What Happened to Indiana Jones' Costume?!
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In a "breakout" re-edit of a section of the Indiana Jones 5 Mega Review, Michael discussed the devolution of Indiana Jones' famous outfit from Raiders of the Lost Ark across the four sequels ending with Dial of Destiny, and how the costume has over the years gone horribly off the rails. - Komedie
It would be one thing if they had changed Indys attire to reflect a change in his style as he aged,as one normally does,but they decided to "keep the look the same" and if that is the appearance you are going for,then get it right,or don't do it at all.Great video once again.
Right. The different coloured shirt, _drastically_ different coloured trousers, and the bag having a totally different strap & playing schizophrenic musical chairs on his body...it was atrocious. I thought the no holster with revolver was my biggest issue; but since that was a no-go, them not getting the quintessential look right became the main blunder.
33 years have passed. The guy trashed his clothes several times since than. How the heck is he supposed to get every tiny detail right all the time such as color and fit of his trousers? Come on man.
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They're all like cartoon movies. Serials from yester-year. To me, it makes more sense to keep the outfit the same. Even in my non-cartoonish life, I'm still rocking the same boots, wallet chain, jacket, etc. that I've had for a very long time. If I had a quintessential adventure outfit, you bet it would stay the same. So anytime I need to replace something, I'm getting the same style item. Or you could look at it like Indy isn't OCD or sentimental (but they're definitely kinda sentimental), and doesn't care certain things have changed.
@@Chalor. look. My dad had a blue maintenance outfit that he wore for years. He decided to wear it again in his early 80s thinking it would look cool. It didn't. He looked like a old guy wearing a uniform that was hanging off of him. He no longer filled it out so I didn't look as cool. He stoops over, he's shrunk and his body is basically melting. A lot of what's wrong with the costume is age. His shirt is most likely different because it's 1969 for Pete's sake. The shirt was probably no longer made. The bag being over the jacket is because he got it caught on the tank in crusade and couldn't get his jacket off. So he decided to wear it over the jacket after. All the other details can be explained due to the years. He still looks like indy just old. Give the old fella a break. Lol
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Or he could have a whole closet of the same outfits, like Keaton Batman or 'insert other character opening up their wardrobe to reveal all the same outfits.'
I suppose my messages came across like I was all worked up over the outfit being different, but it's not quite like that. It's just about impossible to convey tone and nuance in text.
But I hear ya man on what you were saying regarding your dad's uniform. It's still awesome Harrison is in the shape they are. I know/have known plenty of guys a good bit younger than them that seem like they're decades older than Ford. My father's the same age as Harrison, has just about the same body as they did 40 years ago, and goes on a walk everyday after getting up. Even when he's in the garage smoking his pipe (filled with Captain Black, not crack lol), he's standing and moving about.
No one can EVER say you lack passion, information, and valuable analysis, when it comes to your videos! This breakdown is second to none
Most people change their style to keep up with the times a little, at least. There's no reason why an educated man like Indiana Jones would not have ditched the 1930s fashions.
Short story - I was outside Bernie Pollack's office (Bernie was Ford's personal designer) when he was prepping for Crystal Skull when who should appear but Peter Botwright (of Wested Leather) all the way from England. Mr. Botwright had come with jackets in hand to show what he had made for the previous films, but Bernie somewhat unceremoniously dismissed him out of hand, telling him he had his own guy to make the jackets.
Mr. Botright was stunned and all I could do was shrug and look sympathetic.
A lot of these decisions come down to the peculiar whims of the costume designer - and they ARE whims without any discernable rhyme or reason.
Add to that the fact that big stars like Ford will not let you dress them to make them look their best and this is what you get.
"I'm selling these fine leather jackets."
I met Peter Botwright a couple of times at his shop. Always had time for a chat. Was a pleasure to talk to. Messed around by Berman’s and others but never bitter. Always made the jackets when asked even if they had to hide his involvement from Monty Berman to get the job done
Very interesting information...so Tony Nowak produced all the Leather jackets,sad thing all these gentlemen unfortunately passed away..Bernie,Peter and Tony.
Indy put his bag on top of his jacket after the last crusade tank battle to avoid a repeat of that fiasco I like to think.
