His early game damage has always been good. His ult cc immunity is very useful too. I still think he is a very good mage. And he can also use 1 or defensive items depending on the game.
ive been solo pushing rank with valir and hes still pretty solid, being one of the few mages that can defend themselves properly and he can even get defense items, being ice queen wand and glowing wand his core items(u can also give concentrated energy if u want for that extra health and lifesteal)
His popularity isn't decreasing because of the NERF of ice queen wand it's because of the reworked rafa which completely make any slow dependent heros useless
valir is pretty solid against fighter/tank type of core with no cc immune like martis (alpha, balmond) + set-type tank (khufra, atlas), everyone on the front line will just get pushed back and slowly bbq'ed to death, tank items can also be used on valir if there are burst heroes along with the lineup
The 12th Day hoping that you keep taking care of yourself and having fun during all your matched Betosky! Also Thanks for all your vids and hopefully you can go back to showing all 3 builds so we can use it as a reference for different situations.
Hey beto,you should highlight more about this 0:19. About how last pick oftenly a absolute counter,how last pick was a guarenteed win. Enemies were no ideas you about to counter their compositions
He's the hero that i ban every time. Nerf or not still annoying AF. Regular ban on my server are mostly Xborg,Alpha,Martis,valir(obviously),Yin and Nolan for some reason. If you have any questions for some of these bans..... you're welcome to ask my random teammates
The main bans for mine are always Xborg, Martis, Mathilda, Angela, Estes pretty often, Nolan unless my team has 1st pick and the enemy doesn't ban, Wanwan, sometimes alpha
Valir is a great pick for solo queue because assassins aren't as effective as tanks/fighters in jungler role, and you rarely see an opponent picking Rafaela who is perform well against Valir.
Hey Beto, would you mind doing a lil tier list? But....not a full one. Sorta. I wanna see picks n counters tier list vs one hitters, and tanky comps. Maybe healers too. If I'm playing ranked solo, I prefer to let others pick first, but there are still a lot of heroes idk yet.
In high rank getting close enough to perform a basic attack just for an extra slow will place you in unnecessary risk. Besides, you could just get either a fully defensive item or damage item instead of thunderbelt. Item slots and build order are extremely valuable
Even before his buff, I would use him in the rank (that time Valir wasn't ban yet) then after his buff, he got ban in draft pick making it difficult for me to use.
Valir is one of the strongest hero at lv 1, I get 1st blood w/ him a lot, and strong against comps with a lot of frontline heroes. And you can build utility or defensive items after his core items
Valir is a good counter for bulky heroes like fighter hyper, tank n exp later, but super hard when it comes to assassin or dashing hyper like yss, first skill gonna land perfectly or else it’s gone
I agree that he’s great against a tanky compo but even though I’m a valir main, I enjoy supports more in the current meta. I’m also planning to change my play style of him
I think you should try another game, since the lineup is too favorable for Valir in this vid. You were able to keep spamming in backline uncontested, this won't happen in 90% of matches. If you encounter any backline assassins, burst heroes(as you mentioned), or rafaela you'll understand why no one is picking valir anymore. And you can't really choose last as Valir to make sure you get the best lineup everytime since there are way higher priority heroes than him.
I totally agreed, most of the time an annoying hero (moving or cc based) is there waiting to eat valir in the bush (with 1btn=1kill hero) cause he is really slow to deal dmg, and if u miss 2 fireball u end up being useless.
Valir is only slightly nerfed by the ice queen wand. He can still stack the slow easily. What i hate is the item now nerf on mages without burn effects like cyclops cuz the 1st and 2nd skill damage so fast so can only trigger 1 stack of slow due to the cooldown while valir can still stack slow easily. Wish they change the cooldown so that the slow does not trigger on valir's passive burn effect
Yes it's doesn't affect him too much he is a good hero against tanky and Melee heroes and even mm suffer a lot if he build tanky then everyone begs for mercy
As an Odette main, I really don't have any problems with Valir as an opponent even in mythic and up lobbies, but there are definitely those who knows how to play him well and I just get EATEN, especially those who are well protected by their roam 😭
You know, you should've tanked a bit for Brody at bot lane when Brody was about to die and you were at full HP at the moment. 7:14 Thank god Brody didn't die though.
