.
Can I use oem front shocks and rear coilovers will it be okay if I drive like that for a week?
Yes
What I have understood that if you lower the car 1.5 and more you need to change the stock Shocks.
While the amount of drop can have an impact on shock life and performance, the biggest impact is generally going to come from the spring rate in relation to the damping design of the shock. Most lowering springs of any height are going to be stiffer than stock and likely warrant looking into an aftermarket performance shock.
Guess I'm not getting eibach lowering kit😔
feel that rn
I was going that route as well. Wanted to get the eibatch pro lowering kit for my 2020 camry.
If Big John McCarthy pursued cars instead of refereeing
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It only last me for 1 hour, the ride sucks, it makes me nauseous.
You know what? I’m just gonna not hit bumps.
There ya go, Problem solved!
Nice sales pitch.
Lowering springs are cheaper...period.