Also, I think last crusade is the indys best look. The boxy jacket and tie looks great imo
Nah Indy in Ravens bars with the jacket done up is the coolest look
Glad I'm not the only one with the same feelings on Indy's classic look throughout the film series. When I first watched the "making of" Documentary in the first DVD box-set released in the decade of the 2000s, the costume designer for Raiders revealed the logic and care that went into Indy's clothes and how it was featured in the film, it gave the impression of an adventurous man who practically lived in his clothes and that his hat was very much beloved. In my eyes, Indiana Jones looked natural in Raiders of the Lost Ark, but in the subsequent films afterwards, he's wearing a costume.
And yes, the Raiders Hat IS the Best and True version of Classic Fedora.
It really is, no doubt. I like the photoshop of the Raiders hat on the Last Crusade outfit.
Ehh I do feel Temple Of Dooms outfit is also a solid natural look, especially towards the end
I can't unsee this. Everything degrades away from the source material. You are hilariously specific!
I've always dug his old man Indy look in Young Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues. At least its different enough to bring something new to the table in a sensible way. Excellent video by the way!
I thanked you for the breakdown of this outfit in the original review and I have to thank you for this re-edit again
Ah cool! Always love your passion and eye for detail, Michael.
This is gonna be a good one. I just feel it.!!!!! retro blasting you are my favorite CZcamsr, and I am so glad you are covering this topic.
Man, every time Retroblasting drops a video, it feels like a present.
Love your content. Long or short form but would enjoy seeing longer in depth reviews of films/series like the Indy 5 review.
Always a pleasure when Retroblasting drops a video. Love it!
You know I am not mad at this outfit, the one thing I am mad about is that Indy did not have the gun shot stitch on his left arm jacket for every single movie.!
He carried the bag on the outside of his jacket after crusade because after it got stuck on the tank he could not get if off because it was under his jacket. So basically it nearly killed him. Being over the jacket it would be a much greater chance to remove the thing if it got stuck on something. I know you mentioned that but its the reason.
That's a theory. No evidence mind you, but you have a notion. Doesn't explain any of the other issues.
@@timothyward8695 The other issues are just time. Yeah I liked his original brown shirt better to but look it's 1969. He add and removes things as the years go by. Indy probably hasn't had a adventure since 1957. He's also old. Clothes like the indy costume just don't look as cool on an old guy. They don't fit the same or even hang on the body the same. The side by sides show that his body has changed. His jawline is melding with his neck. It just happens. He's old.
Excellent re-edit of part of your Indy 5 review Michael! Also cool to see you in costume! :)
I happen to love the gags about his classic outfit in the other movies, and I even like that each film's look has it's own subtle differences (although the Raiders hat really is unbeatable). But your points about the lack of care in DoD's look are spot on. One thing you didn't touch on, but really bugs me: for some reason, they kind of switched the color hues of the shirt and pants. The shirt now goes towards a yellowish regular khaki tone, while the pants are almost grey... even the hat ribbon is the same tone as the hat felt, losing that contrast between a brown hat and an almost black ribbon. Anyway, great video, specially for those of us who pay attention to that kind of stuff.
Your attention to detail on Indy's costume is nothing short of meticulous!!! I too noticed gradual changes in Indy's outfit, but could never put my finger on it (I simply assumed through the first three films they were each different outfits.)
Thank you for giving this issue such clarity and focus on why costuming is SO important to a character...particularly one this iconic!! The slop factor on the costume for Indy 5 is inexcusable!!
Love your content, and your attention to detail.
It bears repeating. As for myself, in the early days, I never assumed that the outfit was supposed to look the same, given the wear and tear that had to be part of his life, but of course that was before they made the hat part of his origin. For one story, at least.
Fitting this in with a Indy video and playing tomb raider? This is so nice!
An excellent re-edit of footage taken from the superb Indiana Jones 5 review video, Michael.
I do hope this video re-edit whets the appetite of newcomers and encourages them to watch the full version of Michael's Indy 5 Mega review video.
I never watched Indy 5 even though I have Disney+, yet I did watch a 4 hour review about it 😂
@pendaco, May I ask, why didn't you watch Dial Of Destiny and, would you watch it?