Meet Valir, who unironically uses Ice and Fire items for his builds despite being more Fire and Arcane (which is Enchanted Talisman or Concentrated Energy)
I think the nerf on icequeen wand was mor of a nerf for beginner Valir players, because then it’s easier to hit multiple times, but the true quality of valir is his zoning potential by having constant pressure on the enemies. Anyway I think you should definitely try Benedetta at some point. Right now she‘s an absolute monster because of her mobility, high damage and high spellvamp if built correctly. She even has enough burst damage to seriously contest her ultimate counterpart uranus (apart from minsi). And her kit even allows her to build full damage because of her immunities. It‘s not easy to master her but once you get the hang of her skills she can kill the enemies Backline before they can react. Corrosion synthe is obviously her core item but I love playing around with endless battle, because it provides some Regen and additional true damage so you can kill anybody who fights you. I think she does best on exp lane but jungle is also fine now because her first skill got several buffs. Fun fact: endless battle triggers on every charged autoattack meaning you can even kill tanks decently if you do a hit and run strat
The nerf on ice queen wand does have nothing to do with Valir's decline in popularity since the 1 sec cd can be covered by his passive flame on enemy. It's rafaela's slow immunity which can render slow amplifying heroes useless. Eg; Valir, Lylia, Yve.
I still use him after these current fighter meta, seeing Barats, Freya, Fredrinn, Harith dominates the Jungle, I started to use valir against them and pretty much we win if I have correct spacing and distance, I'm currently at 95matches with 70% wr this season
@@janinebelleestrada7096 Hey! I didn't mention but whenever valir is taken I would go joy. Ofc its a death trap if enemy picks valir after joy pick haha.
I just finished a Valir rank game and when I actually picked Valir our jungler really said "valir will carry" and he wasn't kidding at all 😂😂 same as beto here tho, I was lucky I had a good tank following me around 👏🏻
Playing against valir is like a "try not to get annoyed" challenge, especially if ur using melee heroes
agree, i always try to counter valir by using cheap caitlyn knockoff.
@@antekliyue9874Lesley?
@@antekliyue9874whos that
joy:guess im ranged now
@@antekliyue9874 u mean Lesley?
His early game damage has always been good.
His ult cc immunity is very useful too.
I still think he is a very good mage.
And he can also use 1 or defensive items depending on the game.
*1 or more
@@kimwonyoung_ ty
Pls, it's purify, *purify* , not cc immunity
@@MLBB_Eboadewhatever man doesn't really matter what you call it ,I think we all get the idea
@@lampuhage4557new players wouldn't
ive been solo pushing rank with valir and hes still pretty solid, being one of the few mages that can defend themselves properly and he can even get defense items, being ice queen wand and glowing wand his core items(u can also give concentrated energy if u want for that extra health and lifesteal)
His popularity isn't decreasing because of the NERF of ice queen wand it's because of the reworked rafa which completely make any slow dependent heros useless
that's why u ban her when ur going for valir
@@strwberrin.which is pretty obvious.
She can’t give stun immunity
@@ludwigwittgenstein1280but she gives slow immunity which is a counter to Hero like Yve and valir
@@kuqeu9507 duh, otherwise she'll just be useless again
LOL i was that lylia.. i was about throw my phone when i kept getting killed and i couldn't even get close😂
When you have a tank and tank hyper in your team valir shines alot 🎉❤
Valir + Gloo combo is actually a nasty duo if the player knows how to use those heroes
I've been playing valir non stop for about 2 weeks now. The kills with the burning along with flameshot is soooo satisfying 😌
Also, why don't you showcase your thoughts on all the legend skins
valir is pretty solid against fighter/tank type of core with no cc immune like martis (alpha, balmond) + set-type tank (khufra, atlas), everyone on the front line will just get pushed back and slowly bbq'ed to death, tank items can also be used on valir if there are burst heroes along with the lineup
So nice when you actually get a decent team and all your skills just showcase together
0:22 nice wr🌚
Wow, first vidéo in 3years that m supporting You, where team mates plays like normal hahahah, gl Betooosky we love you❤
The 12th Day hoping that you keep taking care of yourself and having fun during all your matched Betosky! Also Thanks for all your vids and hopefully you can go back to showing all 3 builds so we can use it as a reference for different situations.
That gloo following you aroud was looking so cute 😍😍😆
Literally any hero beto plays becomes very good-
Except Fanny and Chou
Hey beto,you should highlight more about this 0:19. About how last pick oftenly a absolute counter,how last pick was a guarenteed win. Enemies were no ideas you about to counter their compositions
He's the hero that i ban every time. Nerf or not still annoying AF. Regular ban on my server are mostly Xborg,Alpha,Martis,valir(obviously),Yin and Nolan for some reason. If you have any questions for some of these bans..... you're welcome to ask my random teammates
what server are u? Not banning novaria floryn Mathilda Angela and khufra? Lol
The main bans for mine are always Xborg, Martis, Mathilda, Angela, Estes pretty often, Nolan unless my team has 1st pick and the enemy doesn't ban, Wanwan, sometimes alpha
@@silvoremine is same as u, i always get support bans lol mainly floryn angela rafaela etc
Valirs also really easy to counter. I always dominate valir using Kadita
What do you mean Nolan for some reason? He is the most broken hero right now. And I've never seen those bans. What kind of rank and server is that?
U r one of the best mage user in the world ..dont kept yr guard down bro❤️👍👍👍
Valir is a great pick for solo queue because assassins aren't as effective as tanks/fighters in jungler role, and you rarely see an opponent picking Rafaela who is perform well against Valir.
Beto when he's in trouble:
"no man should be left behind, but Gloo is no man"
Hey Beto, would you mind doing a lil tier list? But....not a full one. Sorta. I wanna see picks n counters tier list vs one hitters, and tanky comps. Maybe healers too.
If I'm playing ranked solo, I prefer to let others pick first, but there are still a lot of heroes idk yet.
Look for a better player than beto , he is just another rank player like you and I
i lit just saw this on my yt feed after a min it's been uploaded
IQW plus thunder belt is a menace of valir. It's literally no moving at all.💀
I agree, those two is a must build for my Valir
But he needs to do a basic atk to proc the thunder belt slow
Replace it with dominance ice
In high rank getting close enough to perform a basic attack just for an extra slow will place you in unnecessary risk. Besides, you could just get either a fully defensive item or damage item instead of thunderbelt. Item slots and build order are extremely valuable
Very good boi
First 😂❤
One of the best mage valir ..of play properly its still good bro...nice skin by the way 👍👍
Even before his buff, I would use him in the rank (that time Valir wasn't ban yet) then after his buff, he got ban in draft pick making it difficult for me to use.
2:48 😂😂😅😊
Could you try out Minsitthar? It's been 6 months since your last video about him.
"very good boi"
oh daddy-😩...
but out of topic,that gloo is really really good and know how to roaming around...
Video 6 of asking beto to play ling
Wow total domination. Won without loosing a single turret and perfect kda!! 🔥🔥🙌🏻🙌🏻
Frst bro 😃
1:24 epic moment when ur ganking and the team is busy farming.
First to view yey
Props to all roamers! Never give Up and keep going :)
I missed Betosky when he did those advance server shenanigans and used not pooular heroes, but oh well
Best ever played when your roamer is as good as what we saw, totally glued opponents on their feet with gloo and valir's slow. Perfect Combo
Valir is one of the strongest hero at lv 1, I get 1st blood w/ him a lot, and strong against comps with a lot of frontline heroes. And you can build utility or defensive items after his core items
How betosky explain this is one thing I love About hime ❤
Thats an amazing team i wish those guys good luck in their games
Valir is a good counter for bulky heroes like fighter hyper, tank n exp later, but super hard when it comes to assassin or dashing hyper like yss, first skill gonna land perfectly or else it’s gone
GGWP 💪🏻
Lol i never thought ill be in betosky's video 😆😆(im that Gloo)
My very first hero which i played from the start
Hi Could you please make a video on how to use zhask expertly?
I love these two saint saiya valir skins soo much...wish i could get them
A good teammate advanced and valir always a good mage, I would like to build few differences item
Pro Gloo 👍
I agree that he’s great against a tanky compo but even though I’m a valir main, I enjoy supports more in the current meta.
I’m also planning to change my play style of him
Day 92 of asking Betosky to play Roger in next video.
Wth 92
Day 10,000 of asking yasira to stop doing this
Your dream is gonna come true bro, Roger is getting a buff
@@Mohd-Chad its not Yasira, its Yasir, and even its hard to call my name then plz Just Call me Paul 🤣
@@weiyang7485 Hope so🥲
Please make video on lunox before she gets her revamp 😊
hi there bestosky
From what anime is that background music you are using?
I always use him as a roamer way before the buff and I can tell u that he is still a good choice for a solo queue rank 😊
The enemy were used all mele hero.. it will be difficult for valir if the enemy used hero that can jumped to backline..such as yz, ling and etc..
1st viewer xD
“o-pness” 💀
But in India server Valir is respected and even banned😊
gloo with this skin following u is so cute
Betosky can you play wanwan again just asking 😊
Hi😊
this is the earliest I've been wow
Betosky when u gonna play bruno again it’s been long time 😎🙏🏾
even all the heroes are nerf..it doesn't affect you beto...the one who should be neft is you though...always love your vids..senpai.
Day 2 of asking betosky to play fannyy
I think you should try another game, since the lineup is too favorable for Valir in this vid. You were able to keep spamming in backline uncontested, this won't happen in 90% of matches.
If you encounter any backline assassins, burst heroes(as you mentioned), or rafaela you'll understand why no one is picking valir anymore. And you can't really choose last as Valir to make sure you get the best lineup everytime since there are way higher priority heroes than him.