@@Jaytee. Mainly because of all the poor reviews. Being let down by Crystal Skull years ago. And frankly after watching Michael's review I felt like I already watched it.
@@pendaco That's a shame that you've not seen the movie. I hope one day you decide to give it a chance. Personally, I really enjoyed it.
This video is brilliant. It brought to light some points I think I spotted on a subconscious level (like Indy’s bag, I knew there were issues but couldn’t put my finger on it). Great work
Just so you know I loved your Indy 5 review and I personally liked the movie! Your Indiana Jones videos are by far the best I’ve seen! You should do a video on the Indy comics video games and adult novels from the 90s!
Great video, and I loved the full length one as well.
I have to say, on a personal level, I don't mind the slight tweaks to his costume over the years, as long as they don't defy logic and common sense. (As some of them clearly do, like the placement of the satchel) Don't forget, he leads a hard life, so some shirts, jackets, and hats are going to be worn out over the years. I don't have any clothes that I owned ten years ago, let alone since 1981, and I'm not an adventurous explorer! I love the franchise and was very disappointed by the last instalment, but not because of Indy's outfit.
Incidentally, if you look at the still from Raiders at 4:32 and compare it with your Raiders outfit at the end, your whip and holster look distinctly more orange. Is Indy's just more weathered?
Thanks for another awesome upload Michael
Looking good in the Fedora
I love all the little changes to the outfit it's fun to point out what's different
Also if you may what are the hat's that you have in this video
I believe Disney try to cover up the lack of the gun by switching the placement of the shoulder bag to the right side, or sadder yet they just did not care. So sad, just an observation. Thanks for upload a edited version.
Not only did Disney dumb down his outfit by stripping him of his gun in DOD, they forced Hasbro to drop it as an accessory for the figures they released from this film as well. Instead we got flashlights and cameras as accessories. What has happened to this world we live in….🤦🏻♂️
One of your best videos.
For a man who used to wear a morral, I can agree on how it should be worn.
Great video,glad to see more Indi' content
Very interesting details you put out there.
Makes me ponder the question, what happened to the OG props from Raiders?
Museums, private collections and the Skywalker Ranch
All of which was done with Mr Ford's approval
I’ve watched the 4 hour review twice and this dude nailed everything to the wall and then whipped it well. What a great job of even putting something like that together. 💥💥💥👍
Thx for this video. Where can I find the mega review?
Link posted at the end of the video
Nice Raiders attire at the end. You could use some weathering tho lol
Excellent video, Michael.
Excellent once again. Thank you.
Harrison cosplaying as Indy is the only thing that made Dial of Destiny a “Indiana Jones” film.
It was pretty much just a generic adventure film that just happened to star Harrison Ford.
Once again amazing video!
I still wish for Dial of Destiny (besides trying to make a good movie) they had Indy’s look reflect his age - dress him more like his dad - a scholarly academic - and give him the eye patch from the Young Indy Chronicles.
But you know, that doesn’t work on a poster 🙄
Great video man
I just get such joy out of seeing Michael in his Indy or Bespin Han outfits. He really wears them well.
This video is spot on but I couldn’t stop looking at your display case. I’m now going make a similar one in my toy/comic book room inspired after yours
That's a really cool green variation of the shirt at the beginning of the video. I would not mind getting one of them.
Attention to detail is always important. The satchel strap under the jacket is something that those making the new Indiana Jones game also seem to have missed as well going by what was seen in the recent trailer for it. It is all the more bizarre when the game attempts to recreate that scene from behind him at the beginning of Raiders. How did they miss that the strap was under the jacket? As the game is set between Raiders and Last Crusade it makes no sense why Indy would wear the satchel strap over the jacket. Then again it never made any sense why he would ever wear it over the jacket in any of the later movies either. It is pretty sad that Harrison Ford himself never seemed to have pointed out this either when wearing the outfit in the later movies.
I always liked the look of the jacket in Raiders and Temple of Doom as it looked like it had been lived in for many years where as in Last Crusade and Kingdom it was a lot puffier and like something that had just been bought off the shelf and weathered a bit. It was not shaped to his body and that jacket should be like a second skin on him. It also looked slightly oversized on him in Raiders which it never did in any of the other movies.
I never felt it was oversized in Raiders. It was just a tight fit but not too tight. In the other ones it looked a little looser but look how many times costumes change in movies. Take for instance Friday the 13th. I know it's a low budget horror movie but the mask and look of Jason changed with each subsequent film. The same with Michael Myers mask. I liked The Dial Of Destiny but I never understood why they made the whip black just very odd. Great video by the way. Love the attention to detail.
Thanks for this, now I can confirm that my adventure series Indi is screen accurate
Another fantastic video. Smart and funny as usual.
Great Video Michael.
Loved your green Indy shirt in the intro! Where’d you get it?
Magnoli Clothiers
Love the passion. I love your work. Been subbed for awhile. But I gotta say. Suspend your disbelief.
We all know Harrison Ford doesn’t care about any of the characters he plays. After 3 movies he should know what he should be wearing and how, but he just shows up, reads his lines, collects a check and goes home. Actors that care about character and lore, like Sam Witwer and Henry Cavill speak up and then get called difficult or chauvinists.
Maybe we’re expected to assume that 20-ish years later Indy is a broke sloppy old man who’s favorite cloths are no longer available from Hugo Boss. But you’re right, there really is no excuse for the laziness that made an iconic character look so disheveled.
Wearing the Dial of Destiny look, you still pull it off better than Ford did, his cloths didn’t even look to be his size, everything looks oversized and baggy.
Retroblasting always makes the best Indy content!! Micheal is a pro
That’s why it’s sad to see the Indy Gear website lose its domain
Though Micheal is no longer a contributor
But your work was very informative none the less on that page
What a great video and it proves I'm not going mad. It was Last Crusade when I first thought his outfit looked ever so slightly differently. I didn't notice it in Temple because Indy really gets roughed up through that film and the hat & jacket aren't even worn for big parts,by the way I adore Temple. It was last Crusdae again which I adore,that I just felt something was off,Indy looked ever so slightly different and this video proves it. Both Crystal Skull and Destiny shows even more signs of the costume not being the same. I could never quite put my finger on why or what the reasons were but this explains it so well. Thank you for this.
I completely agree with you my thoughts on the shoulder bag I was wondering if he injured himself on the shoulder and that’s why they replace the bag on the other side but I completely agree with your video great job thank you
One thing that stands out is the pinch on the fedora got smaller and smaller in each film. I always thought he started wearing the shoulder strap over the jacket because of the tank scene in Last Crusade...well thats how I justified it. lol. And of course Disney takes away the gun. ugggh.
Remember a hat is for keeping the sun out of your eyes....yiu wear a fedora for adventure. Great video thank you.
Great video. Great attention to detail. Also, you can really pull off that fedora. I guess I never thought about Indy's outfit as a costume. I always thought of it as the wardrobe selection of a gruff, matter of fact adventurer. Pieces selected for practicality. Hat for shade, jacket for warmth, gun for protection, satchel for carrying artifacts, bull whip...got me there. But I see your point. Also, talking about costumes maybe Melissa and Conrad can put together a Dreamland episode contrasting American and British popular 80's costumes. Thanks for the video.
Sorry, I meant Melinda and Conrand
Thanks for being informative
Pretty good yours analysis. Let me asking you my friend. Where do l get the mostly complete and accurate Indy costume!?
There is no cheat code for this. You need to go do your research. There is no one stop Add to Cart shop for this. Your very question indicates you are not ready to go down this road.
@@retroblasting ok! Thanks anyway
Why did I watch this??? Damn I wasn’t this depressed since that dial of nonsense’s credits rolled… I agree with everything… pointed out some of these details myself to my wife… she looked at me weirdly 😂
Easily the best chapter of that whole mega review. It made me see the other Indy films in a different light and just how perfect his original look was
That video took me three months, has 12 chapters, and goes four 4 hours. Be careful next time how you phrase compliments.
I'm most surprised Diznee let Indy wear leather.
Did anyone else think that Indy started wearing his satchel strap outside his jacket post-Last Crusade because of how it nearly got him killed during the tank chase where he was dangling from the turret and couldn't slide out of it? Either way though, I'm absolutely not in favor of him wearing the satchel strap outside the jacket, it really does affect the look of the outfit overall. Unfortunately, the new upcoming Indy game continues this trend, ugh...