I totally agreed, most of the time an annoying hero (moving or cc based) is there waiting to eat valir in the bush (with 1btn=1kill hero) cause he is really slow to deal dmg, and if u miss 2 fireball u end up being useless.
Am I the only one who was watching gloo gameplay.... OP AF😮
Thanks betosky for highlighting my comment🥰
I getting better at mlbb by watching he vid🎉😊
Betoskyyyy~
what a perfect roamer 😍
POV: You picked Edith
😁
*enemy picked Valir*
You: 💀🔥🔥
Valir is only slightly nerfed by the ice queen wand. He can still stack the slow easily. What i hate is the item now nerf on mages without burn effects like cyclops cuz the 1st and 2nd skill damage so fast so can only trigger 1 stack of slow due to the cooldown while valir can still stack slow easily. Wish they change the cooldown so that the slow does not trigger on valir's passive burn effect
Moont𝗮rd can't balance for shit
Yes it's doesn't affect him too much he is a good hero against tanky and Melee heroes and even mm suffer a lot if he build tanky then everyone begs for mercy
Finally 😢😢😢
I love to play valir with dominance ice
As an Odette main, I really don't have any problems with Valir as an opponent even in mythic and up lobbies, but there are definitely those who knows how to play him well and I just get EATEN, especially those who are well protected by their roam 😭
❤😊
You know, you should've tanked a bit for Brody at bot lane when Brody was about to die and you were at full HP at the moment. 7:14 Thank god Brody didn't die though.
Bro I just got a maniac using valir , just by using proper positioning and always looking at the map
Meet Valir, who unironically uses Ice and Fire items for his builds despite being more Fire and Arcane (which is Enchanted Talisman or Concentrated Energy)
I think the nerf on icequeen wand was mor of a nerf for beginner Valir players, because then it’s easier to hit multiple times, but the true quality of valir is his zoning potential by having constant pressure on the enemies.
Anyway I think you should definitely try Benedetta at some point. Right now she‘s an absolute monster because of her mobility, high damage and high spellvamp if built correctly. She even has enough burst damage to seriously contest her ultimate counterpart uranus (apart from minsi). And her kit even allows her to build full damage because of her immunities. It‘s not easy to master her but once you get the hang of her skills she can kill the enemies Backline before they can react. Corrosion synthe is obviously her core item but I love playing around with endless battle, because it provides some Regen and additional true damage so you can kill anybody who fights you. I think she does best on exp lane but jungle is also fine now because her first skill got several buffs. Fun fact: endless battle triggers on every charged autoattack meaning you can even kill tanks decently if you do a hit and run strat
Oh and of course petrify is probably the unmached best spell on exp for her
The nerf on ice queen wand does have nothing to do with Valir's decline in popularity since the 1 sec cd can be covered by his passive flame on enemy. It's rafaela's slow immunity which can render slow amplifying heroes useless. Eg; Valir, Lylia, Yve.
I still use him after these current fighter meta, seeing Barats, Freya, Fredrinn, Harith dominates the Jungle, I started to use valir against them and pretty much we win if I have correct spacing and distance, I'm currently at 95matches with 70% wr this season
i love it
As a joy main Valir is basically a food for me lol.
Who uses a valir against a joy anyway. It's usually harith against a joy I see most of the time or esme in mid for dare devils
@@janinebelleestrada7096 Hey! I didn't mention but whenever valir is taken I would go joy. Ofc its a death trap if enemy picks valir after joy pick haha.
lol so thats why i felt that he didnt do that much slow or damage lol i didnt know he was nerfed i played too aggressive
try it with a rafaela comp
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Whats the bgm used at around 7:40?
PROBA BALMOD BESTOSKY...QUIERO VER COMO JUGAS CON MI MAIN 😉
Im agree ..
Video 88 of requesting betosky to play moskov.
I don't see you commenting day 1 to 87 on betosky's videos, try harder lol
Day 1: please betosky use Dyrroth 🙏
My favorite hero in Brawl 😂
They already add the boots thats gives 35% slow reduction +65 moveaped
But you have to then sacrifice armor boots or magic boots
I just finished a Valir rank game and when I actually picked Valir our jungler really said "valir will carry" and he wasn't kidding at all 😂😂 same as beto here tho, I was lucky I had a good tank following me around 👏🏻
A good tank is harder to deal with
Satisfying to watch after watching this I try gambling with mages and get annoyed when they don't gank lol
Day 2 of requesting moskov gameplay
if u use the basic emblem, u won't need to build mana boots and go for defensive boots instead
In india ( mythical glory) he is still one of the most ban mage with novaria