Yep. Smith and Wesson M1917. 45 ACP. My dad gave me his. Always called it his Indy gun.
That was a great review.
i did an indy cosplay for halloween and i did only one belt *time constraints* it wasn’t bad but wasn’t fun, the holster and whip weighed my belt/pants down weird
I pointed out the missing pistol many times myself. I had a hunch they would pull this, as I noticed they were trying to distance him from his pistol in Skull- but At least they acknowledged its existence there. If I had to guess, the lack of bullwhip use was a similar studio mandate for similar reasons… bullwhip connotations and all… Disney being afraid of some snarky comments on twitters and such.
I know you said no headcanon, but I just figured it was never supposed to be taken as one set of clothes throughout the entire span of the movies. Indy gets the crap beat out of him in his adventures and he probably goes through clothes constantly. We see how destroyed his clothes get in Temple of Doom and then they're brand new again in Raiders. And there's no hole in his jacket in Last Crusade from where he gets shot in the arm during the truck chase in Raiders. The guy probably goes through clothes all the time and maybe sometimes can't find the exact same stuff, especially if he's in different countries and all, so he just finds something close. Even the hat. Getting them wet all the time like does really kinda ruins hats like those so he probably went through a few of those too. Just the way always kinda thought of it. Good video though. I obsessively researched which jacket to get before I finally decided on the Todd's Costumes one because it looked the most like the Raiders jacket and it's my favorite one so I noticed the differences in the different movie costumes too lol.
When did I ever say I believed all of his clothes were the same ones movie too movie? Making your star in your film LOOK GOOD is my point. Methinks you're eating your own tail trying to parse my comments.
I didn’t mind the dial of destiny looked, but I still he could’ve had his revolver with him he didn’t even have the satchel in the opening scene.
one main things that perturbed me was the setting of Dial in the 60s. With Harrisons Age it should be been late 70s or early 80s. Imagine Indy in the disco era! Fighting neo Nazis on the disco floor.
Attention to detail! Love it!
Thank you, Sir ! 💪💪💪
As someone that has had an "Raiders" full outfit, you're totally on point.
Hey Michael, Is this breakout a reupload? I could've sworn I saw the thumbnail yesterday or earlier today?
No, this is a new video.
I knew it was new, but did you upload this short one before or totally new today? I could swear I saw the thumbnail earlier and meant to watch it. But my mind could be playing tricks, of course. LOVED the long form Indy 5 review!@@retroblasting
Attention to detail and care notwithstanding, would you say the reason why the leather jacket got bigger and the rest of his wardrobe fitting him differently is due to Harrison Ford's body changing as the years went on? While still looking like himself from 1981 to 1989, Ford does physically look a bit different in terms of age and body mass. He will look drastically different in 2008, more so in 2022-23.
Filmakers should be shown this video in film school to show how details are important.
I like the Raiders look best, too-but I feel like Indy having that exact shirt on 50 years later would raise more questions than it answers.
I really enjoy (most of) the variations. 🤷♂️
Jesus, dude. He's wearing the same jacket, hat, and pants and shoes too. You're not calling that out! Try again with your rationale.
ive waited for this
Great job breaking it down. I don’t find anything you said that I disagree with. I would make mention that the fedoras shrunk on the plane due to the heat in Sri Lanka. Great review!
12:08 The cringy-ness of this clip will never get old.
Another point is that the dial would have not fit inside the gas mask without altering the inside of the bag since it has a division inside and several pockets to store small things. Great analysis of the costume . Love your Fedora!
I’m pretty sure Moloram ripped it off Indy. That’s how he got it off. But it doesn’t really make a lot of sense to just that easily rip leather.
new to the indy cosplay planning to meet Karen Allen in may very Interesting Video subbed as well much love Dave
I think the hat problems stem from the fact that he was supposed to lose it in Raiders and thus it didn’t matter if he had the same one in Temple of Doom but by The Last Crusade the hat was synonymous with Indy so it was established as something he’d always had in that film, which led to this inconsistency.
As someone who dabbles in 3d modeling I've seen over the years what happens if a modeler gets a period costume wrong. Especially if its a military uniform. You're going to hear from people including veterans.
Its not enough to guess or assume, you've got to approximate.
I hate that tie. To my mind he only wore it around his father because, subconsciously, he was trying to win his father's approval and appear respectable. For him to wear it in subsequent films makes zero sense to me.
"You're a deicated man" Ford was originally meant to wear a fedora in Blade runner and since he was playing a Bogart type detective i'm sure he would'a had the same dip in the hat's peek. Perhaps identical.
Great video guys.
Very good analysis overall, and I'm aware you said ignore Headcanon, but I thought it was well established he wears the gas mask bag outside his jacket POST Crusade because of the Tank fiasco? I feel that's the only excusable thing
_Well_ established? Where? By whom? A _widely accepted_ fan theory?
@@timothyward8695I suppose so but it makes logical sense. Although it isn't spelled out to the viewers the design is clear enough to show he learned from that, although Indy films are supposed to be serials, it does show some development of character which lasts longer than a film
@@timothyward8695I believe Spielberg stated he put it on the outside of the jacket because of what happened in crusade. Indy isn't dumb and like the snakes was fearful it would happen again so he fixed it. Case closed.
@@danceswithcomicbooks7733 You believe that someone said, so the case is closed? Is that how it works?
@@timothyward8695 he did say it. So yeah case closed.
If anything, this short section video made me want to go find the mega long video that it is apart of. Im not afraid of long form videos if done right.
Link at the end of the video.........
Indy's Mk 7 gas mask bag was first released in 1941 but Indy had one in 1936.
Love this kind of attention to detail its what separates real geeks from the common fan
I agree dial of destiny is his worst look but I don’t think his gear gets worse as the series goes on. I think his outfit from Last Crusade is the best it was in all 5 movies. I don’t know why but I really like the tan web belt and visible snaps for the storm flap on his jacket. Then, if you’re into cosplay, you can put the tie on. I also like his hat (not the short brimmed one used in some scenes) with the more standard crown but it’s pretty similar to the one in temple and crystal skull. Destiny looks like it’s made out of a darker felt.
I think the gap between “Raiders” and the “Indiana Jones” movies is best represented with his costume. The unique hat, bag strap leather color and buckle, the color of his holster and bullwhip, gloves and smith and Wesson all scream Raiders. Then the following 3 have larger darker holsters and different satchel straps and buckles. Along with the less unique crown and standard brim on his hat.
I'd always been aware that there were differences in the Indy costume over the course of the various films. They just seemed to get more... sloppy looking. But the actual "Why?" was lost on me. This was a master class on why. Thank you for this.
I’m just curious are you saying Indy’s look in temple of Doom and last crusade is bad? Because he looked like an absolute chad in temple with the one sleeved look in my opinion. In last crusade I like the tie he wore for his father I thought it was nice touch. I think he looked good in temple and crusade, just not as refined as raiders. Does that mean it’s bad?
Watch the full length video linked at the end. That gives his opinion on each installment of the series.
I said it was sloppy. I said it looks worse than Raiders. I don't care what you personally like or are willing to tolerate. And the one sleeve has NOTHING to do with the complete outfit. You're referring to the outfit DAMAGED at the end. I'm referring to the ACTUAL PIECES used throughout the film. You're not even in the correct conversation.
I love your videos
I watched the whole video and didn’t mind because it was and is very interesting for me.
Your Indy V vid was a pièce d'excellence
Surprised you didn’t mention how short the bag strap was in Crystal Skull
He did... czcams.com/video/kfhHEzcepEo/video.htmlsi=jkQWMAEdzNrziz2U&t=510
Nailed it. The Raiders costume is perfect. The subsequent films are an ever degrading facsimile of the original.
I always preferred the colour of the last crusade pants is my only concession, but not enough to change the Raiders costume
Cool video.
I've noticed this myself with each movie. I couldn't quite explain it,but by the time you get to Crystal skull,the outfit just didn't...fit. I really liked his look in both Raiders and Temple of Doom.
Spot on. Raiders got the outfit right to perfection. For me, TOD kind of got away with its differences probably because of how ripped up it all ends up looking anyway. But Last Crusade was the first one that really jarred me, particularly the addition of a tie to his adventure gear. To quote Arnie in Predator, "what's this fucking tie business?"